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12:00 AM
I mean I have used the two corners constraints but now I look at it and I really don't see where to go
(don't answer if it give too much information)
 
user61230
12:43 AM
@Lordofdark I'm in the same position.
 
user61230
I've been fiddling with it, but I don't see how the problem could be further constrained.
 
I should be sleeping but I do some random trials
I have found one choice that forces a lot of other decisions
 
user61230
I'm mucking around, too, trying to see if there's any one square that can has to be a certain way.
 
user61230
Which one are you working on?
 
But all my reasoning does not take into account that the ending is in a wall :(
red choice seems to force a lot of other choices
 
user61230
12:49 AM
Ah, important note, it's rotated, not reflected.
 
Yes I know :)
 
user61230
oh wait, I see what you mean
 
these are all the implied moves if I did not make any mistake
And still without thinking about the ending, so it might be very wrong
 
1:04 AM
A guess - the end will be in one of the two middle walls (note change of wording from door to exit) and most likely one of the ends, then it can easily be a staircase :)
 
user61230
There's another bound square. The one to the right of the top barrier has to be straight.
 
user61230
At least given the way it's drawn, I'm multitasking working through it.
 
user61230
Wondering, @Lord, why do you have square 5E turning? (counting 1A as the upper right black square)
 
5E is not turning with this convention
 
user61230
The last part of the leg of the L in the middle?
 
1:17 AM
I don't remember let me check
arf here is my mistake I think :(
time to go to bed
Okso I have a path I need to check if it is OK
If it works I can call it a huge f**** luck
 
user61230
Oh, huh, sweet!
 
user61230
I'm still thinking about a logically deducible path, but I'm not sure one exists. The logic rules here are odd.
 
1:33 AM
Just having a look myself, and I don't see any logically deducible steps after LoDs first image...
 
Well I have made my first random move + my lucky mistake + one other random move and that brought me very close to the end
 
The rule is just a "turn" in one and a "straight" in it's mirror, yeah? Says nothing about which specific sides it needs to enter/exit from...
 
user61230
Yeah, which is what makes it hard. I think LoD found one of the, if not the only, move that offers appreciable deductive steps.
 
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A: The Collapse of Memory

Lord of darkA possible path : Proof that it works : (S means straight and T means turn ) I don't really know how I've find it, mostly trying some random paths + a incredible luck.

so this is my "solution"
I think it's correct but not 100% sure because it's almost 4am here
 
1:40 AM
:)
It's only midday here, but I still misread the rule "You must step on every tile in a region" and assumed you needed to go through every tile.
 
and it's not satisfying because there is 2 possible way out :/
 
hmm... going to try a pot luck approach and see if i can find an alternate version
 
I think there are multiple solutions, at least here I can choose some other path in the white squares
May be you are right and the rule is "walk everywhere"
 
I don't think so, because he's used the term "region" to mean the coloured sections, not the white parts
 
Good luck with that !
Bye all !
 
1:49 AM
night
 
 
3 hours later…
4:40 AM
@Lordofdark I'm writing a solver to (hopefully) find any other solutions
 
 
2 hours later…
6:55 AM
And he starts at 6 am with it :D
@Bonjovi♦ Congrats on your election
 
unfortunately it's not being smart enough in it's pruning and is taking forever in its current state :(
 
Good one on the illiterates
 
:p
they deserve it ^^
think we can all agree illiterism (?) is perfectly acceptable :p
 
How would you insult an illiterate over the internet?
 
shout
there's bound to be some with text to speech... and they really should try harder :)
 
7:06 AM
Wow ok, is it really considered a disease? I mean, are they literally not able to learn reading?
 
I dunno, I guess there could be severe dyslexia...
 
 
3 hours later…
10:03 AM
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Q: What kind of bus?

Jason CemraWhat kind of bus has a driver, but doesn't drive? Hint: Hint:

ahah a new bus riddle
 
 
1 hour later…
11:04 AM
nit picked :p
 
11:39 AM
I've been building up a maze with twin knights
I've tried to build the maze in 2 different ways.
- start with no walls at all, and progressively restrain the player so there can be 1 and only 1 correct path
- start with all the walls, except the correct path, and progressively add red herrings by removing walls.
Either way, it is very time consuming
 
12:09 PM
Are you doing this by hand or computer ?
 
12:21 PM
I'm editing the maze by mouse, no program involved
except paint
It is likely that I'll put a
But if it turns out in the end that it's way too easy to solve, and/or that there's way too many possibilities to finish the maze, I'll refrain from posting.
 
So you are doing something like this :
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Q: The Knight and the Maze

hexominoShown below is a grid of blue and yellow squares with a knight in the upper left hand corner and green square in the lower right hand corner. Your task is to guide the knight from its starting position to the green square using regulation chess knight moves. The knight may only visit yellow sq...

but with 2 knights ?
 
yes, there will be more rules about them. the movements will be precisely defined
I always loved this kind of puzzles on a grid.
 
ok !
If rules are not too hard you could try to create it from programming
 
I guess so, this way I would go really far on the red herrings
 
user image
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someone is really unhappy with the results :p
 
12:38 PM
I suspect The Great Duck :]
 
hehe
 
Not to be mean towards him, I'm sure he can become a respectable member later on
 
yeah...he just needs some experience here.
Congrats @deu
 
Thanks! c:
 
Can moderators give their mates some pizza? Coz I wanna party :D
 
12:44 PM
btw, kudos, you totally deserve that diamond.
 
Thank you!
 
1:09 PM
Yeah, pizza please Lee Jones :)
...reference:
 
1:25 PM
0
Q: Hide a puzzle in Puzzling Stack Exchange

Lord of darkI was browsing Gaming Stack Exchange (Arqade) when I realise that the "ask question" button is animated : when you hoover it there is a laser animation. This made me think "We should do something similar with Puzzling and hide a puzzle !" So I've created this meta post to discuss about the pos...

What do you guys think about hiding a puzzle in the Puzzling.SE site ?
 
I think that's a good idea - we'd have to have the SE Overlords be willing to change the site design, though.
 
Yeah, so we have to create a really well build puzzle (and easy to implement for them)
As a mod do you have any power to edit some page such as the help center ?
 
I don't think so, but I'll check
I can add text on the main help center page, but I cannot change any of the actual pages.
I was more imagining something with the background though - those symbols would be a perfect place to hide a puzzle, for instance.
We wouldn't want it to be too intrusive
 
1:43 PM
May be we could use the community ad once we have it to display an "encrypted message" as a starting point/instruction of the puzzle
 
Yeah, I've thought of making a community ad with a puzzle hidden in it.
 
2:02 PM
The possible ways to hide something :
- Add a very very not intrusive element to the background
- Community ads
- Display a message / image when you hoover a object (like the site logo)
- Hide it in a tag / meta-tag (created only for this)
- Add a special page like http://puzzling.stackexchange.com/mystery

Possibilites I don't like :
- Hide in comment (too unreliable)
- Hide in chat (seems hard to find / unreliable)
- Hide in questions (can be edited / interfer too much with the content)
- Hide it the profil page of somebody ( too personnal -> we need it to belong to the site)
 
Community ads are fleeting, hovertext would be too obvious, and using a tag is not going to happen.
 
And the page not found logo ?
 
That sounds fine to me! We'd have to get the designers to change it though.
 
Stackoverflow has a polyglote as page not found logo : stackoverflow.com/mystery
 
Right, but last time we tried to get them to change the design it did not go over well.
 
2:07 PM
which time are you talking about ?
 
Maybe it should be a rhymic riddle whose answer is "page not found" :L
But it has to be pretty transcendant.
 
I'm talking about when we complained about the logo.
 
Oh I remember ! But that's different because the logo is seen by everybody and we just want to change a very intern and specific thing
And the meta-SO 404 page is... meta.stackoverflow.com/404
waffles...oO
 
or to match better with the nature of a fruitless search : placing a red herring in the 404 page.
you know ... the fish
painted in red
(I love red)
And some text saying "oops, looks like you found a red herring"
 
It would be fun
But not helping for the puzzle ^^
 
2:20 PM
Let's keep brewing the ideas.
 
Now that I am looking the 404 page image and the symbols I'm thinking "What if designer HAVE ALREADY hidden something :O "
 
Has somebody already tried to pull something out of the current image ?
even though it seems completely random at first sight :/
 
I've tried. No luck.
 
So what kind of solution could have the site puzzle ? Just a message ? an ending page ? a post on meta ?
 
 
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5:19 PM
Hello :)
what's with this ?
 
You passed tho
 
yup, but is it similar to that No captcha thingy?
 
6:19 PM
It's to ensure accuracy, consistency, and altruism in continuing to allow you to conduct reviews.
A "spot check".
 
@feelinferrety thank you :)
 
Hello guys
Is there anyone?
 
hello...
 
What's up?
 
6:35 PM
nothing much, converting O2 into CO2 xD
 
Hi!
Just woke up from a nap c:
 
jokes apart, am listening to music...
what about you, @Ronronner ?
 
Ok xD Can I ask how to many people there is a god in puzzling quiz?
 
Hm? "A god in puzzling quiz"?
 
I'm ok, I'm studying Portoguese and I'mexploring puzzling site
 
6:36 PM
"god in puzzling quiz"?
 
Many people is a lot of good with puzzling, I can do just quiz much easy.
 
What's the difference between puzzling and quizzes?
 
Ok, so *good
 
look, we've been solving puzzling for years...
 
6:38 PM
ok
When you started was difficult or I'm stupid?
 
Yes, it's hard when you start solving puzzles.
 
in my case it's been since i was a little child.

Quizzes are different, based on a person's ability to retain and recall information or trivia
 
Usually it gets easier, but not always - some puzzles are still very hard!
 
Ok
 
@Ronronner No, you're not stupid.
You will learn a lot here,
riddles, brain teasers, mathematical puzzles ^_^
 
6:40 PM
I'm 13 and I solve puzzles since 2 month ago.
Ok ^_^
 
It is good,
 
Why?
 
you will gain a lot from the website.
 
Ok
Can I learn to solve puzzles without math advanced?
 
Yes, sure.
 
6:42 PM
Yeah! There are a lot of puzzles where you don't need advanced math.
 
I'm in my 2nd years of middle school (In Sectember I will be in my 3th). In High-School I'll not do math/science advanced but I will do languages.
 
What languages, other than Portuguese ?
 
I study Portoguese in my free time, Now I study English and French and in High school I will do English, Spanish or French, German and Latin.
I know English, French, Italian (Of course) and a bit of portoguese at the moment.
 
Whoa, great :D
 
I don't think my English is good anyway xD
 
6:45 PM
We understand you! It's okay to not be perfect - you're still learning c:
 
Ok, look at these type of puzzles, called riddles.
 
@Deusovi Ok, I'm studying English since 1 year.
 
When you "protect" a question, people who are new to the site can't answer it.
 
Why? It's strange xD
 
We were getting too many answers to that question that all said the same thing.
 
6:48 PM
Ok
Do you think crossword can improve problem solving?
 
Maybe! Crosswords would be very hard for you, though.
 
yes,
crosswords can be helpful.
But i would rather suggest you Sudoku.
 
Anyway, who am I and riddle are hard sometimes to understand, It has words not used very often.
@ABcDexter I had it, I haven't never understand how to It works xD
 
@Ronronner Oh ok,
 
Every row needs to have all the numbers from 1 through 9
 
6:51 PM
I knew
I know*
 
you just have to fill 1-9 in each row and column and make sure that not a sinle digit repeats
 
Oh, ok
 
try simply ones first :)
*simple
 
Is there a site with a grid of sudoku and I can fill it?
 
Maybe I understood
Wait
 
Is there a category of puzzles in the site like "4 pics 1 word"?
 
Rebus
 
I don't think rebuses are the same
 
6:56 PM
Visual rebuses which link to one final word
 
Some other number has to go there
Only fill in the squares you're sure of.
If you don't know if some number should go in some square, then don't put it in.
 
ok
 
@Ronronner Here's a site that links to some other logic puzzles that you might find interesting. puzzle-light-up.com
 
Thanks, Now I prefere use puzzling SE and Sudoku/crosswords. With puzzling SE I learn 2 things in 1 xD
 
7:02 PM
cool :)
 
@ABcDexter :)
@ABcDexter How long You solve puzzling?
 
Puzzles since i was 6-7 years, used to solve crosswords and other puzzles in newspapers.
 
Oh ok
I'm solving crosswords since I was 10, and 12 puzzles etc. I've started later xD
 
you will learn, you've got puzzling.SE :D
 
Ok :D
I'm finishing the my 1st Soduko
 
7:07 PM
I used to have books :)
 
Can I post here?
 
great, focus on that, and when solved check
yes, sure.
 
Books about what?
 
riddles, puzzles, brain teasers
 
Ok xD
What highschool You frequented?
 
7:09 PM
feel free to ask for book recommendations, have reads dozens of them O:)
 
If there's a pdf, I can.
 
Ok, i will check.
 
When you're in this chat?
like time I mean (here I can know when you can send me some books) and where're you from?
 
@Ronronner I have studied in 4 different schools, am from India.
you can send you email.
 
@ABcDexter What? I mean high school
 
7:12 PM
your
ok
high school was Army School Bikaner.
do you have an email ?
 
What was about?
Yes, wait
Your school was about math/science etc.?
alchimystlol@gmail.com
 
I had these subjects Mathematics, Science( Physics, Chemistry) and Computer Science.
 
Ok
 
Ok, i will send you a mail.
Hope you have solved that sudoku :)
 
I will have: Math, English, French/Spanish, German, Latin.
I will study programming like autodidact If I will want go on with that.
Yes, I've
@ABcDexter Did you send it?
 
7:17 PM
Good job, Ronronner!
 
Thanks, It was easy, I needed just understood it.
 
Did you make any mistakes after that first one?
 
Yes, When I am in row top right for, I saw just the aside where I am in and if there is a 1 for example in row top left I didn't see it.
Do you understood what I mean?
 
Yes, I understand. That happens a lot - if you keep practicing, you'll be able to notice more things like that.
 
ok x
xD
@Deusovi Do you know any puzzling/riddle or other to solve in this site easily?
 
7:25 PM
If you want an advice to start solving puzzle here :
- don't try unsolved puzzle too much (if they are unsolved it's because they are hard or really new)
- Spend some time working on the puzzles before looking at the solution, you will make a lot more of progress if you solve it youself
- Do what you like, they are a lot of all kind of puzzles, don't waste time on the puzzles you don't like
 
I don't think so, but it could be
 
Do you like like answer?
 
7:44 PM
Pay attention to hints -- I'm not sure if other answers predated the hint, but many people seem not to have included an explanation -- the puzzle author states that the two "mass" words have different definitions, so these two lines should be considered separately.
@Ronronner The others suggested sudoku as a good way to become a better puzzler. I agree, and would also like to recommend Picross (aka nonogram or hanjie) -- you read numbers on the sides of a grid and follow logic to color in boxes. When finished, you get a nice picture.
Any exercises involving "logic" and/or "critical thinking" will definitely help you become a better puzzler.
Riddles may be difficult for you, but if you want to try them, I suggest studying idioms and looking up words in a thesaurus. Be prepared to think metaphorically, not literally.
 
@Ronronner I would suggest reading this answer: puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/32341/21411
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8:05 PM
Thanks
 
8:17 PM
Hey @Deusovi how's that diamond treating you? BTW, your name also appears blue in chat.
 
It's great! And I noticed a couple hours ago.
 
8:40 PM
GPR brought up something in a comment I think is a good thing to think about addressing...
Spoilers -- should they be made into a rule, or at least a prescribed site standard?
We as a community have sort of self-policed it, but a published triumvirate ruling on the matter wouldn't hurt.
 
8:54 PM
Blue Deu....he's always standing alone.....I'm done.
 
Long time no see Khale
 
hiya - I actually check in every few days, but have been busy, so haven't interjected.
 
I've been away from PSE for awhile
 
Yeah, same here, as far as participation, sadly
other than elections
wb :)
 
Oh, the election notification on my app was like a grappling hook for me.
 
9:00 PM
lol
haven't had my app on
 
Me either... it was a notification XD
Oh, I mean mobile
 
yeah, same - but mine wasn't running, so no notifications =D
finally have my phone working in a small fashion, so running less things
 
It doesn't have to run, just be allowed to sync
And push notifications allowed
Ought to ping you anytime you get @ mentioned or site announcements
I don't think I got any for edits made to the last thing I was working on pre-hiatus
 
push notifications don't do anything if the app/service isn't running, on android
And I have everything off, currently
=D
 
shrug
Anywho I'm off.
wb yourself
Hope to see more of you folks
 
9:25 PM
Hey look!
A push notification. Just for you, @feelinferrety!
 
9:41 PM
Thanks, kk
 

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