The Nineteenth Byte

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

12:02 AM

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_presidential_campaign,_1980 > slogan

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Q: How much will this cost?

Given N items (0 < N <= 50) with prices P0 ... PN-1 and given amounts of each item A0 ... AN-1, determine how much the total cost will be. Examples N: 2 P0: 2 P1: 3 A0: 1 A1: 4 Result: 14 N: 5 P0: 2 P1: 7 P2: 5 P3: 1 P4: 9 A0: 1 A1: 2 A2: 3 A3: 2 A4: 3 Result: 60 Remember, this is code-golf, ...

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Q: Am I old enough?

It is currently December 31, 2015, 11:59:00pm, and you must be at least 1324900 seconds old to be able to go to the New Year Celebration. Given the year, month, day, hour, minute, and second of your birth, determine if you are old enough to go. Notes: Assume that you are in the same timezone. ...

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ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@El'endiaStarman IDK, you'd have to account for all the internal organs

quartata

No they're all closed

except for the digestive system

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@quartata What if you, say, get a nosebleed?

(Also, don't forget the respiratory system)

quartata

That doesn't have an exit

ASCII-only

12:16 AM

@quartata Ear canal?

quartata

Oh, right. I guess it's 3 then.

I'm not very good at anatomy I guess

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@quartata Nosebleed ↔ bloodstream ↔ heart ↔ lungs ↔ nose/mouth?

What about the empty space between all of the atom nuclei and their electrons?

quartata

Now that's just ridiculous

@Doorknob I made it so that supplements only give you 100 nutrition for hunger purposes but add 1000 to the appropriate nutrition category. I can't decide if that's too little though

It's only slightly more than a food ration

The benefit was supposed to be that they count as being vegan regardless of whether it's for protein or starch or veggies

Lynn

Hum. I posted a 2-byte Jelly answer to a question, and realized I could post a 1-byte Actually answer instead. I've posted both now, and it feels... silly

quartata

But I'm also trying to make it so that people who are having trouble with nutrition can have a quick fix for a category

Lynn

12:25 AM

Maybe I should have edited the Jelly answer to be Actually instead, but wouldn't that be weird?

zyabin101

@Lynn That is weird, because the commit history will contain both.

And some might say that the Jelly answer had to be there.

Don't worry, both have votes now (^^)

Lynn

Does anyone know any esolangs where the empty program computes the dot product of two input vectors, asking for a friend

quartata

Uhhhh

Probably not

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

hya I just made python get a fatal stack overflow - no exception

quartata

But I can make that happen ;)

Lynn

12:29 AM

(I'm not being very serious~)

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

>>> def b():
...     while True:
...         try:
...            b()
...         except RecursionError:
...            b()

zyabin101

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Core dumped.

quartata

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC This surprises you... because?

Lynn

1. Pick your favorite golf language 2. Make 256 spin-offs that each prefix your favorite byte

zyabin101

Mmm, that food really hit the spot! # } √#{{

quartata

12:31 AM

I think most languages have something like that. Java doesn't let you catch stack overflows but you can use finally

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@quartata ...because... I don't know?

zyabin101

@Lynn Aww nope ;v;

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

in the middle of "line four... line four..." is "line 3"

Magnet + your computer = you know what

How well would a challenge on getting a core dump in as little as possile do?

firefox developer edition is awwwwesome

and I usually use chrome

(w/ test pilot)

quartata

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Unless you have an SSD

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@quartata oh... facepalm

RAM though

El'endia Starman

12:42 AM

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC: Uh, mind being a little less random and scatterbrained?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@El'endiaStarman HARD WORD USAGE DETECTED

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat Do you know these gentleman?

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1:05 AM

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Q: Who will win the election?

Currently, Clinton has a 43% chance of winning, while Trump has a 40% chance. Your task is to write a program or function that has a 43% chance of printing Clinton, a 40% chance of printing Trump, and a 17% chance of printing Other. Here's the catch: You may not use any of the following in your ...

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Q: A program that prints another program, which prints the same program

Your task is to write a program, which when run, produces a different program that when run, prints the program that you started with. For example, a program abc that prints xyz that prints abc is one such valid program. Remember, this is code-golf, so the code with the smallest number of bytes ...

code-golf

quartata

> Note that the restricted-source tag should be used with caution -- adding restricted-source to an otherwise trivial challenge does not necessarily make it interesting. Generally, a restricted-source challenge should be a task of moderate complexity along with a clear, simple and relevant restriction.

People don't read tag wikis I guess

Jonathan Allan

LOL question flood

have any been sandboxed?

El'endia Starman

@JonathanAllan I doubt it.

Jonathan Allan

yeah was rhetorical, sorry

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@MartinEnder Just curious, do you consider the various Mathematica #0 quines to be cheating?

ETHproductions

1:19 AM

Why does that user just keep posting questions? Has he been directed to the sandbox yet?

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Conor O'Brien

@ETHproductions which user? Oliver Ni?

ETHproductions

Of his last 10 questions (all posted in the last 9 days), 5 are duplicate, 1 is on hold, 3 more have negative score

@ConorO'Brien yeah

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

In case you're not aware of this, the system issues automatic question bans if too many of your questions are downvoted, closed and/or deleted, and these bans cannot be lifted by moderators. Even for experienced challenge writers, it's usually a good idea to go through the sandbox, where other members of the community can help identifying dupe targets, iron out the details, and generally provide feedback before "going live". — Dennis ♦ Sep 25 at 22:03

ETHproductions

OK, good

Downgoat

1:23 AM

@DJMcMayhem they are gentlegoats >:|

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

No other redirections, though

ETHproductions

Hey @Downgoat, now that we figured out the proxy classes, I wrote some new test code:

class QuantumArray extends Array {
  constructor(...args) {
    super(...args)

    return new Proxy(this, {
      get: function (target, name) {
          if (typeof name === 'string' && /^-?(\d+\.\d*|\.\d+)$/.test(name))
              return target[(name | 0) + (Math.random() < name % 1)];
          return target[name];
      }
    });
  }
}

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

...wat

(sorry, my bot uses a SendKeys exploit which uses the active window)

Conor O'Brien

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ you made it in VBS?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@ConorO'Brien C# + WinForms

Conor O'Brien

1:25 AM

oh. close enough

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

To prefill Console.Read values

As I said, quite exploit-y

ETHproductions

QuantumArray can be used like so:

> var a = new QuantumArray(0, 1)
> a[0.2]
< 0
> a[0.2]
< 0
> a[0.2]
< 1

Conor O'Brien

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ there is a python chat api y'know

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@ETHproductions So is it like a superposition?

ETHproductions

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Yep

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

1:26 AM

@ConorO'Brien No, it's just that the Firefox chat window happened to be active at the time

ETHproductions

Or I could modify it so that decimal indices return the items on either side, like in Jelly

Conor O'Brien

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ I see

ETHproductions

But then it would be JellyArray instead of QuantumArray

Random fact: Dennis did not hit the rep cap today (nor did any other user)

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@ETHproductions We can still fix that :p

ETHproductions

Sorry, I meant yesterday :P

I keep forgetting it's after UTC midnight, it's 9:36 PM here in UTC-4

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1:42 AM

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Q: What language is this? (Cops' thread)

This is the cops' thread. For the robbers' thread, click here. In this game of cops-and-robbers, each cop will write a simple program to give a single output. They will then make public two things about their program: The code The output Then, the robbers must analyze the source code to fi...

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Q: What language is this? (Robbers' thread)

This is the cops' thread. For the robbers' thread, click here. This is the robbers' thread for the challenge What language is this? (Cops' thread). As a robber, you will be trying to figure out what language each submission is written in. You have one attempt at cracking each submission. You...

cops-and-robbers

ETHproductions

OMG, he posted more?

Conor O'Brien

we can't let anyone know >_>

I think the challenge is a great idea, but it's unfortunately not original!

ETHproductions

@ConorO'Brien I was responding to your original comment, btw :P

Conor O'Brien

@ETHproductions yes I saw:P

ETHproductions

fail

He's received 18 downvotes in the last hour

El'endia Starman

1:48 AM

@ETHproductions I hope that's enough to for SE to question-block him (temporarily).

Conor O'Brien

I wish he'd just come in here/use the sandbox

El'endia Starman

Moreover, many of your questions are such blatant duplicates that I must conclude that you are either not running even the most basic search before posting, or are intentionally copying existing question ideas hoping that nobody will notice. — xnor 5 mins ago

The latter possibility makes this a lot more sinister.

Conor O'Brien

.o.

ETHproductions

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Q: Water-Bucket problem

This challenge is to calculate how to measure 4 liters of water with just two unevenly sized buckets, one of 3 liters and another of 5 liters, in minimum number of steps. To extend and generalize this, write a program to evaluate the minimum number of steps to measure “X” liters of water, with “Y...

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xnor

I'm past the point where I'd like this user to use the Sandbox. Does anyone expect they will produce quality challenges even with help? I'd rather they just leave.

ETHproductions

1:53 AM

How'd they get up to nearly 2k rep though?

El'endia Starman

@ETHproductions One highly upvoted answer on a highly upvoted question (this).

ETHproductions

ah

El'endia Starman

Not actually a pop-con, though it feels like it.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

xkcd.com/1350/#p:2ed958de-badf-11e3-8001-002590d77bdd

Inception DUNNNNN

ETHproductions

Suggested line: "Infinitely recursing dreams! Get them at 50% off while they last!"

Conor O'Brien

2:11 AM

Oh, mine was selling the matrix

quartata

Considering that sandboxed question was a week before Oliver's I am having a really hard time believing he posted it unknowingly

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@ETHproductions Please no, I don't want any more branches to crawl next month

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:43 AM

Can I get more dupe votes here? It's a pretty clear dupe.

El'endia Starman

2:58 AM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ The hammer has been cast.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

thanks

El'endia Starman

Incidentally, @Dennis, any plans on suspending this user? This seems like a perfect match for "consistently low-quality questions over time", even though "over time" here is basically a few hours.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

You know, I wonder how many thousands of requests I can make to c0.xkcd.com before someone gets mad at me

I helpfully provided my email address in the User-Agent field

quartata

I slurped up all the comics and got no rate limiting or anything

Multiple times actually

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

True, but I'm doing that n times on one of eight load-balancing servers

quartata

3:06 AM

...ya know though that the Lorenz pictures are all fixed right

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Mostly back-to-back

@quartata ?

quartata

There's a set of them that are used check the wiki

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

I'm taking all the texts

@quartata Yeah, I was thinking of crawling for any images not on the wiki after this

quartata

Right. I'm saying that because of that it would be trivial to create masks based on them and isolate the text then use OCR

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

You see, I'm writing a bot to write its transcript page

quartata

3:08 AM

Well not trivial. But better than this.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@quartata The text is just plaintext, no OCR is required

quartata

Hell no need for OCR.

ninjad

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

I have to capitalize the text/recognize who is speaking/write descriptions of the image patterns

Also, Firefox is slow because I have ~ n / 8 Lorenz tabs open because I can't close tabs from the command line

quartata

You don't need the descriptions of the image patterns since they're all the same and whoever is speaking in a panel is fixed

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@quartata The same image can mean different things in different contexts so I have to do it per image group, and some images have more than one image so I have to do it per panel

quartata

3:12 AM

all you need to do is search each panel for characters separate them then compare the panel to the known patterns no? i don't see how context affects anything

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Take the generic spaceship flying image as an example

Or the several boomerang images

quartata

Sincr the panels are generated there has to be a deterministic pattern to the layout

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

There is, but the panels have many combinations

quartata

If the problem is splitting it up into panels

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

See ^^

That's my current issue

quartata

3:14 AM

I still don't see why you need context. The panels are designed to transition naturally into each other all you need are fixed descriptions for the visual

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

At my current rate, this project will take several days

@quartata That's what I'm doing

The point is, there's loads of panels

Although mostly loads of texts

Loads and loads of texts

quartata

You can do that later all you need are tokens representing each for now

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

???

quartata

The texts can be retrieved automatically is what I am trying to say

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

I'm doing all of it at once

Why not?

But yeah, I need to capitalize the texts mostly manually

quartata

3:16 AM

I thought you were saying you were analyzing the comics manually

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

No, it's mostly automatic

> I have to capitalize the text/recognize who is speaking/write descriptions of the image patterns

And the capitalization is mostly guessed by a few regexes already

quartata

My entire point is that you can retrieve the text and what panel it is with image manipulations. Who is speaking in each is fixed. The image descriptions can be done after you have the data for the panel types

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

But why do I need to do them separately?

(Although I have been thinking about per-image-group speakers, it would have to use loads of crazy metadata though)

Oh well, I gtg to bed

Luis Mendo

3:31 AM

Dennis

I think I'd rather vote for Astley than for Hillary or Trump.

El'endia Starman

I think almost everyone here would.

DLosc

No governing experience, -1

(Of course, that applies to one of the actual candidates too...)

DJMcMayhem

6:30 AM

Woah. I've never had a bounty on a challenge of mine before

DLosc

@MartinEnder You can add Ouroboros (2015) to your list of 2D languages. I haven't gotten around to making an Esolangs entry yet.

Zwei

I wonder how we ended up with these two candidates despite the fact that nobody I know actualy originally liked any of them. Maybe there's a community of people somewhere else in the U.S. or on the internet that is filled to the brim with supporters of these candidates.

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Q: Problem on how to handle fto cloud server with Openfire

I'm a curious java/ android programmer self taught by reading and studying past questions and answers on stack and any where else.. I've an issue and would pls love some one to help me,I've gone everywhere but no-solution I am trying to make a chat application for an andriod phone to help c...

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Zwei

I don't think I have the rep to do close voting or anything but I think that should be in stackoverflow

DJMcMayhem

6:48 AM

@Zwei it definitely doesn't belong here, but it would be closed in a heartbeat on SO also

Zwei

yeah, I agree

it's certainly not a well-formed question. I have a hard time telling what it's asking, but that's probably because I don't know anything about cloudflare

I have a hard time doing non-trivial code golfing challenges and haven't had any good ideas for challenges, so my rep is still low

Zwei

7:30 AM

I'm having a bit of trouble with CJam's % operator when using it to try to split

ugh, I just realized that the way it worked was misleading

Sp3000

Needs to be an array or char or you'll just get every nth element, yeah

Zwei

not what I was talking about

I thought "somestring""aeiou"% would split on vowels

but it only splits on the entire substring aeiou

Sp3000

Oh right, yeah... dunno if there's a good way to split on vowels tbh

Zwei

I figured that doing that would be a clever way to count the number of vowel clusters for the proguzzle & colf challenge

Sp3000

Oh, if you're just counting the number of vowel clusters, there might be an easier way than splitting...

Rephrase: since there's no easy way to split by vowels in CJam, other approaches are probably shorter, is what I meant

Zwei

7:42 AM

yeah

also splitting by vowels would fail in thee edge case where there are vowels at both the beginning and end of the word

Qwerp-Derp

7:56 AM

Allo!

betseg

Google's new app

orlp

8:56 AM

So maybe we need to talk about the flurry of questions posted by Oliver Ni that all got negative feedback or closed?

it seems a bit excessive

7 in a row over the course of 3 hours

Sp3000

There was a short discussion about it not too far up, but yeah it is a bit excessive

betseg

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A: We're no strangers to code golf, you know the rules, and so do I

I'm 4 years late, but I don't care. 8 bytes (Python) This is a small snippet to print the lyrics, assumed to be stored in a variable called l: print(l)

wat

Beta Decay

9:14 AM

Wow, adding functions to Fourier was the best thing I could have done for kolmo challenges... It actually has a chance :D

orlp

@Dennis what is the shortest program in C that's shorter than it's shortest equivalent in Jelly?

betseg

9:30 AM

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