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kan
5:00 PM
Well, @Paulo, I should ask you: I have put into my .tex file, the directives: %arara: pdflatex... I put in arara foo.tex but I get the help page...
 
@kan How are you calling arara? From the terminal?
 
kan
@PauloCereda Yes... I thought I am allowed to do that?
 
@kan Yes, you are. :) arara foo.tex gives you the help screen?
Hm you need at least one space from % and arara: pdflatex.
 
kan
@PauloCereda Yes. The ASCII logo and the synopsis and a couple of flags.
 
% arara: pdflatex
Note the space. Could you try it again?
 
kan
5:02 PM
@PauloCereda Ooh! O.O
 
The new version (RC4) has a message when no directives were found. :)
But it's still in my safe. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda You could also warn the user about the space in your manual, please.
 
@kan Sure, I added a note to my TODO list.
Did it work?
 
kan
@PauloCereda Not yet... I am sure I have the spaces right, now, but...
 
@Gigili You should really give listings package a try.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath,listings}
\begin{document}
\begin{lstlisting}[mathescape=true]
[A]  IF  HALT($x,x$) GOTO  A
$\Downarrow$ (counter(x))
[A]  IF HALT(counter(x),counter(x)) GOTO A
\end{lstlisting}
\end{document}
Here it's Pascal by default but you can choose among many other languages for keywords emphasis etc. or make up your own
 
5:08 PM
@PauloCereda You found the French expert! Jean-Côme is a very good TeXnician
 
kan
Hmm... I am not sure what is the mistake I am making anymore...
 
@egreg Oh my! :) I'll send him an email. :) After I posting the message in c.t.t, I had arara forked and a first attempt of a French translation was already made. :)
 
@percusse Neat, thanks. But I got "permission denied"! I'm going to write down my solutions which would take me 1/4 of the time that this TeXing takes!
 
kan
@Gigili Are you on windows or Linux?
 
@Gigili Probably your pdf is open in AcroRead :)
 
5:12 PM
@kan Let's find out. which arara
 
I am not sure whether it's worth it any more.
 
@egreg: do you know Jean? :)
 
@kan Win 7.
 
@PauloCereda No, but I read many of its posts on ctt
 
kan
@PauloCereda opt/arara/arara...
 
5:14 PM
@kan Great! :) Now ls -la /opt/arara
 
@percusse What $#@$#&@$ is that again? Is the problem easily solvable?
 
kan
@Gigili Everybody begins somewhere... "TeX is not for everyone but it might be for you"
 
@egreg Ah cool! :)
 
kan
@Gigili Just check if you have closed your pdf file before compiling from the editor...
total 2516
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root    4096 Nov 10 21:53 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root    4096 Nov 10 21:55 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     309 Jul 20 22:43 arara
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2559309 Sep 24 13:27 arara.jar
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    4096 Sep 24 10:39 rules
 
@Gigili I've just guessed. Was that the the issue?
 
5:15 PM
@PauloCereda He's also a member here
 
@kan Umm, right... But I don't have much time to spend on it.
 
@egreg Cool! :)
@kan Hm could you create a dummy file?
% arara: pdflatex
\documentclass{article}

\begin{document}
Meow.
\end{document}
 
kan
@PauloCereda .tex file for testing? Oh!
 
run with arara mydoc.tex
@kan Yes. Any folder will do, preferably in your home. :)
 
@percusse Uh oh, the problem was caused by the function I defined!
 
kan
5:19 PM
Running pdf latex success! :-)
@Paulo ^
 
@kan So, apparently, everything works. :)
Now, could you post everything that is in your .tex file, before \documentclass? :)
 
kan
%    arara: pdflatex
%    arara: pdflatex
%    arara: bibtex
%    arara: pdflatex
%    arara: pdflatex
 
It should work. By the way, are those spaces tabs?
I can't remember if the default regex covers tabs.
 
kan
@PauloCereda No, they are spaces but there are four of them...
 
@kan Can you test something? Run arara doc.tex --log and post the arara.log here, please.
 
5:25 PM
@kan How do I wirte the following function's LaTeX code? Was it \begin{cases}, \end{cases}?
 
kan
@Gigili Yes.
\begin{cases}
0, &\text{} \\
1, &\text{} \\
\end{cases}
 
\Psi=\begin{cases}
undefined, &\text{HALT(counter(x),counter(x))}\\
1, &\text{\negate{HALT(counter(x),counter(x))}}\\
\end{cases}
Right?
Is it \negation? \neg? \negate?
Google says \overline but I don't like that version.
 
kan
@PauloCereda Hey, I think arara is not even considering my main foo.tex but it does compile my mydoc.tex which was that test file....
 
@kan :)
Post the log. :)
 
kan
@Gigili you may use $\sim$ outside \text...
 
5:30 PM
Thanks.
 
kan
\Psi=\begin{cases}
undefined, &\text{HALT(counter($x$),counter($x$))}\\
1, &\sim \text{HALT(counter($x$),counter($x$))}
\end{cases}
@PauloCereda Here we go: pastebin.com/U1zF8LWJ
 
@kan Great! arara is working perfectly. Could you run arara with your "problematic" file and also give me the log? :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda No log file is ever produced... :(
 
@kan Oh thank you. That works perfectly.
 
@kan I'm sorry, I don't understand. There's no way arara can miss that.
Could you provide a printscreen of your call?
 
kan
5:33 PM
Sure thing... just a sec...
 
@kan OK. Golden rule of command line tools: When your file has spaces, enclose it in double quotes. :)
go with
arara "Matrices and friends.tex"
Not just for arara, but for every CLI tool. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda Oh, OK.
No .log file is written in ~, which is where the file is...
 
@PauloCereda Look at your email I bet you don't have that song.... :)
 
@kan Spaces in the file name? That's looking for trouble. :)
 
kan
@egreg Indeed...
Now, I used Verbose mode compilation replacing every space with an underscore and it seems to work now.
Let me see if I can reproduce this situation, just a second...
@Paulo OK. I think I can reproduce this situation.
I created a file with spaces and calling arara on that file after escaping the spaces or using " don't seem to work.
 
5:46 PM
Who has been using (La)TeX since senior high school days?
 
@PauloCereda <3
 
kan
Also, if the file has caps ballsed up, arara is being deceived to believe that the file exists...
 
@kan I can't reproduce it here, sorry. For me, it works.
 
@PauloCereda I bought a SATA => USB converter so I'm discovering some old stuff again :)
 
kan
That is: arara does not give an error message saying the file does not exist.
 
5:48 PM
@kan Ah, but we are in Unix now. This is the default behaviour. Test.tex <> test.tex <> TEST.tex
@percusse woohoo! :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda Oh, I did not know.... sorry about that bit...
 
@kan Don't worry. :) This is actually very tricky. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda Oh! Noooooo! It does not work for me!
 
@kan Calm down. :) We will fix it. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda :P
 
5:51 PM
First, rename the sample file we created. Use something my cool vacation.tex.
then try arara "my cool vacation.tex" --log
 
kan
@PauloCereda I did that, with my doc.tex...
 
@kan And...
 
@kan Everybody begins somewhere... "Arara/Linux is not for everyone but it might be for you"
 
kan
@Gigili and, there you begin...
 
winks
 
kan
5:54 PM
 
@kan Ah ok. I think I know the culprit.
@kan: please
sudo gedit /opt/arara/arara
 
kan
@PauloCereda Hm. Another suggestion, to write a log file whenever arara is called... somewhere in the system.
 
@kan There's no need. The updated code has messages for this. :)
The last line of the file has this:
java -jar "$DIR/arara.jar" $*
Correct?
 
kan
@PauloCereda Yes... :)
 
@kan Then replace this line by this one:
java -jar "$DIR/arara.jar" $@
Save, close.
Then try to call arara again.
Close the terminal session, just to be sure.
And try again, please.
 
kan
6:01 PM
 
OK, plan B. Wait for me to finish an email, and I'll fix it.
 
kan
@PauloCereda Sure thing! Just to be sure, I have done what's to be done, I have just "cat" the code of arara script on to the terminal
 
@kan Can you try just one more thing?
Open the very same you've just edited.
 
kan
@PauloCereda sure...
 
Replace the last line
java -jar "$DIR/arara.jar" $@
by
java -jar "$DIR/arara.jar" "$@"
and try again please.
 
kan
6:05 PM
Sure... let me try...
@Paulo Great! Done! It works!!
 
@kan WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
kan
Let me see the log for why it failed though...
 
@kan Geez, don't spoil the moment. :P
 
kan
I mean PdfLaTeX resulted in FAILURE.
which arara has no handle over... if I understand how arara is supposed to work. The error is basically file not found...
 
@kan hm?
Post your log, please.
 
kan
6:10 PM
I mean, arara runs and produces a log, and the message in the log is PDFLaTeX cannot find the file.
10 Nov 2012 23:39:14.208 INFO  Arara - Welcome to arara!
10 Nov 2012 23:39:14.212 INFO  Arara - Processing file 'my  doc.tex', please wait.
10 Nov 2012 23:39:14.213 INFO  DirectiveExtractor - Reading directives from my  doc.tex.
10 Nov 2012 23:39:14.214 TRACE DirectiveExtractor - Directive found in line 1 with pdflatex.
10 Nov 2012 23:39:14.217 INFO  DirectiveParser - Parsing directives.
10 Nov 2012 23:39:14.219 INFO  TaskDeployer - Deploying tasks into commands.
10 Nov 2012 23:39:14.219 TRACE TaskDeployer - Task 'pdflatex' found in '/opt/arara/rules'.
 
@kan The rule has clearly an issue. What happens when you run pdflatex "my doc.tex" ?
 
kan
@PauloCereda Exactly, I think the argument you should pass to the rule is only whatever that is within the quotes and not everything along with the quotes...
 
@kan What happens when you run the command?
 
kan
@PauloCereda "I cannot find file... "
 
from PDFLaTeX?
 
kan
6:14 PM
Yes...
 
pdflatex "my doc.tex"
doesn't work?
 
kan
@PauloCereda Yeah... it does not work. It says, I can't find file "my doc.tex" and prompts another file name...
 
@kan How would you call PDFLaTeX for this file? I'm curious about it, since my filenames never have spaces. :)
 
kan
This is with the two space ish name.
With the 1 space ish name PDFLaTeX works.
 
Yep.
arara works too?!
 
6:18 PM
 
kan
Let me try that on arara.
 
@percusse OMG is it your drumset?!
 
@percusse DTXpress III
 
@PauloCereda My old one. Sold it 4 years ago.
from my old HDD
 
@percusse Sexy. :)
 
kan
6:19 PM
@PauloCereda Yes, with the 1 spacish one... arara works too...
 
@GarbageCollector Spot on
 
@percusse I have one too :-)
 
@GarbageCollector Is it still working?
 
@percusse Has been sold long time ago because no time to play :D
 
@kan I'm glad it worked. :) And about the other filename, I'm really sorry, if PDFLaTeX complains about it too, I cannot do much as well, since arara actually parses the file. What goes after it, it's not arara's fault.
 
kan
6:21 PM
@PauloCereda That's what I too told you sometime before... :)
 
@kan I know, but it could be a bad call from arara. :)
 
@GarbageCollector If I had a less sensitive neighbor I would rebuy one to be honest.
 
kan
12 mins ago, by kan
which arara has no handle over... if I understand how arara is supposed to work. The error is basically file not found...
 
After all, it's arara that "writes" the command and calls it. :)
 
@percusse Use a head set and a thick carpet
 
6:21 PM
I know, but the bird is the one who calls it. :)
 
@GarbageCollector No carpet is enough I've tried everything. The walls are too thin and kick pedal is making too much noise
 
kan
@PauloCereda Now, let's sit back and listen to this:
 
@percusse No carpet makes the pedal slip. There are some needles that must be hooked to the carpet.
 
@GarbageCollector Check the photo they are actually my gig pedals and have sharp teeth that goes in the carpet. So slip is no issue.
I need a vibration isolation table
or a carpet that damps out the sound.
 
@percusse I see. The kick pedal really makes noise.
 
6:26 PM
@kan Hey, this duck is not cool, he's annoying. :P
 
Lets take a break more :D
 
kan
@PauloCereda True... I'll find a good duck for you... :)
 
@percusse: DTXpress III was made in Indonesia. :-)
 
@GarbageCollector I didn't know that.
I want a VDrum and a DDrum
 
@percusse It is mentioned on the box. But only the red unit was made in Japan.
 
6:36 PM
Thank you for your help everyone, see you.
 
@percusse Currently I prefer the more portable musical instruments such as guitars or violins.
 
kan
6:51 PM
Hey @Paulo, What is your file naming convention? CamelCase or pot_holes?
 
@kan For TeX files? ohnomyspaceandcapslockkeysbrokebutiwontbuyanotherkeyboard.tex :)
 
@kan RaNDomcAse is the best. :)
 
At least for TeX. :) No space neither capitalized letters. :)
@egreg Also known as rollercoaster-case. :)
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@PauloCereda considering the speed of Paulo's response, he couldn't have written that by hand, which means that such a file must exist in his PC ;)
 
kan
@egreg But, how do you search for your file then?
@PauloCereda Oh, my!
 
6:53 PM
@tohecz Oh no, I've been spotted! :P
 
@kan grep -i :)
 
@egreg I was gonna say that! :)
 
@PauloCereda TSBI - TeX.SE Bureau of Investigation ;)
3
 
@PauloCereda Why running one process when you can run two?
 
kan
Damn it. I should learn regexp to be able to manipulate these things well enough.
 
6:55 PM
@tohecz LOL
@egreg Indeed. :)
 
@kan texdoc l3regex
 
Does anyone have a moment to answer the last comment (by me) on the answer by Gonzalo?
2
A: Display issues drawing DNA sequences with TikZ

Gonzalo Medina1) and 3) Change none to white when filling the parts of the rectangles. 2) Change the stile for the line to have arrow tip only on one end (I wasn't sure which ones to you wanted to change, so I chose the two on the bottom). 4) One possibility is to draw the arrows first, and then place the l...

The comment is:
One thing I don't understand is, wrt 2 (the double headed arrows issue) you explicitly have latex'- in (for example) `path [latex'-, thick] (leftrow6.one south) edge[out=270, in=270] node {}(tuplebottomrow);` In my example, I use just \path[line]... where line is defined with \tikzstyle{line} = [draw, -latex', thick]. I don't understand why one worked and not the other.
 
kan
7:13 PM
Is my computer being hacked?
A sudden music played?
What the hell!
 
7:50 PM
@FaheemMitha: You still here?
 
@PeterGrill Yes. Hi, Peter.
Is it possible to "terminate" tikz arrows early?
 
Ok, working on your DNA... Can you complete this for me so that I have a real example when I post it:
 
I have the situation that my labels are obscured by arrows.
 
	\ThreeDNASequences
		{C/cyan,, A/orange,,,G/blue,,G/red!25,,C/yellow}
		{C/violet,G/brown}
		{A/cyan,G/yellow,C/brown};
 
A neat solution would be if the arrows could stop early.
 
7:52 PM
need one of these for each row...
Oh, I am re-doing it totally, haven't gotent to he arrows yet
 
@PeterGrill Ok.
 
Post it here when you have those describing your data... Hope it is self-explanatory.
 
@PeterGrill Would the first three rows of the example be Ok?
 
@FaheemMitha However many you want - yeah I guess 3 as a min would be good.
 
@PeterGrill Ok. Give me a few minutes.
@PeterGrill Just corresponding to the left hand box?
Or you want all three boxes?
 
7:56 PM
entire line: first line is sequence on left, 2nd is middle sequence, 3rd is right sequence
 
@PeterGrill Ok, but there are six such lines in my diagram, then.
You just want the first one?
 
so then it needs six calls to \ThreeDNASequences if you want all six in the example. The one I gave sort of corresponded to the first row.
 
@PeterGrill OK. Lets just do the first row for the moment.
 
no I need at least 3 to make the example work.
never mind, i'll just repaet the same lines then
 
{C/blue!20,, A/cyan!30,, G/blue!20,,, G/cyan!30,, C/cyan!30}
{C/blue!20, G/blue!20}
{A/cyan!30, G/cyan!30, C/cyan!30}
@PeterGrill That is the first row. The first set is the leftmost block, the second and third and the middle and right block respectively
I don't understand why you need three rows.
 
8:04 PM
Umm, how to use this \listfiles command?
 
@FaheemMitha Don;t worry about it. I'll make my own and you can then adapt it for your own use.
 
@PeterGrill Ok.
@PeterGrill I can add two more sets if you want. No big deal. Is the first row like you wanted?
 
@FaheemMitha Yes, I gave you my interpretation of the frist row..
 
You could just repeat that twice more, and it would still be in the correct form.
@PeterGrill Ok. Just checking I followed it correctly.
 
I don't know how to get it work as they said.
 
8:21 PM
Wow, there is actually an option to get the arrows to stop early. Called shorten. Impressive how many things the PGF developers managed to think of.
Especially since I suppose most of the time it was just Till Tantau.
 
@FaheemMitha Do you always want to lines to have multiple points on one side, and end at a single point on the other side?
 
@PeterGrill Pretty much, yes. They are merging columns together.
 
@FaheemMitha ok
On the bottom you terminate in between the nodes. Is that what you want as it is different that the other three cases where the lines terminate at the middle of the node?
Also I am ignoreing the "X" labels, and numbers - -hopefully that is something you can adapt?
 
@PeterGrill Well the reason for that is both cases it is a merge - on the bottom of two columns, and at the top of three columns.
I separated them to avoid having too many lines crossing each other. Confusing.
 
@FaheemMitha Sorry, I don't know DNA sequencing, so just need to know is the way you showed it the way you want (where the one case of line terminations is in a different location)
Oh, you were trying to avoid corssing over the labels?
 
8:28 PM
@PeterGrill Ok. Don't need to know anything about DNA. Just imagine the columns being merged according to the numbers listed.
@PeterGrill Not sure what you mean.
 
@FaheemMitha Ok, will leave that as a another tweak for you -- almost there...
 
If I put all arrows at the bottom, for example, it would have made a mess.
@PeterGrill If you have a spare moment, maybe you could look at the question I asked above... Or I could repeat it.
 
@FaheemMitha I would prefer to finish this first
 
@PeterGrill Sure.
 
@PauloCereda Quite decent first half. ;-)
 
8:48 PM
@egreg A full hand! Five! :)
 
@FaheemMitha That's a problem with the arrow tip (I think it's a bug of miscommunication of edge and latex' arrow tip. Anyways, I wouldn't use this way but I think this works out OK.
\documentclass[tikz]{standalone}

\usetikzlibrary{shapes,arrows, positioning, calc, patterns, shadows, external,chains,fit,shapes, shapes.multipart}

\begin{document}

\begin{tikzpicture}
\tikzset{
  %every path/.style={very thick},
  line/.style={draw, latex'-latex', thick},
  seq/.style={rectangle split,
    rectangle split horizontal,
    rectangle split parts=#1,
    minimum height=1cm,
    draw, anchor=center}
}

\matrix[row sep=0.5cm] at (0cm, 4cm)
{
\node [seq=10, rectangle split part fill={blue!20,white, cyan!30,white, blue!20, white, white, cyan!30,white,cyan!30}] (leftrow1)
 
9:09 PM
@percusse Well, I'd like to understand what the issue is. What is wrong with what I did?
I see you are using
line/.style={draw, latex'-latex', thick}
but the logic of this escapes me. I guess I'll have to go back to the manual.
 
@FaheemMitha I don't know by heart but I also removed the nodes and converted them into to paths.
 
@FaheemMitha: Ok, all ready for you -- hope it helps...
 
I think the style is overwritten somewhere that I don't see.
 
@percusse Hmm.
I could try stripping down the example.
@PeterGrill Thanks.
 
@percusse: Looks like I was right about not pissing of another user: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/82210/…. But just in case he was I decided not to nag him too much about his recent question...
 
9:18 PM
@FaheemMitha I would also do the same thing right now it's too involved. But it might also be the case that matrix repositions the nodes.
@PeterGrill :-) that's very considerate of you
 
@JosephWright: This question on Meta.tex.se http://meta.tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2872/chemical-equation-in-background-is-incorrect is (a) in my eyes not a feature-request, but a bug report, and should (b) tagged with [tag:status-declined].
@All native English speakers: Perhaps you want to approve my answer.
 
@percusse Well, that and the fact that David is getting way ahead of of me.. :-)
 
@PeterGrill Ehm... that too heheh
 
@PeterGrill: I notice you didn't use multipart rectangles. Too difficult to fit into your framework?
 
@percusse Well, my logic is that if I keep close to @DavidCarlisle in rep that will keep him from slacking off and we can all get better answers. :-)
@FaheemMitha I haven't used those much, but the main point in my answer was really to change the way you specify things, not the implementation of the drawing (except for the node labeling).
 
9:23 PM
@PeterGrill Ok.
 
@Speravir Can you also include the reason why it is correct to your answer? I don't know any chemistry,
 
@PeterGrill just been using up stored momentum today no time for TeX, been too busy with lego:-)
 
:-) Lego sounds like almost as much fun as TeXing.
 
@percusse Ask @Joseph or @Canageek. ;-) TBH I don’t know, what I should say there. I could add the link to the related Wikipedia page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redox or once again the link to the TeXample source texample.net/tikz/examples/oxidation-and-reduction, where the correct equation can be seen.
 
@Speravir But I think the user thinks the reaction is not correct so looking deeper won't answer the question.
 
9:31 PM
@percusse: So tempted to answer "Yes" :-) for tex.stackexchange.com/questions/82228/…... but give that the OP is new, I thought I better not...
 
@PeterGrill And that would be the end of TeX.SE
There is one person already posted one Yes and No answer.
Happens to be the same user @Speravir answered on meta.
 
@percusse Well hopefully the OP would change the question from "Does anybody know..?"
 
@PeterGrill You native speaker! Do you think we actually think what we are writing? It's an automaton with finite alphabet mostly acquired through MTV Cribs :P
 
@percusse Actually, I am not a native speaker but did move to an English speaking country whenI was young so almost a native speaker...
 
@PeterGrill Bah, details.... hehehe
 
9:37 PM
@percusse :-)
 
@percusse Answer edited.
 
9:49 PM
@egreg Oh, what a pity!!!11 ;-)
@PauloCereda Did you notice? See this obsolete revision http://tex.stackexchange.com/revisions/82228/4
 
10:23 PM
Btw, is there a newbie-image-posting how-to?
 
'Lo :-)
 
@tohecz there's a text block at meta.tex.stackexchange.com/questions/430/text-building-blocks but better would be if the system modified the behaviour of {} button for new users to do something that works
 
10:39 PM
@NicolaTalbot 'ello! :)
@Speravir Oh my! :)
 
Cue drum roll. Sound of corks popping I've uploaded flowfram v1.14 to CTAN :-)
Ha ha OR. I got the better of you!
 
@NicolaTalbot Yay! Congrats! :)
 
@PauloCereda Another cat, original source unknown, I took it from de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII-Art
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This cat probably hates Mondays. :P
 
@PauloCereda You’re probably right. ;-)
 
10:45 PM
@Speravir Did you find the answer? It has been a long time since I've done redox chem (um, first year?) but basically the answer is that in solution you don't really get NaCl, you get Na+ and Cl- ions. The equation in the background is showing the movement of electrons from Na to Cl during the course of this reaction.
 
Should I wait until the new version has established itself across all the mirrors before posting an answer that requires it or should I go ahead and answer right now? Is there an established protocol here?
 
@NicolaTalbot got your output routine working then?
 
@NicolaTalbot I'd say just post it with a comment that it requires at least version xx to work, and was uploaded to CTAN on xxxxxx.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes :-)
@PeterGrill Thanks.
 
I don't see any harm in posting a reply that says you need a specific version with a warning to check it has reached the ctan mirror
 
10:53 PM
@egreg: great game! :)
 
@PauloCereda Too easy! But there were many good plays. Unfortunately Pirlo will not play against Lazio next week.
 
@egreg Indeed. That yellow card came in a bad moment.
 
@Canageek The OP criticizes a wrong chemical equation in the site background (“Na + Cl yields NaCl and not Na + Cl”). But that’s, what the image shows: “2 Na + Cl_2 --> 2 Na^+ + 2 Cl^-” – well it shows more, but for the question that’s not important. Regarding this and after re-reading I must say, my answer actually isn’t fully correct. I’m going to edit it again in a moment.
 
@Speravir Yeah, I was discussing that equation and why it is correct.
Should I also answer it after dinner?
 
@Canageek Do, if you think, it is necessary. But my point is, the “minor issue” (cite OP) does not exist, see my latest edit.
 
11:05 PM
@Speravir I'll see if I have time after dinner. I'm too hungry to write coherently now.
 
Hey experts! If I'm making a font package that loads either the Type1 or the OpenType variant based on the engine you use, should I give XeTeX/LuaTeX users the option to override the check and load the Type1 font?
 
@DavidCarlisle Done. Thanks.
 
@Silex I don't see why one should want it in XeLaTeX; but in LuaLaTeX this might be handy: one can use LuaLaTeX almost as a drop-in replacement of pdflatex
 
11:24 PM
My eyes have gone all bleary. I'm heading off to bed. Cheerio.
 
@NicolaTalbot Very nice package indeed; and the addition seems quite powerful. Good job! And good night.
 
11:37 PM
Signs you are addicted to TeX.SE: You wonder why **not** is not showing up as bold in your document. The double asterix are there , and on both sides, so what could possible be wrong -- a LaTeX bug perhaps? Time for a new Question. :-)
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@egreg Thanks for the advice :)
 
@PeterGrill I'm thinking to define the backquote as an active character that triggers \verb. :)
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@egreg :-) I see that I am not the only one.
 
@egreg That would be silly
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{color}
\makeatletter
\let\olds*
\catcode`\*\active
\def*{\@ifnextchar*\bolds\olds}
\def\bolds*#1**{\textbf{#1}}
\catcode`\`\active
\def\zz#1`{\colorbox[gray]{0.8}{#1}`}
\def`{\verb`\zz}
\begin{document}

a `\LaTeX` **bug** ?

\end{document}
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks. I think egreg and I are not all set. :-)
 
11:48 PM
@DavidCarlisle There's a question on the site that asks how to use * ** and even *** for italic, bold and bold italic. Bruno Le Floch answered.
 
@egreg Hey, perhaps that person was addicted as well, but he decided to disguise it by changing the question slightly... :-)
 
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