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Ward
Ward
7:18 AM
@ShaneMadden I used a ton of close votes today by searching on SO for migrated questions and VTCing most of the ones that got migrated to SF.
 
Iain
Iain
7:34 AM
G'day
 
Ward
Ward
7:44 AM
While hacking down stuff in our overgrown back yard, I had a visitor... unfortunately, by the time I ran inside and got my camera, he was heading out the back:
 
Iain
Iain
@MarkHenderson occasionally someone goes straight to the team but it looks like they flagged then emailed.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
That looks like a bear.
 
Ward
Ward
It is indeed a small black bear... it can be exciting living in a rainforest. Quite cute and fuzzy, but very stinky.
 
Dan
Dan
8:06 AM
I'm failing so badly at getting Hyper V 2012 up that it hurts
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Ward I was told it can get pretty tricky dealing with an angry bear.
At least the polar bear I guess.
 
mmmshuddup
mmmshuddup
8:26 AM
hello
is this a place for live support?
7
lol
 
Dan
Dan
@mmmshuddup Nope, this is the place for insulting folk!
 
mmmshuddup
mmmshuddup
lol
 
 
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Dan
Dan
11:47 AM
quiet today!
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
Could be my fault.
 
pauska
pauska
meep
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
12:21 PM
Columbus day. Many lucky #%$@s get it off. Bastards and whatnot.
 
Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange
The Nubby Admin: RedHat Official RHCSA / RHCE Information Sources
posted on October 08, 2012 by Wesley David

If you’re following along at home with the 2012 Red Hat Study Buddy Group, there’s a handful of folks (myself included) who have decided to nab some Red Hat certifications before the year ends. Perhaps that will lead to better things in the year 2013, but it certainly can’t lead to worse things (famous last words?). I’ve compiled a short list of some of the more pertine…

 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
12:39 PM
@Ward Is that the mighty @ThomasPornin its natural habitat?
@HopelessN00b According to my calendar Columbus Day isn't until November 23rd.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ScottPack Maybe you should put in a ticket with IT about that. I think your calendar might be ... not working very rightly.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:59 PM
hmm
superuser.com/review-beta/close/38291 this on topic for SF? (that is to say, should I VTM or VTC)
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
On topic, but maybe not enough info to help the guy.
 
Dan
Dan
@HopelessN00b That's my thoughts
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I just did a generic VT close. Not my fault if it ends up here ;p
 
Dan
Dan
I'd give it a chance, personally
 
pauska
pauska
@chopper3 ding me back here when you're available, need to pick your brain about DL 360 G5 memory
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
1:09 PM
@pauska DL 360 G5s use RAM for memory. And a little bit of ROM.
 
pauska
pauska
 
tombull89
tombull89
@pauska What do you want to know? I run one so might be able to help out.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
Oh, sorry if I came off like I was joking... G5s really do use RAM and ROM for memory, though.
 
pauska
pauska
@tombull89 I can't remember if you can populate all 8 slots with a single CPU
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
Just ask tombull.
@pauska Up to 64 GB of memory, supported by 8 slots of PC2-5300 Fully Buffered DIMMs (DDR2-667); 4:1 interleaving; memory mirroring; online spare
Nevermind, that has nothing to do with the procs. I'd check for you, but the bosses might not be amused if I yank a proc on a production box to "check something." They sure weren't last time.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
1:15 PM
What about G5 ProLiants?
@pauska What did you need?
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ewwhite @pauska wants to know if you can use 8 dimms of RAM with one proc in a G5 DL360.
 
tombull89
tombull89
@pauska Mine's dual CPU and I woudln't know off the top of my head, sorry. I dare say ewwhite can help though.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
That's the last model before CPU-specific DIMMS were the norm.
So yeah, you can... There are only 8 slots on that server, though. Kinda bleh.
and the RAM for G5's is at a premium.
Oh, and you have to populate in pairs.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
See, I knew this was a place for live support, despite the misleading text under the room name.
 
tombull89
tombull89
I've got 4 x 1GB of HP RAM from the DL360 going spare - I put larger modules in mine.
 
pauska
pauska
1:23 PM
yeah, the prices for the ram has gone up.. extremely
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@HopelessN00b That would be a ticket to HR.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ScottPack So your HR department tries to override the rest of the world too? Must be an HR thing.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@HopelessN00b Tries? They seem to be doing a pretty successful job of it. I try not to think about the consequences.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ScottPack Clearly, your IT department is dropping the ball and not doing its due diligence in keeping the HR folks from effectively using computer resources. You guys clearly need t hire a better BOFH to deal with HR.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@HopelessN00b HR is quite good at keeping themselves from using computer resources. How else do you describe paper forms for reporting time off?
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
1:29 PM
@ScottPack If they're not using computers, how'd they get their heresy on your calendar?
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@HopelessN00b Oh! Sorry, I understand the confusion now. The holiday schedule is posted on their departmental website, but is not integrated into the calendaring system.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ScottPack Oh, that's much better. You've managed to contain HR to its own little online cesspool.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@HopelessN00b We can't take credit for that, unfortunatley.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ScottPack You're not trying hard enough. You can take credit for anything.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@HopelessN00b The problem with taking credit is that you also set yourself up for taking the blame.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
1:34 PM
True. So you're being smart and don't want to take the blame credit. not quite the same as being unable to take the blame credit.
 
pauska
pauska
@ewwhite thanks btw
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
I take no responsibility if it crashes and burns!
 
Dan
Dan
@ewwhite Ooh, too late now!
 
tombull89
tombull89
sound of plane going down in flames newwwwwwwwwwghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
Dan
Dan
I'm getting this error when installing an MSI:

The application tried to modify a protected Windows registry key

Google is so unhelpful it hurts
I appear to be one of 3 people to have ever gotten this error :(
(Oh and that's running as admin, with UAC off, too :S)
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
1:38 PM
Sounds to me like your installer tried to modify a protected Windows registry key. :)

Fire up ProceXPlorer and unprotect the key.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
@Dan Have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
pauska
pauska
@Dan tried running compatibility mode?
 
Dan
Dan
@HopelessN00b Don't tempt me
@pauska I haven't, no, but I'm 99.9% certain it's properly Win7 compatible
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@Dan Oh, c'mon... who knows better about your system? You, or some developer in the Pacific northwest?
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
1:55 PM
Obviously, some developer in the Pacific Northwest.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@MichaelHampton Yeah, the silence is telling. Understandable, (I'd be in a shamed silence too) but telling.
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
@pauska Hiya
 
Dan
Dan
@HopelessN00b Hrmph
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
Always trust Microsoft. They know what's best for you and your enterprise.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
:D
 
pauska
pauska
2:05 PM
@Chopper3 Got my answer from ewwhite. Fuck me G5 memory modules are expensive.
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
only JUST got right a shitload of it too :( to be fair I did offer it around on here first
 
DJ Pon3
DJ Pon3
2:18 PM
0
Q: Additional IP: a valid reason for RIPE

UserpasswordFor about 2 month I have tried to get additional IP addresses for my server and all fail: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-553 The server admin cannot give me additional ipv4 IPs, because I did not give a "valid reason." Failed reasons: [SEO] My webpage dropped by 20 position next day when...

ip
<shakes head>
 
Dan
Dan
@DJPon3 What a bizarre question
Where's the IIS daemon :D
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
We aren't going to help you with your black-hat SEO. Sounds like RIPE was perfectly justified in rejecting these invalid requests. — Michael Hampton 24 secs ago
 
tombull89
tombull89
@MichaelHampton What the hell is black-hat SEO? I know what SEO is, but isn't black-hat a security term?
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
@tombull89 Using unethical or illegal techniques to increase your site's position in the search rankings.
 
tombull89
tombull89
@MichaelHampton So, something like blog/comment spam?
also, DEVOPS!

Systems Engineer - DevOps at QMetric Group Ltd.

puppetpythonvagrantsysadmindevops

We are looking for either a developer who understands scale, non-functional requirements and the production environment or a systems engineer who can cut code. We are very…

Posted on Careers 2.0 on September 14, 2012

 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
2:24 PM
Yeah, only at the web site level.
 
tombull89
tombull89
If you do well and it’s Friday you might also get to play Team Fortress. and Brand new 27” iMac’s – We invest in excellence in both people and tools
 
Dan
Dan
I hate corporate bullshit as much as the next person, but this sounds dangerous:

No Project Managers – we believe in hands-on delivery, not managing expectations.
No titles – we are flat in structure and everyone has the same opportunity to step up!
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
@tombull89 Spamdexing gives a good overview of what's going on here.
 
DJ Pon3
DJ Pon3
Fuck playing team fortress at work. I'd rather just go home or go out and just not be at work
 
Dan
Dan
@DJPon3 Ah, it has some merit on a quiet afternoon when the office needs manning
 
tombull89
tombull89
2:31 PM
Dunno about you guys, but I'd prefer two 19" or 22" screens than one 27".
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@Dan That's how Valve operates
And they're huge
Also, the incorrect use of 's in "iMac's" really turns me off.
 
DJ Pon3
DJ Pon3
yes. It's fussy but sadly I agree with you
Sad that I'm that fussy too, not that I agree with you!
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
haha
It's like people that write stuff like "Looking for a candidate with experience in Windows and MACs"
You don't fucking capitalize the whole thing unless you want a L2 switching expert.
 
Iain
Iain
the OP has flagged this to say it's not a dupe and can it be reopened. So far me, Splatne and ChrisS have looked at it and I guess are leaving it because we don't have a clue - advice appreciated
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Q: Migrating Xen PV to KVM (not Xen HVM to KVM)

Frank Possible Duplicate: Migration from Xen to KVM I have two different servers, Xen PV Server and KVM Server. How the easiest way for migrating Xen PV to KVM on different server ?

xen kvm-virtualization pv
The OP has even edited it to clarify
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
@Iain It looks exactly like a dupe, hell it's almost word-for-word the same. If the poster believes he has a different question, he should ask the different question.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
2:38 PM
I can't run 2 demons Consider yourself lucky. You know how much an exorcism costs when it's to remove just a single demonic presence? — HopelessN00b 13 secs ago
 
Iain
Iain
@MichaelHampton I'm not familiar with the difference between PV and HVM so cluelessness ensues
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
@Iain For converting the VM to KVM, there is no difference.
You run virt-v2v and get on with your day.
A question I wouldn't consider a duplicate would read something like: I read this SF question and ran virt-v2v and here's what happened, how do I fix it?
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@tombull89 All these DevOps guys ads are making me really curious... I'm very tempted to make a fake identity, submit a fake resume and see what they'd pay a guy like to go all DevOps and fuck up environments with 100% more efficiency.
 
tombull89
tombull89
@HopelessN00b Well, that one was in London, but I dare say if you have a look around on Careers you'll find one a bit closer to home.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@tombull89 Yeah, there's actually a couple real close to home. I'm a little hesitant about trying it though, on the off-chance that they're actually offering what I'd consider a fair price for my sysadmin soul.
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
2:45 PM
@HopelessN00b Et tu, Brute
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@MichaelHampton Meh, soul's a vestigial organ anyway. Can't remember the last time I used mine, or even what it's for, so if I can get a good price for it...
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
tasty, tasty cookies... I need people to bake for me :(
 
pauska
pauska
3:22 PM
@Chopper3 just my kind of luck then :) it's OK, the company pays for it. Was going to just buy the complete 64GB, but it's no point really with prices going so high. Looks like 4x4GB will suffice.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
3:54 PM
Why are RAM prices on the climb?
(I haven't had to buy hardware in a long time)
 
pauska
pauska
I don't think they are, it's just that memory for the G5 is limited supply
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Oh I see
DDR2 probably?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MDMarra Shortage of virgins so we've been sacrificing rams.
 
pauska
pauska
Yep
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
4:20 PM
I can't vote to close a question with an open bounty?!
 
pauska
pauska
I can..
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
Did you actually try it?
 
pauska
pauska
which one?
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
Here's the question I was going to hit Too Localized on:
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Q: Setting up PTR in Plesk

Ivanhoe123I added the following entry (Plesk -> Domain settings -> DNS Settings): 12.345.678.912 / 24 PTR mail.domain.com The IP address matches the mail.domain.com IP address as that is the one which sends out emails. I checked the PTR here and the checker says that there is no PTR record. I tried with...

iis7 smartermail
 
pauska
pauska
4:46 PM
Well, that's not really a valid close IMHO
The author doesn't understand that he can't just create PTR records on his own
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
4:56 PM
@pauska 99.9% of our questions lately are a total failure to understand how the internet works
 
pauska
pauska
yeah, we're getting flooded by programmers who suddenly are sysadmins
F U C K Y O U D E V O P S
 
TylerShads
TylerShads
@pauska flagged for offensive.
<3
 
Adrian
Adrian
mornin gents.
@MichaelHampton It's a Plesk-only question. It needs to be migrated or hammered close.
I was under the impression from the meta question that Qs that were specific to one of those crutches and were not answerable without going outside the app to the CLI were off-topi?
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
@MDMarra FB-DIMMs were something of a cul-de-sac
 
Adrian
Adrian
I was under the impression from @voretaq7 's meta answer that Qs that were specific to one of those crutches and were not answerable without going outside the app to the CLI were off-topic?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
5:12 PM
@pauska I can get you that RAM cheap.
Thanks eewhite. Yup, I think MegaCLI is ugly - but their controllers are top notch, and CacheCade seriously kicks butt! I don't care about the HP integrated management - more of a PITA than not, if you ask me. I've already got a VM set up for syslog, CACTI and a few other management tools - all with email alerts. Covers my entire infrastructure, not just the HP specific stuff. I tend to find the vendor-specific solutions deceptive. At first they seem like a good deal because they are "free", but very quickly you find yourself locked into them to keep that "ease of use". — EricEE 1 min ago
@chopper3 This is why I think HP doesn't appeal to people like this...
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@ewwhite It's a great response if you don't give a single fuck about support
Is this the guy that got a free G5 for a non-profit?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
Yes
My coworkers are the same way...
so we battle SuperMicro problems that would never surface in an HP environment
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
@ewwhite I agree
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ewwhite To be fair, HP's management software really sucks compared to Dell's. But that's no excuse to ditch it because "lock in" or whatever stupid reason he had.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@HopelessN00b I don't use the full management suite, but I make sure to leverage the agents and monitoring available for the hardware.
I think HP and Dell solutions are about equal, now that they both have repos.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
5:22 PM
I mean, if you accept handouts for out-of-warranty products because you have no funding, then that's a fine attitude to have. The problem is that sometimes these people take jobs in other areas that can actually afford support and brand-name kit and they bring the white-box attitude with them.
White-box is great for poor hand-me-down NPs and giants like Google. If you fall anywhere in the middle, then it's obviously a bad choice.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ewwhite I've found Dell's a lot more useful, intuitive and easy to manage/integrate... but they both will do what you need, even if I find it a bigger pain in the ass with HP. Just no excuse for not using them, IMO.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
They guy is talking about CacheCade from LSI... lsi.com/channel/products/storagesw/Pages/…
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Never heard of it.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ewwhite Do they have a really bad rep, or am I thinking of someone else?
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
I was commenting more on the "fuck it, i'll build it myself" mentality
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
5:25 PM
LSI is good hardware... but its tools suck.
and firmware and shit is really flaky.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Isn't everything really just rebadged LSI anyway?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
I have to use LSI for my ZFS solutions..
Naw, HP's controllers are their own
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@ewwhite Right, that's what it was. I remember now. That was a week of pure hell.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
Dell's PERC controllers are usually LSI
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
They manufacture their own controller chips?
 
Adrian
Adrian
5:27 PM
@MDMarra Hell, we don't even do white box anymore
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@MDMarra It's their own spec/format/toolset.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Interesting. I thought it was similar to Dell - rebadged LSI w/ custom firmware/tools.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
There's nothing wrong with white-box (though I prefer a black case).

For personal use.
 
Adrian
Adrian
The LSI/3ware stuff in our SuperMicro's is what got my boss into the attitude of RAID being more of a PITA than it's worth.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
I mean, yes, the processor on the card may be something more standard, but HP's Smart Array technology is proprietary.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
5:29 PM
whats that mean
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Adrian His ISP got the message apparently so y'all can close it :P
 
Adrian
Adrian
@voretaq7 has a bounty on it.
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
5:44 PM
@voretaq7 Can't close it with a bounty on it, the bounty has to be gotten rid of first.
 
Adrian
Adrian
@MichaelHampton He's ignoring us. He clearly needs to be spanked with a cat of 9 tails made out of wet spaghetti noodles.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MichaelHampton meh - it wont take votes huh?
 
Adrian
Adrian
@voretaq7 big red box saying that it has a bounty
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Adrian stupid bounty
HMS Bounty
{| |} HMS Bounty, also known as HM Armed Vessel Bounty, was a small merchant vessel purchased by the Royal Navy for a botanical mission. The ship was sent to the Pacific Ocean to acquire breadfruit plants and transport them to British possessions in the West Indies. That mission was never completed, as disagreements between Lieutenant William Bligh and his acting Sailing Master, Fletcher Christian, led to a revolt by half of the crew and their seizure of the vessel on 28 April 1789, leading to the Mutiny on the Bounty. Origin and description Bounty was originally known as collier ...
 
Adrian
Adrian
Honestly, I think the minimum rep for a bounty ought to be about 250.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
5:51 PM
@Adrian I think you should be able to add to a bounty pot. But "there are no plans to work on that" <pout>
 
Adrian
Adrian
@voretaq7 I could support that. But, we being ServerFault, don't count for much.
 
Iain
Iain
@Adrian welcome to VTC club
 
Adrian
Adrian
@Iain Thank you. I'm rather enjoying it at the moment. And amused that simply by working me way through the queue over the next 2-3 months I get another gold badge =)
 
Iain
Iain
@Adrian cool
 
Adrian
Adrian
Had a nice chat with an old friend over breakfast yesterday. Definite eye-opener and pretty much echoes what @ewwhite is saying about DevOps. Time for me to focus on light-duty programming languages like Python instead of certifications, otherwise this crappy situation here is likely to be the pinnacle of my career.
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
6:00 PM
@voretaq7 We can't put close votes on a question with a bounty on it. It's one of those stupid status-bydesign things.
 
Iain
Iain
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@MichaelHampton status-broken-by-design
 
Adrian
Adrian
@Iain Nice. Will give that a read too. I spend too much time dinking around configuring email and database systems, need to start scripting ALL that stuff.
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
Doesn't fucking markdown let us post meta tags?
 
Iain
Iain
is that what you wanted ?
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
6:05 PM
More or less.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
:P
(and no - all tags get mapped to the site the room is associated with -- in our case the main site)
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@Adrian That's about right.
 
Adrian
Adrian
@ewwhite Talk about crappy timing. He quit Amazon right before AWS hit the big time, which he absolutely loves.
Talked to my little birdies inside Microsoft this weekend too. Azure has big problems. I think I'm going to stay the hell away from that even for the MS Networking stuff I'm building here.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
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Q: How to connect frontend and backend Linux servers using cable?

alfishI'm trying to connect a web server A, with a database server B so that they have the least possible delay. Both servers run Debian, are on the same rack and are connected together by a cable on their second Ethernet port . here are the /etc/network/interfaces specs. Server A (front) auto lo if...

networking linux-networking
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
6:13 PM
@Adrian Hell, we could tell Azure has big problems from the outside.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
I'm debating whether or not to vote to close this
 
Michael Hampton
Michael Hampton
@MDMarra We don't have a "you should have learned this before being hired" close reason.
 
Adrian
Adrian
@MichaelHampton This is true.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@MDMarra WTF?!? "Networks always start with even numbers." ???
 
Adrian
Adrian
@MikeyB Network ID.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
6:17 PM
He probably means "The network address is always even, by virtue of having no lower bits set."
 
Adrian
Adrian
Annoys the hell out of me when people obfuscate RFC1918 IPs.
 
Chris S
Chris S
@MikeyB Wow! That's impressive.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
My decoding of that?
 
Adrian
Adrian
@MikeyB The fact that you can fluently parse Ijit-ese. =)
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
Uh, what the hell? Who upvoted that?

I mean, obviously you connect them by forcing a power cable into the Ethernet ports, and probably with a sledgehammer.
 
pauska
pauska
6:28 PM
@Adrian Well, it shouldn't annoy you. Creating obscure RFC1918 networks is gold when you need VPN connectivity to other sites, or to employees home network (like an IP VPN phone).
 
Adrian
Adrian
@pauska Eh? I meant in the questions. Like this one: serverfault.com/questions/436071/…
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@MikeyB wait what?
 
Adrian
Adrian
I'd rather have people replace the numbers with Xs instead since it's clear that it's obfuscation then and not a mere misconfiguration.
 
pauska
pauska
aaah, I see.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
The network address is always even?
as in an even number?
 
Adrian
Adrian
6:31 PM
@MDMarra Network ID cannot be an odd number since the 32nd bit is never used unless it's a single IP assignment.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
oh right
That's one of those things that you just do and don't think about haha
Hey, can one of you mods give this fine gent a time out for his comment on my answer?
 
pauska
pauska
I can't see any offending comment?
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
@MDMarra what was he responding to? surely not your comments?
@pauska gone already - quite nasty though
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@pauska "Gimmie teh codez!"
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Apparently he deleted it already or it was deleted already
 
Jeff Ferland
Jeff Ferland
6:33 PM
@pauska I think the comment was already flagged / deleted. Only a mod can see those.
 
pauska
pauska
GIEF ME THE ETH ROUTING CODE THX
 
Adrian
Adrian
The 1st one at 37 minutes ago was snotty enough as it is.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Yeah he said I was a fat fuck (I weight 190lbs) and an arrogant shit and that I make serverfault a shitty place to come to
almost verbatim
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
Oh, so it was worse than "Gimmie teh codez." Cool.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
And that he can't be the only one that cringes when he sees me answer a question.
If that doesn't deserve a suspension or -100 for offensive I don't know what does.
2
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
6:34 PM
@MDMarra Maybe he was talking about me?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@Adrian Eh, I wouldn't want to work for AWS anyway.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@Chopper3 He commented on my answer haha
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@MDMarra Or - 613, maybe?
 
Chopper3
Chopper3
@MDMarra I agree, he deserves to be spoken to - however nasty even I can be I never swear in my comments and his comment was inappropriate
 
Adrian
Adrian
@ewwhite From what I've heard, all those big companies with local offices are losing staff faster than they can hire them. Google is apparently losing staff about 10% faster than they can be replaced.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
6:35 PM
I'm sure @voretaq7 or @ChrisS can see the deleted comment
 
Chris S
Chris S
Who what?
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
I asked that someone suspend that gentleman for his comment, but by the time I linked it was already deleted.
 
Adrian
Adrian
@ewwhite They're apparently learning that they can't hire people if they get a reputation for burning them out and punting them right before their options vest.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
who deletes what now with teh wing-wang?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@Adrian Probably true.
 
pauska
pauska
6:36 PM
@MDMarra was it the OP that commented?
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@pauska Ya
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
yep
 
Joel E Salas
Joel E Salas
@pauska It was. He was a piece of work, DO MY JOB FOR ME
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Because I told him to read man route instead of giving him a config file to copy & paste
I was actually pretty polite about it too
 
pauska
pauska
well, @voretaq7 should be able to dig up that comment
I can only see deleted answers
 
Chris S
Chris S
6:37 PM
@MDMarra Did you edit your Answer before the 5 minute timer was up?
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Nope
Not at all
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@JoelESalas why the past tense?
 
pauska
pauska
rest of his comments vanished aswell
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
Still does want teh codez, far as I can tell.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Actually, not true. I added "persistent" in front of "static route" but nothing that changed the tone or context.
 
Jeff Ferland
Jeff Ferland
6:39 PM
@ChrisS did you click on mod, and does it have a line like, "show 3 deleted comments" ?
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@JeffFerland I'm pretty sure he was asking me (in a polite way) "were you a fucking asshole and provoked him, then edited within the 5 minute window"
To which, the answer is no.
 
Jeff Ferland
Jeff Ferland
Oh
shrug
 
Chris S
Chris S
@JeffFerland Yes.
 
Jeff Ferland
Jeff Ferland
I'll go wear my dunce hat now.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
:D
 
Chris S
Chris S
6:42 PM
@MDMarra No offense, but he went off the deep end pretty quick... Usually it takes a lot of back-n-forth before it gets to that level.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ChrisS I'mma go with "He's a little bit mentally unbalanced"
 
Joel E Salas
Joel E Salas
@MDMarra The Provoke-And-Edit is a time-honored trolling technique
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@ChrisS Yep, I understand. I'm not offended by you asking
I wouldn't have asked you to suspend someone that I trolled
 
Chris S
Chris S
@voretaq7 I'm waiting in anticipation for his response.
 
pauska
pauska
Cause remember @MDMarra, you really are an ass
5
:-D
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
6:44 PM
I browsed through his old questions to see if I had answered any.
None that I could quickly see. I'll go through better later. Maybe he didn't like me from something earlier.
 
Joel E Salas
Joel E Salas
I still want to see the complete shitshow from start to finish
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
@JoelESalas You'll have to convince a blue to post the deleted content :)
 
Adrian
Adrian
@JoelESalas Apologies for pissing you off this weekend. If you still want to have a drink this week, lemme know.
 
Alex
Alex
Aloha
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@AlexanderJanssen Oahu
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
6:49 PM
first time here, how's the etiquette here? fresstyle as long as it's on-topic?
 
Adrian
Adrian
@voretaq7 I'd sure as F rather be sitting on a beach there than in a basement in Seattle.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@AlexanderJanssen Insult management and get a star.
 
Chris S
Chris S
@JoelESalas Sorry, we're supposed to have some sort of consent from the user before posting delete comments. Or anything found in our "mod-only" sections.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ChrisS @JoelESalas or a bribe. Preferably in a stable currency. Or cookies.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
Thanks for catching that @MDMarra . Poor guy's way over his head, though.
 
pauska
pauska
6:50 PM
@AlexanderJanssen anything (except being a dick + nsfw) is allowed, just don't use us as live support :)
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
@voretaq7 sounds excellent. Just how I like work.
 
Chris S
Chris S
I can say is was colorful and enough to warrant a "first offense" suspension.
Would have been better if he has used spell-check before posting, but close counts.
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
@pauska sounds good!
 
pauska
pauska
@AlexanderJanssen and oh, big props for the tumblrbeast avatar.
Oatmeal is the shit
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
@pauska I LOVE THE OATMEAL
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:51 PM
@ChrisS psel ckeh?
 
Adrian
Adrian
@voretaq7 Took my users YEARS before they believed that I really did accept peanut butter cookies as bribes for out-of-band prioritization of tickets.
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
If I wouldn't be married or straight, I would've married Matthew right away :)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Adrian . . . and now you're in danger of becoming fat? :)
 
Adrian
Adrian
@voretaq7 Fat-er. Instead of getting skinny-er, which is the desired outcome.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Adrian your users could bake BAD cookies...
... but that would be correspondingly less effective as a bribe I suppose.
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
6:52 PM
Welcome to Server Fault chat. Here are some things that might be good for you to know. Talk about stars: get stars. Talk about dumb things your users do: get stars. Talk about dumb things your coworkers do: get stars. Talk about markdown being broken: get stars.

This isn't live support, but as long as you're not a dildo and you've been here a handful of times, we help each other out.
 
Adrian
Adrian
@voretaq7 No, they're sufficiently scared of me that they wouldn't do that.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
***DEMONSTRATE*** that markdown is broken.
Get stars.
2
 
pauska
pauska
rly
wait wut
<p>poop</p>
:|
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@pauska hah. U FAIL AT BREAKING MARKDOWN SIR!
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
@MDMarra excellent... I ain't no Dildo but I know a few morons. I'd be happy to share their moronic actions for great justice and general amusement
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
6:54 PM
Sounds like you'll fit right in.
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
for one... this is kinda neat, but can I actually join this channel via IRC? I find this webchat thing a little... cumbersome
Or am I just challenging the SO overlords?
 
pauska
pauska
nah this is pure devops built chat
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
I think someone write an IRC interface to this, but I don't know if it was ever usable.
I remember there were problems with the OpenID tokens or something
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
I think I'm going survice it...
after all, this chat here feels more comfortable than meta ;)
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
44
Q: IRC access for the chat?

jszWill there be any way of accessing the chat over IRC? As beautiful ajax interfaces are ... IRC is still #1 for chats.

discussion chat irc
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
6:57 PM
@MDMarra All your login cookies are belong to us!
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Looks like the code is on github
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
@MDMarra excellent, thanks.. will have a look
oi wey, the README.md look evil...
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
Yeah. It was from 2010 last I looked and was fragile then.
And chat updates happen frequently enough that I'm sure it's long since broken.
 
Alexander Janssen
Alexander Janssen
sigh
 
Adrian
Adrian
Ok, am I off-base in thinking that this question and accompanying can be re-written into something worth keeping around?
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Q: Tool to compute SHA256 Tree Hash

BenjaminI've started using AWS Glacier, and noticed that it hashes the files using an algorithm called SHA-256 Tree Hash. To my surprise, this algorithm is different from SHA-256, so I can't use the tools I'm used to, to compare hashes and verify file integrity. Do you know a Windows tool, if possible ...

glacier sha-256
 
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