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Q: Was Yajnesvara the only Indra in Svayambhuva Manvantara?

SuryaIn Srimad Bhagavatam (the treasure from which so many questions arise!), the story of Maharaja Prthu is described in the Fourth Canto, Chapters 15 to 23. In Chapters 19 and 20 is described the story of Prthu's 100 Ashvamedha Yajnas. According to this story, Prthu had performed 99 Yajnas, causing ...

 
I think you'll strenuously object to this, but the Matsya Purana says "The rule of the king Prithu continued till the end of the Chakshusa Manvantara." indianscriptures.com/Content/Articles/PDFs/23204/… I'm not sure what Manvantara Prithu was born in, though.
 
I don't know what to make of that. That would make him a tottering old man of 168,69,60,000 years. Approx 169 crore years. What would he be doing sitting on earth for so long though... no wonder the Bhagavatam describes him leaving the world with great happiness.
 
I don't think he necessarily lived that long. He may have been born in a later Manvantara.
 
He was Dhruva's great grandson... so definitely he was born in Svayambhuva.
 
Well, one or more of his ancestors might have also lived across Manvantaras.
 
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I have never seen this across Manvantaras thing for any other king... so what makes Svayambhuva Manu's descendants so special? Anyways, the point is did Yajnesvara - ohh, that's why this Manvantara problem is going on. To find out which Indra it was.
 
Yeah, if Prithu lived until the end of the Chakshusha Manvantara, it could have been Mantradruma/Ajagava who stole his horse.
 
But if it were so, surely Shukabrahmarshi would have mentioned it? During the course of the listing of Manus at least?
 
No, in the Puranas Vyasa doesn't really focus on incidents that were done by previous Indras. In the listing of Manus, the only incidents Vyasa discusses are the stories of the Manvantara Avataras, like Hari son of Harita, Vamana, Yagna, etc.
 
Not the Indra thing. The fact that Prthu lived for 169 crore years.
 
Well, like I said I don't think it's necessarily true that he lived that long; he could have been born later. In any case, in the listing of Manus Vyasa doesn't discuss the length of the rule of human kings at all.
 
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Another interesting thing is Indra is referred to as Hari. And I think it is because here Hari means, the thief..
He is also referred to as Marutvan, which means the Marudganas were born already, which is coincidentally the previous chapter of the Matsya Purana chapter you linked.
You know
a clue is given in the next chapter
Vishnu is called Vaikuntha. Vaikuntha is the incarnation of Raivata Manvantara.
 
@Surya Yeah, that's a possibility.
 
But aside this, why is Indra always shown so much leniency?
I mean, the only place where he was punished, (that too by himself not by others) was after Vrtra's moksa.
 
@Surya Another interesting thing to note is that Dattatreya came to Prithu's Ashwamedha Yagna: vedabase.com/en/sb/4/19/6 But Dattatreya was born in the tenth Mahayuga of the Vaivasvata Manvantara; see my question here:
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Q: Why does each incarnation of Vishnu need an "officiating priest"?

Keshav SrinivasanThis chapter of the Matsya Purana enumerates various incarnations that Vishnu has taken during the course of the Vaivasvata Manvantara (i.e. the present Manvantara). But along with each incarnation, it also lists an "officiating priest". Here are the priests listed for the different incarnation...

@Surya Perhaps Vishnu took another Dattatreya incarnation in an earlier Manvantara.
 
WHAAT?
I don't think that is correct...
 
@Surya You don't think what is correct?
 
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He is listed sixth in the Bhagavatam by Sauti, and later he is talked about fourth by Brahma, both times before talking about Prthu as well as Dhruva
So Dattatreya was born in the Svayambhuva Manvantara.
 
@Surya Then perhaps there are multiple Dattatreyas.
 
That may or may not be.
Because Dattatreya means, Datta the son of Atri.
How many times will Atri beget a son called 'Datta', who is an avatara of Vishnu?
 
@Surya Well, first of all, this previous Datta may not have been the son of Atri. Second of all, Atri was reborn as the son of someone other than Brahma in the Vaivasvata Manvantara, due to a curse. All the Manasaputras of Brahma were reborn in the Vaivasvata Manvantara as the sons of other people
@Surya So two different births of Atri could have had two different sons called Dattatreya.
 
He was a son of Atri, otherwise he couldn't be called Dattatreya. :-|
Come on.
Even you don't buy that.
BTW, what was the curse?
 
@Surya I'm talking about the reference to Datta in Prithu's Yagna. That Datta could have been the son of someone other than Atri.
@Surya I think they were cursed by Shiva, but I forget the details. It's mentioned in numerous Puranas.
 
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@Surya I just found the story of the rebirth in the Brahmanda Purana: indianscriptures.com/Content/Articles/PDFs/20142/…
@Surya So they were cursed by Shiva and then they were reborn in the Yagna of Varuna in the Vaivasvata Manvantara.
 
@KeshavSrinivasan By the way, is this sacrifice Varuna's famous Rajasuya?
 
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@Surya I'm not sure about that.
@Surya I still need to find a description for you of Varuna's Rajasuya Yagna from the Brahmanas of the Vedas.
@Surya By the way, the Skanda Purana excerpt linked to in the answer I just posted to your question also describes the rebirth of sages in the Vaivasvata Manvantara:
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A: When did Parvati Devi marry Shiva?

Keshav SrinivasanHere is what Shiva tells Parvati in this excerpt from the Prabhasa Khanda of the Skanda Purana: In this Varaha Kalpa, O goddess, you became Parvati obtained by Himavan through his penance, when the Chakshusha Manvantara has passed off. O beautiful lady, due to the anger of Daksha you had to ...

 

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