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A: Should I stop pirating TV in order to better role model for my toddler?

ErikIf you want her to have a strong moral compass, you'll have to explain (when she is old enough) why you do it and let her make up her own mind. As you say, a lot of people do it. Often, this means that a lot of people don't consider it to be much of a crime. That also means it's a very interesti...

 
Hmm. I don't want to refute your premise, but discussing why you break the law with a child is not likely to help her moral "compass"; it's more likely to help her to pick and choose which laws she wants to break. We all break laws, but we should call a spade a spade, I believe.
 
@anongoodnurse Morals are an individual's compass for right and wrong. Laws are society's, and are therefore based on ethics, not morals.
 
@TylerH - Note that the OP already thinks it's wrong. That puts it squarely into the "morals" category. Also, ethics are inextricably intertwined with morals.
 
Just because it's against the law, doesn't mean it's wrong. If you want your child to establish a real moral compass, she needs to be allowed (and encouraged) to think about the hard questions, like why laws exist, why the actions they prevent might be morally problematic and even whether or not the law is simply wrong itself. Just because her moral compass might not point in the same direction as your own as a parent, doesn't mean her's is invalid. Morality is hardly objective.
 
@anongoodnurse It's not fair for you to abuse moderator powers to delete my comment response and then ex post facto edit your earlier comment after the edit timer expired without giving me the same opportunity. My point is that, even though morals and ethics are related, they are two distinct things, and your original comment conflates them.
 
8:29 PM
@TylerH - when you talk about rape and other offensive crimes, it's my job as a moderator to delete your comments. Comments are evanescent, and you can always take this to chat.
 
@anongoodnurse Do you have a specific meta discussion or Help Center page that explains how listing laws based on ethical premises in an academic context by which to simply show how morality is not the same thing as ethics is not allowed simply because the topic could become a sensitive one if it were used in an off-topic manner? it's not like I was defending or attacking the legality of any of those laws. They were simply historical examples of ethics-based laws.
@anongoodnurse I will abandon this chat room so we can talk in here
Per my comment
@anongoodnurse Please join me in chat so you can try to explain how my comments were offensive. — TylerH 5 mins ago
 
@TylerH Huh? "a specific meta discussion or Help Center page that explains how listing laws based on ethical premises in an academic context by which to simply show how morality is not the same thing as ethics..." My head is spinning.
 
You are claiming that my comments were offensive
 
You're making this way too complicated. I asked you not to raise heavily charged issues.
 
I disagree that I am "raising them"
I'm not opening up the debate for or against the morality of any of the topics I mentioned
 
8:35 PM
As they were. Cannibalism, slavery, rape... etc. are incendiary issues. If you continue, I will block you from commenting.
 
So I can't even mention the words on Parenting.SE?
No historical attribution whatsoever?
 
Not in the context you have, in the thread you have.
 
(First, let me clarify, you're saying "not in the context you have, nor in the thread you have" or "not in the context you have, but in the thread you have")
 
If you have a problem with it, and want to defend your use of such charges issues, then please make a post in meta, so that it can be discussed by the community.
 
(e.g. My context was okay but the thread was bad? Or neither the context and the thread were both bad)
 
8:36 PM
Both.
 
So your answer is yes
I will probably make a meta question later
 
I'm done here, sorry. I have a few other things to do. Please remember what I asked of you.
@TylerH - last warning: don't post unconstructive comments. Posting a comment to get me to come to chat when I've already told you I couldn't talk anymore is quite unconstructive and an abuse of your privilege to comment.
 
8:53 PM
@anongoodnurse Um... you asked me to come to chat, so I created a chatroom.
I didn't see any way to invite you there from within the room so I posted a comment inviting you
Considering there's no way for a user to directly message a moderator, only vice versa, how else was I supposed to move the discussion to a chatroom?
There's no way to force the automated message of "please keep extended discussions out of comments, you can invite this user to a chatroom to continue" either, as far as I know
You can check the timestamps, my comment inviting you to chat was posted long before we had this conversation here
i.imgur.com/0wttCr2.png Notice how my invitation was posted two minutes before you even created this chatroom. I'm guessing you just didn't notice my comment until after you left here.
 
9:11 PM
@TylerH You might be right - or I had not refreshed the page; sorry about that. My error.
 

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