TeX, LaTeX and Friends

lockstep

12:00 AM

@egreg Upvoted.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Yay upvoted!

lockstep

@egreg I wonder why exactly Martin accepted PLK's answer on the Beethoven question. Does he want to treat the "van" prefix different than "von"?

You're right, one should be consistent when citing and sorting.

egreg

@lockstep It's a good answer, of course. Probably Martin has that kind of problem. But I'd be very angry with an author who cites "von Aachen" and then sorts the corresponding entry under A in a long bibliography.

Paulo Cereda

I was tempted to post the following comment: "The fifth symphony is now playing inside your head. Pam-pam-pam-pam!"

lockstep

12:20 AM

Beethoven tells his charwoman: "You know, the tunes you're humming ... some of them are really inspiring!" And the charwoman answers: "Me inspring you? Come on, this is ridiculous! Ha-ha-ha-ho!"

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Paulo Cereda

@lockstep LOL!

lockstep

That's the true story of Beethoven's Fifth. ;-)

(And an example of a joke that should be told, not written.)

@MartinScharrer Can you change the "Ha-ha-ha-ha" to "Ha-ha-ha-ho"?

Paulo Cereda

Justin Bieber vs. Beethoven.

Andrew Stacey

11:33 AM

@Werner (commenting here rather than on your meta answer about images to keep that "clean" as it is intended for the FAQ). I've modified the bit in your answer about "image description". Your phrasing makes it sound as though the image description isn't very important but actually having an alt attribute on img tags is extremely important for accessibility and text-only contexts, so I edited that in. Hope that's okay.

Paulo Cereda

1:27 PM

@egreg: there's a surprise for you in the mailbox. :)

Joseph Wright

1:42 PM

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Q: Use first row of a table as legend entry in pgfplot graph?

I'm using pgfplots extensively and I'd like to avoid having to write legends every time, since all the text files I want to plot have explicit headers. As a comparison, \pgfplotstabletypeset makes a nice table instantly with my data, and I'm looking for a similar way to get graphs in an easier w...

pgfplots

Deserves a few more votes, I think :-)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Indeed. I'll upvote it as soon as they give my votes back. :P

wh1t3

2:14 PM

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Q: overfull vbox caused by % !TeX root

As mentioned in the TeXworks documentation and in these two questions, a master file can be defined by adding % !TeX root = master.tex as first line to every subfile. This works for TeXshop and TeXworks. But if I compile from command line or from Texmaker, I get a undefull vbox for each of th...

line-breaking warnings texworks texmaker

that seems unlikely...

Paulo Cereda

@wh1t3 wow, you beat me for 5 seconds. :) I was gonna comment the very same thing. :)

wh1t3

@PauloCereda: Great minds think alike ;)

Paulo Cereda

@wh1t3 Yay! :D

wh1t3

And, apparently so do ours :)

Paulo Cereda

2:30 PM

@wh1t3 Oh. :)

lockstep

2:56 PM

@JosephWright If you say so ... ;-)

Andrew Stacey

3:08 PM

Here's an "answered in comments":

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Q: How do I put chapters into a LaTeX document?

I used the following LaTeX tag to make a chapter \chapter{title here} but it did not compile. The LaTeX compiler was talking about Undefined control sequence How can I get over this error?

chapters

egreg

@AndrewStacey Reading a minimal guide is too difficult. Sometimes I wonder whether people is able to read, nowadays.

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Andrew Stacey

@egreg Ho hum. That's how it goes.

Paulo Cereda

amazon.com/Manga-Guide-Calculus-Hiroyuki-Kojima/dp/1593271948

Perhaps a Manga Guide to LaTeX. :(

egreg

@AndrewStacey Did you see the question about using \NewEnviron for defining a command "and circumventing around a limitation of LyX"? Amazing.

Paulo Cereda

I can't find a quantum computing book in my shelf. Perhaps the book is and isn't there at the same time.

wh1t3

3:22 PM

@PauloCereda: Do you perhaps have a lot of information regarding the momentum of the book?

Paulo Cereda

@wh1t3 good point! I should perhaps stop looking. :)

Bruno Le Floch

@PauloCereda drawn in Tikz.

egreg

@PauloCereda Call the Schrödinger cat! It's quite good in catching quantum mice, but also in finding quantum books. However you should know that St. Anthony of Padua is the saint of reference for lost things. :)

lockstep

@AndrewStacey Well, as there's no "too basic" reason to close it, perhaps we should ask Mike Renfo to provide an answer.

Paulo Cereda

@BrunoLeFloch Indeed. :D

@egreg LOL! Speaking of Schrödinger, there's a nice scene from Futurama where he's arrested. My mom told me a prayer in Italian for asking St. Anthony's help on finding lost things, I believe it's the responsory.

egreg

3:32 PM

Si quaeris miracula, / mors, error, calamitas, / demon, lepra fugiunt / aegri surgunt sani.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Yes this one! :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Well, it's Latin!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Ah I meant the responsory. :) We recite it in Portuguese. The prayer my mom taught me is this short one, "Santo Antonio, mio avvocato, innocente, casto e puro. Quem ti invoca può stare sicuro di stare sempre consolato, Santo Antonio, mio avvocato."

egreg

@PauloCereda :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg It took me a while to remember it by heart. :P

lockstep

3:44 PM

I was only waiting for this literal duplicate to arrive at tex.sx. Please close and delete:

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Q: LaTeX: giving headlines a backgroundcolor spanning across the entire typearea

I would like to decorate my headlines (section, subsection, etc.) by adding a background color. I would like this box filled with a single solid color to span across the entire typearea. The picture at http://imagebin.org/191719 is a screenshot of an OpenOffice document where the headline has th...

untagged

Paulo Cereda

@lockstep voted. :)

Werner

@AndrewStacey Thanks for the clarification of my post. Do you update all your images with the appropriate alt tags?

Andrew Stacey

@Werner If I said "Yes", I'd be laying myself open to someone combing through my posts and finding the times when I haven't. Certainly, I try to do so but it's not always easy to think of a good description so many of mine are "TikZ picture of X".

Werner

@lockstep That's crazy!

lockstep

@Werner There should be a way to prevent migrations if a nearly identical question already exists at the target site. ("Nearly" is the hard part -- our original question had already a screenshot edited in, while the SO question didn't.)

Alan Munn

3:57 PM

@AndrewStacey That's very noble of you. Mine just say "output of code", and I think I'm doing my part. :-)

Paulo Cereda

4:15 PM

Question: how do I pronounce TikZ? Is it like "ticks"?

Torbjørn T.

@PauloCereda I say tick-zee.

Paulo Cereda

@TorbjørnT Ah good idea! :)

Torbjørn T.

@PauloCereda (I'm not sure if I've ever spoken it out loud though, it doesn't come up in conversation very often ...)

Paulo Cereda

@TorbjørnT Ah I see. :) I was just curious about a possible pronunciation. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda That's what I'd say

Torbjørn T.

4:23 PM

@PauloCereda By the way, river-valley.tv/…

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda We've had this discussion before. There seem to be quite a few variants. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/41?m=2411002#2411002

But among English speakers, "tick zee" seems to be the predominant one.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn I have some sort of brain damage, I even added my contribution to the discussion. :P

I'll go with something similar to Yahtzee. :D

Andrew Stacey

5:01 PM

"ticks"

Paulo Cereda

@AndrewStacey Ah! :)

Alan Munn

@AndrewStacey Not surprisingly there's a British/American split on the pronunciation. You and Joseph seem to prefer "ticks", but I think most American speakers (and in this respect I include myself here) seem to prefer "tick zee". Since "zee" isn't an option for you as a pronunciation of the letter Z, and "tick zed" sounds odd, I suppose. (It does to me, despite being a "zed" speaker myself.)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn We need to take care when choosing package names. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Indeed. I get siunitx written many ways, so do wonder how people pronounce it! I get to decide here, and it's 's-i-unit-ex' :-)

egreg

5:18 PM

@JosephWright And newunicodechar ends with "kar". There's a tendency to pronounce "char" (when it's the abbreviated form of "character") with "ch" as in "chew"; I hear it all the times from computer science students at my department. :(

lockstep

Questions are coming in fast today, it seems. 28 so far ...

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Cool, so I'm pronouncing it right! :) A friend of mine said, "see-you-neat-techs" :P

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda There is a logic to my approach :-) siunitx is conceptually an extension of SIunits, which is pretty clearly pronounced s-i-units, so the x is just 'ex' and the rest follows naturally.

egreg

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Q: Directly embedded images

I'd like to embed a image (e.g. JPG, PNG) directly in my document. In HTML it's possible with a base64-encoded src attribute. <img src="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgokIA..." /> Is this also possible in latex?

graphics embedding

Another one that can't read. :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Here too! TBH I could not find a proper Portuguese word equivalent to "character". :P

@JosephWright It makes sense. :)

egreg

5:26 PM

@PauloCereda Don't you say "caráter"?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Brilliant! That's the word I'd use! A mathematician friend of mine suggested me this word and I started using it. Unfortunately, I had peer-pressure to use - oh my - "caractere". :(

@AlanMunn: can I use "caráter" to refer to "char/character"?

egreg

@PauloCereda What does the dictionary say?

Has anybody seen hanoid.tex on CTAN?

It's the "nice code month"!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg You are correct! "forma gráfica de cada um dos símbolos ou sinais utilizados na escrita." :D

@AlanMunn: update: the dictionary says I can. :P

percusse

My thesis preamble is slowly becoming a chapter by itself... "A little skip here if this happens, math abbreviation should be typed as such, chapter format needs a tweak..."

I have chosen memoir for no particular reason and do you think I would regret it? :)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse that's the most important part of your thesis. Forget about content, the layout and typesetting matter! :D

percusse

5:37 PM

@PauloCereda This is way beyond procrastination. This is simply addiction.

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Indeed! :)

Canageek

Hello all

Happy New Year

I have an odd question

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Q: How do I make biblatex-chicago flow from one page to the next more often?

I've noticed four things when writing my current essay: LaTeX will automatically cause your title to be moved to the next page to avoid having the title and paragraph on separate pages This on occasion leaves a really annoying amount of whitespace on a page, which is doubling annoying when you ...

biblatex chicago-style

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek Happy New Year!

Canageek

The answer given does not work as written. But if you remove \DeclareNewFottnote{default} then it does

I submitted an edit commenting out that line. Is that the correct thing to do?

Also, when should I accept the answer?

Torbjørn T.

@Canageek Fott should be Foot I suppose.

Canageek

5:44 PM

slams his head into the table about 16 times

Not the worst problem I've had like that: There was a misspelling in a documents manual that cost me 30 min once.

Right, can someone deny my edit?

While I test his solution again?

egreg

@PauloCereda And what about "caractere"?

Canageek

However the output from those two runs is visually identical, that is \DeclareNewFootnote{default} doesn't seem to do anything

Paulo Cereda

@egreg "caractere" is a more widely accepted form, but it seems to be condemned by some linguists, as it's a neologism that got into the language. I'd go with "caráter". :)

Canageek

Anyone care to explain what it does?

Also: Excellent, I'm up to a 91% accept rate. Also: It seems unfair that I lose accept rate for questions with no answers yet.

Andrew Stacey

@AlanMunn Reminds me of the problems I had filling in my 1040-EZ forms in the US.

lockstep

5:56 PM

@Canageek That's not correct.

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Q: How does accept rate work?

What is accept rate? Why doesn't accept rate always appear? How is the accept rate calculated? What does "accepting an answer" mean? How do I do it? Related: How does accepting an answer work? Return to FAQ index

support faq accept-rate

Canageek

@lockstep rechecks list OH, there WAS one I haven't accepted. Goes to fix that

AND fixed.

Marco Daniel

@egreg: Can you help me by the explanation? I know the problem but I don't know the correct solution. [Here the problem](http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/39867/intextsep-gives-doubled-space):
In the comment I showed the problem with the beginning of `example` with the following first line: `\ifvmode\addvspace{\baselineskip}\else Here I am\fi`. But is it possible to test whether the preenvironment was a float?

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda I have no opinion on this matter. (I don't even know what the issue is.)

egreg

@MarcoDaniel The explanation seems sensible: in order that two \addvspace merge, it's necessary that nothing is in the vertical list between them. Of course a box boundary is out of the question. And it's useless to ask whether the preceding environment is a float: it will never be, if it's a float (i.e., can't honor an [h] option). Floats are placed when environments and commands have been long digested by TeX.

Canageek

BLINK

hatdash.com

It seems Gaming.SX is having fun for Christmas

Alan Munn

6:09 PM

@egreg I don't see anything wrong with this. Neither pronunciation matches the pronunciation of "character" anyway, since the vowels in the two words are necessarily different. In English, words that begin with "ch" and are pronounced "k" are very rare (character, Christ (and its derivatives), chameleon are about the only commonly used ones) and the word "char" already exists with a "ch" pronunciation.

egreg

@AlanMunn But "char" means quite a different thing.

Marco Daniel

@egreg I had the same in my mind (Based on the great answer of Frank Mittelbach). In relation to this I have no chance by changing the internals of mdframed to solve this problem.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn I couldn't find a proper Portuguese word for character - the representation of a symbol. People here used both "caracter" and "caractere", both neologisms now incorporated to the language, although many linguists oppose to this use. I had an advice to use "caráter" instead - which is in fact the right word to use according to the dictionary - but people seem to be reluctant in accepting this word for the "symbol" meaning. :)

egreg

@MarcoDaniel I guess it's something to be taken care of during the final revision, by inserting a negative vspace if needed.

lockstep

@MarcoDaniel I guess this problem (handling of vertical spacing) will only be solved in LaTeX3.

egreg

6:14 PM

@JosephWright How do you pronounce the LaTeX3 commands that start with \char_?

Joseph Wright

@egreg I have to say that I tend to go with 'char' not 'kar', in the same way I'd pronounce \charcode as 'char-code' not 'kar-code'

@AlanMunn I feel 'chemist', 'chemistry', etc. are common

Marco Daniel

@lockstep Switching to LaTeX 3 is a little bit early. At the moment I am learning tikz and write some blog post of @JosephWright for the "TeXnische Komödie" to learn the new syntax.

Paulo Cereda

I'd love to listen to a "three" pronunciation of "LaTeX3" like Ernest Thesiger said "The Bride of Frankenstein". :P

Joseph Wright

@MarcoDaniel I need to write some more. It's all a question of time. I have a LaTeX course to run on Friday, for a start!

Marco Daniel

@JosephWright Where?

Joseph Wright

6:17 PM

@MarcoDaniel London

Marco Daniel

@JosephWright Only two hours by plane ;-)

Do you provide any presentation or do you working with small articles (Skript in German)

Alan Munn

@JosephWright Oops. Forgot about them.

@egreg Sure, of course it does, but homophony isn't usually a problem in language generally, since syntactic context will almost always decide. (In this case it certainly does).

Andrew Stacey

6:39 PM

Anyone want any snow? We have rather a lot of it here. (collection only)

Werner

@AndrewStacey Although I'm not up for any collection of the fluffy white stuff soon, we have aqueducts of water pouring from the sky over here.

Andrew Stacey

@Werner I must admit I'd rather snow than rain. However, in this quantity I'd rather sunshine. Tomorrow looks like being one of those days where the first job is to figure out which lump of snow has the car under it.

Werner

@AndrewStacey Ha ha! In that respect I can definitely see why you prefer something other than the status quo.

Joseph Wright

@MarcoDaniel All of the material we use is available: github.com/uktug/latex-beginners-course

Paulo Cereda

@AndrewStacey I'd love some snow. For... scientific reasons. :) The air conditioner can't take it any longer. :)

Alan Munn

6:50 PM

@Werner How many times a year do actually get any snow?

Marco Daniel

@JosephWright Wow I will have a look ;-) Thanks.

Paulo Cereda

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Q: On Russian roulette, should you always go first?

Assume that we are playing a game of Russian roulette (6 chambers). Assume that there is no shuffling after the shot is fired. I was wondering if you have an advantage in going first? If so, how big of an advantage? I was just debating this with friends, and I wouldn't know what probability to...

probability

Werner

@AlanMunn Maybe once... :-|

Alan Munn

@Werner That's what I thought. And it's gone the next day, I bet.

Werner

7:07 PM

@AlanMunn If it's here now, then it's usually gone tomorrow. That's right...

Paulo Cereda

►

Joseph Wright

@MarcoDaniel Slide content originally by Nicola Talbot, heavily revised by me. Each time we do the course I think of some changes to make

Marco Daniel

@JosephWright A small hint: There are a miktex version for unix: miktex.org/unx . I have never tested it.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright I promised a PT-BR translation. I'll work on it in the end of the month. :)

Marco Daniel

@JosephWright KOMA provides also scrlttr2 a new letter class. Sorry for the correction. I hope you will not angry.

Paulo Cereda

7:16 PM

This one is new to me: graphicsmagick.org

Joseph Wright

7:44 PM

@MarcoDaniel I'm aware of that, but it's not really supported and at best is a 'experimenters' tool

@MarcoDaniel I've not claimed to be comprehensive :-)

Alan Munn

Typography hell. Courtesy of my department.

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(The original is a PDF)

Canageek

blink

Does anyone else follow the ctan-ann RSS feed?

mail-archive.com/ctan-ann@dante.de/msg04528.html

Alan Munn

@Canageek Yes.

Canageek

@AlanMunn Am I reading that entry right? Creates a 100 page fireworks display?

Torbjørn T.

@Canageek See the PDF: ftp.fagskolen.gjovik.no/pub/tex-archive/macros/plain/contrib/…

Werner

7:50 PM

@Canageek If you PgDn fast enough.

Canageek

Huh, nice. I am so not printing that off for a flip book. I think it would work a touch better with a bit more colour though.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn Could we beat them? :)

Canageek

@AlanMunn I have a worse one if you want to see. It isn't on the internet though, it is slides from a class that I want to enter in a 'worst powerpoint' contest

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda I also received an e-mail today from someone that was (non-ironically) in Comic Sans. That's a first.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn Really?! Good Lord.

Canageek

7:57 PM

@AlanMunn @PauloCereda I've seen comic sans used in scientific presentations. Comic sans is not default for powerpoint. Yes, that is right. They switched powerpoints font to comic sans for a professional presentation when attempting to get more beamtime.

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda I couldn't believe my eyes. And it was a totally serious and professional e-mail. Not spam and sent specifically to me.

Joseph Wright

@AlanMunn Plain text is the way to deal with this :-)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn People sometimes push the limits of coherence. :(

@JosephWright Not to mention people that use background images in their mail. :P

Alan Munn

@JosephWright Yes, I must have changed my Eudora preferences at some point, but never noticed it before since most people don't bother to specify a font in their mail, I think.

Joseph Wright

@AlanMunn You obviously don't get mails from people using our work Exchange server :-)

lockstep

8:05 PM

@Werner As you answered the newest "section numbering" question, please have a look at the question that I pointed to as "exact duplicate of". Perhaps you can suggest a more general title (or point out why the new question isn't in fact a duplicate).

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda That preference I've got turned off. No images are displayed for me unless I choose to see them.

Werner

@lockstep I agree that the new question is a duplicate. I also voted to close. Your answer in the reference focusses on figure, and mentions something about table, footnote...

Canageek

I have it as a button in Thunderbird, so that I can turn images back on easily, but am not vunerable to remote image tracking. Actually it does that by default. Offers around copies of thunderbird in a shady manner

@Werner Couldn't you just merge the answers?

Werner

...these are perhaps "other document elements".

Not sure whether it is clear from your answer that it could work when intermixing sectional elements. Perhaps, not everyone things the same about floats and environments compared to chapters/sections/etc.

lockstep

@Werner Perhaps I should add a paragraph explaining that this also works for coupling/decoupling sectioning counters from other sectioning counters.

Werner

8:11 PM

@Canageek Perhaps?

@lockstep Sure! What about merging? I have no idea what that involves, or whether that is good/bad in this situation.

@JosephWright: What's the benefit/drawback of merging in this situation?

Joseph Wright

@Werner Merging means all of the answers appear under a single question, and the other question effectively vanishes

lockstep

@JosephWright I'd prefer not to merge in this case. @Werner provided a complete solution for a specific case. My Q/A rather tries to restrict itself to two short "didactic" MWE's plus code snippets for other cases. I will add a paragraph with code snippets for sectioning counters.

Joseph Wright

@lockstep We've had very few merges, and it would need a good case for us to do one, I think

Paulo Cereda

Suggestion: what if we come up with the "Nine circles of Typography hell"? It would be a nice blog post.

Werner

@PauloCereda I'm thinking it will include a large amount of blurred content as well; to keep the offenders from being identified.

@lockstep Sounds good.

@lockstep Sorry for raining on your sectional parade there. When I read through the post I thought that this might be the case. That is, that it may seem logical that sectioning is different from "other document elements" like floats, footnotes, etc.

lockstep

8:20 PM

@Werner I agree -- it must be stated explicitly that one can also, e.g., couple \chapter to \part, and decouple \section from \chapter.

Paulo Cereda

Kids, ComicSans is bad mkay? Using it in your document is bad, mkay?

Werner

@PauloCereda Mr Mackey! mkay...

Paulo Cereda

@Werner LOL! :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda There's a church near me that has a sign which would qualify. I'll snap a picture of it one of these days.

Paulo Cereda

8:38 PM

@AlanMunn Please do. :) It will be interesting. :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda I cringe every time I pass by it. And I'm sure that they were so proud of it when the put it up.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn "Repent for the end is near!" :)

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda No, it's not one of those. It's just the sign for the church itself. (When everyone drives, churches need signs.)

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn Ah I see. :) We could change the text to "Honk if this sign has bad typography." :)

@AlanMunn: Every time when my community wants to raise money, they write pamphlets. They abuse with ComicSans texts and WordArt's.

Joseph Wright

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Q: How to output an error?

I have searched the web and stack exchange but couldn't really find something. I know I can use \typeout to display a text in the compilation log. How can I do the same for an error? How can I tell TeX to output an error which would result in a compile exit code 1? I would use it to handle exc...

errors output

Duplicate of the question I've linked to?

Alan Munn

8:50 PM

@JosephWright Yes, I would think so.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright I think so.

@AlanMunn: I wrote a nice color scheme for beamer. I guess the name will be arara. :)

Yiannis Lazarides

@AlanMunn I had a look at your newsletter image. IMHO besides the typography the English could do with a bit of a massage as well.

egreg

This is the craziest thing I've seen in a few years

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Q: Unbalanced braces with newenvironment / NewEnviron + Command

This is a follow-up question of my Unbalanced braces with newenvironment / NewEnviron post. The gist is that by using \NewEnviron{myEnv}{% \expandafter\gdef\expandafter\myCommand\expandafter{\BODY}% \aftergroup\bgroup} I can expand \begin{myEnv} 0.3 \end{myEnv} text2} to \gdef\myComman...

macros environments braces

Paulo Cereda

@egreg I'm totally lost. :) LyX is causing brain damage, it seems. :)

The only thing I know: that question seems evil.

Alan Munn

9:05 PM

@YiannisLazarides I don't notice anything glaring. And I'm sure that most of the text was provided by the speaker himself.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg: couldn't a "hack" like that break the other macros?

egreg

@PauloCereda I don't understand why one should do something like that. It's almost unthinkable.

@Werner Your "double rule" is quite complicated, isn't it? :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg I'm still lost. Unbalanced braces seem wrong. :)

Werner

@egreg Well, now that you've added some flair, yes... somewhat.

egreg

@Werner Experience with Plain TeX. :)

Werner

9:13 PM

@egreg Yes, it is much cleaner. Well, I believe in options. It depends on what @YiannisLazarides feels comfortable with.

Paulo Cereda

The best Brazilian goalkeeper retired today. :(

egreg

@Werner Sometimes a low level hack is much neater than the LaTeX way. I particularly don't like \rule: \hrule and \vrule are more flexible.

@PauloCereda Who's he? Taffarel?

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Close, it's Marcos. :) He was the goalkeeper in the 2002 World Cup and played his whole career in Palmeiras. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Go, Palmeiras! Hey, almost 20 years!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg :) And he is a nice fellow, very humble. Even the rival teams like him a lot.

lockstep

9:59 PM

@JosephWright, @Werner I updated my "numbering" Q/A.

(Although waiting until tomorrow would have netted some reputation. Oh well.)

Werner

@lockstep I can only upvote once...

lockstep

@Werner I was wondering if I should add tags like sectioning and equations to the question, but then I refrained from it for now.

Werner

@lockstep I wonder... perhaps you could rephrase the question (or title) - since tags are associated with the question and not the answer(s) - just a little so that it incorporates that. Or would that be too much modification "after the fact"?

lockstep

@Werner I'm open for suggestions, although I normally want to be as concise as possible. :-)

egreg

@lockstep I found out the "correct" answer to the "blue rule on next page" question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/39825/… The joy of Javier's manuals. :)

lockstep

10:13 PM

@egreg I noticed, and will upvote it as soon as I can. But "identical" answers are strongly discouraged -- I suggest you add instead a linked comment to the OP's (first) question as well as to my answer. I will upvote the comments so that they are prominently visible.

@egreg Even better, I will add a link to your (new) answer in my answer.

egreg

@lockstep I'm open to suggestions. Should I delete the answer?

lockstep

@egreg Yes. (The one in the original question, that is.) I've already added links to the follow-up question and your answer there.

Werner

@lockstep I agree with the "identical"-ness.

egreg

@lockstep Done

lockstep

@egreg And I've learned something new about the difference between \color and \textcolor. I'm feeling like @PauloCereda now -- I need a "to be upvoted" list. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

10:27 PM

@lockstep Yay! :)

egreg

@PauloCereda What do you do when your "to be upvoted list" has more than 40 entries?

2

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Good question! I have another list - that happens to be a 'first in first out' queue. So that's the list to be in the upvoted list. :)

Werner

10:42 PM

@PauloCereda Sounds like list-ception to me...

lockstep

And the 40th question for today just arrived ...

Paulo Cereda

@Werner :)

Werner

@egreg ...and there you used \rule! :)

lockstep

11:12 PM

It's a duplicate!

0

Q: Symbol or dingbat of a calculator?

I looked all over but could not find anything. Is there a package out there that has a symbol/dingbat of a calculator? I know there probably isn't, but I've seen much stranger stuff out there before...

symbols

(Or isn't it?)

Werner

@lockstep Of what?

egreg

@Werner And didn't use \offinterlineskip (which is more efficient than \baselineskip=0pt

lockstep

@Werner I had this question in mind, but it seems I was wrong:

65

Q: How to look up a math symbol?

I know what my math symbol looks like, but I don't know what the command is. How do I go about finding this out?

mathmode symbols

Werner

@lockstep That was my thought also, but Scott Pakin says different.

lockstep

@Werner Okay, another question to be upvoted.

Werner

11:19 PM

I'm wondering whether this is a job for OpenClipart?

Paulo Cereda

11:29 PM

Worst calculator drawing ever.

But it's environmentally friendly.

Werner

That's great!

Paulo Cereda

:P

Werner

It seems like one would only be able to go up to about 9999 on that one.

Turn this into a font element (or symbol), embed it somewhere and post it as an answer. He he!

Paulo Cereda

@Werner Low budget. :P

@Werner I could export the drawing to a TikZ drawing, surround it by a newcommand and there we go. :P

Werner

@PauloCereda And you'll use xparse, right? That is, surround it by a \NewDocumentCommand.

Paulo Cereda

11:36 PM

@Werner Yes! I used it for the first time yesterday. :) It's a great command. :)

Werner

@PauloCereda Baby steps...

Paulo Cereda

@Werner I'd say larval steps. :P

Speaking of calculators, fun fact: A long time ago I bought a calculator. After the first use, I noted the calculator had an on button, but no off. And the calculator didn't turn off in any circumstance. I read the manual, searched the Internet, but no luck. I decided to contact HP about it. The tech support told me, "don't worry, this model never turns off." And it's true, the calculator never turns off. :D

Werner

@PauloCereda Never? Why would they have an on button then if it's only good for one-time use? :-/

Paulo Cereda

@Werner Indeed! Thankfully it's the AC one. But it's a strange layout. :)

Found it in the internet. IT's this one. :)

Martin Scharrer

11:57 PM

\begin{equation}
    P_\text{Tout}(l,w) = \frac{ \sum\limits_{k=l}^{\min(8,13-l-w)}
  \dbinom{13-l-w}{k}
  \dbinom{10+l+w}{7-k}
}{
  \dbinom{23}{7}
}
\end{equation}

Quick question: Is there an easy way to enlarge the sum symbol here?

It is so small compared to the two \dbinoms

Paulo Cereda

@MartinScharrer What if you put \displaystyle in front of \sum?

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