TeX, LaTeX and Friends

12:13 AM

Can you explain what could cause the "[groupWork]" reference not working with \addbibresource{...} ... \cite{myRef} ... \printbibliography

David Carlisle

so @egreg as you are our resident language expert, how many languages can tex have (and is it different in e or pdf or lua or xe tex)

@hhh user error?

hhh

12:37 AM

@DavidCarlisle I have no idea, it is the poster.tex file here. I hope you could check it up...

unzip and inside the folder, I am using biber

David Carlisle

@hhh sorry too late at night to be downloading zip, besides I'm trying to answer the above (since egreg's not here:-)

hhh

ou no, I have to get this ready fast -- I hate to do hacks to Latex :(

It cannot be hard thing, I am just too tired to spot err :(

David Carlisle

@hhh the world is in fact round, ask a question on the site and someone on the sunny side of it may answer

hhh

It can take a long time to make MWE X(

1st time doing a poster in LaTex...

and had to hack code of another person...

I hate to be in group work with 3 people where you are the only person able to get things done, the overloading of work just kills you X(

hhh

1:09 AM

Had to forward it here, will do the MWE later -- now just in hurry.

cfr

@PauloCereda Really, you wouldn't. There must be someone you'd enjoy interviewing more than me...

@egreg A byddai popeth yn mynd i'r chwith!

hhh

Can someone say which setting is messing up all of my references/Figure numbers?

\documentclass[final]{beamer}
\usepackage{biblatex}
\usepackage[orientation=portrait,size=a0, scale=1.1]{beamerposter}
\geometry{hmargin=2.5cm}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\linespread{1.1}
\usepackage[export]{adjustbox}
\usepackage{parskip}
\usepackage{adjustbox}
\usetheme{ntnuposter} % Poster style

% Default plot settings
\pgfplotsset{legend style={fill=black!8!white,
at={(0.5,-0.25)},
anchor=north,
legend cell align=left,
legend columns=2,
column sep=0.3cm,
font=\footnotesize}}
\pgfplotsset{width=\textwidth, height=8cm}

(I got this code from my friend and I need to fix things such as refererences, figure label/ref things... but some setting messes things up)

David Carlisle

1:28 AM

@cfr وكل شيء سيذهب إلى اليسار!

cfr

@DavidCarlisle الشيء بالضبط.

cfr

2:22 AM

@hhh Add an MWE to your question on the site and somebody will help you. You are spending more time explaining why you don't have time to create an MWE than it would to construct one ;).

Sean Allred

2:46 AM

Just as a conversation point – I consider this site to be the premier example of good behavior and very much in accordance with what StackExchange is all about (even as it isn't of the Trilogy). As most of you know, github.com/vermiculus/stack-mode is making awesome progress, but ethical concerns over elisp scripting have started popping up.

We're going to put up a short 'code of honor' of sorts on the authentication landing page (anything that writes content to the site must be authenticate – no anonymous posting). What would you put there?

David Z

8:39 AM

Can anyone confirm or refute that detexify is broken? I'm getting a server error after drawing something in the box, but I don't know whether something about my browser is a contributing factor. It's Firefox 31 on Linux (with NoScript etc.)

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred We are emacs, resistance is futile. You'll be stacked.

2

egreg

@DavidZ It seems broken also from Safari.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidZ ~~David, you broke the site!~~ Loading forever for me after I draw a duck in the box. :)

Firefox 33.1 in Linux.

Still loading! Yay!

Paulo Cereda

8:54 AM

Unexpected trip to SP, here I go! See ya guys, later! :)

David Carlisle

9:52 AM

@JosephWright have you looked at language allocation?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle You mean for babel?

David Carlisle

10:08 AM

@JosephWright no at the engine level. plain tex allocates \newlanguage up to 256 and etex.sty doesn't change that but the texbook (and as far as I can tell, TeX) takes a <number> for \setlanguage which can be rather greater than 256 so I'm trying to understand why the allocation is restricted

@JosephWright texbytopic says tex can have at most 256 hyphenation patterns...

@JosephWright I can't see any such restriction in the texbook, I suppose I should look in tex.web :(

@d set_cur_lang==if language<=0 then cur_lang:=0
  else if language>255 then cur_lang:=0
  else cur_lang:=language

@JosephWright source is more revealing than documentation ^^^^ :-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Of course

@DavidCarlisle Probably 255 languages is enough anyway

David Carlisle

10:23 AM

@JosephWright More than enough for me:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes

@DavidCarlisle Like inserts, I think this one wasn't considered

egreg

11:03 AM

@DavidCarlisle if the language number is negative or greater than 255, TeX does as if \language=0.

It's in the TeXbook, page 455

David Carlisle

11:19 AM

@egreg so it is. (It was easier to find in tex.web:-)

Joseph Wright

11:35 AM

@DavidCarlisle So leave that alone then :-)

@DavidCarlisle If of course we ever get to an agreement

David Carlisle

12:06 PM

@JosephWright running code wins agreements (especially if you check it in:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Well yes: that's what's actually happened with XeTeX/LuaTeX, for a start

LaRiFaRi

1:39 PM

Difficult off-topic question: Does anyone know some Kanji font which looks ok with EB Garamond (or Linux Libertine if easier)? I wanted to ping Leo Liu but he is not in chat.

I don't want to download a bunch of them and test each.... so maybe someone had to typeset something alike in the past.

Please do not do any research, which I could do for my self. Thanks.

Johannes_B

2:05 PM

@LaRiFaRi Do we have chinese.SX? You could ask in their chat room.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B wrong country:-)

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle I bet @LaRiFaRi got the idea behind anyways.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B :-)

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle CJK is all the same.

@DavidCarlisle If my life would depend on it, i couldn't read it.

Who is crazy first

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Q: Is it possible to use just a single equation of conservation of energy for box dropped onto the conveyor belt?

A conveyor belt moves at a constant speed $v_0$ driven by a motor. A box of mass $m$ is dropped gently onto the conveyor belt from a relative short altitude (such that its vertical velocity is zero). The coefficient of kinetic friction between the conveyor belt and the box is $\mu_k$. After slipp...

homework-and-exercises

David Carlisle

2:17 PM

@Johannes_B well sort of, it's like saying scotland is same as england, in some contexts it might be true but in others you are stirring up a few thousand years of history best not stirred...

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle It was meant as a joke, the vietnamese alphabet is much more user friendly to a western eye.

I have to learn vietnamese some day.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B not if you are english and find those accenty thingies strange anyway: having four or five per letter....

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle At least you don't get lost at the train station so easy. ;-)

But i guess the japanese have latin transcription for important signs, right?

Johannes_B

3:27 PM

saildart.org/XMAS.TEX%5BTEX,DEK%5D

Sean Allred

3:48 PM

@PauloCereda You will be assimilated. We are emacs. You will be assimilated. We are emacs.

Enthusiastic Student

4:02 PM

Hi all... :)

hhh

Could someone help me with this references prob here, I really want to get it solved -- it is very easy but I cannot notice the err :(

Johannes_B

@EnthusiasticStudent Hi

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B I assume you were not invited:-)

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle No, i wasn't born back then.

David Carlisle

@hhh well have you run biber?

hhh

4:13 PM

Yes!

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B I'm not sure that is a valid excuse

hhh

In TexPad. Do I need to run it also in commandline?

Johannes_B

@hhh What does the blg file say? Can you show us?

@DavidCarlisle DEK is some sort of genius, but looking into the future? I think this is feature of iTeX bingeling though.

hhh

@Johannes_B there is no blg file :(

So it means Biber has not run?

egreg

@hhh pdflatex file, then biber file, then pdflatex file.

Johannes_B

4:15 PM

@hhh Are you sure? Maybe the file ending is hidden by your os. If there really is no blg, you haven't run biber.

39

Q: Biblatex with Biber: Configuring my editor to avoid undefined citations

Running the minimal example \documentclass{article} \usepackage{filecontents} \begin{filecontents*}{\jobname.bib} @ARTICLE{example, author = {Other, Anthony Norman}, title = {Some things I did}, year = {2014}, journal = {J.~Irrep. Res.}, volume = {1}, number = {1}, pages ...

biblatex biber editors big-list ide

egreg

@hhh The correct type should be @online, not @webpage

hhh

@Johannes_B dropbox.com/s/2pa82z9c3q344q5/poster.tex.blg?dl=0

(I got it after pdflatex, biber, pdflatex -- for some reason TexPad did not work...)

[0] 554906f9.pm:318> INFO - This is Biber 1.8
[1] 554906f9.pm:321> INFO - Logfile is 'poster.tex.blg'

It is not getting compiled despite I run it without TexPad with "$ pdflatex poster; biber poster; pdflatex poster"

Iplodman

Gud' evening!

Or morning.

Whatever you choose! :)

How are we all on this fine day?

hhh

@egreg I fixed that but it did not get the doc compiled :(

David Carlisle

4:30 PM

@Iplodman we're all miserable and it's afternoon :-)

Johannes_B

@hhh You have to omit the file ending when calling biber.

hhh

@Johannes_B I tested that with "$ pdflatex poster; biber poster; pdflatex poster" but it did not work :(

Johannes_B

@hhh biber NameOfYourMainDocumentWOFileEnding

hhh

Is that what you mean?

David Carlisle

@hhh things don't just "not work" what error or warning do you get on the terminal or in the log for biber or latex?

Johannes_B

4:32 PM

@hhh `$ pdflatex poster` *press enter and wait*
`$ biber poster` *press enter and wait*
*repeat first step*

hhh

I did that and it did not fix the err

I removed all blg files and tried again, no change, references not getting compiled -- irritating :/

I removed all xml files blg files, no difference.

Johannes_B

@hhh Please compile the following example as is with the steps mentions before. Call the file hhhBiberMwe.tex and run pdflatex hhhBiberMwe; biber hhhBiberMwe and again the pdflatex run.

\documentclass{scrartcl}
\usepackage[style=authoryear,backend=biber]{biblatex}
\addbibresource{biblatex-examples.bib}
\begin{document}
Zitiere Onlinequelle: \cite{ctan,markey}\par
Zitiere Buch: \cite{companion}\par
Zitiere Artikel: \cite{springer}
\printbibliography
\end{document}

hhh

Yeah but I am missing the biblatex-examples.bib file?

Faheem Mitha

Does anyone happen to know why the sections.lco or section.lco file is not included in TeX Live? See for example: tex.stackexchange.com/a/25064/3406

Johannes_B

@hhh No, your not, it is on your system somewhere.

hhh

4:40 PM

@Johannes_B Is this working?

Johannes_B

@hhh After caling biber hhhBiberMwe a file called hhhBiberMwe.blg should have been produced, please show it ( you can open it using any text editor).

hhh

$ cat test.blg
[0] 554906f9.pm:318> INFO - This is Biber 1.8
[0] 554906f9.pm:321> INFO - Logfile is 'test.blg'

(I named the file to test.tex)

Johannes_B

@hhh Ok, there is obviously something wrong. The current version should be 1.9, so i thing it would be best to do an update to start troubleshooting ;-)

@FaheemMitha Can you read the german explanations or do you need a translation?

hhh

What is the way to install Biber to OSX?

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B There's a german explanation?

Ok, I'll try Google Translate. Though it usually sucks.

Johannes_B

4:44 PM

@FaheemMitha Sorry, i was referring to the linked file -> komascript.de/sections.lco

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Yes, I got that

Joseph Wright

@hhh MacTeX is the easiest way

@hhh You can do it by hand but it's tedious

David Carlisle

@hhh it comes with texlive so just install texlive (or mactex or whatever it's called in osx and update)

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Ok, having looked at the translation, I don't see an explanation, What am I missing?

hhh

@JosephWright I installed the newest MacTex a little time ago (like 3 days ago) from there tug.org/mactex/downloading.html

Johannes_B

4:47 PM

@FaheemMitha I just looked at the codde, having seen the code of the author i can tell one thing (i guess): He implemented this because a user needed it, in a rather quick and dirty way. So the code is more of a experimental feature.

Joseph Wright

@hhh In that case you should have Biber installed: did you run the TeX Live Manager to grab updates?

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Ok.

hhh

@JosephWright what is that?

(I have never about a manager)

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha I know that a new package called scrletter.sty is being tested right now, giving you the capabilities of letter features in article/report documents.

Joseph Wright

@hhh It's a GUI installed as part of MacTeX for running the update process: the DVD/download version of MacTeX is frozen once a year, so any changes since then will not be on your system

Faheem Mitha

4:49 PM

@Johannes_B Interesting. is it in TeX Live?

hhh

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha No, it is still in private testing. You have to write a mail to the author and request the file.

hhh

(I have OSX Yosemite, something wrong in installation?)

Johannes_B

@hhh I guess you need root access

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B hmm I have cygwin texlive 2014 and biber --version says 1.5 is that bad? :-)

Faheem Mitha

4:50 PM

@Johannes_B Ok

Joseph Wright

@hhh There are some issues with Yosemite

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle Don't tell anyone, i am still running TL13. Psssst! :-)

Joseph Wright

@hhh I have it working but don't remember the detail: can check once I'm at my Mac at home, but not at the moment

hhh

@JosephWright that would be useful, I will wait. I want to get biber running -- it is awesome :)

Johannes_B

It seems that Yosemite breaks a lot of stuff.

hhh

4:56 PM

(I wish Apple had some perfectionist consistent never-giving-up dictator back...yes it also messed up my Matlab, I am becoming so irritated to reporting bugs over Apple.SE and this kind of things -- perhaps some Apple workers could create a new company called Apple 2 :D)

-

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Certainly breaks some things

Adam Liter

5:14 PM

@hhh I'm on a Mac right now, and I get the same error you see in System Preferences. However, I haven't had any problems updating my TeX distro with TeX Live Utility. If you just search TeX Live Utility in Spotlight, you should see it come up. After you open it, it will allow you to update all of your packages.

hhh

@AdamLiter Amaazing! Thank you! It is now updating -- hopefully this fixes the prob :D

Adam Liter

@hhh No problem! The TeX pane in System Preferences allows you to switch to older TeX Live distros if you have them installed on your computer still. It's unfortunate that it's not (yet) working in Yosemite, but it shouldn't affect your ability to update packages. So hopefully this works for you!

Joseph Wright

@AdamLiter Ah yes, now of course I remember

hhh

I updated all files at the same time bro, thank you for encouraging -- I cannot wai to share this with my friends, so many people have become so passionate about LaTex in my uni after I have started to share all of my works w sources to them -- cutting the learning curve. Together you go far in this world and fix any puzzle whatever :D

Adam Liter

5:41 PM

@hhh Glad to hear that the use of LaTeX is spreading! :)

@JosephWright Yeah, any idea if a bug report has been filed on this? I don't know where MacTeX bug stuff lives. I can Google it really quickly, I suppose.

Joseph Wright

@AdamLiter Dick Koch is well aware of it

hhh

I got references working after updating with Tex Live Utility in OSX :D

Hurray! Now it does not look 100% best because references took more space than initially, ideas to fix it?

Joseph Wright

@hhh You are going to have to drop something

@hhh The third column has a big block of text: remember it's not a paper

hhh

Or what about making spacing and font smaller for refenences?

Adam Liter

@JosephWright Ah, yeah, just found documentation of it at tug.org/mactex/yosemite.html Thanks!

David Carlisle

5:45 PM

@hhh are your first two columns really off the page or is that an artifact of the way you made the image?

Joseph Wright

@hhh Well yes but think about the reader

hhh

@JosephWright good point...I did a fascinating finding there not found before...

(so I got a bit long in my writing)

hhh

6:01 PM

@JosephWright thank you for encouraging: I left out mentioning the big firms that had messed up in their DIACS, damping systems -- something to be remembered :D

hhh

6:12 PM

What is the way to get the date to the poster?

I tried \maketitle, well I think that is good enough -- you better have two sided poster. I think it is important to have the date somewhere...

What do you think: does it matter if the poster has text just until the very very last inch?

Actually it is just Chrome that shows it like that, it looks nice in pdf reader :)

Iplodman

@DavidCarlisle Sad to hear it!

hhh

do you think this looks nice? Why does it make references to look like that in poster? with that kind of star?!

I would like to get the references word inside the lines and the blue thing, how can I do it? I use Biber Beamer template.

David Carlisle

@Iplodman :-)

hhh

Perhaps it is defined by the NTNU template, better not to change it :D

hhh

6:49 PM

@AdamLiter tex.stackexchange.com/a/212649/2956, moved your comment to community answer. Thank you again. Things are working now beautifully :)

@JosephWright And I got the problem fixed so no need to check things up at home, thank you for helping me as well :)

Adam Liter

@hhh Glad I could be of assistance! :)

Paulo Cereda

Cannot wait to get home. Still 2 hours to go.

percusse

7:25 PM

@PauloCereda The bike?

Paulo Cereda

@percusse: on the bus talking with a cute girl with at least 3 piercings. :)

Thankfully I am open minded. :)

I am returning home from SP.

Christian Hupfer

Good maen

Joseph Wright

7:41 PM

@ChristianHupfer Hello

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright: Hello

Paulo Cereda

Hello live from a bus.

The cute pierced girl says hallo as well. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda :-)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: This is the Klingon empire ... we use vim to control the energy on our moon Praxis....oops... Praxis exploded :-P

percusse

@PauloCereda One for the arara?

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Q: Compile a document as "draft" for the first few times and then non-draft in the final round

I'm working on a big document in which there are many images. Usually, I compile it with latexmk and it works quite well. But: with all these images it's quite slow when compiling. Is it somehow possible to compile it as a draft for the first few rounds and then as a non-draft, so the images ar...

compiling latexmk

Paulo Cereda

8:07 PM

@percusse: yep. :) But the OP uses latexmk.

Iplodman

8:37 PM

@PauloCereda I wrote another poem for my English homework. Want to hear it? (Note: it's about lynching; a fairly dark topic)

(Forgot to ping :c)

Out of interest, is there a way to check if argument x passed to some command is of a specific value?

egreg

8:53 PM

@PauloCereda Will you come home with a piercing?

Iplodman

@egreg I reckon a rubber duck with a piercing would look sweeet!

egreg

@Iplodman It depends on where the piercing is. :-O

@Iplodman It depends. Recognizing if an argument has the syntax for a <number> is not really easy.

Iplodman

@egreg I've seen some Qs on that. I'm more looking for a way of seeing if it's a specific value, like 0 or 1.

@egreg A ducky eyebrow piercing?

egreg

@Iplodman If the user's input is suitably restricted, it can be easier.

@Iplodman \ifnum#1=0 \itszero\else\itsone\fi

Iplodman

It should always be 0 or 1.

Ah! Thankyou! C:

*Thank you c:

Can I write packages in C or something like that?

egreg

9:02 PM

@Iplodman Be careful that the space after 0 is significant and can be the difference from success (with the space) and disaster (without).

David Carlisle

@Iplodman no, tex's more fun than C anyway

Iplodman

Gah on both counts.

C isn't my language of choice.

egreg

@Iplodman If you click on the right arrow at the far end of a line, the new line will appear as a followup and the other user will be notified

Iplodman

On a mobile, so it's a little difficult ;)

I've been doing that for a long time, but thanks for the help!

The mobile site is actually very good, but I might make a feature request for easy replies on MSE.

egreg

@Iplodman I see.

@DavidCarlisle Amateurish attempt. :P tex.stackexchange.com/questions/212656/how-do-i-avoid-eqnarray

David Carlisle

9:17 PM

@egreg I prefer it without the centering:-)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I too, but that's not the OP's will.

David Carlisle

@egreg anyway I have used up all my professional tex expertise this evening on this one tex.stackexchange.com/a/212645/1090

@egreg Never trust the OP's judgement.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle That's in line with your level of TeX skill.

David Carlisle

@egreg I was quite proud of it

egreg

@DavidCarlisle You should. That's as much good you can do. /pernacchio

@Iplodman Don't worry, we're serious. :)

David Carlisle

9:28 PM

@egreg I know that word. I'm good at Italian, remember.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Il più grande scrittore di pacchetti dell'universo /pernacchio

David Carlisle

@egreg 😛

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I believed Britons had a fine sense of humour.

David Carlisle

@egreg and a fine grasp of Unicode

@egreg had a chance to break the code in email yet?

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Yes, copying from the starred message on the right.

David Carlisle

9:34 PM

@egreg nope using emacs of course:-)

Iplodman

@egreg Why so serious? Or what's the reason you bring it up?

egreg

@Iplodman I was afraid you thought @DavidCarlisle and I were joking. ;-)

@Iplodman You know, you've been here for just a short time.

David Carlisle

@Iplodman If there are no interesting questions to answer on site, we pass the time by being rude to each other (or at least, egreg is rude to me, I'm never rude of course)

egreg

@Iplodman I have to keep @DavidCarlisle occupied, or he would flood the site with \zz based answers.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Home at last! :) No piercing so far, only a telephone number. :)

egreg

9:43 PM

@PauloCereda Wow! The piercing will arrive before Christmas!

percusse

@PauloCereda Is it hers?

egreg

@PauloCereda What about the bike?

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Yes sir! :)

@egreg I'm still waiting for the shop to come collect it. Then they will send me the correct one. :)

percusse

@PauloCereda For a moment I thought you got the number of the piercing place

Paulo Cereda

@percusse LOL

percusse

9:47 PM

@PauloCereda You has mail

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Roger!

Iplodman

I have been on SE and SO for a long time. This wasn't the first room I joined >:)

percusse

@Iplodman Did you knock?

Iplodman

A true gentleman always knocks, and I cinsider my self to be quite the Brit!

@DavidCarlisle Hey, I knew I remembered you from somewhere!

3

Q: How can I use a LaTeX .sty file to get output from a Python file?

I'm currently working on a package that supposedly takes the output of a function in a Python script, and adds it to the PDF. For example, one function may scrape data from a website automatically, so that the PDF can be automatically updated and uploaded to a server without human intervention. ...

packages python

*consider (Can't edit on mobile)

percusse

@Iplodman so

if gentleman:
    yield door

Iplodman

9:57 PM

key_to_gentlemanship = [self.offer_help() for event in lady.mishaps]

I love list comprehension.

percusse

@clairevoyance
def gentleman(self):
    return self.confidence

David Carlisle

@Iplodman see I'm as natural at picking up computer languages as I am at human ones,

Iplodman

@DavidCarlisle ;)

> It's rare to see someone like me-
a gentleman of the third degree,
a wit and a poet,
and god damn you know it!
I'll always hold the door for thee.

#ChallengeAccepted

Iplodman

10:13 PM

I wish I had some musical talent.

cfr

11:01 PM

Does anybody know much about creating dynamic trees in forest? I created one as an answer and I'm wondering if I'm doing it right, even though it has already attracted half as many votes as @DavidCarlisle's project of the day.

David Carlisle

11:18 PM

@cfr @PeterGrill is our resident tree expert

Peter Grill

@DavidCarlisle Yeah, but not forests :-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Maybe Christian who lives in the Black Forest. So it's basically florest and xcolor. :)

cfr

@PeterGrill It is the dynamic bit I'm not sure of. I'm worried my tree may grow branches at inopportune angles or suddenly decide to shed its leaves in July.

@PeterGrill [The OP's tree is being generated automagically by something or other.]

percusse

11:44 PM

egreg

11:55 PM

@percusse Best program for Windoze.

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