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12:01 AM
It's awful blue in here.
 
12:17 AM
@ScottPack Apparently SF is superficial about security
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Q: Actually, isn't it bad to redirect http to https?

daveloyallI have a two-part question about question #570288 over on ServerFault. Question: Is it bad to redirect http to https? Accepted answer (185 up-votes): [...] Hell no. It's very good. Part 1 Is that answer, well... wrong? :) Am I correct that, from a security point of view, redirectin...

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Can't be worse than SO
 
SO tends to be ok
it's ProgSE that's usually awful
 
And U&L. That's a wretched hive of scum and assholery if I've ever seen one.
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4:24 AM
@ScottPack Look in the mirror.
 
5:07 AM
 
 
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8:41 AM
the challenge today is whether or not I can remain awake for the entire day...
 
9:23 AM
@kalina <DoctorRory> I Prescribe Caffeine and Chocolate </DoctorRory>
 
the caffeine isn't working
 
9:50 AM
@kalina try more :)
 
I can't, it won't let me
 
10:08 AM
<agile_apologist_mode>clearly you are drinking the coffee wrongly</agile_apologist_mode> :)
 
Morning
@rorym - who is cyber 10k?
 
@RoryAlsop ya know I have no idea, but some interesting people started following it so I thought I would too, in case anything interesting happened :)
@RoryAlsop the domain name cyber10k.co.uk is owned by NCC though :)
so reasonable guess that it's something they're about to come out with...
<DoctorRory>warning excessive caffeine intake can cause bad thing to happen</DoctorRory>
 
10:36 AM
Heh - I'll follow as well:-)
I'm liking this new meme, but I'd spell it Doktor Rory
 
@RоryMcCune I've reached this point every day this week
 
Oh, in other news, we have a huge spread in the Edinburgh Evening News
Once I pick up a copy I'll send a pic
 
@RoryAlsop cool !
@kalina ahh I wouldn't worry too much then, after a while your tolerance will increase :) I can drink espresso at 11pm and go straight to sleep now.
 
dear DMZ
it's time for question of the week
 
@kalina it is! I got beeped and everything
 
10:50 AM
suddenly everybody in the DMZ is inactive
go figure
 
I posted last weeks one on Monday. It can be challenging getting volunteers - actually, no, we have volunteers, but they are busy people
 
I've just got insulted by the British. Ah! The audacity!
I was trying to do something about this. I called them, and after drilling my ears with bullshit buzzwords about their product, the dude asked me "are you calling from a school?" and then I said "No". Then he hung up on me.
I think he thought I'm a student trying to get some pr0n on school's computers.
 
11:14 AM
@Adnan hmm I've tried the twitter method, see if that has any effect...
 
11:27 AM
@RоryMcCune I don't the tweety twittering thing
 
@Adnan sometimes has an impact..
 
@ThomasPornin - one for you:
 
@RоryMcCune If I tweet something and tag someone, will their followers see it?
If not, then I don't think I can have an impact with my potential followers count (1-2)
 
@Adnan if people look at mentions of a co. but that's relatively rare. The people you @ tag see it though and as they tend to be marketing/PR they can be focused on fixing bad impressions...
I've had luck with ISPs in the past taking that route..
 
11:41 AM
@Adnan got a response from smoothwall, they're looking into it :)
 
@RоryMcCune excellent - I had just retweeted your tweet
 
@RоryMcCune Fantastic!
But I'm still pissed at how rude the dude was. I don't exactly have the voice that would go with my age, but come on! "Are you calling from a school?"
 
12:09 PM
@Adnan hey take it as a compliment, perhaps you sound young for your age :)
 
12:48 PM
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A: Blocked by SmoothWall

Tom NewtonThe block has been fixed - you won't (as a non-customer) be able to use the support portal, but someone did contact us through the website contact form, and that's how we were able to spot and fix the issue. @Adnan, if you could private message me if you can remember who you talked to, I will se...

 
@CodesInChaos wow
 
1:46 PM
PSA: When you're with your loved ones and you want to enjoy a nice glass of wine, you look a round and you can't find the corkscrew. Do NOT attempt to open the bottle with a knife. Your hand will slip, and you'll run to the ER with an almost-severed pinky and a damaged ring finger.
 
1:59 PM
@Lucas, @Adnan, @AviD @RoryAlsop @RоryMcCune I have a challenge for you! febfast.org.au/alcohol
 
@TerryChia Are you insane?
A whole month without drinking?
How will I write answers on Sec.SE?! How will I come here to the DMZ?!
 
@TerryChia dude are you trying to de-rail my getting into whisky...?
 
Hmmm. Have I become The DMZ's public enemy #1?
 
@TerryChia 28 days? lol. I'm close to 28 years
 
2:12 PM
@terry - I did an alcohol free January once, and I have viewed never to do that again. It nearly ruined my life and left my wife and I with permanent injuries.
As we got hit by a drunk driver while stationary at traffic lights. If we had been drinking we would have been somewhere else, so wouldn't have found a car coming in the drivers door at 50mph
 
@CodesInChaos That's why I didn't tag you. :P
I only tagged the known alcoholics in The DMZ.
 
2:27 PM
@TerryChia lol I have a feeling that you're equating Scotsman and alcoholic.. not an unreasonable assumption but not a correct one for me :)
@RoryAlsop noice!
 
@RoryAlsop That's pretty neat. When are you retiring from the infosec scene? :P
 
2:43 PM
@TerryChia my question to you is,why in God's name would I want to do that?
wait
@RoryAlsop do you have alcohol related problems in regards to health?
or health problems in general caused by drinking alcohol?
 
2:55 PM
@LucasKauffman do you?
 
3:07 PM
Silly Terry.
 
3:25 PM
@AviD @RoryMcCune I have an auditor friend who, as part of an audit, wants to be able to process a webapp and see what kinds of external sources it's linking to. I'm having trouble coming up with which tools to tell him to look at. I'd rather not say grep the source files, or run Pharos and see what happens
 
@ScottPack Any web crawler can do that no?
If by "linking to" you mean hyperlinks.
 
@TerryChia I assume it's external CSS and JS, as well as hyperlinks
 
@Adnan I'm pretty sure web crawlers like the ones in Burp can pick up on that as well.
Or script up something more custom with python/perl/ruby etc.
 
@TerryChia Peetty well, but I'd rather point him at more proper tools.
 
3:31 PM
@ScottPack Burp? That's the defacto standard.
 
@ScottPack Use the --skip to include a RegEx describing the website's own domain, and thus you'll find everything external.
@ScottPack By default, it doesn't include .JS stuff, but I'm almost certain I have a modified version that does. If not, I can assure you it's easy to modify.
 
@ScottPack so my standard would be run a proxy (e.g. burp) browse the site, compile list of URLs visited by the site. You could automate with a crawler as mentioned but downsides relating to crawler accuracy/visibility
 
@TerryChia Sectools wasn't loading for us, but yeah looking at it now. I had forgotten about Burp
 
grep or looking at source would be v. tricky 'cause of dynamically created URLs and other Javascript weirdness
so you really need to run against an instance of the running application
 
Yeah, I mentioned scanning source, but had the same concerns.
 
3:37 PM
@ScottPack so best accuracy would be a manual review, less accurate but faster would be an automated spider (e.g. burp spider, or most web app. scanners (e.g. arachni)
 
Cool. I'll pass it along. Thanks guys.
Application security is something that we've always wanted to do but don't really have the expertise to get into it.
 
3:52 PM
@ScottPack well just read WAHH and you'll be sorted :)
(and indeed probably have done more learning that some people who claim expertise in that field :) )
 
Heh, Darth Vader and Princess Leia were on the latest TBBT episode.
 
4:07 PM
@RоryMcCune Web Application H? Handbook?
 
@ScottPack hackers
excellent book on Web app testing, not the lightest read in the universe but good all the same
 
@RоryMcCune Is it really that good? I hear it recommended a lot.
 
although perhaps starting to show its age a little (hope they're planning v3)
 
I still have a lot of tech books to go through.
Probably not a good idea to buy more.
 
@TerryChia well if you want to do web app testing I'd recommend it, it's shows you how it should be done
 
4:10 PM
@LucasKauffman Heh - problems related to someone else drinking
 
although doubt most people get time to follow their methodology all the time..
 
I still have no idea what I want to do in the future.
 
@TerryChia find iOS bugs --> retire a millionaire?
 
@RоryMcCune Heh. iOS bugs sure are worth a lot now eh?
I heard it was 1mil for a drive-by root exploit?
 
@TerryChia from the "right" people it prob. would be $150k at pwn2own pwn2own.com/2014/01/pwn2own-2014-rules-unicorns
shame for Charlie Miller, he used to get like $5000 and a laptop
now they get a lot more...
 
4:14 PM
@RоryMcCune I don't see iOS listed there.
 
15 minutes to go \o/
 
@RоryMcCune GitHub is built on Ror. Should be right up your alley. :P bounty.github.com
 
@TerryChia huh all browsers this year...
@TerryChia ahh bounty hunting fun if you have time..
 
@RоryMcCune Mavericks. Not iOS.
 
FOURTEEN MINUTES TO GO
 
4:17 PM
@TerryChia interesting
@kalina not like you're counting the minutes tho;
I actually wish this week were longer
 
oh no
me? clock watch?
 
been reversing a serialization protocol
 
WHAT?
LONGER WEEKS?
 
and it's more fun than usual tests
 
13 minutes
 
4:18 PM
iOS is hard to exploit, especially the root kind. Look how many different vulns each jailbreak has to use.
 
so would be nice if I had more time
 
@RоryMcCune Ah, that's always fun to do.
 
@TerryChia yeah and then people try and say Android is as secure... snerk
@TerryChia well is more fun as I make process learning c# and silverlight and a framework from scratch was a bit yucky. Also I could never let anyone see the code I've got so far it's a frankensinian monster!
 
I won't go into the whole iOS vs Android thing here, but even Android fans can't argue that iOS is an incredibly difficult platform to exploit.
@RоryMcCune That's how I feel about everything I write.
 
@TerryChia yeah most of my code is ugly but at least I'm not too ashamed of my ruby code, this is really not nice but it's getting me there
 
4:24 PM
@RoryAlsop no problems you have due to drinking alcohol
it is my reasoning that if you are in good health, then there is no reason for me to stop drinking
 
@LucasKauffman This is pretty neat if you write a lot of python libraries. Just thought I'd share. github.com/Ayrx/cookiecutter-pypackage
 
@RоryMcCune Oh yeah, I actually have that book but I haven't sat down to start going through it yet.
Interestingly I also have this one on my list as well, again I haven't had/taken the time to do it.
 
4:51 PM
@LucasKauffman I think we're agreeing here...
 
@TerryChia I own that book. I feel like you would know most of the stuff that is stated in it.
 
5:10 PM
anyone else think this is low quality / off topic?
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Q: How can i show a ptc site that i m a different user?

Tanha BadalI use two accounts on a PTC website (pay for watching Ads) . if i watch the Ads of one account it do not show the Ads already viewed even i clear the cookies. i used the annonymox in the fire fox browser to change my ip address it sometimes not looking working.

I'd rather it gets some VTC before I nuke
 
 
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6:13 PM
new customer needs help (ok), customer runs a booking/reservation service (ok), expect hacking and evidence of stolen credit cards (ok), recent suspicious traffic from Russia (ok).... customer runs on Windows servers (dammit!)
 
Guys, I've just created a partial chat API. Currently can only post messages. Ideas as to what I can do with it?
 
@RoryAlsop That's done. Although the official reason is a lie.
 
7:12 PM
@ManishEarth Make it use those duckduckgo search goodies?
 
@TildalWave currently only can post messages, can't read realtime :p
 
@ManishEarth cronjob it! :D
 
@TildalWave as in it has no api to read new messages. Working on that
 
@ManishEarth I realize that, what I meant was, you can make it post "Hey @Scott" every weekday at around 12 pm GMT and you can't go wrong
 
haha
 
7:17 PM
@ManishEarth How well documented is it?
 
not at all :p
but it's simple at the moment
check out test.py
 
Well, I can try to help you spin it into a Chrome Extension if you'd like.
@ManishEarth Heh, you are having people store their SE auth information in plaintext?
 
@DavidFreitag it's "test.py"
Not "chatbot.py"
:p
 
Yeah, that's true i guess. But how hard would using ROT13 have been even for a simple test script?
@ManishEarth You could work with @Undo and/or someone who does Android apps to produce a legitimate chat app.
 
I can do Android apps :p
currently working with @Undo on a spam monitoring bot
 
7:23 PM
Ah, well then there you go
I figured you would've been :]
 
7:41 PM
@TildalWave Ohai
 
@ScottPack guess how much snow we have here
up to 1 m :)) with about 40 cm (16 inches) of new snow possible each day till monday
In short, I'm staying in for the weekend... time to read a good book
 
@TildalWave flip me that's a lot of snow!
 
@TildalWave Not bad, not bad. Yesterday was the start of our warming. It's supposed to hit 40 today.
 
Indeed :) it's not so bad in the city it's now raining a bit so I'll compress it but still, I'm not moving in this. Teas, book, staying warm...
@ScottPack It's going up and down here all the time, I guess the warmer air brings in rain then it turns to snow during nights. I'd go to bed thinking hey this doesn't looks so bad then wake up to loads of new snow
 
8:25 PM
@ScottPack All in all I'd say this year was pretty good about snow. And DUDE supposed to be in the 50s all weekend.
Albeit rainy here.
 
 
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10:41 PM
Awwwyeah. Master/Slave TWI driver for XMEGA is complete.
 
11:37 PM
The Alcoholic Beverages proposal on Area 51 has been closed for lack of interest/activity/forward momentum. Alternatively, if anyone is interested, Beer is now in public beta.
 
11:48 PM
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Q: I've just purchased a VPS: What are the first things I should do to keep it secure

toomanyairmilesSo I've just purchased a VPS to mess around with and host some of my sites. I've changed the password to a 15 digit alphanumeric string via SSH, but I would like to know what basic security measures I should take to begin with. For example, should I continue to use root to login - I've a faint ...

I voted to close as too broad
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Q: how can i use uniscan for tor site(.onion)?

user58284how can i use uniscan for tor site(.onion)?

does this make any sense?
 

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