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7:58 AM
@PeterTaylor Oh yeah, I know what you mean. I've got quite few projects that I never really finished, because the next project came around that seemed more interesting at the time.
 
 
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1:03 PM
Fun fact: Less than one in fifty people electrocuted gain electricity-related superpowers.
 
Stack Exchange finally helped me answer that stupid question, "What super power would you have if you could have any one you wanted?"
I want the power to change the last 5 minutes of my own actions.
 
uh oh
 
You have a counter argument? Let me go back and modify my original argument.
 
and the first thing you would do (5 minutes ago) would be change the last 5 minutes before that? :D
 
OH wow. You have unlocked a whole new level of my power.
 
1:14 PM
Douglas Hofstadter would be proud
at least your superpower would be limited to a) your own actions and b) by extension your own lifetime
(or the timespan over which you had the power, if it wasn't something you were born with)
 
While it sounds fun, Curtis might be able to tell you it doesn't always work out so well.
 
If I change my actions, then whatever I did previously is gone, so I can't keep returning to a single point to teach myself stuff
 
Well how is the changing your actions supposed to work then? If you don't return there with the knowledge about what you want to change?
 
No I mean... If I broke a glass and I go back and change it, then I have no longer broken the glass
If I learn calculus and then I go back and learn Physics, then I feel like I would forget calculus right?
Or have I actually become immortal because I can live in my own past and keep learning new things?
If so, then this is the sweetest immortality ever because I can choose to die whenever I want
 
Well, if you experience a sudden death (unexpected bullet to the head), it won't help very much.
 
1:20 PM
@Geobits unless you're quick enough to change the few minutes before that to avoid walking into the path of bullet
 
I'd say the sweetest immortality is just a general godlike power.
 
@Rusher Bad example. You can't really learn physics without learning calculus. It's why calculus was invented in the first place.
 
@m.buettner Yeah, the death would have to be sudden and unexpected I imagine.
 
@Rusher I think your power is underspecified.
 
Voting to close as unclear what your power is.
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1:22 PM
@PeterTaylor You can't prove most of physics without learning calculus. However, you can still learn Physics by accepting that what the book says is true.
 
(I also have to say that I much prefer time-travel stories with stable time loops to unstable ones).
 
I hate those movies that end where they began. Sure it makes more sense... but ugh.
 
Ok, I don't have time now for a philosophical discussion on what "learn[ing] physics" really means.
 
@Rusher If you lost the knowledge you gained in the last five minutes, then when you jumped back you wouldn't know what to change.
You kinda have to keep the knowledge if it's to be useful at all.
 
I wouldn't have to change it anymore because I already did
 
1:24 PM
You might end up oscillating between two options
The grass is always greener...
 
Oh that would be super disappointing :(
 
Why would you do x over y once you jumped back? Because you knew y was a bad idea, so you have to keep that memory or else you'd just end up doing y again.
 
@PeterTaylor By stable and unstable you mean, where changes in the past can affect the present or not?
 
I think a stable loop is one that ends where it begins every time
An unstable loop changes
@Geobits I think you convinced me that I have to have some recollection of what it is that I came back to change.
votes to reopen power.
Doorknob, you have the power to reopen with a single vote right? I need your power.
 
You don't need to vote to reopen, just go back and change the original spec. Isn't that the whole purpose of the power? ;)
 
1:28 PM
Omg you and Buettner are my sidekicks. You know me better than I do!
 
Do we get any powers, except telling you how to use your power?
 
@m.buettner Rusher's got it: a stable loop may mean that actions you take in the past affect your present, but they don't change it.
The British TV sitcom Red Dwarf has examples of both types of loop.
 
How can you affect the present without changing it? That sounds like a rather philosophical difference to me.
 
Stable loop: Lister is his own father. After he is born, he travels back in time to leave himself in a box under the pool table in a bar.
 
@m.buettner You have to come up with something original. It's a popularity contest with Geobits, Peter Taylor, @ProgrammerDan, and CJY as the judges. If we don't think it's original it doesn't count.
 
1:32 PM
Hmm... I keep hearing of this Red Dwarf show. Good enough to recommend binge-watching it?
 
Wait a second
How is that stable?
Wouldn't the gene pool become more and more Lister?
 
Unstable loop: after they accidentally knock the JFK assassin and spoil his aim, they have to persuade JFK himself to go back and shoot from the grassy knoll.
 
Lol Geobits. Binge watch or no watch is the rule of this generation.
 
@Geobits Variable. Watch the first two episodes: if you think they're ok, then it gets better. If you think they're utter crap, you won't want to keep watching.
 
I like British tv in general, so I'll give it a shot.
 
1:34 PM
Alternatively, buy the books. They're not entirely consistent with the TV series, but they're good relatively standalone reads.
@m.buettner Stable time loops are necessarily paradoxical: there's a cause and a later effect, but the effect then leads (via time travel) to the cause.
@Rusher No. At any instant in time, there are no more than two of him.
 
Sounds like a good slogan for books in general for this day and age: Not entirely consistent with the TV series
 
I mean the first baby is half Lister half Mother (HLHM). When he fathers himself, the new baby is Half HLHM, Half Mother (which is now 1/4 Lister, 3/4 Mother).
So actually it's the opposite of what I said lol.
The baby after that is 7/8 Mom 1/8 Lister
Eventually the gene pool converges to mom and Lister goes away
 
On a completely unrelated note: OP has now deleted codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/32027 . Although it had problems, the underlying task (planar graph drawing) is an interesting one, and hasn't been asked before.
 
404 error
For most of us anyway
 
@Rusher That assumes random gene selection, but because we know it's a loop, the half of Lister's genes which are contributed are always the same. The paradoxical thing is: where did they come from in the first place?
 
1:39 PM
@PeterTaylor I noticed that, yes. Maybe if a mod superpinged him, we could convince him to run it through the sandbox first.
 
Ok. I'm convinced that MBA is the way to go. Our branching and merging policies don't make any sense at all.
It's like we are in a stable loop. We botch a branch. We spend all day merging it manually. We botch it again. We spend another day merging.
 
2:20 PM
Lol every time our build server runs out of space we get a nice email:

-[Fou]
"I've had it. I quit."
 
hmm, got this idea for a king-of-the-hill... a multiplayer game of life in a finite grid where the winner is the last one alive, considering living cells belong to the player that created them and death to life transition inherits the parent if possible...
 
@SirDarius Did you post this in the sandbox before?
Because that has been in the sandbox.
 
not yet
 
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A: Proposed Question Sandbox - Mark XI (retired)

Wander NautaIt's Life, Jim, but not as we know it You probably know Conway's Game of Life, the famous cellular automaton invented by mathematician John Conway. Life is a set of rules that, together, allow you to simulate a two-dimensional board of cells. The rules decide which cells on the board live and w...

 
oh really ? sweet lol
too bad it has never left the sandbox
maybe I can take over
 
2:25 PM
leave him a comment if he intends to keep working on it, and if so suggest that he should migrate it to a newer sandbox
 
What if a cell has parents from multiple players?
 
the sandoxed post proposes not to make them alive in the first place
 
Ooooh, hybrid cells that count for each player the proportion that spawned them.
 
I thought about random parent
 
The calculations for proportions will drag your game down so fast.
 
2:27 PM
@Geobits that would get adorably messy :D
 
First gen makes a halfling, which then breeds with a pureblood to give 3/4 for one player, 1/4 for the other ^^
 
for a large enough grid, that shouldn't make a difference (if the randomness takes into account how many parents there are from each player)
 
It would absolutely get messy. That's why I like it.
 
Eventually you end up with a cell that is 0.03% P1, 5.234463489% P2, .... , 2.534534534% P20
And you have to divide all of them by half and then the other guys by half, and then add like terms to get the child
And you have to do that for 500 cells
 
Yea but you could "culturally" take over another player and inherit all their halfling cells when they had no purebloods left.
I think it would add a crazy twist to it.
 
2:31 PM
So after it stabilizes and every cell is a hybrid of all players, numNewChildrenPerIteration * (numPlayers * numAvgParentsPerChild) * numIterationsRemaining
I guess that isn't really all that bad
 
I think what you should definitely do differently than in his proposal is make enemy cells kill your own (I think you intended that anyway, if you were going for "be the last one left"). Otherwise this just amounts to plastering the grid with the most densely packed stable shape you can think of.
 
@m.buettner yeah that's the twist I had in mind, not only try to survive but actively try to kill stable enemy shapes
 
I've been wanting to see a scoreboard based on kills rather than survival for a KOTH challenge. I think this is a perfect opportunity (instead of "most cells alive at the end")
Otherwise the community will generate yet another set of CowardlyBots
 
@Rusher how do you determine who killed a cell if it died due to adjacent cells from multiple enemies?
 
That's why I made mine with hunger (you have to eat to live, can't just sit still or run). It still ended with survival, but there was nothing cowardly about them.
 
2:47 PM
also in the solar system cowardly bots will probably not do very well
 
The only ones I can think of where cowardly was a viable strategy are Wolf and BattleBots, and I'm not sure that cowardly actually won either of them.
Got my first Nice Answer on a non-programming, non-meta site :) skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/22025/19407
 
@m.buettner The killers get an equal split for the kill.
 
okay, why not
 
That also means that if P1 had two cells involved in the murder and P2 has 1 cell, P1 gets .67 kills and P2 gets .33 I guess
New challenge posted! Lets move the mars rover!
Poor kid. Knows he is almost banned but keeps on truckin' anyway.
 
Would be much better as a golf.
 
2:58 PM
So this kid just made me realize a reason why sandboxing on main might be a bad idea.
If you sandbox like 3-4 challenges on main and never update them, you'll be banned from asking questions
 
Good point. Even if you do update them and they're just flops and don't pan out, they would count against you.
 
when do you get banned from asking questions?
 
It's a semi-secret formula based on downvoted questions, deleted questions, etc. I don't know the hard numbers for it.
 
ah okay
I didn't know that was a thing
 
is that a stackexchange-wide thing, or only here ?
 
3:02 PM
SE wide
 
SE-wide; it kicks in automatically, too. I you hang out on meta.so/se, you'll frequently see questions like "why did I get banned?"
In the same way, enough bad answers will trigger an answer-ban.
 
And now it's . Go go go! Atttaaaaaack!
 
3:32 PM
@Rusher qban is disabled on code golf.
(/cc @Geobits @m.buettner)
 
Did you make that happen or is that a beta thing?
 
It's off by default.
It has to be turned on manually by a dev.
 
Cool, didn't know that.
 
I tried to sign up on Arqade, clicked "Sign in with Google", and got flagged as suspicious
I just wanted to comment on a MC post. I'm a block of dirt. How is that suspicious?
 
:D
you should totally go rep farming on arqade MC posts. "I'm a block of dirt. Your argument is invalid."
 
4:09 PM
0
Q: Incorrect delete vote count

ProgramFOXThe count of delete votes needed to delete a post is not always correct. The "delete" tab in the tools said that a question needed 2 votes, but the tooltip of the "delete" link said this: And after voting to delete it, it wasn't deleted, now it says that it needs one more delete vote. This app...

 
@ProgramFOX What post was the one you were asking about in that question?
I might be able to magic up a mod timeline
 
@Doorknob It was this one.
And I see the same for this one, which also needs 2 more delete votes.
 
Are you saying that this occurs to you often? You delete vote and it doesn't increment the count?
 
@Rusher That is not the problem. The problem is: a question requires 2 more delete votes but it shows it needs just one more.
 
@ProgramFOX Hm, weird.
The mod timeline isn't magicy enough; it only shows close/reopen votes individually (not delete votes)
 
4:18 PM
@ProgramFOX That question is gone. Deleted.
 
@Rusher Because it received another delete vote after time.
 
Are you sure about that?
 
> deleted by Quincunx, ProgramFOX, Kyle Kanos 14 mins ago
 
Yes, people that can see deleted questions can see who delete voted it.
 
I feel like I feel when I'm arguing with testing over some conspiracy theory they dreamed up.
You probably had a cached version of the page with 1 vote left.
Which is most likely a result of using the back button
 
4:21 PM
@Rusher But there was never 1 vote left.
No, that's not the problem.
 
@Doorknob Uh... there is a picture of 1 vote left.
 
When you visit the question, it says "1 delete vote left" when there are really 2 delete votes left.
Then when you delete vote, it still says 1.
Because that's the correct number at that point.
 
@Doorknob Are we supposed to know that? ;)
 
@m.buettner Doesn't really matter; doesn't expose private information. :P
 
But the secret inner workings of the mod cult.
 
4:24 PM
I think ProgramFOX misread how many votes were left. Or he found a bug and the system doesn't know how to count. Or he pressed the back button and got a cached page and tried to vote again. Among those, the bug option is probably the least viable given the popularity of Stack Exchange as a whole
 
Related reading on Meta.SE : meta.stackexchange.com/questions/233537/…
 
@Rusher No. I can confirm this bug. It exists. It's a problem.
 
I stand corrected!
 
@Geobits Thanks!
 
I mean, I stand corrected about the viability of the bug. I won't eliminate the possibility of user error though.
Confirmation bias is a powerful thing...
 
5:04 PM
Wow some delivery drivers are just dumb. The same guy delivers the same order to the same building on the same day of the last three weeks. Delivery instructions say "Call before entering." He ignores that every time, and forgets to bring a receipt so that I can give him a tip. I don't have any cash, so he is just out of luck today.
 
5:31 PM
New challenge posted! Make me a sandwich!
 
Buying lunch?
 
6:09 PM
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Q: Most Preferred Input Format

RusherIf I were to pass your program an integer array as input, what format would you prefer? I understand that this question is primarily opinion-based, but it is also incredibly useful information for those of us who want to write challenges that appeal to the largest number of people.

(I waited over three minutes)
 
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Q: Most Preferred Input Format

RusherIf I were to pass your program an integer array as input, what format would you prefer? I understand that this question is primarily opinion-based, but it is also incredibly useful information for those of us who want to write challenges that appeal to the largest number of people.

 
Please be loose with your votes so we can get a large sample size
I'm not voting btw since I can't vote on my own answers.
 
It's a shame I can't cast half a vote for some of them
But if you want, I'll cast a proxy vote for you
 
Nah, because if we agree on vote then you won't be able to double
@kylekanos deleting comments in favor of using chat
Well.. after you respond I'll delete the last one
 
6:26 PM
Okay
I should have looked here first (it pinged well before I hit enter)
 
Re: Your complaint is that I assumed a particular dimension (a fair guess given the several other answers using a 3x3 as an example) when you said nothing about the particular dimension.
 
Sometimes I get way too passionate about my cool code and write an essay under "explanation". codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/32060/14509
 
Why don't you assume what the values are too?
I don't understand the logic of "size wasn't given, so must be 3x3"
 
@Rusher I didn't assert that it was necessarily 3x3, I was using it as an example just as the others had done
 
@KyleKanos Using your proposed method, how would you parse this array? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
 
6:31 PM
It can be parsed many ways
 
I think the idea is that in the question it will explain what the dimensions of the grid are.
 
1 3 5 7; 2 4 6 8
1 5; 2 6; 3 7; 4 8
 
The question might as well also explain what the values are too. That way I don't need to pass it
 
@Rusher Also a valid choice
 
sigh You understood before the conversation was even started.
 
6:32 PM
@Rusher I don't understand this message. What values? What does "pass it" mean? When did I apparently lose the ability to understand english text?
Kyle understood it so it has to be a problem with me
 
pass it = provide it as an argument to your program
 
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A: Proposed Question Sandbox - Mark XIII

JwostyWrite a program to solve equations (well, sort of; read on), taken as a command line parameter. Whitespaces are irrelevant between operators and numbers, e.g. 1+2 and 1\t + 2 (where \t is a tab) are both fine. There can be any number of variables, but they will always be one lower-case letter. Yo...

 
@Rusher: Did you ask that question for use in a KotH challenge? Or just as a general "future use" question
 
@KyleKanos For use in a KotH challenge.
The players need a history of the past rounds so that they can make an informed decision, so I'm passing it in as a two-dimensional array of integers.
 
6:36 PM
Got it
I suppose that one of those dimensions would be the number of players?
 
@KyleKanos Yup. Players x Rounds.
The elements are true or false lol.
 
So 0 & 1?
Because Fortran can handle boolean arrays :D
 
Yea, I think 0 and 1 would fit pretty well.
 
(Though we call it logical)
 
Oh. Why you need int array? Just make it separated strings: "0001000111001"
Or any number of other ways. No delimiter needed between single characters.
 
6:41 PM
Oh crap. I realized just now that my question on meta doesn't relate very well.
@Geobits Because your method works if all the values are single digit
 
Who is "your" ^
 
But w/e... I'm just gonna go with whatever gets upvoted so that anyone who is competing in multiple KotH challenges will have an easy time following
@KyleKanos Geobits
 
@Rusher Damn. :D I was hoping I was somehow right
 
@KyleKanos Just to be clear, I do agree that your method with simple spaces is fine if you know the shape is static (and is given in the question).
For anything with a variable shape, it sucks to have to also include the dimensions.
 
@KyleKanos Don't get me wrong... Geobits' method also doesn't work for the question on meta. That's why I was saying that I asked a poor question.
 
6:45 PM
@Geobits What really changes things about my answer is the column vs row major formats, as I allude to in the post.
 
@Rusher Yea, I meant it only for the chat 0/1 issue you were talking about.
Oh, I could care less about column/row as long as you tell me which it is in the question ^^
 
I thought JSON would do better. CSV is not actually a universal language. A .csv saved in notepad on a Windows machine has extra characters in it that break on a Mac. JSON isn't prone to the newline problem
But they'll open on their respective platforms just fine, even with the mess that notepad makes.
or whatever the text editor is on a mac
 
People outside of astronomers use Macs?
 
@Rusher That's because you're looking at the file format. If by CSV you actually just mean comma/newline separated values, it's the same everywhere. Unless your koth is saving it as a file and reading it in a text editor, it shouldn't matter.
 
I just thought that this was what JSON existed for.
 
6:50 PM
@Rusher unless anyone posts a format which they don't like themselves, we can just assume one implicit vote for each post
 
JSON is fine if a) your language expects it or b) you have a native library that's simple to use without taking too many characters. When you posted your question, I thought you meant across the spectrum of challenges, including code-golf.
For a KotH or code-challenge, I honestly couldn't care less what format you use as long as it's not ambiguous.
 
@undergroundmonorail I know what you mean codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/26764/8478
 
@m.buettner That doesn't really take into account all the posts I want to down vote lol. I also wouldn't down vote, but just wouldn't vote entirely on the csv one.
And then there are two I would up vote
 
I don't understand
 
He posted some just to put them out there, not because he preferred them.
 
6:52 PM
^
Ignore the part about down vote. I just misread what you said, and I could go down vote the ones I don't like no problem.
 
@Geobits yeah, which is why I qualified my suggestion with "unless ... they don't like themselves" ... anyway, doesn't matter
 
@m.buettner Yea if you ignore the part about down vote I was just confirming what you said. Sorry, I misread the first part.
 
yeah never mind
 
Yea.
Hey we spell "Yea" differently!
 
yeah
 
7:00 PM
I am apparently the one who is abusing the word. "Yeah" is correct for confirming something you said.
"Yea" is for excitement. The more you know!
 
Yeah!
 
^ Well played
 
How does one represent a csv with missing rows? Like 1,2,3\n4,5,6\n\n\n7,8,9?
 
@Rusher I think CSVs aren't meant for missing rows?
but if they do, either what you said or 1,2,3\n4,5,6\n,,\n,,\n7,8,9
although there might be a semantic difference between missing rows and rows without values
really depends on your problem, I think
 
7:22 PM
Typically a missing/empty row is just as you said, simply nothing between the newlines. A missing/empty value is nothing between commas.
 
7:37 PM
What should happen to a bot that throws an exception when I 1) instantiate them or 2) ask them to pick a side?
If I kill them immediately, then the number of players decreases for the remainder of the rounds
That would make it pretty difficult to do math
If I make a choice for them, it skews the numbers
Would it destroy the challenge if I just rolled randomly when an exception is thrown?
 
@Rusher probably
 
Option 4) Disqualify it until fixed and run the scoring again.
3
 
Good idea.
 
Obviously comment to let the poster know ;)
 
catch(Exception e) {HTMLWriter.postTo("codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/12345",findPostContaini‌​ngTitle(className),"You fucked up the program.");}
If only life were that easy :-/
 
7:45 PM
Oh please do. It would be great fun to harass you by posting a series of underhanded exceptions.
"Ok, I fixed it!" Followed by another auto-generated comment.
 
Are you harassing me or my bot?
 
Well, for any "fix" you'd update the code and run it again, right?
(not that I'd get away with it now...)
It would just be hard to resisit if every exception made a comment appear :p
 
I'd also update the code and run it again if the commenting process weren't automated, except then I'd have to manually find your post and comment.
I'd also be a lot nicer
 
Well yea, but then I wouldn't be harassing you and your bot, just you.
It's much more fun to harass machines sometimes. Chatbots included.
 
I hate how predictable chat bots are when you curse at them.
That's not very nice!
You shouldn't say things like that. If you keep it up I won't talk to you.
 
7:53 PM
Yea, lame chatbots are lame. Not all of them are quite so bad about it.
 
Ok, now say you're sorry.
If someone finds a way to, given a post number and a title (like "#CamoWolf"), post a comment on an answer with that title that says "You #$%^ed up the program!" in Java I'll use it. Seems hard at the moment.
I just Googled and was immediately horrified at the amount of code I was seeing.
Some people really know how to make Java horrifying. I don't even get how.
 
Obvious solution? Post it as a challenge and hope for at least one Java answer.
 
8:08 PM
I'll make it a and say "Be creative and use Java!"
That's a rock-solid spec as far as pop contests go.
Wow I must be tired.
for (int i = o; i < previous.length; i++) {
 
+1 if you somehow make it look like a stackoverflow-rejected-as-homework challenge.
 
Stack Overflow Rejected As Homework = SORAH
 
Stack Overflow Delegated Assignment = SODA
(or Stack Overflow Didn't Answer)
 
I'm going to use the latter, because it also works on Stack Overflow. The first only works for migrated questions
(reposting counts as migrated)
Oh wow I have been doing things wrong. (Usually I tease people like this
 
8:24 PM
No worse than the opposite)
 
You can complete it though
You can't do a damn thing about THIS
Muahahahaha
In two minutes only a mod will be able to fix this terrible thing I have done.
 
[no (big] deal)
 
eye twitch
 
ARGGGHHHH!
:P
abuses mod powers
2
 
Not cool...
 
8:41 PM
        switch(stdin.next()) {
            case "0":
                return 0;
            case "1":
                return 1;
            default:
                throw new HowHardIsItToReturnAZeroOrOneException();
        }
So it turns out that you can't pass multiline parameters in cmd line (or I can't figure out how)
So I have to pass the entire array on a single line. Looks like I'll be stealing your idea @Geobits
010 101 111
 
9:06 PM
Err I'm gonna use commas instead of spaces. Spaces separate command line args, and this is really all one argument
 
Windows is a pain about newlines that way, yes. I vaguely recall there being some roundabout way to do it, but I might be wrong.
 
You can just use quotes, according to technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee156618.aspx anyway
 
Really? I remember trying to do that when testing my BattleBot on a Windows machine, and it was not having it.
Double quotes, single quotes, various combinations of \n and \r, nothing would work for me.
 
Sadly I don't know enough windows shell scripting to actually test that theory
I know enough to stumble around powershell and thats it
And I can pretty much Google how to write batch files for whatever it is I need to do.
On the other hand, I received a formal education in Bash shell scripting, and could probably tell you two commands off the top of my head. I couldn't write a for loop using that awful syntax to save my life. Forgot everything the moment I took the final for that class.
 
That pretty much sums up what's wrong with our entire educational system :(
 
9:19 PM
I have huge respect for whoever named all the commands in BASH though.
@Geobits Hey I picked up powershell without even looking at a book. My first instinct was to start typing man, help, helpme, ?, -help
That has to count for something
Education taught me how to solve problems, not how to program.
 
I just mean that a lot of the things we need to know aren't taught, while the things we don't need to know are.
Right, education should teach how to solve problems. Often it doesn't, since it's increasingly teaching to the test.
Meanwhile, you're not generally free to learn at your own pace, and have to "keep up" with the slowest students.
It doesn't help smart kids, and it doesn't really help the not-smart ones much, either.
 
We must be discussing primary and secondary school learning, or a college that was nothing like the one I graduated from.
I'm pretty much in love with how my college handled it.
Freshman: Learn tools
Sophomore: Learn complicated tools
Junior: Apply tools
Senior: Solve real problems with tools, get judged by a real company, and if they don't like the job you did you don't graduate
 
Most of my experience is geared toward primary/secondary, yes (both as student and parent), but you saying you brain-dumped everything after taking the final seems to say it's at least partially applicable...
 
I brain dumped everything mostly because BASH is so strict on syntax
Sorry, but it really is a special case that has everything to do with that particular language
Two years before I learned BASH, I learned c++ from the exact same professor, and I could model inheritance and composition in c++ still.
 
Was the BASH class an elective or mandatory?
 
9:30 PM
Elective
I chose it because the guy teaching it really enjoys teaching
He was the sponsor of our ICPC club
 
Yea, I like teachers that like teaching :)
 
I don't understand this. "Bash" is written in allcaps, yet C++ is lowercase? :P
 
I don't understand "allcaps".
 
Isn't BASH an acronym?
 
Um, it stands for "Bourne-again shell" IIRC, but I've never seen it capitalized like that
 
9:34 PM
I just though that since UNIX is all caps and BASH is a shell for UNIX then it must be all caps so UNIX can fit in the shell.
We beat LSU when we competed in ICPC! Our team placed 11th. ld2012.scusa.lsu.edu/scoreboard-regional
A foreign guy came up with our name. Don't make fun
 
Kan I at least kontinue swapping out letters?
Either way, tons better than something generic like UT Team 1.
 
I thought the LSU name for Andre, Andrew, and David was original
Someone is trying to give me a fourth monitor and I'm like running out of space on my desk.
 
Hahaha I started reading Dilbert on January 22, 2014
 
10:18 PM
@m.buettner Seriously?! How do people not know that?
Doesn't anyone read the Bible?
 
@Rusher I started reading Dilbert in 2005 :D ... to be fair, most of the time it's rather mediocre, but every now and then there are absolute gems in there ^^
 
10:51 PM
Here's a fun comic, if anyone likes working out easy math problems. I challenge you to work it out completely in your head:
 
11:08 PM
@Quincunx Unfortunately, it's much easier if you know both her name and the obvious message. It's basically a cryptogram after only a couple letters are revealed.
 

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