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Paulo Cereda

9:08 AM

@egreg :)

Paulo Cereda

12:24 PM

Coming Home for Christmas | Heathrow Airport

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Paulo Cereda

12:53 PM

How does one pronounce Heathrow?

egreg

@PauloCereda Fiumicino

Paulo Cereda

@egreg I see what you did there. :)

It's like Viracopos. :)

yo'

@PauloCereda he-throw

Paulo Cereda

@yo' ooh thanks!

@egreg:

Viracopos International Airport

Viracopos/Campinas International Airport (IATA: VCP, ICAO: SBKP) (sometimes referred to as São Paulo/Campinas) is an international airport serving Campinas, São Paulo, Brazil. On 6 January 1987, the airport name was officially normalized to its present form. It is named after the neighborhood where it is located. It is operated by Aeroportos Brasil Viracopos. == History == The IATA airport code of Viracopos is VCP and the specific city code of Campinas is CPQ. Sometimes both codes are used as one although there is a distinction between them in airline reservation systems: VCP, together with CGH...

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda Throatwobbler Mangrove.

Paulo Cereda

12:57 PM

@DavidCarlisle Touchè.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda wrong sort of twiddly thing

egreg

@PauloCereda Or “Marco Polo”. By the way, the landing in Venice is usually spectacular; if you happen to land there, be careful to choose a seat in the right aisle.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I know about this language stuff

@PauloCereda or perhaps more heath-row

Paulo Cereda

@egreg cool, I will try next time! When arriving in Barcelona from Madrid, I was lucky to choose a seat in the right side of the plane. The view was breathtaking!

@DavidCarlisle I need to get ready for the next UK-TUG meeting. :)

David Carlisle

1:03 PM

@PauloCereda we could have it in São Paulo

egreg

@PauloCereda When I first landed in Catania, I had a seat in the right aisle, which is not the best, in normal conditions, because the plane keeps Mt. Etna on its left. However, that particular day, the landing was from the sea (at the East), so the plane made a turn over the sea and I could have the mountain and the town in front of me.

Something like this:

David Carlisle

@egreg rubbish view. @PauloCereda what you want is a typical view coming into Heathrow:

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@egreg How awesome!

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Yes, nothing comparable to this

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooooh

egreg

1:08 PM

David Carlisle

@egreg same as the one above, all those bright garish blues and purples, what you want is dignified, restrained, grey

egreg

@PauloCereda The bell tower similar to the biggest one (San Marco) is the island of San Giorgio (the church is by Palladio); behind it you see another small island, called San Servolo, where we organized a conference a few years ago.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg It looks so marvelous!

egreg

@PauloCereda The S. Servolo monastery was turned into a psychiatric hospital; a couple decades ago the hospital was closed and restored, now it hosts conferences and a museum. Behind it you see the Lido.

yo'

1:26 PM

@egreg TTD come true!

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Re. beamer and bugs, reminds me I must finish the move from BitBucket to GitHub

yo'

1:53 PM

this hurts!

    \scalebox{0.67}{
    \begin{tabular}{

Paulo Cereda

@yo' OH NO

yo'

@PauloCereda I don't actually understand the reason as the table fits in unscaled :-/

David Carlisle

@yo' yes it should clearly be .66666666666667 we need more precision.

@JosephWright meanwhile I got further into luatex direction commands:-)

yo'

2:15 PM

author I love you! \noalign{\smallskip}\noalign{\hrule height 1.1pt}

egreg

3:46 PM

@PauloCereda In front of the train station you see the church of “gli Scalzi”; behind it you can spot the church of “Santa Maria Gloriosa dei Frari, the biggest gothic church in Venice, where Tiziano and Canova are buried; it has a great altar piece by Tiziano. The great dome behind is the “Madonna della Salute”.

daleif

4:02 PM

@yo' I've started to see so many of these. My reply is mostly the Kate Stark Nope gif (imgur.com/gallery/f6GRLxH),

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Awesome!

egreg

@PauloCereda This is Tiziano's Assumption

yo'

@daleif :D

Paulo Cereda

@egreg oooh

egreg

@PauloCereda It's a very impressive picture by a master of all times.

Paulo Cereda

4:09 PM

@egreg Amazing!

Ulrike Fischer

@egreg And this was the view from our terrace on our holiday in 2010. And we were in all the churches. sigh I want to go back ...

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh

egreg

@UlrikeFischer The fish market!

Paulo Cereda

@daleif: can I suggest this one? imgur.com/a/0sjUy

egreg

@UlrikeFischer All the churches in Venice? It would take a few months!

daleif

4:13 PM

@PauloCereda Kate Stark has another GIF from LRRs feed dump series, it is just called "vomit vomit vomit", just a bit hard to search for, the nope one is more famous. She even has it mentioned on her homepage.

Ulrike Fischer

@egreg Ok. perhaps we missed a few ;-). But we were really in quite a lot. And we had two weeks (and two weeks some years ago too).

Paulo Cereda

@daleif :)

Paulo Cereda

5:14 PM

@JosephWright: F25 news: for the first time, I tried dist-upgrade. It went smoothly, and the system looks very stable.

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz One concerning forum software golatex.de/…

yo'

5:43 PM

can I change the space penalty in a part of a paragraph?

Paulo Cereda

I was reading the comment section of a 9gag post. Suddenly, found "A monkey could do a cs phd.".

Johannes_B

@PauloCereda Surprise

:-p

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes_B YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

Johannes_B

@PauloCereda <3

Paulo Cereda

Gema, you have no power on me! bwawawawawawawawa

@Johannes_B <3

Johannes_B

5:54 PM

@PauloCereda :-D

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes_B I need to send a couple of emails. :)

Johannes_B

@PauloCereda :-D I linked a picture to a few facebook friends themetapicture.com/media/funny-rick-roll-prank.jpg

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes_B oooh

Friends, which email app do you use, besides Gmail, in your phones?

yo'

@PauloCereda none? :D

Paulo Cereda

@yo' WhatsApp generation. :)

cfr

6:48 PM

@JosephWright I'm trying to publish my modified version of UK TUG's training course. (Finally.) The licence says that I need to explain the changes I've made, but how much detail is required? Right now, I've got a README with the following content:

LaTeX I
=======

LaTeX I is a workshop provided by Cardiff University's Doctoral Academy
(previously the University Graduate College). The materials used for the
workshop ['this project'] are provided here. These are a modified
version of materials produced by UK TUG volunteers ['original project']
for a course provided for beginning LaTeX users. The materials were
adapted for LaTeX I by Clea F. Rees.

Both the original work and modifications are
licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported

Paulo Cereda

@cfr Yay!

cfr

Do I need to detail every change? If so, is it acceptable to just include a diff of the 2 versions?! @JosephWright

@PauloCereda Cwac!

@cfr Quack!

@PauloCereda <3

@cfr <3

6:51 PM

@PauloCereda I hate trying to figure out what CC licences require!

Paulo Cereda

@cfr Does this work? creativecommons.org/choose

Oh wait, this one is for picking licenses...

cfr

@PauloCereda I know the licence. That bit is fine. I'm just not sure how much information about changes is required in order for me to be allowed to make my version public on OverLeaf, which is what I'm hoping to do.

Paulo Cereda

@cfr Oh I see.

@cfr Maybe a summary? Like a bullet list?

cfr

@PauloCereda That might be best. Although there is the issue of remembering everything. I suppose if I make it vague enough, it should cover it ;).

Paulo Cereda

@cfr ooh sounds like a good plan. :)

yo'

6:59 PM

@cfr that's what I would do (be vague), but @JosephWright seems to have just popped in, so he might reply himself :-)

Joseph Wright

@cfr We are happy to see the stuff used: just 'based on the UK-TUG course' will do us

Paulo Cereda

@cfr: weren't ducks harmed in the making of this training course, were they?

Joseph Wright

@cfr We put a license on it so it was clear that it's usable

cfr

@PauloCereda Neither ducks or hedgehogs were harmed in the modification of this training course. I can't speak for the original production. @JosephWright would be the person to ask.

Paulo Cereda

@cfr yay! Ducks are safe!

yo'

7:07 PM

@cfr well, as long as nobody's eaten foie gras while making it .... :-)

cfr

@JosephWright I have this:

LaTeX I
=======

LaTeX I is a workshop provided by Cardiff University's Doctoral Academy
(previously the University Graduate College). The materials used for the
workshop ['this project'] are provided here. These are a modified
version of materials produced by UK TUG volunteers ['original project']
for a course provided for beginning LaTeX users. The materials were
adapted for LaTeX I by Clea F. Rees.

Both the original work and modifications are
licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported

Paulo Cereda

@cfr, @yo': I have F25 in my laptop. Fantastic release.

yo'

@PauloCereda I really should backup everything and update. Maybe over the Xmas

Joseph Wright

@cfr All fine: really just a one-liner would be fine ;)

Paulo Cereda

@yo' Do you have F24?

cfr

7:09 PM

@PauloCereda Oh, dear! That means I'll have to upgrade my mother's version as she's got v23. I guess v24 is still supported, so my work box should be OK.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright not my fault, blame the UK-TUG blokes.

yo'

@PauloCereda don't ask what I have, I'm very incompetent in this

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Mainly Nicola!

Mistakes all mine, of course

Paulo Cereda

@cfr Yes! F23 will reach EOL (end of life). Fedora always keep one version behind as maintained. But from F24 on, the system upgrade seems very stable and smooth. I tried a system upgrade from F24 and the entire infrastructure was ported to F25. So I believe the future updates will be less traumatic.

@cfr Mum's PC here has F23 too. :) Actually, it was Chapeau 23, which is based on Fedora. Nothing stellar, it just has a couple of packages out of the box.

@yo' <3

This is a nice way of finding:

[paulo@cambridge ~] $ cat /etc/os-release | grep "VERSION_ID"
VERSION_ID=24

@cfr: I can't remember if I told you, but my development laptop is named cardiff. :)

cfr

@PauloCereda I knew you named something cardiff, but not what ;).

yo'

7:19 PM

@cfr @Paulo I'm waiting for prague :-(

Paulo Cereda

@cfr :)

@yo' oooh will do.

yo'

@PauloCereda you could name your next EP this way, it's a computer of its kind, too :-)

cfr

@JosephWright @PauloCereda Thanks. I've submitted it to OverLeaf's gallery. The project link is overleaf.com/read/yhcyjnnfmbhk in case anybody wants to look. It is a bit annoying to produce the different versions on OverLeaf as you have to change the main file each time. But I don't think there is another way to do it. I tried to figure out git to put it on GitHub but gave up :(.

Joseph Wright

@cfr Anything I should pull back into the original?

cfr

@yo' @PauloCereda It should really be caerdydd, of course :-).

yo'

7:27 PM

@cfr what?! Ah that's the Welsh name of your capital, not of Prague :D

cfr

@JosephWright Not sure. I found I needed to make changes to get A4 and also the tutors' notes got cut off if I printed them, so I've got rid of fullpage and added geometry. That's the main thing I remember being problematic (and I've only just got around to changing it). The rest is mostly changes for local circumstances: e.g. Babel + geometry but not BibTeX. thebibliography is covered, but nobody will be interested. I added a little bit on troubleshooting at the end. O/w mostly appearance.

@JosephWright If will also publish the source for LaTeX II. This year that's being split into 4 workshops. So I is now 6 hours and the others are 2 hours each for a total of 14, rather than two 7 hour workshops. I hope this works better. However, I haven't yet worked on turning II into the 4 parts, so that's not done yet. Some UK TUG stuff is in those, too, but not as much as for I. Custom macros etc. is one session; Biblatex another; Beamer another. The fourth is more open-ended right now.

@JosephWright May I suggest linking to the GitHub project from the UK TUG training page? Also, you could, if you wished, add that Cardiff University offers these courses but they are not available to the public. LaTeX is popular here this year. I've been asked to run a second instance of LaTeX I and chemistry want some kind of course, although they don't want to pay much or have it take too long ;).

Joseph Wright

@cfr I'll look at it: link for your course?

@cfr I'll have to try to get invited to talk in Cardiff (I do know someone there in chemistry) :)

cfr

@JosephWright overleaf.com/read/yhcyjnnfmbhk (as above ;)) or do you mean on the university site?

@JosephWright We wouldn't want to make finding it too easy ;). It is on page 22 of the PDF programme at ugc.subsite.cf.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/….

@JosephWright They used to list the tutor, but seem to have imposed anonymity this year.

Joseph Wright

8:01 PM

@cfr Oh, PPD or similar: you allow external people to come along?

Johannes_B

9:09 PM

@StefanKottwitz Dunno if i asked that before, but ... rais has been an quite active member for a while, he is a moderator on mrunix and ... I think promoting Rainer to be a moderator would be very good idea.

cfr

10:02 PM

@JosephWright No. But I noticed other places were listed who don't. Also, if anybody contacted them about it, they would hopefully get directed to me. I don't quite know what I could do, but we do offer other courses to the public so if people were interested, I would have a go at persuading the people just down the corridor from me, who organise that kind of thing. It is a shame, from this point of view, that there is no MS certification programme ;). (But not from any other point of view.)

@JosephWright Actually, they don't even allow undergraduates to come.

Alan Munn

10:37 PM

@JosephWright I really think this is going to get closed for no good reason. tex.stackexchange.com/q/340662/2693

Stefan Kottwitz

@Johannes_B You are right, and I thought the same. Thank you for your suggestion!

@cfr Nice! At the end, there's a small typo in www.latex-community.org (four times w) you can omit the whole www

Alan Munn

@barbarabeeton Does the AMS maintain a list of reliable copy-editing services for math? If so, that might be a partial answer to this question.

hhh

11:04 PM

I thought this to be a simple subfigure side-by-side thing here but for some reason, I cannot get the two Tikz pictures side-by-side, ideas?

This is the code after the macro declarations etc:

\begin{document}

\begin{figure}
\centering
\begin{subfigure}{0.4\textwidth}
\firstPic
\caption{Frist picture}
\end{subfigure}

\begin{subfigure}{0.4\textwidth}
\secondPic
\caption{Second picture}
\end{subfigure}

\caption{MAIN caption}
\end{figure}

\end{document}

I think the two subfigures should go side-by-side?

Torbjørn T.

@hhh Not when you have a paragraph break between them (the empty line).

Werner

@hhh ...moreover, each image is very wide compared to the document geometry. Add \usepackage{showframe} to your preamble and see what real estate you have to work with.

hhh

What does this infer? To scale the piecharts? Why are they going over one other?

Success! @TorbjørnT. Thank you for helping :)

Alan Munn

11:26 PM

@Werner @R.Schumacher Since you were two of the close voters on this could you perhaps reply to my comment on why?

Werner

@AlanMunn I voted to Leave Open the question.

Alan Munn

@Werner Oops, sorry, so you did. Thanks. :)

cfr

11:43 PM

@StefanKottwitz Thanks. Too late for the printed handouts, but I'll change it on the slides.

@StefanKottwitz I keep waiting for somebody to tell me I shouldn't use blue, but I happen to like it. (It is not a colour in our institutional branding ... but I've never been keen on red ...)

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