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12:02 AM
Oh
!!caat
 
What make/model?
 
@Bob My availability, in GMT-4 (US Eastern): 06/23 - rest of the day and into the morning hours; 06/24 - all day and night; 06/25 - any time except morning from 7 AM - noon, preferably going to sleep no later than 2 AM as well; 06/26 - all day and night; 06/27 - all day and part of the night, but hope to get to sleep no later than 1 or 2 AM on 06/28
 
Bob
12:18 AM
@qwertyuiop Some Transcend thing at the moment... will probably pick up a Samsung EVO.
 
@Bob @JourneymanGeek I just sent two polls from Doodle - ignore the first one, click the second one... check your email
also see - support.doodle.com/customer/en/portal/articles/… - I have timezone support enabled
 
Bob
@allquixotic The Sat (25th) 2 AM one could be an issue with @JourneymanGeek's Sunday?
 
Bob
 
I don't know about you, but these don't sound like rather credible "fundamentals of cybersecurity":
> ➢Domain Separation
> ➢ Process Isolation
> ➢ Resource Encapsulation
> ➢ Modularity
> ➢ Least Privilege
> ➢ Abstraction
> ➢ Data Hiding
> ➢ Layering
> ➢ Conceptually Simple
> ➢ Minimization
 
Bob
12:30 AM
I suppose Sydney times match Melbourne
Brisbane has no DST :P
 
ughhh the blockquote didn't work
if you look at it closely, you can see that some of them are redundant
 
> ➢Domain Separation
➢Process Isolation
➢Resource Encapsulation
➢Modularity
➢Least Privilege
➢Abstraction
➢Data Hiding
➢Layering
➢Conceptually Simple
➢Minimization
 
yeah but how to keep the bullet points arrows
gosh dang it strikethrough
 
@oldmud0 strikethrough is ---strikethrough---
 
whose idea was making it 3 dashes? in github it's ~~hehe~~
 
12:34 AM
@Bob @allquixotic marked it tentatively
 
block quote is > followed by some text on the same line followed by one or more newlines - and don't put a > on each line
 
I might have sat free, ironically enough, depending on how bad my knee is
 
Bob
> The poll (or a part of it) has been changed in the meantime and a conflict has occured.
Please reload the page and retry.
!!no
 
@Bob sorry :( I added like 3 new hours at the end to account for US Tuesday wee hours of the morning ;p
@JourneymanGeek so, pessimistically then? :P
 
12:36 AM
@allquixotic when it comes to my free time, I am always pessimistic
 
me too generally but things have been less crazy on my weekends lately, and I have two vacation days coming up :)
 
Bob
> This e-mail address is already in use. Please use another one.
O_O
 
@Bob maybe you already registered? try G+?
 
Bob
Apparently I was
when?!
huh, early 2014
 
12:38 AM
@Bob hey, what appears to be your "after work" hours (I think) is pretty compatible with me on weekends and vacation days
except for my Saturday morning which is shopping time
 
Bob
@allquixotic The ones not on weekends are actually my midnight hours :P
The times I put there are times I can almost definitely be there. A bit of leeway for +1 hour before and up to +2 hours after most of those.
 
you have a bunch of five hour blocks where you indicate you're available -- if that's a workday for me, those blocks I'll never be available on workdays, but weekends and vacation, yes
those blocks start at 10 AM for me
 
Bob
@allquixotic The only caveat to those is I'll probably be on my laptop (860M) so nothing too intensive :P
 
that's not bad at all
 
@Bob soase runs on my stream ;p
 
12:41 AM
@Bob well... Stellaris and Hearts of Iron IV (Clausewitz engine games from Paradox) run fine on a Skylake i5's IGP (Macbook Pro) so I doubt they're very intensive.
 
Bob
Yea. SoaSE is great (long as I don't zoom in too much).
Battleborn is probably not great.
AotS is !!no
@JourneymanGeek I run it on my laptop at 1600x900... 3200x1800 is too much (and too tiny) :P
 
Battleborn looks cartoony enough that the low-res probably dips down into marginal playability on a modern IGP.
it doesn't seem to be focused on OMGAWESOME graphics
you definitely don't want to play something like ARK: Survival Evolved or Life Is Feudal on that, though
 
Bob
@allquixotic Maybe if I turn settings way down, yea.
 
in ARK's case, it uses very high-res textures and effects on the latest Unreal engine
 
Bob
The problem isn't graphics quality. It's framerate. Thing feels jaggy under 60.
 
12:42 AM
in LiF's case, the graphics quality sucks ass, but it's just ridiculously poorly optimized
 
Bob
Oh, damn. LiF was one I wanted to play on the laptop -_-
 
Bob
Also, laptop mouse isn't great so SoaSE is fine but FPSes like Battleborn are a tad painful
 
I do need to plan for desk-migration
 
yeah, they may have improved it slightly, but it uses an extremely old engine that's been retrofitted to DX11 I think, and the Russian devs behind it are not the clueful ones like you see at Unigine for example :P
 
12:43 AM
IN SOVIET RUSSIA, SOFTWARE WRITES YOU!
3
 
Bob
@allquixotic One of these days I might go for a x70M laptop but that'll be well after the desktop upgrade :P
x60M seemed fine at the time for the majority of (light-ish) gaming
 
@Bob the GTX 1070 will be fitted directly into laptops and they won't even make an "M" chip - that's what Jen-Huang said on launch day of the 1080, anyway.
it'll just be throttled down to match the cooling solution and power profile, but will be able to be clocked up to full desktop speed in laptops with the right amount of cooling
same with the GTX 1080
so basically it'll be the same ASIC, but the manufacturer might not sell it running at full-bore if their thermal and power solution doesn't cut it
 
Bob
@allquixotic Interesting, but probably significantly more expensive.
@allquixotic My current laptop is compact - 13" -_-
 
!! s/Jen-Huang/Jen-Hsun/
 
Bob
The 860M is BGA, not MXM
 
12:46 AM
@allquixotic @Bob the GTX 1070 will be fitted directly into laptops and they won't even make an "M" chip - that's what Jen-Hsun said on launch day of the 1080, anyway. (source)
 
Bob
Cooling is pretty good, though.
It usually runs passive cooling, but has pretty powerful (and loud!) fans.
 
I think you might see the GTX 1070 and 1080 make an appearance in slim-ish 13" laptops, but if it does, you'll almost certainly see it throttled down. Or some kind of absolute miracle of thermal engineering from the manufacturer
This actually gives manufacturers an incentive (and a challenge) to develop something incredible
I'm excited to see if they succeed
 
Bob
@allquixotic Well, my laptop (W230SS) is pretty thick. Lots of space for airflow.
Though, my next (probably in 2+ years) will be 15"
And probably a slimmer one.
 
Bob
Actually, I could use Steam's streaming
 
12:48 AM
they'll almost certainly have them running at full-bore (with the A/C power plugged in) in 15"
 
I find 12" integrated graphics my personal sweet spot
especially if I can install a tbolt video adaptor in future.
 
Bob
@allquixotic So, do you feel like playing something in ~13 hours?
The one I definitely want to make is the one where @JourneymanGeek is there, even if we have to sacrifice some of the other matching blocks :P
 
@Bob yeah :) if I go to sleep within the next 5 hours (which is likely), I'll naturally wake up about an hour or two before that gaming session
 
@Bob that's the 'definate'
 
well I think we should definitely plan on the one where all three of us have it
but we should start up something where it's just you and me, bob
 
12:49 AM
I want to skip grocery shopping this week, my knee's borked
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Yea, my listed times are definite too but I can make others if you two happen to coincide elsewhere.
@JourneymanGeek That bad? :(
 
(IE, ping me here, and I'll be yay/nay)
 
mine are not definite, but my "red" (can't make it) blocks are 100% guaranteed not to work for me
 
@Bob its a skinned knee, but there's a fair amount of swelling
 
Bob
ow
@allquixotic Yea, I think that one coincides with @JourneymanGeek's normal shopping time..?
 
12:51 AM
@Bob which I want to miss
 
Bob
@allquixotic Heh, I went for the definites because I basically don't have normal sleeping patterns :P
 
with prodding from an alarm I can theoretically be awake at any time; the red blocks are basically external responsibilities outside my control
like... not being a zombie when it's time to do the family weekly shop, and getting at least 5 hours of sleep before work Tuesday
 
Bob
@allquixotic gitter
 
The cat knows he is not allowed on the table, so he uses a placemat. https://t.co/5Z6c7nGvRY
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek O_O
I refuse to believe that's serious.
 
It's true as long as that list of users isn't exclusive ;)
 
Bob
> command '59 volume partition disk:179,0 public' failed with '400 59 Command failed'
THAT'S NOT GOOD
 
2:41 AM
rekt
 
3:05 AM
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Q: All video capture of desktop is rotated 45 degrees clockwise

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not only weird but how is that even possible.
could they mean 90* ?
 
Does Android provide any indication that my phone is getting LTE Advanced or just LTE?
 
3:26 AM
&^$@%$ , I type my password perfect multiple times into e-bay , and (it is a bit weird) it doesnt click through. I do the reset password thing, and when i type the password There "The password cannot be the same as previous used passwords."
Sooo, dangit i was obviously typing it correct.
My secure password is so weird, 2 other places wouldnt even accept it either. Dang cant win for trying.
ya now "go f-- yourself and your pickey system" is an invalid password Phhht.
"For security reasons, please choose a password you have not used before." for security reasons why have you stored all my previous passwords anyway? making a dictionary?
We be all secure like, dont expect it to make any logical sence ever, and quit noticing we would let anyone in who has your Old phone number or OLD e-mail address access easily.
 
3:51 AM
Why does my phone drop to HSPA when making a voice call? (Nexus 5X on AT&T.)
 
Bob
Because you don't have VoLTE
 
What gives? It's been like this for a while even though the device and network are supposed to support VoLTE.
 
@bwDraco cause thats what it does? ATT doesnt do voice over LTE , and your not alone in that question.
 
Feb 25 at 21:42, by bwDraco
Dammit. I'm not getting VoLTE. My phone's dropping to HSPA+ whenever I make a voice call.
 
Bob
You have to enable it in phone settings. Often not possible unless on carrier ROM.
 
3:57 AM
I think I know what's going on. SIP is disabled in the phone app.
I know VoLTE is provisioned so it should be possible to make VoLTE calls.
...not sure if this is the issue, though.
 
why would anyone want that when the LTE is (still) not as wide of coverage, especially in the boondies?
seems like as long as they are still supporting the older method, the phone would cut out less.
hey brilliant Idea (thiers) do the phone calls over wifi. Like thats gonna work 50 feet later.
 
4:14 AM
> You need an AT&T HD Voice SIM card that is UICC-G or higher installed in your smartphone to enjoy the rich calling experience of AT&T HD voice. An HD Voice SIM card will have the digits 27 or 28 in the 9th and 10th positions.
I briefly ejected the SIM and the ICCID indeed has 27 in the specified positions.
Perhaps it's a matter of whether the other device has VoLTE?
 
•Both caller and receiver need to use . . . ?
 
I remember the old days when accessing voicemail by dialing my own number costed double the airtime minutes.
Heck, I still remember my mother's old pager!
 
lol. i remember having an analog phone, and it seemed to reach longer to towers. but i never talked on it sooo long as now to say that, being cut out was better or not.
data glitches are almost more irritating than static. with static you still knew the person was there, and it didnt click pop and suddenly blare in your ear.
 
Bob
4:31 AM
Welp. World's going to hell in a handbasket.
4
 
it already did that, more than once
 
Bob
Well, it's gonna go faster.
 
what is making it faster? trump isnt president YET ? :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Oh, nothing much. Just Britain leaving the EU.
 
Feb 20 at 17:53, by bwDraco
> iDon't have a real keyboard.
iDon't run simultaneous apps.
iDon't take 5-megapixel pictures.
iDon't customize.
iDon't run widgets.
iDon't allow open development.
iDon't take pictures in the dark.
iDon't have interchangeable batteries.
Everything iDon't... DROID Does
So much has changed since...
 
4:37 AM
disk went to sleep in the middle of a task? microsoft does that
 
Widgets on the home and lock screens are finally a reality on iOS 10.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek SD card failure
 
iOS 10 should put an end to the "iOS is not customizable" argument. It took Apple this long, though, and it would not have happened under Steve Jobs.
 
@bwDraco I didnt ever think they were limited in some of those. but as apple finnaly adds things like that, Microsoft is taking them away, trying to be like apple. Why cant we have both
if somone grabbed somone elses comuter/phone they could use it right away being the same. If you grab my computer or phone, the first thing you would want to do is factory reset them :-)
 
It's still not as flexible as Android but it's a big step forward.
 
Bob
4:43 AM
> if I IIRC correctly
 
Android has long been known for being extraordinarily customizable though this comes at the cost of usability for less tech-savvy users.
 
Good Morning!
 
i now read this brittian leaving the EU news, vote is close favoring leave. Did they have a Pre-Nup?
who gets to keep the nukes? :-)
 
UK confirms exit from EU: telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/…
 
so it is appropriate indeed that i am having thanksgiving dinner. like america, it isnt brittian leaving the EU, it is the EU leaving brittian :-)
we can toss some euros in the bay
Me, never been outside the US, ever. so all that is foreign to me.
you know how long texas has wanted to succeed from the "union", it never happened, or even got close. Might have something to do with then mexico would adopt them :-)
 
5:00 AM
What the fuck. #Brexit
 
if the pound drops low enough will i be able to buy a g-force 1070 cheap from there? or should i buy pounds now and short sell them later?
somone is going to profit widely from this, why not me too :-)
 
GBP is extremely volatile and you may want to sell now.
 
but say i can buy 2-1 when it drops?
it's not like the whole system will collapse and never come back, this is just market wave/surge get out your boogie board
 
@bwDraco or buy stuff from the UK before prices get adjusted ;p
 
Night.
 
5:15 AM
"U.S. stocks made their biggest gain in a month Thursday as investors grew more optimistic that Britons will vote to stay in the European Union" cnsnews.com/news/article/… OOPs
@bwDraco sleep well, i think i need to do some of that also.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Lots of people with that idea :P ozbargain.com.au/node/254471
 
5:30 AM
and I kinda doubt the point will stay that low for long
 
Bob
5:54 AM
> we're all going to die
This is great.
 
haha'
I don't get whats the big deal about it is
 
@HackToHell the EU's a common market and london's the hub of it
Also, politicians,
 
ah, so the EU is loosing their head.
 
Bob
@HackToHell Oh, not much. Just economical and political upheaval worldwide, the possibility of another recession, the possibility of an avalanche effect...
 
5:57 AM
o0
 
And scotland wants into the EU but their ruling party wants out of the UK
 
I should start reading the newspaper
 
NI wants into the EU, but... its NI, its complicated
Wierdly both big parties have pro and anti EU elements
 
Bob
This might all blow over in another year. Or it might be studied 50 years later as one of the contributing factors towards WW3.
 
or the broker deals ala many scandinavian countries
 
6:00 AM
May be the starting factor of a great Depression to the US.
 
@NetworkKingPin economy is already shit everywhere
 
@JourneymanGeek I agree with you on that.
 
6:16 AM
@Bob whoa
That serious o0
Related to the EU refugee crisis ?
 
Bob
@HackToHell Eh, I'm just listing the extremes.
Chances are it won't really be at either extreme.
 
more likely
Life goes on
 
Bob
6:32 AM
> Microsoft Wallet with tap to pay is now available for Windows Insiders
... Google, Apple, Samsung, Microsoft.
Everyone's got their own incompatible NFC payment system.
...I'll just stick with my physical card that works pretty much everywhere without funny restrictions.
 
7:24 AM
morning
:(
 
Bob
7:35 AM
@Burgi So, which country are you moving to? :P
 
ireland probably :(
scotland would find it really tough going alone
basically because our demographic all the old people voted to leave
 
@Burgi I was joking to someone that maybe we ought to move to mars.
 
heh
i'd prefer venus. the gravity is closer to earth
 
Apparently Cameron quit
 
scotlands voting bloc in the EU would be really small. smaller than greece, they might be able to make a run at it if the oil prices go up...
yeah just saw that
 
7:40 AM
I doubt the scots will get another referendum that soon
 
Live scenes from the channel tunnel #EURefResults #EUref #referendum https://t.co/Sece2n4yxr
 
i hope you guys remember me fondly when in 3 years time i'm using the case of my PC as a fireplace because Britain has reverted to a medieval wasteland
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7:59 AM
@Burgi You can come crash over here at my place if it comes to that.
 
What did britain decide?
If they leave, they won't join again after they realize that they messed up big time??
 
its not that simple
 
um... ok
 
we would have to have another vote to join
 
and the EU would need to let them back in
heh
 
8:04 AM
then we would have to accept the euro and our voting bloc on the council would be vastly reduced as we would be a new member
 
You really are doomed, aren't you?
 
eh
who knows.
 
we are the 5th biggest economy in the world
we aren't going to vanish
 
(I'm typically a euroskeptic, but meh, I have no horse in this race, so to speak)
 
10 mins ago, by Burgi
i hope you guys remember me fondly when in 3 years time i'm using the case of my PC as a fireplace because Britain has reverted to a medieval wasteland
 
8:05 AM
@JourneymanGeek you have to be in it to change it
 
:P
 
@Burgi more like its a british decision.
so I'm not going to go "Hey, this was the right/wrong thing"
 
that is interesting
 
and tbh, this was confusing, since leave vs stay was hardly on party lines and it was so close
 
hypothetically if you did have a vote which way would you have gone and why?
 
8:07 AM
"I'm typically a euroskeptic"
 
@Burgi I would've stayed... youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8
 
I don't really believe the EU has a coherent plan, its somewhat undemocratic, with many decisions made by unelected bureaucrats. While the single market and mobility of labour is nice, that affects companies to a greater extent than 'regular' folks
 
fair point
 
and this can be done in other ways. A UK outside the EU could be more agile
At the end of the day though, I have no right to judge you lot ;p
 
D: david cameron resigned
ow
 
8:11 AM
@Edity i thought you had quit stack exchange
 
Also, external circumstances....
 
@Burgi All reverted and looking well. :D
 
I don't think the germans and french did themselves any favours with the whole slightly belligerant air they had "stay or else", and frankly the EU has more to lose from the UK leaving.
 
His last post was 11 hours ago
 
Now, worst case scenario.... scotland breaks away NI falls into a civil war, and catalonia splits from spain....
 
8:13 AM
Thank you everyone who voted to keep Britain stronger, safer & better off in Europe - and thousands of @StrongerIn campaigners around the UK
wth?
 
@bwDraco Great. I went to that site and the live video is of Trump's helicopter landing. WHY DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT THAT LITTLE MAN
 
the horror is that by christmas we'll have boris as PM and trump in the white house
their stupid combined hair wafting in the breeze
 
bizzare.
 
@Burgi there might be hell toupee.
 
no
just no
;)
 
8:15 AM
IN USA- TRUMP TRUMPETS YOU
get it?
 
I'm not even sure there's a reasonable option in the US election
!!no
 
HEY CHATBOTS BACK
 
in other news the steam sale is on!!!!
 
@Edity after the recyclebin2 fiasco, I'm not convinced you're responsible enough to take the keys.
 
8:17 AM
I know. :/
 
I don't want you taking out the ol cylon raider and returning with a pile of scrap.
 
I... I think I'm gonna start working on my safe house. With no boris and trump, WWIII is inevitable...
 
:/\ Quack!
 
@Burgi heh, I might sit this one out
I have a fairly big purchase planned in july ._.
 
can we have a referendum on the chatbot's membership of this channel?
 
8:18 AM
WW3 Trump Edition
 
Star this if you want @ChatBotJohnCavil to remain
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Star this if you want @ChatBotJohnCavil to leave
7
 
Its spelled star
 
star not START
 
8:19 AM
damn autocorrect...
@Burgi ^
 
ONE STAR FOR CHATBOT TO LEAVE
 
cripes. Kids these days. With their fancy smancy spellcheck. Back in my day, you actually had to take a book, and open it up to the right page, and look up the word UPHILL, BOTH WAYS, IN THE SWELTERING TROPICAL HEAT, BOTH WAYS. IN THE SNOW, WHILE FIGHTNING OFF WILD YETI WITH NOTHING BUT YOUR TEETH, CAUSE YOU HAD A DICTIONARY IN YOUR HANDS.
 
Have you heard of the new mods in AU (ask ubuntu or australia, each way)
 
What happens in vegas tasmania stays in tasmania....
 
@Burgi not sure about Boris, but I sure hope Trump doesn't get elected. However, there are enough stupid people in the US that it is a distinct possibility.
 
8:23 AM
I am going to start calling trump trumpet.
LOL
 
in the uk trump is a type of fart
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOL
OH THIS IS GOING TO COUNT AGAINST MY MAX LOLS
 
@allquixotic IMO there's no 'good' choice. Heck, people were excited that Dwayne Johnson might stand...
 
@Edity You might want to calm down...
 
(and that's really a problem with the delegate/party/elector system you guys use)
 
8:27 AM
Sorry.
I laugh very commonly.
 
@Edity sorry means you control yourself, and not be distruptive.
 
ok
 
(sadly, the system I like the best for elections is PR + STV )
 
Glitch: Zooming out 15% and back to normal causes some profile picutres to be blured
 
there are two good songs for today
radio free europe by REM and its the end of the world as we know it by REM... ;)
 
8:34 AM
Stardock games going for cheap in the steam summer sale: forums.stardock.com/477846/page/1
 
and if you're bored by all this, just make some REM and sleep? ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I just think the plan for leaving didn't sound very well thought out. I tend to shy away from reactionary actions. <= opinion of a largely uninformed outsider
 
@Bob Plan? WE DON'T NEED NO PLAN!
@Bob agreed.
hence me saying "typically" and making it clear "my opinion wasn't really important" here ;p
 
Bob
It could go either way, but overall it's probably not great for European stability.
 
@Bob europe isn't terribly stable?
 
Bob
8:40 AM
@JourneymanGeek ...does that mean it should be less stable? :P
 
@Bob rather that its inherently unstable
 
Morning peeps. Today I'm happy I've got dual nationality :)
 
Bob
Then there's the whole "EU is a sinking ship" argument, which might happen... might even be a consequence of this.
We'll see in a decade or two.
 
pretty much
 
Bob
I might even be able to watch it happen over fibre!
 
8:41 AM
Now you're being irrationally optimistic ;p
 
Bob
lol
 
i'm winning the chatbot leave campaign
 
Nothing much will happen for two years anyway:
"As a first step, the British government must notify the EU of its intention to leave the EU. The EU and the UK will then start negotiations on a withdrawal agreement. This process may take some time. It is not possible to say exactly how long it will take. The Treaty on European Union provides for a period of two years for these negotiations. However, this may be extended with the consent of the UK and all EU member states."
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Well, it's doing better than last century.
 
If it all goes pear shaped I will move to Switzerland.
 
8:44 AM
@Burgi I cannot start my own message for it to stay :/
 
resets the star count for leave
 
@DavidPostill where do you live right now?
 
@Rahul2001 UK, Liverpool
 
Ah, ok
@JourneymanGeek yay!
 
I didn't actually do that. Cavil stays, unless TPTB decide otherwise. ;p
 
8:47 AM
TBTB?
 
The Powers That Be.
 
tptb
 
sorry i misread
 
I mispelled it the first time ;p Clearly you did. Mods do not make mistakes.
 
now i look like an idiot :(
 
!!help
I am still banned.
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Look at the first entry. Typos have taken over.
 
 
Bob
The Bowers That Be?
 
The Powers That Microsoft (TPTM)
I really need this warning:
 
Bob
8:58 AM
It's 10 out but feels like 3. My hands are frozen.
 

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