The Hangar

8:25 AM

@DeltaLima do you happen to know where I could find the sets of lat-long coordinates of various airway points? [right now I cannot recall the correct term for those]

@Federico you can find them at eurocontrol's EAD

thanks!

@Federico You need to go to SDO reporting and select what you want right there.

It isn't really user friendly.

For starters they want you to use java 1.7

I've worked my way around that by fiddling with their javascript, but it took some effort to get in with the latest JAVA

this page here? eurocontrol.int/services/…

That is the professional edition I think

You can get access through basic EAD as well (which is free and doesn't require you to have special data agreements)

ead.eurocontrol.int

You can login the right side. Guest / guest may work (IIRC), otherwise you have to create a free account

8:35 AM

I will sign up then. But at this point next week, priority is on the tests of thursday, this would have been a "nice to have".

thanks again

What are you working on if I may ask?

Just trying to show that my planner is able to comply to a given list of waypoints

so far I never used official waypoints, but just a list of hand-placed ones for testing purposes

I can fly across UTM zones, so a list of waypoints would have been a nice addition

Ach so. I have download part of the SDO database a couple of months ago, I might be able to find out where I stored that and send it to you. I'll ping you if I still have it.

In particulat I am trying to plot a "flight" from EDDS to LOAN

or should I be able to get them via skyvector?

I think I found the files. There are about 20 files with waypoints, routes, airports, VOR's, ILSes, obstacles etc.

I have no experience with skyvector, perhaps it works

I compressed all the files into a single tar.gz just exceeding 5Mb

8:47 AM

oh, woa, thanks

shall I post my email here?

THat's ok, just delete it after 3 seconds so I can copy paste it

perfect

@Federico message on it's way

received, thanks!

9:13 AM

I will answer when I come back from lunch, I am sorry, but today is a bit messy.

Q: Can 'aircrafts' be automagically changed to 'aircraft'?

@Federico anytime, no worries

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Stack Exchange

1:16 PM

From time to time someone's blood pressure spikes when the plural 'aircrafts' is used in the Aviation forum. Would it be possible to implement a simple script in the system to delete the superfluous s's? (Interesting: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/46824/why-does-the-incorrect-plural-...

feature-request editing moderation

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Stack Exchange

4:31 PM

Q: Why isn't this site able to keep its budding stars engaged?

Remember these users? Madhav Sudarshan Victor Juliet Though Victor Juliet was mysteriously banned for a week, but when he came back he earned about 1000 rep in 5 days. And the latest one.. Ethan Hunt Yes his questions were never clear but maybe we failed to handle the curiosity that he has.....

discussion

@anshabhi: Victor Juliet was banned for cheating with the rep system. He almost stopped participating after he got banned for the second time for the same reason. So I would doubt your claim that he was a "budding star"

Ethan has plenty of curiosity, and I give him credit for this, but lacks the constance needed to fully study and understand the phenomena he is interested in, he often gives me the impression that he expects all answer to be in the first 2 results of a google search: if it is not there, then "is not possible"

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6:47 PM

"And here's an aircraft that's literally made out of its type certificate..."

Bret Copeland

7:02 PM

@voretaq7 if he's required to be current in manned aircraft to fly the paper airplane, then does that mean he can count paper airplane takeoffs and landings towards currency for manned aircraft?

7:22 PM

@BretCopeland What category and class would that count as?

7:42 PM

@voretaq7 "paperlight" ?

Dan Hulme

@voretaq7 A4

8:07 PM

@DanHulme damn europeans, why can't you make paper that fits on the shelf?!

Terry

8:23 PM

Well, at least they named their paper size after a U.S. Navy airplane!

8:58 PM

@Terry There's a B paper series too but I think it only goes up to B7 or B8

that does include at least one kick-ass design though

Dan Hulme

@voretaq7 where by "europeans" you mean ISO

and also it does fit on the shelf, if your shelf isn't a stupid size

@DanHulme Yes, "Europeans" -- we ignore you people and have our own NIST-blessed standards.

(Nevermind that they're photocopies of ISO standards on 8.5x11 inch paper with the borders cut off!)

9:15 PM

@voretaq7 aehm, A and B (and C) paper formats are all ISO, no NIST involved

Paper size

Many paper size standards conventions have existed at different times and in different countries. Today, there is one widespread international ISO standard (including A4, B3, C4, etc.) and a local standard used in North America (including letter, legal, ledger, etc.). The paper sizes affect writing paper, stationery, cards, and some printed documents. The standards also have related sizes for envelopes. == Grain == Most industry standards express the direction of the grain last when giving dimensions (that is, 17×11 inches is short grain paper and 11×17 inches is long grain paper), althou...

what I found funny is that the B series has round metric measures for the sides (1 meter and submultiples) and is used mostly where the metric system has an hard time getting a foot(...)hold

[or by NIST formats you were referring to the "letter, legal" and similars?]

@Federico yes, like I said we ignore other people's standards. :)

oh, then I misunderstood, sorry.

time for bed, I guess