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> What distinguishes a good from a bad question?
> ‘How shall a man judge what to do in such times?’
 
For order proper starters word.
 
> ‘As he ever has judged,’ said Aragorn. ‘Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves, and another among Men. It is a man’s part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house.’
@Cerberus And what purpose might that be, to separate the in-group from the out-group?
 
40 tags with 200+ questions now.
They better not tell me we need 201+.
 
Do you expect the Generalist badge script is run weekly?
 
We could check how often it's awarded on SO.
 
3:02 PM
moment
 
@tchrist Speed.
 
Ha.
As if.
Not seeing timestamps anywhere.
 
I can’t find them either.
@Cerberus It is immoral outsourcing of effort.
Write once, read many puts the onus of effort on the writer, not on a thousand readers.
 
Well. If we are still wondering two days from now, then it's not daily. If we are still wondering one week from now, we need 201, not 200.
 
3:05 PM
6 mins ago, by Cerberus
So they are OK, if everyone knows what they mean.
 
In group, out group.
Us and them.
 
I'm OK with abbreviations like OK.
 
OK is an abbreviation?
 
Oll korrekt.
 
Oh right.
Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains.
 
3:06 PM
Better down the plains than up the mountains.
 
And the waving wheat can sure smell sweet.
 
@tchrist Hence the capitals.
 
And the cotton is high.
Jul 19 at 11:20, by RegDwight АΑA
And your mom is rich, and your dad's good looking.
 
When the wind comes right behind the rain.
And the livin’ is easy.
 
But abbreviations irk me most in academic journals.
Space is no excuse any more.
 
3:07 PM
Space is still the final frontier.
That is quite an excuse, if you ask me.
 
@Reg do you live in a place with chinooks?
 
@tchrist do you live in a place without?
 
@RegDwighт I should be so lucky.
 
Not for long, then.
 
The chinooks drove the settlers mad you know.
 
3:09 PM
They had to be driven mad?
Stop rewriting history.
 
Many of them just couldn’t take it anymore so would just walk out into the frozen night during the banshee winds, walking into oblivion and peace from the chinook.
 
What chinooks?
 
Ours.
Föhn?
Mistral.
 
Sirocco.
Different shnooks.
 
3:10 PM
Same difference.
 
Salmon Bay is on the wrong side of the range.
Santa Anas are the same, I think.
 
Santa Ananas?
 
> Chinook A type of foehn wind. Refers to the warm downslope wind in the Rocky Mountains that may occur after an intense cold spell when the temperature could rise by 20 to 40 degrees Fahrenheit in a matter of minutes. Also known as the Snow Eater.
 
This is the evil kind of abbreviation I mean.
But at least the OLD has some excuse.
 
@Cerberus OED does that.
> Foehn A warm dry wind on the lee side of a mountain range, whose temperature is increased as the wind descends down the slope. It is created when air flows downhill from a high elevation, raising the temperature by adiabatic compression. Examples include the Chinook wind and the Santa Ana wind. Classified as a katabatic wind.
"Katabatic".
 
3:13 PM
When I see Luc. somewhere, how am I supposed to remember whether that was Lucretius, Lucanus, or whoever?
It's really bad.
 
I thought it an adiabatic wind.
Shows what I know.
 
We speak of föhn winds here.
And a blow-dryer is a föhn.
 
> Leveche A warm wind in Spain, either a foehn or a hot southerly wind in advance of a low pressure area moving from the Sahara Desert. Called a SIROCCO in other parts of the Mediterranean area.
> Sirocco A warm wind of the Mediterranean area, either a foehn or a hot southerly wind in advance of a low pressure area moving from the Sahara or Arabian deserts. Called LEVECHE in Spain.
See here for more wind names.
 
The sirocco is well known. Never heard of the leveche.
 
@Cerberus Reminds me of when Stephen Fry misheard phone as fern.
 
3:16 PM
Nice.
He doesn't strike me as the technical type.
 
Stephen?
 
Nor the gadgety type.
 
Stephen is 110% geek.
He even knows Perl.
And Unicode.
 
Oh, really?
Funny.
 
Yes.
My friend and co-author Nathan had dinner with him not too long ago.
When Emma Thompson’s computer crashed and lost the screenplay she would eventually win an Oscar for, she showed up to Stephen’s place in tears, and he recovered it from deleted blocks on the disk for her.
He really is a geek.
 
3:19 PM
Too bad I already appreciate him to the max, so the story changes nothing.
 
Here is where he couldn’t understand phones / ferns.
 
This is the second snippet I see from that programme, and the second snippet I like.
 
> “Well, they must go to school!”
 
Looks like out of top 50 users only Yoichi-san won't be getting Generalist.
 
REALLY?
Have you given in to SEDE?
 
3:22 PM
I looked up the entire top 10, and picked a few people at random all the way down to the end of the second page of users.
 
user19161
@RegDwighт Why does everyone call him san now? Yes I know what it means.
 
user19161
@tchrist He looks chubby!
 
@JasperLoy Who, Stephen? Yes, he often (but not always) is. Or do you mean Phil?
@RegDwighт Do you mean of that particular episode, or of the show in general?
 
user19161
@tchrist The guy in red.
 
3:26 PM
@JasperLoy Yes, Phil Jupitus is one of the larger fellows you’ll bump into.
 
@Cerberus We say "phon" for the blow-dryer.
Or asciugacapelli.
 
Does it make a cunny noise? :)
Ew, ascii.
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A: Is the use of "utf8=✓" preferable to "utf8=true"?

dotMortenYou should only use the first half of the ascii characters to define encoding since these don't change based on used encoding. Using utf8 encoded characters before even knowing what encoding to use is IMHO flat out bad design.

 
cunny?
 
Wrong answer.
 
@Alenanno Relli?
 
3:36 PM
No, Riley.
 
@Cerberus Yeah!
 
@Alenanno It’s the joke from the QI youtube clip immediately above in the chat.
 
What does (a)sciugare mean?
 
He misheard canny as cunny, I think.
Not to mention phone and fern.
 
@Cerberus to dry. :D It's like "hairdryer"
 
3:37 PM
Hmm...I only know secco.
 
Yes, but I think he may be asking why.
 
I suppose the -s- and the -c- are there.
Latin siccus.
 
I don’t have an etymological dictionary for Italian.
I should like to, though.
 
Zingarelli?
 
@Cerberus Secco means "dry" yes.
 
3:38 PM
@Alenanno Unless it is champagne. :)
In which case it is sweet.
 
Io lo so!
 
Do re mi.
 
But asciutto and secco are different.
They both mean dry but at different levels.
 
But are they cognate?
 
That I don't know...
 
3:39 PM
Doesn’t look like it.
 
And how about prosciutto?
 
tt*
 
Oops.
 
With asciutto? Uhm... Never thought about it, but it might be a coincidence.
I don't know, though.
 
> asciutto From Latin exsūctus, past participle of exsūgō, from ex + sūgō. Compare Spanish enjuto, Portuguese enxuto.
 
3:41 PM
Oh.
 
Right.
 
@tchrist And prosciutto?
 
It is possible that siccus comes from sug- too.
@Alenanno Same.
 
@Cerberus Same etymology?
 
> From Italian prosciutto, from Latin perexsiccātus, perfect passive participle of perexsiccō (“dry up completely”)
 
3:41 PM
Ah yes.
 
@Alenanno Yeah.
 
Interesting, but it makes sense after all...
 
@tchrist Wikipedia says it comes from pro-suctus.
 
seco < siccus
 
@Cerberus exsugĕre = to suck? I just saw it in my dictionary lol
Why to suck = dry?
lmao
I don't see the link but well...
 
3:43 PM
@Alenanno Yes, to suck out.
 
But sucus is juice.
 
> From Latin secum, the only form of cum + se. (The form cum se resonated with an obscene word and was therefore shunned).
 
@Cerberus I just realized... "Sùghere" in Sardinian means to suck.
 
Right!
 
3:47 PM
@tchrist finished.
 
Spanish uses chupar for to suck. The RAE claims it is onomatopoetic. A Chupachup is a brand of children’s candy sucker, while a chupada is a blowjob.
@cornbreadninja Thanks.
 
@tchrist Yes we have the chupa chups too.
 
Y lo otro? :)
@Alenanno I didn’t know they were exported.
 
Those ones?
 
Lo son.
Yes.
Those are they.
 
3:50 PM
Yes we have those... Actually they've been here for many years.
 
@tchrist show in general. I don't think it was the same episode. The guests are different.
 
@Alenanno We have those too.
 
Chupa Chups (; ) is a lollipop company founded by the Spaniard Enric Bernat in 1958, and currently owned by the Dutch-Italian multinational corporation Perfetti Van Melle. The name of the brand comes from the Spanish verb ', meaning "to suck". History In the early 1950s, Bernat worked for an apple jam factory called "Granja Asturias". After he broached the idea of making lollipops, the investors left. Bernat took over the company in 1958 and renamed it Chupa Chups. He built the production machines and sold a striped bonbon on a wooden stick for one peseta each. Bernat got the idea o...
Not tootsie-pops, alas.
 
The Chupacabra or Chupacabras (, from chupar "to suck" and cabra "goat", literally "goat sucker") is a legendary cryptid rumored to inhabit parts of the Americas. It is associated more recently with sightings of an allegedly unknown animal in Puerto Rico (where these sightings were first reported), Mexico, and the United States, especially in the latter's Latin American communities. The name comes from the animal's reported habit of attacking and drinking the blood of livestock, especially goats. Physical descriptions of the creature vary. Eyewitness sightings have been claimed as earl...
 
Tootsie Pops are hard candy lollipops filled with chocolate-flavored chewy Tootsie Roll. They were invented in 1930 by Lukas R. "Luke" Weisgram, an employee of The Sweets Company of America. The company changed its name to Tootsie Roll Industries in 1969. The candy debuted to the public in 1932. In addition to chocolate (the original flavor), Tootsie Pops come in cherry, orange, caramel, grape, raspberry, strawberry, watermelon, blue raspberry, peppermint (seasonal), and now, pomegranate, banana, and green apple flavors. Another release of Tootsie Roll Pops, named Tropical Stormz, feature...
 
3:52 PM
Tootsie is a 1982 American comedy film that tells the story of a talented but volatile actor whose reputation for being difficult forces him to adopt a new identity as a woman to land a job. The movie stars Dustin Hoffman, with a supporting cast that includes Jessica Lange, Teri Garr, Dabney Coleman, Charles Durning, Geena Davis, Bill Murray, and producer/director Sydney Pollack. Tootsie was adapted by Larry Gelbart, Barry Levinson (uncredited), Elaine May (uncredited) and Murray Schisgal from the story by Gelbart. In 1998 the United States Library of Congress deemed the film "culturall...
 
There are no blue raspberries.
Only red, black, and white/yellow/golden.
But not blue.
Although the black ones are purple.
Then again, so are the red ones.
I didn’t think apple jam was possible.
 
New images added to Google Maps.
That is, if you zoom in on the city, you will see this.
 
Still waiting for Dick Cheney's house.
nf
 
Hmm why?
Are you stalking him at the moment?
 
It’s buried under Norad.
 
user19161
4:20 PM
@RegDwighт I watched a movie with that title.
 
Only five more votes needed to give Nohat a gold badge, which would be a lot more deserved than many of recent mintage.
 
i have question on a learning method of English but in EL forum it is closed. How can i ask it in English learners? I can not login with my google id into it.
 
@tuxi That site doesn't exist yet... You can ask here for now.
(Here = chat)
 
@tchrist Right, annoying abbreviations.
You have to already know what they mean or be stumped.
Probably something like Documenta Venetiana or something.
 
It’s kinda too-localized, but you could probably give it a worthwhile/validating answer.
 
4:32 PM
The Arabic numerals could be page numbers? The Roman numerals books or chapters or whatever.
I could not, because I don't know what these documents are.
 
Looks Catholic Church, maybe?
Dunno.
 
Anybody's guess.
 
Papal bulls and such get murderously abbreviated.
 
How to cut a part of a video?
 
> 27 Doc. Fen. XI. Cf. PP. 147?8 seqq., and App. III.
Well, I can do the seqq part. :(
And the Cf.
But the ? is an encoding bug for an en dash.
And PP. could be anything.
 
user19161
4:35 PM
@tuxi So what is the question.
 
@tchrist pause
 
user19161
@Gigili You need a video editor.
 
Gotta go, bye everyone!
 
@JasperLoy Obviously, but I need a more useful hint.
 
user19161
@Gigili Just use Windows Movie Maker though it does not handle flv files. Either convert to wmv, avi, mpg and then edit or get an flv editor.
 
4:37 PM
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Q: Term for people in artistic formation

WAFIs there a term for a group of people arranged in such a way as to appear from an aerial vantage as a specific shape, picture or word? Examples:

 
@Cerberus I now know all the answers!
 
I actually know the answer to this. I posted it here a while back.
 
user19161
@Gigili Windows Movie Maker comes on your Windows already. If not hunt for any video editor. There are 9000 free ones.
 
The bug is she started reading the footnotes at chapter 7.
 
Instead we get people guessing.
 
4:38 PM
The abbreviations are defined upon first use, often in chapter 1’s footnotes.
 
OK, let me ignore @tchrist first.
 
@RegDwighт This was the cool picture you posted, right?
 
Good.
 
@tchrist I included two in my answer, yes.
 
@JasperLoy I know, but it doesn't open my file which is .wmv
 
4:39 PM
The accepted answer has a guess, linked to another guess. Well, had. I fixed the link so it at least is consistent with itself.
But that clearly gives away guessing.
 
@tchrist Yeah, no way to know.
 
user19161
@Gigili Wait, you mean Windows Movie Maker can't open a wmv file?
 
That's what I said.
 
@Cerberus If you start here, all is made clear.
 
user19161
@Gigili Can the file be opened in Windows Media Player?
 
4:41 PM
@JasperLoy Yes, I can open it with WMP and VLC.
 
user19161
@Gigili Hmm, this is strange. Well, then use something else then. I used to convert everything to flv in the past and then use an flv editor. flv files are small and still clear enough.
 
@Cerb, do you know?
 
user19161
Erm, I just answered you but never mind, you can ask for Cerb's advice.
 
@JasperLoy OK, I'll try to find a converter.
Thank you.
 
@tchrist How? I'm not reading all those notes...
@Gigili Know what?
 
4:45 PM
11 mins ago, by Gigili
How to cut a part of a video?
 
@Gigili I would use Avidemux.
I'm not sure whether it accepts all file types, but then you could just use a converter to convert it to .avi.
 
@Cerberus Don’t blame you.
 
user19161
@Cerberus I was wondering why Windows Movie Maker cannot open a WMV file.
 
I have no idea.
Never used WMM.
 
Hello
what would you call a theater performed in street?
nemidoonin?
 
5:04 PM
A theatre is a building...
 
@JasperLoy I need to develop my listening.

I assume if i listen something with a synchronize reading of the "same" passage, my listening skills will be developed.

Where can i find such synchronized reading and listening materials? There are one internet site with upper intermediate level vocabulary.

But i need to pass TOEFL and i want to practice to hear and read advanced, maybe a little academic vocabulary.
 
Do you mean a play?
An street play? An open-air play?
 
user19161
@tuxi Hmm, I don't know. Maybe someone else can help.
 
@Cerberus I meant a play, yes
Street theatre is a form of theatrical performance and presentation in outdoor public spaces without a specific paying audience. These spaces can be anywhere, including shopping centres, car parks, recreational reserves and street corners. They are especially seen in outdoor spaces where there are large numbers of people. The actors who perform street theatre range from buskers to organised theatre companies or groups that want to experiment with performance spaces, or to promote their mainstream work. Sometimes performers are commissioned, especially for street festivals, children's s...
 
@Meysam nemidoonan
 
5:10 PM
@Gigili to midooni?
 
@Meysam Yes, the genre can be called street theatre, but not a street theatre.
When you said a, I thought you meant a specific performance.
 
@Meysam kheyme shabbazi yani?
 
5:51 PM
Then you should be taking this to English.SE. — Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams 1 hour ago
Would you guys agree with Ignacio here?
 
Em1
Hello
Any moderator currently online?
 
@OliverSalzburg I'm not quite sure what he expects. We can do a corpus search for collocations, yes. But he seems to put so much stress on the technical side of things. In which case it's kind of pointless; some CPUs use fetch, others use load. And you go with whatever the CPU in question uses.
Outside of that domain, fetch quite obviously doesn't mean anything remotely resembling load.
 
Em1
@RegDwighт I've a question ... Are moderators able to still see deleted comments?
 
Yes.
Sorry.
 
Em1
Hahaha... :D
 
5:59 PM
It used to be no.
 
Em1
OK. Good to know.
 
But then they added an option.
 
Em1
So, when flagging comments as obsolete I can go ahead and delete my comments related to the flagged comments directly.
 
So now we can see a list of deleted comments, along with how many votes they had, who posted them, who deleted them etc.
 
Ha, I just deleted my way out of 38 reps.
 
6:00 PM
@Em1 what mods can't see, which is why I was so quick to give the wrong answer, is comment edit history. Unlike here in chat, I can't see who changed a comment in which ways and when.
 
Em1
Well, I consider comment edit history as unimportant since they're not frequently edited.
 
There's only a five-minute window, yes. But it is theoretically possible for someone to call you a prick and then edit it into a "thank you so much" after four minutes.
 
Em1
Yeah. Most likely nobody will notice that.
 
@Robusto here?
Talk about killing indiscriminately, including.
 
6:16 PM
You would have kept the reps had the question survived for another seven weeks.
 
@RegDwighт Thanks
 
@RegDwighт Yup.
@RegDwighт I know. I'm ruined ... ruined, I tell you ...
I can't seem to get Blu-Ray movies to play on my new computer's Blu-Ray player. WTF?
On the plus side, the SSD boot drive launches Windows like a rocket.
ONLY 89 updates in Windows Update
 
7:09 PM
Hm. So now people @-mention me as Susan.
 
@RegDwighт: What are Festplatten? I mean, I know what the parts mean, but what are they really?
If something is ein Such-Programm für Festplatteninhalte it's a search program for "party disc" contents? I feel like a German pineapple.
 
@Robusto eine Festplatte is a solid drive.
 
Oh, that kind of fest.
 
Or just a drive, really. If could be fluid, people would still call it fest.
 
I have a solid-state boot drive, so I guess that's what it's referring to.
 
7:15 PM
Kind of like your motherboard could be your uncle, wouldn't matter.
 
I see.
If my motherboard had balls it would be my fatherboard.
 
Ein Festplattenlaufwerk ( = HDD), oft auch als Festplatte oder Hard Disk (abgekürzt HD) bezeichnet, ist ein magnetisches Speichermedium der Computertechnik, welches Daten auf die Oberfläche einer rotierenden Scheibe schreibt. Dazu wird die hartmagnetische Beschichtung der Plattenoberfläche entsprechend der aufzuzeichnenden Information magnetisiert. Durch die Remanenz erfolgt die Speicherung der Information. Das Auslesen der Information erfolgt durch Abtastung der Magnetisierung der Plattenoberfläche. In Abgrenzung zu sequentiell adressierbaren Speichermedien wie Magnetband oder Lochs...
Well, that's laconic.
 
Yeah, that's just a regular hard drive.
 
Then that's what it's.
 
Ah, crap, here we go on the reboot train. Back in a moment.
 
7:17 PM
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A: What do references like "Docc Rom." and similar mean?

CerberusIn 1933, Vicenzo Spampanato published many documents on the life of Bruno under the title Documenti della vita di Giordano Bruno. He divided these documents into the Documenti Veneti and the Documenti Romani, and numbered each document with a Roman numeral. The Arabic numerals most probably indi...

Okay, I researched it.
Those comment replies I kept getting were annoying, so there.
 
You had to research that?
 
Yes.
You didn't?
The notes don't mention the full title.
 
What could "Docc Rom" possibly stand for other than "Documenti Romani" — "Romney Doctrine"?
 
Documenta Romana.
 
I'll laugh later.
 
7:19 PM
Of course it had be something like that, either Latin or Italian, but the OP wanted to know the edition, of course.
 
Damn, now every time I read "Suzan" in a comment, I feel like it's addressing me.
 
I didn't know that was your real name.
A friend of mine's last name is actually Susan.
 
No, I got called Susan and can't shake it off.
@Susan taken, copied, copypasted are acceptable, stolen and plagiarized.... I thought these two words are for something taken without being known/told by/to anyone... — user1643156 1 hour ago
How my original comment could make him think that was my name, is beyond me.
 
> I came from Alabama / wid my ban jo on my knee, / I’m g’wan to Louisiana, / My true love for to see, / It raind all night the day I left /The weather it was dry, / The sun so hot I frose to death / Susanna dont you cry.
 
Well, Reg...Susan...see how they sound almost the same?
Like bib and quetzalcoatl.
 
7:25 PM
> I jumped aboard de telegraph, / And trabbelled down de riber, / De Lectric fluid magnified, / And Killed five Hundred Nigger / De bullgine buste, de horse run off, / I realy thought I’d die; / I shut my eyes to hold my breath, / Susana, dont you cry.
> I had a dream de odder night, / When ebery ting was still; / I thought I saw Susana, / A coming down de hill. / The buckwheat cake war in her mouth, / The tear was in her eye, / Says I, im coming from de South, / Susana, dont you cry.
> I soon will be in New Orleans, / And den I’ll look all round, / And when I find Susana, / I’ll fall upon the ground. / But if I do not find her, / Dis darkie ’l surely die, / And when I’m dead and buried, / Susana, dont you cry.
 
@Cerberus Yeah, I once asked a quetzalcoatlliothecary for a Quetzalcoatlle. He was a quetzalcoatlulous fellow.
 
For some reason, kids these days never sing that whole song right as it was told aforetimes. No idea why not.
 
Em1
@RegDwighт I just tried to notificate all moderators in GLU chat. Since there isn't a suggestion when they aren't active in chat I wonder how to do this (especially because theoretically nicks on main and chat can be different). Is there a term like "@moderators", too? How can I find out the exact chat name of a person?
 
@Em1 you can only ping all mods with a special keyword in the Teachers' Lounge. Not in other rooms.
 
Em1
What does this mean?
 
7:30 PM
You will have to ping them individually unless you are a mod in the Teachers' Lounge.
To find out the exact chat name, go to chat.stackexchange.com/users, search, copypaste.
But if someone hasn't been to chat for enough time, I don't think you can ping them at all.
And you certainly can't ping people who've never been to chat.
 
Em1
So, "Tim N" and "splattne" are quite hard to ping.
And unfortunately I know that my post does only concern them, not you.
 
user19161
@RegDwighт I can ping whoever I want in my dreams.
 
Em1
Apropos, what about space in names, like "Tim N". when pinging
 
Pretty sure this is a dupe:
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Q: the use of " 's " with absolute pronouns

user1425I wonder, how far is it acceptable to use 's with absolute pronouns. This is a book of a friend of mine's sister. or Should it be: This is a book of a/the sister of my friend./or/ This is a book of a/the sister of my friend's.

 
Em1
@RegDwighт Just being curious. Why I'm not able to see the comments I flagged, especially if they are declined (in those cases they are still existing for sure.
 
7:34 PM
@Em1 remove it.
Otherwise you're pinging all Tims about some N.
@Em1 just another symptom of comments being second-class citizens to answers, I guess.
 
Em1
@RegDwighт Wahnsinnig geil :)
 
I gave up after eight dupes.
Needs closing.
 
@Cerberus Beautiful work on Docc.Rom. Way to show them candy-asses at History.SE.
 
@StoneyB I’ve seen burros used for piñatas before.
 
@StoneyB Haha thanks. It wasn't hard.
 
7:51 PM
@Cerberus Maybe not, but I was poring through the bibliography to Braudel's Mediterranean World trying to find collections of Roman and Venetian state papers. You were looking at the actual evidence.
@tchrist Eh? The allusion escapes me.
 
@StoneyB Candy asses.
 
@tchrist 'doh (very small case)
 
@StoneyB I just Googled docc rom documenti romani.
Then browsed a few articles until I found enough information to be sure it was Sampanato's.
BRB
 
8:41 PM
@DavidWallace David, why do I no longer see you in the chat? Do you have a new job and, hence, you do not have enough time? I have a lot of questions on your fascinating country.
 
8:57 PM
@carlo maybe stop pinging him all the time? He might just not want to be the Wikipedia of NZ when he stops in to chat
3
 
 
2 hours later…
10:35 PM
Hello.
 
11:02 PM
Yes.
@simchona David is the Kiwipedia Incarnate. He probably has solid blue eyes.
 
I don't believe the eyes have anything to do with the bloodline...
The spice.
 
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