The Bikeshed

ArtOfCode

8:07 PM

Guys, I'm told the OSI has reached out to us. Ziz has set up a room for this

ratchet freak

you'll need a mod to pull them into a chat room unless they already have an account with 20+ rep

Zizouz212

Yeah, I realized that. Errrrr

@HDE226868 Can you come!

Gilles

@Zizouz212 I'm around

they do need to have an SE account first

Zizouz212

Yeah, they do

It's massonpj

HDE 226868

@Zizouz212 I see Gilles is here, but what's up?

Zizouz212

8:11 PM

@massonpj Ok You're in?

massonpj

@Zizouz212 Yeah I made it

Zizouz212

Okay great!

So I figured that we might as well get you up to speed.

massonpj

Not sure if my comment made sense - limited chars!

Gilles

@Zizouz212 if you need something please post a link (to the user's profile, or the chatroom or whatever is relevant)

Zizouz212

User's profile?

ArtOfCode

8:13 PM

Shall we take this to the other room? Leave this one for site stuff?

Zizouz212

@Gilles Actually, could you do that? Here's the link to that room: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/25380/discussion-with-osi

Gilles

@Zizouz212 could I do what?

ArtOfCode

@Zizouz212 masson has 34 rep on an SE site so he should have global access

Zizouz212

He should?

@massonpj Could you try going to this room and posting a message? chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/25380/discussion-with-osi

massonpj

sure

ArtOfCode

8:15 PM

All is well

Zizouz212

Okay, never mind. I didn't realize that. Thanks :)

Gilles

ok, let me rephrase that: if you need something, please post a message that describes what you need doing in a way that the reader can understand even if they haven't followed the whole conversation and can't read your mind

ArtOfCode

@Gilles duly noted

Zizouz212

Okay. Sure :D

Gilles

If you want to invite someone in chat, they need an account on a Stack Exchange site other than Stack Overflow and Meta Stack Exchange. If they have 20 rep on any of these sites, like massonpj, they don't need an invitation, they can just drop in and chat.

Zizouz212

8:23 PM

@overactor If you're here, do you mind if you can come to the other chatroom? We're having a discussion with some reps of the OSI

Meta Data

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Q: Is this particular question primarily opinion based?

I'm asking about this question, which asks for examples where in hindsight a project would have done better if they had avoided overlooking an area of expertise. I would expect answers to provide evidence (as requested) and therefore not be opinion based. Although the choice of evidence to prese...

Zizouz212

9:25 PM

Are we going to go on with the neutral version that I suggested - Open Info?

ArtOfCode

I think we should

ratchet freak

@Zizouz212 let's not take over this room with stuff that should be in the main chat

Zizouz212

The OSI seems to embrace that

overactor

@Zizouz212 Why shouldn't they, openness is what it's all about

Mnementh

@Zizouz212 In the meantime voting on your Meta-post is more in favor to renaming and scope-widening

ArtOfCode

9:26 PM

@overactor Perhaps you're a good person to talk to SE about our scope/name change

Zizouz212

That's true. Should we start with that? I can get started posting questions and posts on meta

ArtOfCode

Yes we should, but discussion of scope and site things -> main chat please

Zizouz212

Yes of course.

ArtOfCode

You're the room owner, you can move messages

overactor

@ArtOfCode I'm sure some CM will tell us what's what relating to that pretty soon

Zizouz212

9:27 PM

room ownership...

I will

← 12 messages moved from Discussion with OSI

Anyways, I'm going to go eat food. :D

ArtOfCode

You do that. It's late for me :)

overactor

@Zizouz212 1 food, a good amount of foods for a human.

ArtOfCode

Well, 'late'.

Martijn

Usually, I prefer around 1.3 foods, but it's incredibly hot here. I had about half a food, which was plenty

overactor

Maybe SE will finally opensource their code...

(probably not, but maybe)

ArtOfCode

9:48 PM

It would be good... I'd love to try it out

overactor

At this point, what do they have to lose?

no one can compete really

ArtOfCode

I just want to set one up for myself and play with the mod tools :)

overactor

And If the release it under a copyleft license...

ratchet freak

there are other SE-like Q&A sites

Mnementh

@ratchetfreak There are also other Wikipedia-like sites ...

But the question of opensourcing their code is completely up to stackexchange.inc

ratchet freak

9:54 PM

the DB structure has already been revealed through data.SE

overactor

There's a canonical question about this, no?

ratchet freak

137

Q: Will Open Sourcing Stack Overflow Destroy Our Business Model?

Warning. This discussion took place during the Stack Exchange 1.0 days, when FogCreek sold Stack Exchange licenses for a fee. It is worth noting that Stack Exchange licenses are still being sold for intranet use. Important Caveattm: this is something we are merely discussing that m...

discussion stackexchange open-source

overactor

It's ages old though

I feel like at this point, there can only be plus sides for SE

ArtOfCode

I'd love to see it

overactor

Someone with some rep on meta should put a big bounty on that question for an answer that provides a view on how things look now, 6 years after it was asked.

SE has grown and changed

Open Source has matured/evolved

Martijn

10:05 PM

Isn't StackExchange written in Wasabi?

overactor

I can oly offer a 150 bounty on meta

Gilles

@overactor don't bother, SE staff don't care about bounties and you don't care about answers from non-staff

overactor

It does draw attention

pretty defeatist stance by the way

not wrong necessarily

Mnementh

10:25 PM

Stackexchange has hickups?

trichoplax

Being defeatist where appropriate can allow moving on to a plan that has a better chance of working

overactor

@trichoplax what's the better plan though?

Also, I don't care about giving away my meta rep

Maybe it won't help, but I added a bounty anyway:

137

Q: Will Open Sourcing Stack Overflow Destroy Our Business Model?

Warning. This discussion took place during the Stack Exchange 1.0 days, when FogCreek sold Stack Exchange licenses for a fee. It is worth noting that Stack Exchange licenses are still being sold for intranet use. Important Caveattm: this is something we are merely discussing that m...

discussion stackexchange open-source

ArtOfCode

10:44 PM

Is it just me that can't get to any se site at the moment

Gilles

@ArtOfCode it's going on and off, they seem to be having network troubles

trichoplax

@overactor I meant that accepting one defeat gives you time to look for another plan - I didn't have a suggestion :)

But I suppose you could flag it and ask in a custom reason

ratchet freak

@Gilles maintanance

Gilles

@ratchetfreak they had planned maintenance tonight, but that maintenance seems to have triggered some unexpected troubles

Zizouz212

11:03 PM

I'm back :D

We're having a hiccup?

trichoplax

I can view meta but it is only half responsive

main is dead

Zizouz212

meta.SE is dead

Otherwise, open source is working fine, main and meta for me

trichoplax

meta.SE is kind of a main site

Martijn

meta.OS is dead for me

trichoplax

I can see main for PPCG

I get error 523 for opensource

Zizouz212

11:05 PM

Also, everything is loading so slow

I'm getting 523s at random now...

Martijn

OS main is fine for me

Zizouz212

Probably works since it's Open Source. Everything else is closed, and is hence closed off to the world :)

Gilles

We're sending out a workaround for the routing issue now - access to sites should be normal within about 5 minutes.

Tweeted by StackStatus on June 30, 2015 at 11:02 PM

@Zizouz212 OS is/was down too

trichoplax

And we're back!

Zizouz212

Interesting... Haven't had any issues with OS so far...

Gilles

11:09 PM

the bug is intermittent (I think some of their network equipment is failing) so you might have been lucky

it might depend on your location, too

Zizouz212

I'm from Toronto. Something with being Canadian?

:)

trichoplax

You have new reputation changes... ...but the drop down won't display them

Gilles

still not able to post an answer

trichoplax

I can't even view anything now - I guess it will be intermittent while they're working on it?

Zizouz212

Ok, and it stops...

trichoplax

11:11 PM

This doesn't happen too often, and chat never stops

Zizouz212

Chat's special :D

Gilles

@trichoplax Oh, it does. But it's on separate servers, so it goes down at different times.

trichoplax

@Gilles I've just been lucky in terms of timing then...

Trevor Clarke

11:50 PM

@ArtOfCode can u pls run your ai in this chat for a bit? Or a private one with me please?

Zizouz212

@TrevorClarke He's probably sleeping...

Trevor Clarke

Oh

I have more rep than u! :-D

Zizouz212

I haven't been active at all, I've finally got down to only earning 50 rep a day now... -_-

Trevor Clarke

Gg

Zizouz212

Oh well, I'll grow once again...

Trevor Clarke

11:53 PM

Gg

Zizouz212

I think I've just been focusing more on meta and stuff

And btw, what is gg?

i never get it and it seems to imply a million things...

Trevor Clarke

Basically good job (sometimes in a sarcastic manor)

>>points get

Zizouz212

Oh... -_-

The bot isn't on...

And regardless, we may be adding a few more things to it

Anyways, how's life?

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