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12:07 AM
@J.Musser Hey J. Can you delete the link I posted to the question I don't like? I thought I could go back and do it after showing it to you but I can't. Now it's sitting open in this room and might be offensive to people, including me! Yikes! I'd flag it for a moderator, but I think that's you!
 
12:21 AM
@Sue lol, that's a lot :)
1 message moved to Trash
@Sue moved it to trash.
 
12:45 AM
wow, 27 flags waiting for review... where are the cms?
 
1:31 AM
@Sue Thanks and welcome again. It took me some time to reply :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky, friend, please slow down on the comments. It's okay (probably preferred) to be friendly in comments, but it there's something you need to tell someone, overdoing the friendliness sometimes makes your message unclear.
@Sue That part would be called the "crop," right?
(I'm a shochet, remember? :P)
 
@Shokhet Sorry I am behind the times. Thanks.
@Shokhet What do you mean?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky the word count
in your comments is very high
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky That's all right; we're all learning here. This site is a little tougher than many others, because what exactly is and isn't on-topic is still a little fuzzy, at best
 
More than necessary.
 
1:43 AM
@Shokhet Do you think I was wrong for the comments in lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/3657/…
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky What @J.Musser said, basically. The more you say in a comment, the harder it is to sort out the important information from it.
@darthnesscoveredthesky I wouldn't say "wrong," but I would definitely say that those comments are more wordy than they need to be.
 
@J.Musser Oh, I don't understand how to condense my words. Is it really a problem, that is the way people talk on WikiHow and they are very nice there :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky wrong, no, but unnecessarily wordy.
 
....don't misunderstand me, @darthnesscoveredthesky; I think that simply saying "this is wrong with your post" is also bad, because then people think you're fighting with them. You've got to find some kind of balance in how many words to use in a comment
 
Try to say what you need to (not more) in as few words as is clearly legible, and of course, always be nice (which you do)
 
1:46 AM
@Shokhet Do they show accuracy in your opinion or am I going overboard?
 
@J.Musser Exactly
@darthnesscoveredthesky They're a little overboard. To be honest, I came here after reading that question.
 
@Shokhet Oh, ok which ones should I remove? In your opinion.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Just keep it in mind for the future.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky I think those comments will take care of themselves, for now. Just try to keep it in mind when you make comments, from now on.
 
@J.Musser Yeah, but was I right for what I said? Do you think they need to be removed.
@Shokhet OK :( I feel Naughty. Do you think this question is product suggestion?
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A: How to determine how much heating oil is left in the tank?

Robert CartainoYou can use temperature strips purchased at a hardware store to show you where the oil level is. These strips change color with temperature, showing you where the cooler (or warmer) fuel oil is my measuring the temperature of the outside of the metal tank. If the room changes temperature througho...

 
1:49 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky yes your points were valid. You don't need to remove the comments
@darthnesscoveredthesky *answer
@darthnesscoveredthesky no.
 
@J.Musser Yay! I did something right :) Thanks a load!
 
Those aren't common things.
@darthnesscoveredthesky Just remember what we said for the future. :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky No, I don't think they need to be removed. There's relevant information in there, even if it was a little hard to find
 
lol
 
@J.Musser OK, I will remove the comment, I thought that the post was though
 
1:50 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky I think it's fine; I upvoted. I had certainly never heard of those things before.
@darthnesscoveredthesky And even so; this recent answer of mine I think is also fine, even though it recommends a product
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky oh wow, you really spammed that one up.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky See the answers to meta.lifehacks.stackexchange.com/q/1/59; especially meta.lifehacks.stackexchange.com/a/17/59; regarding product recommendation answers
 
@Shokhet But it looks like product suggestion. So I remove the comments
@Shokhet Oh, very helpful. I have to remove the comments I was naughty indeed :( Should I apologize I got into someones hair very bad
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Nah, it's all right. Site policy and scope is still developing, so everyone has the right to be a little confused sometime :)
@darthnesscoveredthesky I wouldn't say you were "naughty," just thinking more about the old scope.
By the way, @darthnesscoveredthesky, I think you did great in writing this answer. Good points, and well-written. I wish I could +2 ;-)
 
@Shokhet Haha yes agreed :) I stuck in the past again come to the future
@Shokhet Thank You :)
 
1:58 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky "Remember the past, live the present, and hope for the future" ~Nachum Segal
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@Shokhet But is this site failing, a lot of people are leaving and declining moderatorship? A lot of people I voted for
@Shokhet Good quote! I 1+, but I can't
 
@Shokhet wow, a lot of bold and italics.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky It's tough, I know. But moderators aren't the silver bullet solution, here -- moderation is up to the community. Moderators help, but it's really up to all of us
@J.Musser I know, I know, but it's good information, and presented in a way that can be understood well.
 
@Shokhet but grammar...
 
@J.Musser ....here, doesn't impede understanding at all, so it's fine
 
2:02 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky I wouldn't say failing. Everything we work through, we're that much closer to where we should be.
 
@J.Musser I like to emphasis, why don't people understand this :)
@J.Musser Oh no, my grammar is bad :( Was it very bad, I am studying English more.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky If you emphasize everything, then you actively cancel out all emphasis.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Keep learning! We're all still learning, here :)
 
@J.Musser OMG, that is correct. Why did I not think of that? :) Thank You, you are very helpful.
@Shokhet I thought I knew it, but apparently not. LOL. So did you edit.
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A: How to determine how much heating oil is left in the tank?

Robert CartainoYou can use temperature strips purchased at a hardware store to show you where the oil level is. These strips change color with temperature, showing you where the cooler (or warmer) fuel oil is my measuring the temperature of the outside of the metal tank. If the room changes temperature througho...

Is this better?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky I didn't, because I thought that the message of your post was clear enough. Would you like me to?
 
2:06 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky lol, reminds me of
Dec 24 '14 at 17:51, by iliveunderawesomerock
@J.Musser I know English, I am American, I am English
that was funny
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky ....I wouldn't, though, because I think that if I would edit, I'd destroy the "voice" of your post -- that post could only have been written by you, and I wouldn't change a word, even for the purpose of "grammar."
....that is, unless you want it to be written in correct grammar....
 
lol
 
@Shokhet Yes, if you could clarified it?
@J.Musser That was the truth, partiallyish!
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky If you really want....I honestly think it's clear enough as it is.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky xD
Ah, Zach re added his nomination, declined. Oh well.
 
2:11 AM
@Shokhet OK, I guess your right
 
wow, most of the nominations have a lot of downvotes for mod nominations
 
@J.Musser I know, I feel like I voted for you come back :(
 
based on what I've seen from other sites
 
@J.Musser D'you think they've been up for too long? :P
 
@Shokhet No, why?
 
2:12 AM
@J.Musser I will not lie anymore :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky It's his decision, and I respect that.
@darthnesscoveredthesky good.
:D
 
@J.Musser That was part of our last discussion -- IIRC, you were bugging out that mods weren't chosen yet, but I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
 
@J.Musser I have large containers of respect for him he was a good user and he was nice.
 
@Shokhet I think that doesn't matter too much. I trust the judgement of the SE team
@darthnesscoveredthesky He still is.
 
@J.Musser Aright.
 
2:15 AM
I (at -2) am the only user nominated that doesn't have at least -4. That's a lot of dv-s.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Declining a mod nomination doesn't mean that he'll stop using the site -- he just won't be a mod. (I don't claim to speak for him; that may have been cold-turkey quitting, but he can do whatever he wants)
 
A lot of nominations go by with almost no dvs
 
@J.Musser I can fix that :) Shall I?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Only if it's what you want to see.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky How many accounts do you have? :P
 
2:17 AM
@Shokhet I know, but I never see him anymore. His usership has gone very low, yes?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky school
 
@Shokhet 1. I was JKing again.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Could be. I haven't been keeping close tabs on him.
@darthnesscoveredthesky Gotcha.
 
@Shokhet What does that mean? Stalker ;)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky ;-) ....I said that I wasn't keeping close tabs on him. :P
 
2:18 AM
@J.Musser I have school to, but I am off right now. School takes a lot of time and I don't go to many sites during school.
 
ah some valid flags! is happy
I like flagging in chat
 
@J.Musser I saw two; one I wasn't sure, the other disappeared (you?) before I had a chance to click on it.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Spring semester is about to begin/has begun.
@Shokhet yep
just a link to bad pic
 
@J.Musser Leave some for me! :P
@J.Musser That's what the first one sounded like, but I "wasn't sure"
 
but you click too slowly
I validated both
 
2:21 AM
@J.Musser I'm new at chat flags, remember? ;-)
 
This is SE chat's flags tab.
 
> There are no flags to display
 
@Shokhet that's normal :p
 
@J.Musser I not going for that semester. I relax, make big bucket of money now :)
 
....does it show a little number in parentheses when flags come up?
@J.Musser One would hope. :)
 
2:24 AM
@Shokhet yeah, when unless you pin the tab
 
on chrome anyway
 
I accidentally made that post, it won't go away :(
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky What post?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky I can't see it. You can see it 'cuz you wrote it, but no one else (with less than 2,000 rep points) can. It'll stay there in case you decide to edit it to be better, or decide that it was really okay like it was.
 
2:25 AM
Do we need to make more mod nominations I have people that need to be nominated that I think deserve to be mods?
@Shokhet It was meant as a comment, but I clicked wrong and it was a big mess.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky If you feel that there are any missing, there's nothing wrong with posting more.
@darthnesscoveredthesky That's all right. We all make mistakes once in a while :)
 
@J.Musser Evidentially you can't see it.
@Shokhet Haha very messy, I make mistake everyday :) Now I am a big mess
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky You should see: "1 Relevant Answer, 1 Deleted Answer (prefs)"
click on prefs to customise if you don't want to see it.
 
@J.Musser IDK
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky You're not a mess. You might make one once in a while by accident, but I wouldn't call you "a mess"
 
2:28 AM
@J.Musser I don't mind it
 
@J.Musser I don't know if that option exists for your own deleted answers
 
@Shokhet yeah it does
 
@J.Musser Aright, then.
 
@Shokhet Oh, I am good mess. But still I have a lot of things that need to be categorized, so I am messy. I put things on shelf, not messy. Explained :) You are very nice :)
 
@J.Musser I don't see it here, where I have two answers that were deleted by Robert Cartaino.
@darthnesscoveredthesky You don't want to see the mess in my room. That'll put any mess of yours to shame. :P
@J.Musser Is it different on Meta?
 
2:30 AM
@Shokhet weird, I have the option here
 
@J.Musser I don't have 2K; did you delete an answer?
....it could be because I don't have 2K yet....
 
@Shokhet I don't have 2k yet, but yes.
 
@Shokhet I mean things in my life, my goals, not my room. Everything is neat in my house, I make it so :)
 
Also works for my deleted meta answer
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky That's good. Once I'm doing quotes in here "a neat desk is a sign of a neat mind" ;-)
 
2:31 AM
Everyone is deleting everyone
 
@J.Musser (that I can't see)
 
I see it, why?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Once in a while, things need to be deleted. That's why the option exists
 
@Shokhet Yeah, but the thing is working for me fine.
@darthnesscoveredthesky cause you have over 2k
 
@J.Musser Oh
 
2:33 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky You have enough reputation points to see anyone's deleted posts -- see here for more info
@J.Musser Odd. Can you take a screenshot of it? ....maybe I'm looking for it in the wrong place
....if I understood you correctly, it should be here:
 
@Shokhet I know. Its late, its really late ;)
 
there ^^^^
 
@Shokhet yeah, my screenshot thing's bugged up...
one moment
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky I see. What time zone are you in? ...it's 9:30 pm by me
 
There, with deleted answer hidden^^
There, with deleted answer shown^^
 
2:39 AM
@J.Musser Huh. I don't see that option on my question; see my screenshot, above.
 
@Shokhet seen
 
@J.Musser Does that answer have any content to it? ....it looks like I edited it last, but I don't see anything in it
 
@Shokhet see the 'show content' button under it
OOOH my bad.
 
@J.Musser Ah, I see that now
 
That's an extension.
I'm so used to it I thought it was a regular feature.
 
2:41 AM
oh. mind posting a link to it? ....that would be very useful
(I use chrome)
....what's it called?
 
@Shokhet I can't tell you, sorry. If someone sees they can pinpoint my location and come for me, very scary ;(
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Fair enough.
@J.Musser Thanks!
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Anyway we might as well just hack your ip address :P
 
@J.Musser Why, not?
@J.Musser They can do that to, its very scary here
 
2:43 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky not scary
why would anyone want to stalk you of all people.
 
@J.Musser Very scary
 
@J.Musser I'll probably have to restart my browser for it to take effect....I'll try it later. Thanks!
@J.Musser Be nice!
 
@J.Musser IDK, do you watch the news. People get attacked everyday, they even attack children, crazy and very scary.
 
@Shokhet Turns out, I have a lot of SE extensions.
And I use them a lot.
 
@J.Musser I also have the "view vote count" one -- very useful on sites w/o 1K (or even an account)
 
2:45 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky I always wanted to be attacked, never got the chance.
 
interesting to see what's been downvoted
 
@Shokhet uh, thought that was a bookmarklet
 
@J.Musser nope, it's an extension
 
@J.Musser From personal experience it is bad and very scary. Why would you want that :( IDK, about you
 
mines a bookmarklet
 
2:46 AM
we're probably using different ones, then. How would it work as a bookmarklet?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky because I would totally whip 'em and show 'em who's boss
 
@Shokhet That is very boring, I never really wanted to use it. You can't even see the people who voted, lame ;)
 
@Shokhet Like a bookmark, but when you click it, it just shows yuo the vote splits
 
@J.Musser I use this one....but I see it has a bookmarklet option
 
you don't want to.
 
2:48 AM
@darthnesscoveredthesky Yeah. No one would show you who voted; that's private information
 
@J.Musser That is very cocky
@Shokhet You act like its HIPAA or something like that :)
 
@Shokhet Sometimes I know for certain, but it only works a few times.
@darthnesscoveredthesky uh, no. You never met me. I could handle prolly five other guys of average fitness.
 
@J.Musser ....like if they leave a "+1, but...." comment? ;-)
 
@J.Musser How?
 
@Shokhet no.
@darthnesscoveredthesky can't say
 
2:50 AM
@J.Musser so....how?
 
can't say
 
all right, then
 
:D
 
So I use that one (vote counts), now the deleted answers one (if it works as advertised), and this one. What are you using that I'm not, @J.Musser?
 
@J.Musser Your very secretive :)
 
2:51 AM
yesterday, by Shokhet
@SabreTooth Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit; right?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky I... can't say
 
;-)
 
Someone is ninja starring. And it is not me
 
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Q: "Reply" links on comments

balpha Screenshot About This user script adds a little "reply" link to each comment. Clicking this link will fetch the rest of the comments, if some of them were hidden show the "add comment" text box pre-populate the text box with "@" and the name of the user you're replying to (removing sp...

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Q: Threaded comments

balpha History June 6, 2012: Fixed an issue that can cause major problems with chat. December 17, 2013: Fix an incompatibility with the Winter Bash code. Screenshot Before: After: About Instead of showing comments in chronological order, this user script displays them in a threaded view, ...

 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Not me, either. @J.Musser?
 
2:54 AM
@Shokhet Starring myself? Ha, who knows...
258
Q: AutoReviewComments - Pro-forma comments for SE

Benjol No more re-typing the same comments over and over! This script adds a little 'auto' link next to all comments boxes. When you click the link, you see a popup with 6 configurable auto-comments (canned responses), which you can easily click to insert. This script was inspired by answers to thi...

 
@J.Musser ....I don't know which of those avatars on the left is your bot.....
:P
 
@Shokhet I have only one sock.
 
@J.Musser I don't have any. What do you use it for? ....unless you're making a chatbot, I don't see much (legitimate) purpose in having one
(if you don't mind my asking)
 
@Shokhet Good nobody blamed me :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Well, you said you didn't do it.
 
2:56 AM
(blames darthness)
 
I want someone to nominate me again for Pro Temp moderator, I really think I can help the site. And a lot of people have pulled out, so what do you think?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky You could nominate yourself, you know.
 
@J.Musser I stopped that a while ago :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky You're allowed to nominate yourself
@darthnesscoveredthesky (blames darthness again)
 
@J.Musser Thanks for the links! I'll take a look; some of those (esp the auto-comments) look useful
 
2:58 AM
@Shokhet I had others, but chrome just kicked them off just now for whatever reason...
 
I don't want to nominate myself, I want someone to nominate me or it won't happen. Its not what I want, but what the community wants
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky So you don't want it?
 
@J.Musser Odd.
 
@J.Musser Why not? And I am not starring
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Why not what?
 
2:58 AM
I have to go now. See y'all around!
 
cya!
 
@J.Musser I do, but nominating yourself seems wrong and selfish :)
Bye @Shokhet
@J.Musser You said " You're allowed to nominate yourself". Why can't I?
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky I said you can.
Zach did.
 
Oh, I thought you said I can't
Do you think I would make a good mod?
 
"you are allowed to" means you can.
@darthnesscoveredthesky uh, depends
 
3:04 AM
@J.Musser That's cryptic, what does it depend on :)
 
Your biggest strength seems to be that you aren't giving up on the site, which is a good sign. But you don't seem to have a great understanding of how things should work, etc.
You prolly wanna do some serious work if you want to become a mod.
 
@J.Musser What work?
 
Thanks for being honest, I thought I was going good
Apparently not, LOL
 
Apologies if I was overly blunt there
 
3:08 AM
@J.Musser No, that was perfect. You get nowhere by being nice. I cry later :)
@J.Musser So how can I be better? If you know of course
 
You have to be great at looking at a situation that regular users don't know how to handle, and deciding what is the best way to go. You will pretty much represent the site.
 
@J.Musser So my coaching isn't good enough.
I am trying to be a admin for wikihow later, and I think I need to better these skills. So thank you for helping me identify :)
 
You have to know how to deal with sometimes extremely bad/rude users, never get sucked into an argument, look over and deal well with everything anyone flags, etc
 
@J.Musser So my coaching isn't good enough?
 
A mod does not necessarily need to coach as you have been, they are there to be a user, but also (mostly) to deal with the things the site users can't deal with, and putting things straight where they begin to stray.
 
3:13 AM
I try to be good at handling these situations on Wikihow, I didn't get offended and handled a user who called me "Bich" I quote them. Trollers on wikihow can be really mean, just a quick FYI.
@J.Musser So my participation on Meta wasn't a example of that or is that not what your talking about?
 
It's good to coach, but not the main part of being a mod. The two things can go together, but they don't necessarily have to.
 
@J.Musser OK, so you can be a mod without telling new users what do and directing people.
 
If a user went through and bumped up 120 old questions by editing, how would you respond?
@darthness?
 
I am writing wait :)
 
ok star troll, deleting the stars...
 
3:18 AM
@J.Musser I would tell them that "Editing old questions are good and helps to add quality to the site, but by bumping up so many old questions you are taking the attention away from the new ones. Thus, only a few old questions should be edited per day. If you have any questions ask on Meta or in Chat.
Is that good? I didn't mean to offend.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Where would you tell them that?
 
@J.Musser Not me. And I want my old username back, but I can't get it for almost a month :( You told me I could change it everyday, that so didn't work :)
@J.Musser In a comment on their question. But I am sure that is the wrong answer :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky Yeah, just change it on another account, and copy changes to all accounts
 
@J.Musser OH, thank you. I want be either "iliveunderaawesomerock" or "iamnotamoster". IDK.
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Q: Close votes in the review queues

TimThis image sums it up: Here we have an item in the review queue (link to review, link to question) You can see that we have 6 people voted - 3 for leave open and 3 for close. I voted to Leave Open because I believe it is clear what it's asking. If the review queue is that subjective this sit...

This question was basically ignored. Any insight anyone?
 
How would you respond to a custom flag that read: "I'm now certain that this user has been serially downvoting me. I don't want to publicly shame, thus the flag. Please deal with the situation to the best of your judgement. Thank you for your time."
With a real link to a user
@Darthness^^
 
3:27 AM
@J.Musser OH I was gone
 
@darthness?
 
@J.Musser Thank You for your response. I will make sure to follow up on this situation and make sure everything is OK. I don't think I can tell you what the user's activity is, but I will make to help in any way I can. Thank You.
Was that good. I thought it sucked, excuse my language :)
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Q: How to stop mumbling

user2133Any body have any tips to stop one from mumbling? I have already tried usually speaking loud, then I go quiet. It's like I'm lazy to talk. When I speak loud, it's like I'm shouting too. Sounds like I've lost the ability to know when I'm shouting or not.

I did a comment for this, IDK about its effectiveness.
 
How would you respond to a low quality flag on lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2447/…
@darthness?
 
@J.Musser Sorry I had to go. And I replied to that :)
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky no, if you were a mod, and an lq flag came up on here, how would you react?
 
3:38 AM
@J.Musser I would probably vote for deletion and tell the user to add more definition to it.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky A moderators vote is final.
@darthness how would you respond to a vlq flag on lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/427/…
 
@J.Musser I would keep it. I mean it is small, but it seems short but sweet.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky What would you mark the flag?
@darthness how would you react to a 'too chatty' flag on lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/248/…
 
@J.Musser Not a good flag, I forgot the word. I think declined.
 
@darthness how would you respond to a custom flag reading 'not to sure about this one thx' on lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/288/…
eh? you wouldn't respond?
 
3:52 AM
hi!
 
@SabreTooth hey, you star trolling?
 
@J.Musser star what-ing?
 
someone's been starring everything
ilive wants to be a mod, and I've been questioning him.
 
eh? looks to be important things starred on the list
@J.Musser who?
 
@SabreTooth Cause I canceled the others
@SabreTooth darthness
 
3:54 AM
@J.Musser Room owners can do that?
 
@Shokhet yup
 
@J.Musser ah got ya, what you questioning him about?
 
@SabreTooth read above.
 
@J.Musser I would decline, because the post adds validation.
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky and the next?
7 mins ago, by J. Musser
@darthness how would you respond to a custom flag reading 'not to sure about this one thx' on http://lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/288/my-pants-are-falling-off#commen‌​t394_288
 
3:57 AM
@J.Musser I would decline. It seems like a joke sort of, but I think that this post might also voice a point. I would ask others if I could, but I would decline.
Hello @Shokhet and @SabreTooth Welcome :)
 
@darthness how would you react to a 'not constructive' flag on the comment lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/1640/…
 
@darthnesscoveredthesky how would you react to the site being invaded by a legion of carnivorous flamingoes?
 

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