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12:56 PM
@grace @timstone Hi guys, sorry about the delay. Caught up in traveling and local festival activities. Will answer the question in couple of hours.
 
It's alright, take your time
 
 
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3:11 PM
@Fogest There's a EULA for Moderators which we must abide to. Even with the absence of the EULA, if a user has a started a private conversation with me(or vice-versa, from the private messaging tool) I must respect that and it makes no sense to publicise a private concersation.
@GraceNote I'd invite the user to chat/send a Mod message(depending on the severity) and explain that it's not enough to post high-quality content, being nice is expected from participation Stack Exchange site. If the user still persists on being rude then I will have to place the user under the penalty box to cool down
@random WebApps.se is pretty huge in scope and can definitely help a lot of people on the Internet. I've been part of the site since day one, and would love to help in keeping the site running, no matter what
@ThiefMaster No, if I'm done something as serious as to deem a suspension, I must abide by it. Using my Mod privileges to force rollback of a suspension is a serious conflict of interest activity
@jcolebrand It depends - if the user's not registered on the site, then I'd treat it as yet another spam post and spam-flag the post and destroy the user. If the user's registered, then I'd send a Mod Message + suspend the user for astroturing.
@GraceNote I've seen this often on Super User where I'm a Mod. More often than not, I'd clear it by taking action what I deem to be best for the situation - convert to comment if it doesn't answer but there's some information relevant to the question in hand, for instance.Obviously what needs to be done will vary with the situation in hand but yes after about ~8 hours of me taking a first look at it & if the flag still remains & all other Mods have taken a look at it, I'll act on it the best way I can
@voretaq7 I often visit other Stack Exchange sites and perform janitorial activities, web apps is not too different. I've 104 flags marked as helpful, which is decent enough. I've done about 150 edits throughout my stay here, which I admit is a bit low but I'd like to improve that. My comment activity shows that I drop a comment or two if I'm VtC'ing a question
@jcolebrand I think Stack Exchange's escalation model is probably one of the best that I've encountered - some of the trivial ones can be handled by users who're interested in doing the janitorial work(with the added rep prerequisite so that it doesn't get abused) while allowing for Moderators to step in when things spiral out of hand
@phwd Web apps, if asked right(and by done right I mean some prior research on what exactly is the task at hand and what options have been looked at) can work on webapps. Else "best for x" aren't really suited - they seem to work at first but all you end up with is huge list of "I use x" and that's really not constructive
 
4:10 PM
@GraceNote I think few comments should be sufficient in providing them a little nudge in the right direction. I'm inclined to go a step further if they've shown that they can be valuable contributors(via edits/reviews/posts)
 
4:20 PM
@voretaq7 Initially I'd have said "no", but looking at my experience on Super User, I'd say I'd make use of the binding close only on cases where the question's egregiously bad or offtopic, else will wait till the community picks up the votes. Here at webapps we have a unique situation where the number of close voters are low, I hope that improves soon
 
4:51 PM
@TimStone By the by, I leave it to your discretion whether or not you include that Malaise character's answers in the digest.
 
@GraceNote His very random answers? Yeah... :P
Appropriate quote marks implied.
I should have an open window to take care of this digest here shortly, sorry about the delay...at the office and such.
 
Don't worry, Sathya's not completely done so you can wait a few as he finishes up at his pace
 
I shall go grab food or something, then. :)
 
I'm having dinner, gimme an hour or so - sorry to keep ya'll waiting
 
Heh, take your time, @Sathya - you have a life (and apparently, stomach) to attend to.
 
5:38 PM
@GraceNote I can't think of a single contribution - but my overall presence at WebApps, my edits, my comments are a good indication
@GraceNote I'd pull the Mod into a private chat and try to understand the reasoning and try to understand the other Mod's perspective. If I feel that the decision is better off reversed then I will inform the Mod of what I'm about to do
@phwd Being a mod for over a year & half on Super User, I'm pretty familiar with the Mod tools. Generally my days goes like so -> Check Mod flag queue, check suggested edits queue, check review - first question/late answers queue, see if any posts on front page can be improved upon/answered -> back to work. Repeat after an hour or so
@GraceNote Meta participation on [webappse.se] is rather low, IMO. I would like for more community members to participate in Meta. More meta participation is likely to yield a better understanding of how the site/community works. Having said that, despite the low participation, I'd like to get all major decisions/proposals vetted by Meta. Stack Exchange sites are often run by the community, having the community be on the same page as the community leaders is something I feel must happen
@phwd I think the voting(or the lack of it) here on webapps is something which bothers me. Majority of the posts are undervoted. I don't know if it's a selective bias, but getting more votes on your answers is huge motivational boost. TBH, I'm not sure what's the best approach to this - unregistered/hit-n-run users form a chunk of web apps users - if we could convince these users to stay on for a bit longer and participate, that could help a lot
@phwd It's hard to put in exact hour count, I've a Stack Exchange site (often Super User) open every time I have my browser open and my browser's open pretty much whenever I'm seated in front of my laptop. I think an hour or two would be a decent conservative estimate
@GraceNote I'd ask them to cut it out in comments first. If they don't listen then the next step would be to clear out the comments and lock the post to prevent further heated debates. Ask them to relax and take a break
@voretaq7 considering chat requires some rep before users can participate, I think it's imperative that we get users to stick to Web Applications first. From what I've seen, few people like to drop by chat, for various reasons. Having said that, a healthy chat room would be nice thing, would encourage more users to participate, improve their posts and have the word about the site spread out more.
@GraceNote on a low-voting community like Web Applications, reaching those rep levels is a slow process. Right now, most of the things that need Mod attention(totally close a question, delete bad posts) need to be proxied via a Mod, and although I don't have the numbers, I do believe that it puts an lot of weight on the current Web Apps mods. Being a Moderator would help me relieve some of the burden, and hopefully lessen the pressure
@phwd there are very few questions that can be redeemed, at least they were I last saw them. Having them on site creates the broken windows problem, better off deleting them.
@phwd It's my opinion, I would hold on firmly to it - I might not agree with the changes proposed/done but yes I will stick to them
@phwd well, no - there's plenty of other things to do - check suggested edits, review queues, post some answers, go for a walk ;)
@phwd I assume there's already a meta question on the bug, so I'd ask the Community team to take a look at it and perhaps have it looked at by the dev team.
@voretaq7 it's quite natural for a site to evolve and have the definition of what's on topic change - for instance, Web Applications has done about a U-turn on recommend me a site questions, a decision which I agree with. Over at Super User we're in the progress of having tablet questions, once a strictly no-no thing, ready acceptance. As time moves, things change and we should be ready for such changes
@Barry If I'm convinced that there's a genuinely good question, I'd cut out the fluff, rambling, fix it up. Else I'm likely to close it as Not A Real Question
@GraceNote WebApps has been the first site coming out of Area 51, and I hope the site and community continues to grow. My best wishes to other candidates - even if I don't get elected, I will continue in helping out with the site.
also, thanks @GraceNote for conducting the Town Hall Chat & @TimStone for taking the time out in preparing the digest.
 
6:32 PM
@TimStone Sathya is done now unless he's jumping around in the stars list
Thank you for taking the time to respond, @Sathya
Good luck on the election!
 
my pleasure, @GraceNote. Thanks.
 
Yep, about to start. Wish me luck. :P
 
just over midnight, I'll be off to sleep.
 
Yeah, thanks @Sathya!
Diablo III isn't sleep! ;)
G'night
 
6:45 PM
@TimStone lol I wish I could play but I'm pretty tired. Snooze time!
 
 
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8:09 PM
Think that covers it...have to step into a meeting, but will post afterward. Link's in the room on Meta chat if you'd rather expedite the process @GraceNote, but I hopefully won't be long either way.
 
@TimStone Thanks again for your hard work, @TimStone
 

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