Is it a known thing the standalone package/document class does not play nice with latexdiff (even with the various options for expanding -- except for --no-expand)?
Oxford has instructions to set up CLS file for Lyx here so this thread for Aalto uni. So
How can you use Aalto custom CLS file in Lyx?
Aalto files
CLS file (copy here)
Aalto Thesis LaTex template
@hhh ^^^ could you edit that answer making it an answer removing all the trials and other stuff and then self-accept to get it off the unanswered list. As it is now it isn't really any use to anyone but you:-)
This is what happens to you if you start working in biology: "PLOS does not accept vector EPS figures generated in LaTeX. PLOS accepts only TIFFs or EPS created in standard software." ref
@barbarabeeton I finally got my TUGboat todat and looked for the first time at the address field. They sent it to "M NCHENGLADBACH", the Ö is missing ;-((.
Experts, I have another question on making new environment. I wanted to ask about it on main board, but thought to check here first. I understand I can't use verbatim or listings in newenvironment. BUt now I am trying to use, in tex4ht mode, a tex4ht command and it fails. The command works ok outside of \newenvironment. So I am sure if this is due to limitation of newenv. or something else.
@Nasser presumably html is another verbatim environment (if you can put html rather than tex syntax in to it) so it is exactly the same issue
@Nasser you'll be able to do that functionality but as with listings you'll need to read the package documentation to see what to do. (I haven't looked at htlatex since last century so I don't remember, and it's probably different by now anyway)
@DavidCarlisle Ok, I thought so. Thanks. This really makes it hard. I was trying to generate different code for tex4ht vs. for pdf.
@DavidCarlisle listing is not what I wanted to use in HTML mode. I was trying to enject direct HTML code, with HTML specific code for code formating on the web.
So basically, same environment, but it does one thing in HTML and another thing in PDF. But it is hard to do, since \newenvironment is so picky.
Here is an example which works:
\documentclass[12pt]{book}%
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\begin{document}
This is a test
\ifdefined\HCode
\ScriptEnv{html}
{\NoFonts\hfill\break}
{\EndNoFonts}
\begin{html}
<pre>
\end{html}
foo
\begin{html}
</pre>
\end{html}
\else
foo
\fi
test is completed.
\end{document}
@Nasser yes I know but html and listings will fail for the same reason, they change tex's parser so like all verbatim commands you won't be able to nest them.
But I wanted to replace all of the above with
\begin{matlab}
foo
\end{matlab}
@DavidCarlisle Ok, so I need a completely new solution. But I am using environment already for code formating in PDF, and I do not want to make new code for tex4ht. That is the whole point.
Someone should just fix \newenvironment and make it works with verbatim and listings, instead of each package making new commands for its own use to go around this limitation. This makes no sense.
Would it be fine to add to this answer and mention that as of v1.1.0 of TikZ-Feynman, the bug mentioned has been fixed and the appropriate warnings are issued? I couldn't find much from a cursory glance through the meta site.
@Nasser of course it makes sense and the same restriction is in more or less every other programming language, and in xml etc. listings (or html) and similar environments turn off the normal tex language tokenization so they are like a multi-line comment or an xml CDATA declaration. You can not start a multi-line comment in one function and end it in another in any language I know.
@DavidCarlisle but this means, I can't have an environment that does one thing in pdf and another thing in tex4ht. Same API, but do different things. That is the problem. In other languages, one makes a function, pass the function the data and the parameters. In Latex, this is not possible with newenvironment.
@DavidCarlisle ok, so would you like me to make an official question on this at main board? I do not see how, with the limitation of newenvironment, one can make it do one thing in tex4ht and another in pdf, since we just finished saying, HTML is like verbatim and is not allowed there. Or may be I should give up on this whole idea.
@Nasser you can do what you want in latex, but you just need to follow the tex4ht docs (or listings docs or whatever package you are using) and you can not do what you want to do at all in most languages. In C or fortran for example you can not have a function foo(1+2) that sometimes takes the expression and sometimes takes 3 as fortran always evaluates the arguments first. In tex you can do that but the default is that the argument is scanned first which
@Nasser means that you can then not scan it a different way, verbatim, or as html, without doing something special.
@DavidCarlisle This all over my head, what Latex does. All what I want to do is very simple. I want to do foo( code ). And inside foo function, it should do one thing with the code if running texh4t and do another thing if running pdf. That is all. I can do this in perl very easily. But I do not know how to do it in Latex.
Given that the style you need to use disallows using natbib, the conclusion is that the organization you'll submit your paper to doesn't accept an author-year citation scheme. Most likely also biblatex would be rejected.
Emulating the working of natbib would mean rewriting it from scratch.
@egreg this does not work for what I want to do, which is pass code fragments, as in listings? That is the problem. How would I pass
K=[3 -2;-2 2]; M=[1 0;0 3]; [phi,lam]=eig(K,M)
as one argument to the command? In Perl, I pass it as multiline raw string. It can be 100 lines long, or just one word. The main problem, is that I do not know how to pass arbitrary text around in Latex.
@egreg but the code fragment is listed inside Latex code, not in a file. If the code was in file, I can pass the file name. but I have lots of code, inside Latex now, as lstlisting. I can't pass this whole code fragment listing as one argument to a command.
@egreg I tried that also. did not like it at all and fragile. I'd like to use luacode inside latex., but can't figure how to pass luacode a listing verbatim. If I can figure how to pass listings verbatim to luacode from Latex, I can do this whole thing inside luacode and bypass newenvironment all togother. But it is over my head now how to do it.
I need to get a PhD in Latex to figure this one out.
@Nasser in perl you can't do the analogous thing at all, as you can't change the language syntax on the fly like you do in tex. you could pass the equivalent of an string around \detokenize{zbcdef} but that isn't what you want, in listings the characters are not an inert string they are embedded instructions for highlighting, and in tex4ht code they are parsed differently so interpreted as different instructions, tex is one of the few languages that let you reparse input in that way.
When I define a \newcommand over multiple lines, I get unwanted white space in my output.
How do I make it so I can write a long command, but still make it readable, without getting the extra white spaces?
My current solution is just to write everything without line breaks, but that's not ver...
This requires the search tokens to be x-type expanded. What if I wanted to replace \int_C by \sum^N? I'd have to use \tl_replace_all:Nxn \l_tmpa_tl { \exp_not:N \int \char_generate:nn { `_ } { 8 } } { \sum\sp }
@egreg To be honest, I don't really need a solution. I was just thinking that it would be maximally user friendly if the search tokens were read verbatim and then converted to the same catcode scheme as the contents of \l_tmpa_tl.
@DavidCarlisle Could you write another mail to the TeXlive list, asking whether it would be possible to add debugging symbols for the executeables in the next release? It would make debugging much easier, the developers can expect higher quality bug reports with a full stack trace, and I wouldn't have to compile from source ;)
@HenriMenke I could do, although it's an open list you could post:-) although I noticed while testing the luatex binaries before this release that the unstripped binaries are much bigger (I'd not got the makefile set up right so I was accidentally not stripping at the end) although I must admit didn't look exactly what the makefile strips in that case
@UlrikeFischer -- thanks much. problem has been reported, with a suggestion that it would be a good idea to make sure that the method for delivering the address list is compatible with the printer's method for printing the labels.
I am using a big template to write my master thesis. It's a bit complex to understand but with a nice output, that's why I want to use it even if I don't understand it thoroughly. Unfortunately, I don't manage to solve the following error:
! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> ...docsvlist \e...
^^^ i made a guess as to what might be the problem, and it turned out to be correct. but i don't think posting it as an answer would be helpful to anyone else. so, okay to close this one?
@barbarabeeton well, it would be nice to have such a question since it could be useful to others whose code does not transition well to the new biblatex. But this one is not well stated. I'd zap it ("I'm closing this question as it is answered in comments" works well)
@DavidCarlisle Hi David, today I wanted to use your answer http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/109629/1952 and generate a permutation of a list of numbers. Your code works with all individual commands, but as soon as I use a `foreach` for repeating, the results are not all different. `\declarenumlist{mylist}{1}{10}% list from 1 to 10 inclusive. \foreach \i in {1,...,10}{\pgfmathrandomitem\z{mylist}\z\prunelist{mylist}}` produces 1,3,6,1,8,4,4,9,10,2 (5 and 7 are missing, and 1 and 4 are repetaed) What I'm doing wrong?
@HenriMenke possibly, not my call:-) (I raised that question to check I'd built the right thing, once it was clear it was just stripping making the difference and just because I hadn't followed the instructions correctly it didn't worry me again. If you ask you get replies directly. I don't know the number of people who would be able to use the symbols is probably rather small compared to the number of users (and has a large overlap with people who anyway build from source) but no harm asking.
@Ignasi as far as I recall tikz's for-each has a local group around each iteration so you need to change my code to make global definitions or use a different loop macro
@DavidCarlisle I want to get the class still working, I located a Runaway argument? warning that ma cause the macros such as \degreeprogram not to work:
It is on the point where \thepage was used earlier: the warning stays despite a change in \thepage
@UlrikeFischer I am getting a Runaway argument? warning precisely on that point of \thepage (picture above), is there a missing } or what can cause it?
@TorbjørnT. thank you for guiding, updated Trial 6 here about all discussions to this chat, now a tea pause :)
It seems that Lyx is more reluctant to accept buggy class? Interesting, now to tea -- cannot understand yet everything but forwarded the thread to collegues to get more overview on it.
@yo' -- interesting, very interesting. before you release it, may i have the chance to test it with some ams production stuff? (once it gets loose, i'm pretty sure some ams authors will find it and try to use it, so i'd like to be prepared. also, we've been ignoring the use of eqnarray in submissions -- the downside of "editorial lite" -- so we might actually want to use it; tbd.)
@HenriMenke and then \global\let\endeqnarray*\endalign* which would need like a zillion of \expandafter? That's already messy, and I do dirty stuff with catcodes (inside the package code) anyway, so this doesn't hurt
@DavidCarlisle wow, a new thing learnt every day :) Anyway, it's as it is. I may change it later though. As I say, I need active & anyway and I don't want to change its catcode at the point of loading, so...
Hello, I'm new here, so sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. I've got a question about a warning on a specific document but the document is too large to post as an example. However, to talk about it generally would be a duplicate.
The quesiton is: I have an undefined reference warning after multiple runs of pdflatex and biber, but can't locate the culprit.
@Hugh well put the warning here and we might be able to help, but in general it's always possible to make a small example, just start from a copy of the docuemnt and delete everything that doesn't make the warning go away,
[0] Config.pm:343> INFO - This is Biber 2.5 [0] Config.pm:346> INFO - Logfile is 'b5_palatino_portrait_book.blg' [25] biber-MSWIN64:290> INFO - === [45] Biber.pm:351> INFO - Reading 'b5_palatino_portrait_book.bcf' [160] Biber.pm:776> INFO - Found 428 citekeys in bib section 0 [170] Biber.pm:3493> INFO - Processing section 0 [188] Biber.pm:3657> INFO - Looking for bibtex format file '../bibliography.bib' for section 0 [223] bibtex.pm:1187> INFO - Decoding LaTeX character macros into UTF-8 [257] bibtex.pm:1048> INFO - Found BibTeX data source '../bibliography.bib'
unless you have redefined things latex only makes `There were undefined references` warning at the end if `\G@refundefinedtrue` has been used earlier, and that is always accompanied by a warning `Reference '#3' on page \thepage \space undefined}` or `Citation '\@citeb' on page \thepage \space undefined}` `Citation '\@citeb' undefined` are you sure you get no warnings before that?
So I actually had used the script you provided @DavidCarlisle in the answer you linked to above, if that makes any difference. Apart from that, there are no other matches for warning or undefined in the log file.
@Hugh hmm well biblatex adds a few more places that trigger this but can't really debug this way, as I say you should be able to make a small (< 1 page) example that shows the problem and ask on site.
@HenriMenke Surely the issue there would not be parsing the .bbl (which is quite structured) but the fact that all of the biblatex formatting is done in macros which are rather 'layered' and certainly require LaTeX (at least at reasonable effort)
@HenriMenke The 'plain way' tends to be to avoid external tools/'flexible' set ups in favour of shorter, more targeted macros: I'd image the plain solution to biblatex is to do the job by hand ;-)
@JosephWright Icelandic naming and negative dates in plain. I'm all in. :)
The wonders of user support. "I still don't understand how to get my bibliography single spaced. Here's my code: \DoubleSpacing\bibliography{my_file} " And this person is about to get a PhD in Engineering...
@HenriMenke "Any chance we can have biber support in OPMac?" I don't know if this is just joke... My answer: No. Biber is an example heow to do simple things by complicated way. This is not good inspiration for plain TeX. I hope that you can read my article about OPmac-bib in the last issue of TUGboat.
@DavidCarlisle Your suggested code generates opmac.dvi for all documents of specific user. This is not good idea.
@egreg Well, it's better than it used to be (it seems like they are trying to be at most one version of TL behind...) not like a few years ago when they were seveal iterations behind...
It's actually fun to watch the package names scroll past. For instance, I've just been reminded that there's a package that allows you to typeset the Begriffschrift.
@egreg The thing is, this laptop is designed to be used on the move, so local versions of the docs are actually something I want to have...
@JosephWright building ho-tex/oberdiek again (to make @UlrikeFischer happy) I really should time it it takes what seems like hours (probably more than an hour:(
@JosephWright Well, I couldn't find the laptop I wanted with a larger SSD that wasn't stupid money. I haven't really seen that many 500 gig or larger SSDs on the market...
@Seamus I think 500Gb was something like an extra £50 on top of the price I paid: as it was an urgent repair, not a planned upgrade, I didn't want to find that
Unread postby Johannes_B on Thu Jun 9th, 2016 Simple answer: You cannot squeeze an elephant in a suitcase.
@Johannes_B If the elephant is running fast enough (80% of light speed) the elephant fits (almost) in a very large suitcase, that has thickness of few centimetres ;-)
@yo' Sorry, I don't see what you mean: the formatting is done in LaTeX, it's the data extraction and sorting that's done by the external tool, and the latter in particular is hard
The problem is that I can't, as a journal typesetter, rely on the huge thing called biblatex, I would still prefer having a bib file included, I don't care whether it's the one from an external tool or whether biblatex creates it during typesetting.
@yo' which bit of biblatex is "huge"? the macro side isn't that different to tikz or expl3 or beamer or ... is it? and the binary side is just the biber binary which is what it is?
@yo' sorry I don't understand, why do you not care about the complexity of bibtex styles if you want to keep with bibtex over biblatex on complexity grounds?
@yo' I think I'll stop, but honestly I don't understand the issue at all, bibtex makes a file input to latex and so does biber, they just get handled slightly differently but it's not an external/internal thing.
@DavidCarlisle Well with bibtex you can create bbl-files of e.g. single articles and then later copy them in the source or \input them at will. This makes it sometimes easier to manipulate the bibliography and to handle a combination of article. (But imho the features of biber is worth it)
@UlrikeFischer @DavidCarlisle I guess what @yo' is looking for is exactly that functionality added to biblatex. This is what he means by externalization. This way publishers can keep their legacy systems (for which they have good reasons to keep) and users can produce documents using their own up-to-date systems.
@AlanMunn The one carefully watching the computer screen vainly trying to make a sense out of what's on it is the real one. There's also the name on the desk.
Oxford has instructions to set up CLS file for Lyx here so this thread for Aalto uni. So
How can you use Aalto custom CLS file in Lyx?
Aalto files
CLS file (copy here)
Aalto Thesis LaTex template
Given that the style you need to use disallows using natbib, the conclusion is that the organization you'll submit your paper to doesn't accept an author-year citation scheme. Most likely also biblatex would be rejected.
Emulating the working of natbib would mean rewriting it from scratch.
When I define a \newcommand over multiple lines, I get unwanted white space in my output.
How do I make it so I can write a long command, but still make it readable, without getting the extra white spaces?
My current solution is just to write everything without line breaks, but that's not ver...
