Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:01 AM

So, yeah. Somehow you have a db migration that hasn't happened. Is there a typo in or around your article field definition?

Like, manage.py migrate bails out when you run the migration???

Atom shit out on me because one plugin wasn't working. So, maybe one of your imports is bailing in something related to article and it's screwing everything up because the exception is handled in a "Silence infidels" sort of way.

Lucio

manage.py makemigrations was enough though

hbdgaf

Well good then. I thought you already tried that.

Lucio

I mentioned that because it is not on the wiki

hbdgaf

assumptions

Lucio

xD

I'm listening Depech' Mode

hbdgaf

12:05 AM

<.<

Lucio

hbdgaf

Don't shop between November and January with a credit card. Problem solved.

Mateo

at least they didn't put him in a hoodie ;)

hbdgaf

@Mateo I saw something hilarious related to that... HOW HARD IS IT TO DRINK MOUNTAIN DEW AND TYPE IN A HOODIE INSIDE A SERVER ROOM... YOU SWEAT TO DEATH

Lucio

Isn't him Zorro's son?

Mateo

12:09 AM

lol

Lucio

suddenly realize nathan isn't around

hbdgaf

I saw when he dropped out. He likes intellectual discussions. He usually disappears when it goes in this direction.

Lucio

@NathanOsman you should recheck the python version you were using, it is not nearly working here

I need to add middleware classes & ROOT_URL into settings.py

Oli

I'm in the process of upgrading just over 20 sites from Django 1.4 to Django 1.7. This chat room is not for me tonight.

Lucio

are you kidding? This gonna be your jam :p

hbdgaf

12:17 AM

@Lucio Hah... it's not the python version. It's the django version... or a combination.

Nathan Osman

Are you using the latest checkout from the 2buntu Git repo.?

I thought we fixed that one a few commits ago.

Lucio

pure git clone over master

Oli

@Lucio If you only knew the fun of chasing up backwards incompatibilities...

Nathan Osman

Hmm... that's really odd.

Lucio

@hbdgaf Django>=1.7 stated on requirements.txt

Nathan Osman

12:19 AM

Yeah, it should just work.

hbdgaf

@Lucio That doesn't mean the first deployment started that way... or that everything is clean and proper on the server like a new deployment. It just means it's supposed to want that :/

Nathan Osman

Are you sure it's not the pre-release Django 1.7?

(Taking stabs in the dark here.)

hbdgaf

Fair point @NathanOsman

Lucio

@NathanOsman reply that

Nathan Osman

:P

Yup, you've done everything right.

Do you get a shell if you run './manage.py shell'?

Lucio

12:22 AM

yep

Nathan Osman

Well, that's a good sign... I guess.

Lucio

take into account that without a twobuntu.settings file I get "Bad request 400"

so I need to rename local_settings.py to settings.py

Nathan Osman

Oh, no - don't do that.

It needs to stay as local_settings.py.

There are two settings files - and both are important.

hbdgaf

Is it because of using a deployment scripts and not using juju deploy? I could see that doing it...

Nathan Osman

For example, this is where ROOT_URLCONF is declared.

Lucio

12:26 AM

wait a second..

that was strange..

Oli

No, screw this. Django 1.6.8 will do for today.

jrg

@Oli Yeah, I get to do the same thing for Rails.

Lucio

I didn't saw the settings.py file, and the mv command replaced the original one

jrg

That's tomorrow night. All 4 applications.

All of which have 10+ external deps that may or may not be compatible.

One has 80 different libraries. :P

Oli

@jrg Django has changed how its authentication database model is structured (so you can replace it) and that means everything that accessed the old User model now needs different code... Well sort of.

Lucio

12:30 AM

you in worst case scenario @jrg

jrg

@Oli Oh brilliant!

Oli

It's times like these I think I don't charge my clients enough.

jrg

I definitely don't get paid enough. :P

hbdgaf

@Oli and this is why flask is a good idea. modular. not monolithic. so your changes hit a piece at a time not all at once.

Oli

Bah. The cohesion works really well until everything changes.

jrg

12:31 AM

Not a client anymore, so I get healthcare instead of 1.5x pay. (woooo)

Nathan Osman

I had a Django 1.7 feature backported to 1.5 last year for a client :P

jrg

@NathanOsman self-rolled patch?

hbdgaf

you get all the django-orm fancy-pants-ness with flask-sqlalchemy and all the templating with jinja. so, I really don't see the benefits much. saying everything is awesome until it's not isn't exactly an argument.

Nathan Osman

@jrg In a way...

@hbdgaf I've worked with SQLAlchemy, Flask, and Jinja2 a lot. It's a nice combo.

hbdgaf

i guess it's needs a more consistent wrench, but when you always turn the wrench, the OH GOD I HAVE TO PICK UP A WRENCH!!! isn't so bad.

@NathanOsman I'm liking it.

Lucio

12:34 AM

@NathanOsman fixed things up

Nathan Osman

I worked with one of the guys that created WTForms, so obviously, we used that.

Lucio

dunno how to debug that

Nathan Osman

@Lucio That's a really easy one.

hbdgaf

@NathanOsman sends a digital hug

Lucio

O.o

Nathan Osman

12:35 AM

You've got DEBUG set to False and since you're not accessing it via 2buntu.com, it throws an error (unrecognized host).

Just set DEBUG to True in local_settings.py.

hbdgaf

Simple problems are simple.

Nathan Osman

Yup, that's a very common one with Django.

hbdgaf

wildcarding for getting stuff running then specifying and having everything fall apart is common too.

\o/

12:38 AM

haha, I needed to read the title in order to remember it

BTW

/twobuntu
|
-- /app1
-- /app2
-- files

Why does it have this tree structure?

hbdgaf

shakes head and goes back to what he was doing...

Lucio

/app1
/app2
/site
|
--files

that's who django tutorial say it should look :S

Nathan Osman

@Lucio It's complicated.

Glad you got it working though.

Lucio

thank you for the help :-)

Nathan Osman

No problem.

jrg

12:45 AM

@NathanOsman didn't you build a fig docker container to simplify dev?

fig.sh/django.html

Oli

Wait, are you using Postgres for a blog engine? SQLite3 is plenty fast for production on simple databases (and makes dev deployments a lot more simple!) I've had 100k views in a day go through on ~1% CPU. I wouldn't touch Postgres unless you a) need obscure features (eg GIS), b) webscale or c) have and are processing massive amounts of data.

Lucio

meh..

jrg

@Oli yeah, we're using pg.

dunno why.

Lucio

My neck is hurting by now

jrg

at work we use it because hstore.

(gosh, hate the use of hashes EVERYWHERE)

Lucio

12:59 AM

have a great weekend guys

ciao

Oli

1:14 AM

There is something nice about digging through code you haven't looked at in half a decade. Past Oli was a lazy jerkhole and I love swearing at him.

6

jrg

2:23 AM

No wonder everything is so slow...

Journeyman Geek

2:36 AM

0_0

Nathan Osman

@Oli: does SQLite provide schema modifications in transactions? I don't even think SQLite supports all types of schema alterations.

jrg

2:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, so finally brought the system CPU temp down from 86C.

it's now at 68C

and it'll only get cooler as the room gets colder (yay winter)

Nathan Osman

I thought of putting my PC outside during -30° weather and really overclocking it...

As long as the air intake was far away from where the hot air was being blown out, I'm convinced I could easily take this CPU from 3.6 GHz to at least 4.2 - maybe even 4.5.

(I'm not actually going to try that.)

Journeyman Geek

3:08 AM

makes more sense to have a vent from the outside

Oli

@NathanOsman Database features might be worth considering if we were talking about anything other than a blog. Seriously, it could as well be flat file.

Nathan Osman

@Oli Our blog goes through a lot of schema alterations. Like a lot.

I don't think SQLite even does ALTER COLUMN.

Oli

At dev time? That's fine. That's what South is for.

(or Django 1.7's migrations)

Nathan Osman

We use Django 1.7, so no need for South anymore :P

Well, for fun, it might be worth benchmarking the two both running under our load to see how well each performs.

We don't get a lot of traffic - certainly not enough to make the database the bottleneck.

Hey, cool. I have IE5 installed in a VM.

Journeyman Geek

3:37 AM

98 or 2k?

Nathan Osman

98.

hbdgaf

6:36 AM

@NathanOsman Not to mention sqlite chokes on bulk writes, so if you ever work around some massive dedupe or new db table/file in some way that requires a lot of writes - it pukes.

postgres ftw.

Nathan Osman

7:06 AM

Another reason we need PostgreSQL - we're eventually planning to do replication.

SQLite doesn't do that.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:58 AM

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Q: ubuntu does no let me log in to my user, how can I fix it?

My ubuntu has just crashed. Now that I restarted it, it does nothing when I enter my password. The screen just gets refreshed leaving the password space empty again. However, if I try to enter a wrong password, it recognize that it is an invalid password. There is also a weird white box around th...

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TGMCians

12:22 PM

can anyone here nuke this pls

nuke-pls askubuntu.com/questions/554922/…

/me not sure about it whether it's off-topic or on-topic

Oli

@hbdgaf Again, that's just never an issue for a content-displaying site. 99% of views should be read only (or close to). Caching should mean that actually at least 99% of those aren't even touching the database at all.

And when you do need to bulk-write, do it in a transaction and it'll fly.

Tim

12:45 PM

Is anyone else having warnings with Ask Ubuntu on chrome? if I go to www.askubuntu.com it says it is unsecure...

Rinzwind

not me

Tim

just askubuntu (no www.) is fine tho... :/

Oli

@Tim I get NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID in Chrome.

Tim

I get this:

Oli

They're sending the stackexchange.com certificate, that's why.

Tim

12:49 PM

so yeah same problem...

should i post on meta?

Oli

Same in Firefox actually. I just never use the www.

Hmm, Firefox is a little more explanatory. The certificate was issued for: stackexchange.com, askubuntu.com, meta.askubuntu.com, stacksnippets.net, careers.joelonsoftware.com, discuss.area51.stackexchange.com, mathoverflow.net, meta.mathoverflow.net

Rinzwind

weird I have no problems atm :P

Tim

Hmm it's because I got a new new tab page and i set the link to be www. I've changed it now but the problem is still there

Oli

@Rinzwind Are you sure you're on the right subdomain and using ssl?

Rinzwind

lol

Tim

12:51 PM

And firefox is not giving any error, it just redirects to no www. and loads the page

oh hang on cos im not logged in there

Rinzwind

@Oli got it now by doing it manually

Oli

@Tim But yeah, post a bug

Tim

this meta or se?

Avinash Raj

1:06 PM

MSE i think.

Tim

1:27 PM

It's a dupe. Been status-planned since Jun 27 '13

...

>:-(

Ask Ubuntu Meta

2:27 PM

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Q: What about gaining money on askubuntu

If we put ads on the askubuntu, then some helpers, users that answering the questions as a volunteer; they earn some money. This will make askubuntu hum i think. What do you think?

discussion users

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

3:13 PM

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Q: Debootstrap for Backbox Error with release file

I'm trying to install a BackBox (Ubuntu based) chroot environment with debootstrap using the following command: sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 trusty /MYJAIL/ http://ppa.launchpad.net/backbox/four/ubuntu and I get the following error: E: Failed getting release file http://ppa....

ubuntu chroot debootstrap

Virusboy

4:21 PM

http://askubuntu.com/users/353416/bleancook-5

Account should be flagged

jokerdino

I can't access the site because too many requests from my ip?

Oli

6:10 PM

@jokerdino SE were testing out Cloudflare integration on us the other day that made us all look like we were coming at the site from the same IP. You might be catching the second wave of that.

jokerdino

I am having this issue across the network. Weird.

Seth

your account looks clean..

jokerdino

I didn't do anything.

Seth

Claiming innocence now eh? Sounds suspicious :P

Mateo

maybe your Internet company assigned you a bad ip?

I would reset the modem/router and try again

Rinzwind

6:37 PM

I just got an accepted answer withing a minute of posting :P Might be a new record for me _O-

always good to gain rep while playing dragon age inquisition. now with TWO castles

Kalpit

8:09 PM

hi can any buddy help me to solve this askubuntu.com/questions/555079/…

Mateo

@Kalpit what happens if you do:

sudo apt-get install php5-mysql

Kalpit

i getting following error

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
php5-mysql : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3) but 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.15 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

and when i am trying to install php5-commin its saying its up-to-date

Seth

8:24 PM

@Kalpit Do you have any PPAs installed?

Mateo

looks like it wants an exact version, an you have a newer one

Kalpit

PPAs? can you brief me?

Mateo

software center -> edit -> software sources -> other software -> what is listed there?

Seth

The output of ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d would be helpful too.

Kalpit

source.list.d is giving outpu : google-chrome.list google-chrome.list.save

@Mateo some of the options were uncheck and i tick all of them and now its updating cache it seems

Seth

8:34 PM

how about apt-cache policy php5-common phpmyadmin php5-mysql.

Mateo

well, ok. not really what we were going for.

Seth

Please paste the entire output into chat.

Kalpit

php5-common:
  Installed: 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.15
  Candidate: 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.15
  Version table:
 *** 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.15 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     5.3.10-1ubuntu3 0
        500 in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise/main amd64 Packages
phpmyadmin:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:3.4.10.1-1
  Version table:
     4:3.4.10.1-1 0
        500 in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise/universe amd64 Packages
php5-mysql:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 5.3.10-1ubuntu3
  Version table:

Seth

I'm not really good at this stuff but something looks a little off with your php5-common..

You're running 12.04?

Kalpit

yeah

i have tried with apt-get php5-common but its saying you are running updated version

Seth

8:40 PM

Can you get apt-get check too please?

Kalpit

sure

Seth

Even if we can't fix it now, editing that info into your question will help someone else get you an answer.

Kalpit

8:56 PM

problem solved

Thanks @Seth and @Mateo

this has solve my problem
software center -> edit -> software sources -> other software ->

some of the options were not ticked so it was not allowing to install new packages

Mateo

well, glad that worked, not sure how, but it is good you are back on track

Kalpit

yeah it was breaking my head from last 1 hour and finally got ride of it

Seth

Glad you got it fixed :)

Kalpit

:)

Nathan Osman

11:34 PM

o/

hbdgaf

o/

Anything interesting today?

Nathan Osman

Playing Christmas music... does that count?

hbdgaf

I hope you enjoy it. I've grown through my work in retail to detest the holidays.

Nathan Osman

11:49 PM

I hear you - I can't stand what they're playing in stores either. Here's what I'm listening to: play.google.com/music/m/B7uck5vyfvlb6zt6j5r5lboi7bq

It's not your typical gentle Christmas music.

hbdgaf

The only "christmasy" music that I still like it mannheim steamroller and a couple of renditions of greensleeves

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