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Q: Is Buddhism also considered a Valid Path in Hindu scriptures?

TezzThe Philosophy of Buddhism is directly refuted itself in Brahma Sutras. But refutation of Philosophy doesn't mean that the path is not Valid. For eg. Adi Shankaracharya also refuted the Philosophy of Pancharatra Agamas. But he still considering Pancharatra are able to give Mokshya. The name Bud...

 
 
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@KeshavSrinivasan I've downloaded first book mentioned there.
btw, I'll first look for Shri Bhashya (by ramanujacharya) Sanskrit-Hindi.........
@Tezz I don't know where he describes. Let me ask question...
 
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Q: Where does Adi Shankarachrya describe the three levels of reality?

PandyaAccording to Advaita Vedanta, there are three levels of reality: Pāramārthika (परमार्थिक) Vyāvahārika (व्यवहारिक) Prāthibhāsika (प्रतिभासिक) The wikipedia article on Advaita Vedanta says that: Shankara uses sublation as the criterion to postulate an ontological hierarchy of three levels ...

@Tezz done! ^^^
 
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Q: Where does Adi Shankarachrya describe the three levels of reality?

PandyaAccording to Advaita Vedanta, there are three levels of reality: Pāramārthika (परमार्थिक) Vyāvahārika (व्यवहारिक) Prāthibhāsika (प्रतिभासिक) The wikipedia article on Advaita Vedanta says that: Shankara uses sublation as the criterion to postulate an ontological hierarchy of three levels ...

 
@Pandya I don't know of any Hindi translations of the Sri Bhashya that are online, only English translations.
 
no-problem; I'll search
> In fact, some scholars believe that Adi Shankaracharya's guru's guru Gaudapada was originally a Yogachara Buddhist,
@KeshavSrinivasan Have you read Gaudapad Karika?
I've also visited your question:
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Q: How did the Advaita Acharya Gaudapada meet Vyasa's son Shuka?

Keshav SrinivasanThe most prominent thinker associated with the Advaita Vedanta school is Adi Shankaracharaya, but he wasn't the founder of Advaita; Adi Shankaracharaya's guru Govinda and Govinda's guru Gaudapada were also Advaitins. As I discuss in this question, Gaudapada is famous for his commentary on the Ma...

 
@Pandya Yeah, I've read large parts of it along with Adi Shankaracharya's commentary on Gaydapada's Karika.
 
fine
 
5:01 AM
@Pandya For more information on the connections of Gaudapada's work to Buddhism, you can read Hajime Nakamura's History of Early Vedanta Philosophy.
 
oh! I just remember your post hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/11190/277
The thing to notice:
99th verse of 4th chapter of Gaudapada Karika
क्रमते न हि बुद्धस्य ज्ञानं धर्मेषु तायिनः ।
सर्वे धर्मास्तथा ज्ञानं नैतद्बुद्धेन भाषितम् ॥ ९९॥
means..
99 The Knowledge of the wise man, who is all light, is never related to any object. All the jivas, as well as Knowledge, are ever unrelated to objects. This is not the view of Buddha.
@KeshavSrinivasan ^^^
 
@Pandya Yes, no one is claiming that Gaudapada agrees 100% with Buddhism.
 
I just want to discuss that Gaudapada clarifies in mentioned verse that this is not teaching of Buddha
 
@Pandya The claim is that Gaudapada was originally a Yogachara Buddhist, but then modified the doctrines slightly so that it subscribed to the Atman view as opposed to the Anatman view.
 
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5:07 AM
@Pandya You see, Yogachara Buddhism states that the world is an illusion, and that in reality the only thing that exists is Shunya or nothingness. The claim is that Gaudapada kept the Yogachara theory of Maya, but then in his view the ultimate reality is Brahman rather than Shunya.
@kalash Hi
 
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@KeshavSrinivasan what are you taking about
 
I don't know about Buddhism (or teaching)
But yes (I agree) that many claims about that
 
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i agree
 
@Pandya Hajime Nakamura argues that the Brahma Sutras subscribe to some kind of Bhedabheda philosophy, perhaps identical with Bhaskara's philosophy of Aupadhika Bhedabheda, but then Gaudapada used Yogachara Buddhist ideas to create a new interpretation of Vedanta, namely Advaita.
 
I think I should first read Brahma Sutra to understand exactly....
 
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5:15 AM
@Pandya exactly
 
@Pandya By the way, the origin of the Mandukya Upanishad and Gaudapada's Karika is very interesting. Did you know that we have no manuscripts of the Mandukya Upanishad without Gaudapada's Karika? See my question here:
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Q: Does Madhvacharya correctly attribute the Mandukya Upanishad and Gaudapada's commentary to Varuna and Brahma?

Keshav SrinivasanThe shortest of all the Upanishads is known as the Mandukya Upanishad. It's only twelve verses long, and it isn't mentioned much in Hindu scripture, but it grew into prominence after Gaudapada, the early Advaita Acharya who was Adi Shankaracharya's guru's guru, composed a famous Karika or commen...

 
@KeshavSrinivasan new thing to know!
 
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By the way,
In the Indian religious and philosophical traditions, all knowledge is traced back to the Gods and to the Rishis who saw the vedas. Thus, the advaita guru-paramparā (Lineage of Gurus in Non-dualism) begins with the Daiva-paramparā, followed by the Ṛṣi-paramparā, which includes the vedic seers Vaśiṣṭha, his son Śakti, his son Parāśara, his son Vyāsa, (the famous redactor of the vedas, he is also traditionally identified with Bādarāyaṇa, the composer of the Brahmasūtras), and Vyāsa's son Śuka. After Śuka, we turn to the Mānava-paramparā, which brings us to historical times and personalities. ��2...
 
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hmmmm
 
5:22 AM
@KeshavSrinivasan we've List but missing any Advaita work prior to Gaudapara.
 
@Pandya Well, like I said many people believe that Gaudapada was the one who invented Advaita.
 
yes.
 
@Pandya By the way, one interesting work that sheds light on what Vedanta was like before the time of Adi Shankaracharya is Sadyojyoti's Paramoksha Nirasa Karika.
 
can you provide link for Sadyojyoti's Paramoksha Nirasa Karika.
 
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are you chatting or fighting
 
5:26 AM
@Dr.ZOMBOOS we never fight!
 
@Pandya Sadyojyoti was a Shaiva Siddhanta philosopher who lived before the time of Adi Shankaracharya. The Paramoksha Nirasa Karika is a work designed to prove that all the rival schools to Shaiva Siddhanta have an incorrect conception of Moksha.
 
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@Pandya ok sorry
 
I've to leave room now, by the way there is one important thing I want to discuss; will be back
 
@Pandya One of the schools Sadyojyoti criticizes is the Vedanta school, but he does not mention Advaita. Instead, his description of the Vedanta school's beliefs involve a realist interpretation of Vedanta, like Aupadhika Bhedabheda or Visistadvaita, where the world is not an illusion.
@Pandya Due to copyright issues I don't want to post a link to it here, but I can email it to you.
@Dr.ZOMBOOS So what brings you to the Hinduism chat room?
 
@Pandya oh thanks... let's hope someone answers the question...
 
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6:12 AM
@KeshavSrinivasan i am a hindu
 
7:20 AM
@Dr.ZOMBOOS Nice
@Dr.ZOMBOOS So have you visited the actual site?
 
 
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This is a list of English words of Sanskrit origin. Many of these words were not directly borrowed from Sanskrit. The meaning of some words have changed slightly after being borrowed. Both languages belong to the Indo-European language family and have numerous cognate terms; these words are not of Sanskrit origin and are not included. Mahesan == A == Ahimsa from अहिंसा ahimsā, which means "not injuring anything, do not harm anyone". Ambarella through Sinhalese: ඇඹරැල්ලා æmbarællā ultimately from Sanskrit: अम्बरेल्ला, a kind of tree. Amrita from Sanskrit अमृतम् amṛtam, nectar of everlasting...
@ SwamiVishwananda As you've said:
> Why does everyone keep on referring to the Wikipedia articles on Hinduism that are written for the most part by Western Christian academics?? Simply because it is easy access on the internet?
I also want to recommend text/concept explained by Indian philosopher rather than wester.
which I've also clarified in this post
So, Can you suggest some good source that are written by Indian academics rather than western for hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/10599/277 ? @SwamiVishwananda
 
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@KeshavSrinivasan no
 
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@KeshavSrinivasan should i visit
 
12:53 PM
@Dr.ZOMBOOS Yes, absolutely. You could learn a lot.
@Pandya Swami Vishwananda has never participated in chat, no matter how many times he's been invited.
@Pandya By the way, do you want me to email you Sadyojyoti's Paramoksha Nirasa Karika.
 
1:15 PM
@KeshavSrinivasan Do you know why he doesn't use chat feature?
I've searched and found
and his talk
By the way; I've also found one useful article on:
Advaita Vedanta is in Guru-Shishya parampara. Seeds of Advaitic thoughts are seen in the Rgveda. However, the credit for making it a systematic, logical philosophical system goes to Sankara Bhagavatpada. Names of the Acaryas who have contributed significantly to Advaita Vedanta has to be recorded for posterity. This article strives to document as many of them as possible, with list of their work. == Prasthanatrayi in Advaita Vedanta == The canonical texts taught and studied in Advaita Vedanta are the Upanishads, the Bhagavad-Gita, and the Brahmasutra. Brahmasutra is authored by Badarayana (around...
 
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Q: How Four Castes created which are described in Bhagavad Gita ?

Shree KrishnaLord Shri Krishna said regarding four castes to Arjuna in Bhagavad Gita. In this Sloka of Bhagavad Gita: ब्राह्मणक्षत्रियविशां शूद्राणां च परंतप। कर्माणि प्रविभक्तानि स्वभावप्रभवैर्गुणैः।।18.41।। Brāhmaṇas, kṣatriyas, vaiśyas and śūdras are distinguished by their qualities of work, O ...

 
1:31 PM
@Tezz can you post screen-shot or something of page 82 which you've told
@KeshavSrinivasan @Tezz chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/30264166#30264166 may helpful to know
 
1:51 PM
@Pandya For more information on those pre-Badarayana and pre-Shankara Vedantic philosophers listed in that Wikipedia article, see Hajime Nakamura's book.
@Pandya Also, Ramanujacharya quotes those pre-Shankara philosophers a lot in his Vedartha Sangraha.
 
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@Pandya ok here is the screenshot of that page...
@Pandya see above image...
 
 
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Q: What scriptures describe Krishna granting Moksha to a demon who killed a rishi?

Keshav SrinivasanThe Alwars (also spelled Azhwars) are a group of 12 ancient Vaishnava saints who lived in Tamil Nadu and are famous for their poetry in praise of Vishnu. The Alwars are crucially important figures in the development of Vaishnavism; it is the principles and beliefs embodied in the Alwars' poems th...

 

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