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1:33 AM
I created a draft of "What is a Great Question?" as a potential blog entry. You can read it (and hopefully review and edit it) here:
@enderland, mind reviewing the above when you get a chance?
Alternatively (or additionally) @Rhys?
 
2:01 AM
Here is all the blog-related work I've done in a single post!
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A: Do we want a community blog?

jmacI really want to see this happen now that we were featured on the SE podcast: And now, this week’s Featured Site: The Workplace. It’s still in beta, and we don’t usually talk about betas in our featured site segment, but this site is especially interesting because its answers are much ...

 
 
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4:05 AM
Today-only question: "How can I get people to respect my sobriety during a celebratory champagne shower after winning the World Series?"
 
 
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6:03 AM
blog.stackoverflow.com/2013/10/podcast-53-lets-go-rio/?cb=1 The Featured Site segment on The Workplace is at 14:10 in the podcast, if you want to skip ahead to it.
The segment on The Workplace is about 8 minutes long, and quite informative!
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7:14 AM
Just was digging through an Excel macro I made a couple years ago, and found this glorious statement in it: On Error GoTo Hell -- can't find a variable called goodIntentions though...
And this is a tremendous question/answer (mild-language warning):
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Q: Regular expression preg_quote symbols are not detected

Prof83I have a dictionary of swear words in the database, and the following works great preg_match_all("/\b".$f."(?:ing|er|es|s)?\b/si",$t,$m,PREG_SET_ORDER); $t is the input text and simply, $f = preg_quote("punk"); "punk" is from the database dictionary, so at this point in the loop the expression...

 
 
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9:01 AM
@jmac Will have a look when I get a mo, moved it over to 'in review' too
 
@RhysW Awesome. Write your story about how The Workplace doubled your pay, halved your waistline, and regrew your appendix and I'll return the favor?
 
9:32 AM
@jmac This one website doubled my pay - find out the tips that recruiters will HATE you for!
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this is our selling point right?
 
Hey @RhysW are yu still thinking of answering the Saturn question? the bounty ends in 55 mins
 
9:56 AM
@UV-D sorry buddy, don't think I will have the time, I'm back at work at the moment, I will get round to answering, even if it is out of the bounty period though
 
okay
 
 
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11:16 AM
Good plan too, I think now of all times is a really good time to restart the blog push, especially after mention in the podcast
 
 
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1:14 PM
I wrote this in an excel macro recently -

Case Default:
'ruh oh
@jmac I'll try to look it over when I get home, might be more difficult to focus on this at work :)
@RhysW I would love it to double my pay. Somehow I don't see this happening unless I change companies (which might very easily double my pay, actually, since I'm good at negotiating and interviewing.... HMMMMMM :)
 
1:34 PM
@enderland haha i was more doing my own version of those really annoying spammy adverts
 
I'm mildly terrified that I remember most of the questions this podcast is referring to without having to look them up
 
im yet to listen to them, though an 8 minute segment is a nice size!
 
2:04 PM
That podcast was harsh. I couldn't tell who was who, but the "commiserating self-help group" certainly struck a nerve because it's close to the truth a lot of the time.
If I had 30 minutes, I'd transcribe the damned thing.
 
2:22 PM
@jmac I was tempted to post on teh comments "most of my downvotes are against commiserators" or something :)
 
Nah, it's really spot on when you think about it, and I 100% understand where he is coming from
we have so many questions where people are just venting their problems, rather than actually trying to fix something practical
And we have a lot of users who answer those questions!
 
which is why they get downvoted :|
 
And who upvote them
I mean, I would estimate 70% of our "hot questions" should be heavily edited, but it is always too late
@enderland Take a look at the hot questions list:
Not self-help-esque:
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Q: Why is discussing pay such a taboo? How can I get people to talk about concrete figures?

Rafael CichockiI recently changed contracts from educational to full-time at my company and colleague from accounting asked me if I had negotiated my pay yet. I said yes and was about to tell him, when he interrupted me: "... you don't have to tell me... although I would probably see it eventually anyway when h...

definitely 100% self-help (on hold, but +20):
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Q: Is there a business reason for programmers to do training?

user1069816Programmers at my company have moaned that they don't get any training. I suggested to management at my company that all programmers sit down with a senior programmer to discuss their training needs. If any training was identified then the programmer would be given a couple of hours of work time ...

Definitely self-help:
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Q: Is a complex test which benefits the company an ethical practice?

randunelHere is the situation. One of the companies I applied for as a software developer asked for a complex and "thorough" test. I agreed to it, but I noticed that I was supposed to add a module to their in-production services that automated certain e-mail notification based on some filters. I'm certai...

Not self-help:
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Q: What do I have to consider when working with muslim colleagues?

CMWWe have a new colleague in our team and she's muslim. Technically she's my subordinate, so I want to avoid as many pitfalls as possible. What are things one needs to know in this context? Prayer-related details, food/drink choices we should/shouldn't offer, even behaviour related things? Please...

Definitely self-help:
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Q: Dealing with clients who want more than what's in the contract

RenanWe have a client with whom we have a contract. The contract scope is very clear and well defined. One day, one of the guys in the client company called and said, "hey, it would be great if you could add feature X to the project!". Feature X was something completely new, imagined by the guys at th...

And so on, and so forth. Higher voted questions usually get what I'd call "sympathy upvotes" where people say, "Yeah, I hate that too!" or "Yeah, I suffer from that too!" and upvote the question even though it is a bad fit.
While those active in meta may downvote them, there are hoards of more casual users who drop their upvotes very differently, and that is why you, @Rhys, jmort, and the other regular users are so important to help control quality.
 
2:38 PM
@jmac yup. this is what we need to fight honestly
if anything the sympathy upvotes from drivebys are the problem here
 
@enderland I think we have it under control now, but my concern is post-graduation when the question volume would (probably) increase.
That's why I think a blog is such a great idea -- get people involved in the community and to understand our concepts (or at least give us an easy reference to refer people to, and educate through close votes, downvotes, comments)
Anyway, bedtime!
will catch up in the morning.
 
later!
 
Gah! Hot question'ed and doomed to chaos:
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Q: Promoting a healty lifestyle for employees

RenanDisclaimer: taking into account Telastyn's comment, I'd like to point out that I do not wish to force anything upon my staff. I don't want to impose anything against their will. I would like them to see any health-related thing as another treat or perk of the job, like the Think Geek toys, Seinhe...

 
 
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3:44 PM
OMGeezers great news: infowars.com/…
@jmac That one should be explicitly off topic. That is a topic for On startups or some other business SE.
@jmac I like the question, hate the accepted answer
@jmac I would vote to close that as off topic but not as too broad
 
@Chad yeah! Mine is better (shameless plug)
@Chad this is scary. but smartphiones are basically that anyways
 
@enderland did you suggest a proactive slaughter?
@enderland I want to be wired directly in
 
@Chad as long as inception/the matrix are possible :D
 
@enderland In case you dont realize that site is Alex Jones conspiracy site BTW dont hold your breath for great accuracy
 
@Chad hmmmm
didn't realize taht
 
3:53 PM
@enderland I seriously do want to be wired directly in though
I would never have to wear pants again
 
just work from home
 
@jcmeloni OMG Joel hates us... I feel like we should commit sepaku!
 
you could do both
;)
 
@enderland But why would you
 
lol
 
3:59 PM
Joel says it’s a self-help group for commiserating.... Grrrrrrrr we are probably making him tons of money and he says something like that... ungreatful jerk.
 
lol I want to ask, "how to handle a project in a company where eveyrone except the CEO really likes the project?"
maybe I will :)
 
You should focus it on how do we get rid of the CEO :p
All though if people say they would quit...
 
bwahahahaha
 
I need an expert in stupidly architected, overly engineered, badly implemented WPF
 
I could probably be that since I've never used WPF
 
4:10 PM
I think ill put a help wanted add for it on CL
 
4:24 PM
@Chad paying $100k a year amirite
 
yes
I can go that low :p
 
sweet LMK I'll start tomorrow writing bad code
I'll work remotely too
so you cant even talk to me about what I was thinking
 
The problem is i need someone to decipher and fix it
its already written
 
I'll charge you $100/hr for that then sound good
 
sure then ill pocket the extra
ohh per hour no
Man after listening to the podcast... I am more down than I expected
 
4:39 PM
I like that tool
 
Nice
 
i still cant get over your picture
of the platypus
in a hat
 
The Duckbill Mafia.
 
i feel like im dealing with teenagers sometimes
some guy at work went into sulk mode because his change was rejected
 
@RhysW I hear ya there
 
4:51 PM
The funniest part is that everyone is vastly older than I, so for me to feel like im working with moody teens is odd
 
This is interesting... it was edited more than a day before it was posted
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A: How to match a 9 or 14 digits long number with regex?

codaddictYou can use: ^(?:\d{9}|\d{14})$ Explanation: ^ - Start anchor (?: - Start of non-capturing group \d{9} - 9 digits | - alternation \d{14} - 14 digits ) - close of the group. $ - End anchor alternatively you can do: ^\d{9}(?:\d{5})?$ which matches 9 dig...

NM its a day short of a year...
 
@Chad um, a year
oh you spotted it
 
I was trying to figure it out... was thinking maybe some IDL stuff but was like 30 hours off
 
5:04 PM
Though if Joel hates TWP I wonder what he thinks about politics :p
 
@Chad Spoilers! I haven't listened to the podcast yet
 
@Chad he was against it before he was for it
@RhysW tell him to quit
 
@enderland That seems to be the only correct response
 
I should be a career coach. "don't like something? JUST QUIT" I'll make millions this way. probably won't get any return customers though...
 
@RhysW Sorry I wont tell you that he called you out by name for sucking so bad :p
Man that irritates me... not sure why i cant just let it go
 
5:17 PM
@Chad what does?
 
I gotta quit trying to pick on Rhys he refused to take any bait :p
@enderland That Joel trashed us on the podcast
 
I think I'll post my question
 
Go for it
 
@Chad
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Q: How to correct a CEO's misunderstanding of a project?

enderlandA recent podcast is a perfect illustration of a common problem. Senior management (or CEO, in this case) is aware of a project or department several layers removed. Management may disagree with the value of the project or misunderstand some key details, which may trigger the former, but regardle...

this imo is actually a really interesting question regardless of the context
 
5:33 PM
I can not think of any constructive response atm...
 
@Chad 1 response per child
 
@Chad I am a veteran internet goer, i know better than that!
plus i never spot said 'bait' until you tell me :P
 
@enderland I have it we should slap with his.... ohhh nm that doesnt work out well
 
@Chad I hope this question gets into the site hot questions. lol
 
And tomorrows SE Blog post --- Well its time to close another SE Site :p
 
5:44 PM
@Chad that would greatly amuse me. lol. though I don't think this question will get enough answer spam to get it onto the hot questions list
 
I dont know if it will make the top but I think it will make the list
 
I'm not sure. I wonder how many votes a question needs by itself to get to the top of that list
be funny to have it be there without any answers :)
 
It has more votes than some... but it doesnt have any answers or that many views
 
its at the top of our "hot questions" list for what its worth :P
 
Right now you need 17 total votes it looks like
that is questions and answers tthough
 
5:49 PM
hmmmmm so need moar promotion, lol
 
But I think there is some weighting of votes in recent X time
though I dont know for sure
yeah
 
ask @gnat
 
Should flag your link to the question as inapproirate bring all the mods running :p
 
lol
 
Could post a link in the assembly and ask them if the question is appropraite
 
5:58 PM
I dropped a link in The Whiteboard too. they've messed with teh hot questions before :P
 
its got 7 votes already
Ill bet it gets there
 
it is a good real question imo too
 
shrugs somehow it got into the mod room
 
RIP Workplace.
 
Rest in Pieces?
 
6:03 PM
oh good an answer, that'll help this get up there
 
basically, make jmort work harder!
 
@jmort253
make sure he sees that :P
 
I think thats actually a really good answer
(not the blame jmort part)
the answer in general
 
yeah agreed
 
@enderland We broke the 4th wall and have a meta question that's also a Workplace questoin
Basically, I'm not worried.
 
6:09 PM
I feel like the boss came by for trick or treating with his kids, then smashed our pumpkin on the way out the door :(
 
Joel is the CEO of the company, and he's a pretty hands-off guy. He's hired really smart people to run the show so he can be the strategy guy.
 
And then sent an email of a video of him doing it to the company
 
Jay and the community team are really the people who will decide the site's fate, and Jay Hanlon (jaydles) seems pretty darn excited about what we're doing here. :D
 
@jmort253 exactly! this is my point and why I think this is honestly a great question
 
@enderland It is a great question. :D
 
6:10 PM
because regardless of what middle management think, the CEO perspective really DOES matter
 
For sure.
Depends on the CEO.
 
well if it's communicated to people and people remotely like the CEO
 
Larry Ellison would kill the site.
Luckily he's not the guy at the helm.
Joel is a leader. He has an opinion, but he also trusts the people he put in place to make Stack Exchange a success.
And those people trust the users, the community, the people closest to the issues, to also do the right things.
The fact is this site has helped solve a lot of people's problems.
 
waves
 
@RhysW is one example, and there was a guy a few months ago who dropped into our chat to praise us on how we helped him land a new job.
And, it's stories like that that should totally be shared.
as that's the type of stuff that will bring more folks to our door.
 
6:13 PM
yeah, true
 
But, what Joel says is worth taking heed.
We'll always have the threat of degrading into commiseration.stackexchange.com
but we're doing a great job of not letting that happen by putting questions on hold and then fixing them up so we'll have more success stories like @RhysW's.
 
@jmort253 Thats the thing that gets me we are actually helping people. And most of the questions that would fall into the rant get closed pretty quickly now
 
@Chad yup!
 
And the big guy publicly trashed us
 
That we are, and it's awesome that we're helping.
 
6:15 PM
right, listening to the podcast now
lets see what the fuss is about!
 
@Chad it's ok, if this question gets popular it'll get him back amirite
 
@RhysW I like @jmac's idea of using your story, and other success stories, as a blog post.
 
how often does the hot question list get refreshed
i would think it is hot enough now to at least be at the bottom
 
@chad I'm not sure, I think it needs to be 1hr old at least?
which would make sense since age of question is a factor in denominator iirc
 
So in 11 minutes it should pop to the top :p
 
6:18 PM
that would be funny, don't quite me on that 1 hr thing
 
@enderland Im sorry you said it you are stuck now!
 
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Q: How are "Hot" Questions Selected?

Robert CartainoI know "Hot" questions are based on some sort of views/velocity criteria but does anyone know the actual algorithm used? I was considering a feature suggestion about the "Hot" tab, but I don't have enough information to speak intelligently about it.

 
@enderland If you are wrong we are going to have to open shrodingers box and show you the cat
 
This is the closest thing I found, @Chad, but nothing on how often it's refreshed.
 
I think the Q needs more upvotes to really take off. who knows if it'll happen
 
6:22 PM
ouch! actually called some of the answers crappy
 
@RhysW That was the one thing i agreed with him on :(
 
lol
 
say you dont agree sure, but crappy? thats like saying all religions that arent mine are crappy, and being surprised people disagree
 
@RhysW How many just quit answers do we have? and we have a user that basically answers every question with an anecdote that half the time I have difficulty figuring out how it relates to the question at all... let alone answering it
 
@Chad I do think there are areas where we can improve, and there are answers that definitely make me raise an eyebrow, but my suggestion is for us to take that 8 minute soundbyte and then take a good look at what we are doing well and what we can improve on.
 
6:26 PM
But for every one of those we have a dozen users who post high quality answers
 
cough Joe Strazzere Cough
 
In other words, I hope we aren't too hasty in trying to change things based on one person's opinion. :D
 
@jmort253 There are some crappy answers here. But people here are active and there are very few questions that have crappy answers that do not also have good answers that can help. This site is definately not a give me the codez site which is exactly what SO seems to have become
 
@RhysW he's becoming a rockstar tbh in terms of how often I read his posts thinking "dang, awesome answer"
 
@enderland That's one thing too, with new users, sometimes it takes them awhile to really "get it", which is why I try not to be too hard on folks and just offer commentary instead of just outright deleting stuff.
In other words, when we look back at all of our earlier posts, they may not quite be as good as our posts today.
and it's really the big picture that matters most.
 
6:30 PM
may not? definitely not for this guy :)
 
@enderland I'm not singling anyone out, just in general, we see some people who are part of our core community today who now post better answers than they did on day 1.
 
I guess I just prefer the users who post quality answers about things they know for sure rather than just sharing their opinion on everything. Beth, Monica, Jmac, Jmort (even though half the time I disagree)
 
The peer pressure helps.
as people want to fit in.
 
awww @RhysW you and I don't post quality answers. hahahah ;)
 
my answers are all poor :/
 
6:34 PM
Jmort looks at things differently than I do and I usually disagree with his approach, but the answer is quality and it provides a prospective that is useful in solving issues. I upvote most of your answers just for that
@RhysW You and enderland are in there too but I assumed you guys knew that
 
this site has also really helped me figure out how to ask/answer questions well (hopefully :P)
 
speaking of which
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Q: Promoting a healty lifestyle for employees

RenanDisclaimer: taking into account Telastyn's comment, I'd like to point out that I do not wish to force anything upon my staff. I don't want to impose anything against their will. I would like them to see any health-related thing as another treat or perk of the job, like the Think Geek toys, Seinhe...

I think this is the core of a good question. But I think it needs focused and squared to on topic.
The answers that are there make that tough though
hmm the Hot list is still the same as it was an hour ago :(
 
@Chad I'm curious now about it because my Q is higher than the other WP question still on the list at like 28
maybe the site hot questions list are different? or they run aquery on the hour which looks only at questions older than 1 hour?
 
@enderland YEah i wonder if it is a process could be even less than hourly
 
because if you think about it, the query to build that list is probably decently comprehensive
since it has to check ALL questions and pull a lot of data to narrow the list down
 
6:47 PM
@enderland I just assumed that anytime you did something that affected the question it would update a score.
But I am guessing that is not it
 
@Chad yeah but think about it, taht query goes back and hits questions over the past few days
 
Or it could be and they just do an update of picking the hot questions every X
 
that's what I'm assuming
since the hot questions drop down gets updated fairly frequently once a Q is on it
might also be a view threshold?
 
None of mine have changed at all since i started watching for yours
 
@enderland I just used the "share" links to tweet this to my followers.
 
6:50 PM
@jmort253 the real question is... how popular are you ;)
 
not very
 
I hardly use twitter
 
but maybe all of our combined popularity can help
 
We could hack someone famous and then use their account to tweet it
I mean do something legal
 
@StackWorkplace, The Stack Exchange network
1.6k tweets, 77 followers, following 0 users
There's this too. Any posts here that are worth sharing can be retweeted by individuals.
 
6:52 PM
can we force tweet?
 
not really, it's all automated.
But I think Jeff makes a great point that we probably get more out of all sharing individually.
The bot is really like a glorified RSS feed.
and I bet the 77 people following it are all regular question answerers here.
 
We are there 18
 
views must have a huge effect
and the global formula must be different
anyways 2 hours of meetings, later
 
7:14 PM
OK its at 20 now so it must only pull in new questions every so often but update the questions on the list regularly
 
7:29 PM
I am wondering if we should do a meta question about this too
 
7:42 PM
@Chad If you're talking about the podcast, it might not be a bad idea, because the subject probably warrants more discussion than what the main Q&A site can reasonably support.
 
29 now, woooo
 
8:18 PM
not going to get critical momentum I don't think
 
@RhysW They blasted Space SE too
@enderland It was at 33 earlier
Its like SE is saying the same thing that joel did... "You suck!"
If you had asked it as "Why does Joel Hate us so much?" IT would be at the top
 
i think it needs more answers which get lots of upvotes
 
The answers would be more fun too
though... why havent our users who share their opinion answers on everything chimed in yet
 
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Q: How to correct a CEO's misunderstanding of a project? (aka why does Joel hate the Workplace?)

enderlandA recent StackExchange podcast is a perfect illustration of a common problem. Senior management (or CEO, in this case, hi Joel!) is aware of a project or department several layers removed. Management may disagree with the value of the project or misunderstand some key details, which may trigger ...

 
The did like pets though :)
 
8:32 PM
beth just posted an answer, hopefully she hits up the popular one, since it'd be a quality answer
 
8:45 PM
why dont i see that answer
 
37 now
If we really want to poke the bear we could ask "Is it approriate for the CEO to hire a someone whose sole responsibility is to bring him milkshakes?"
 
9:08 PM
well its at 41 needs to be at 50 to be in the top 5 questions
 
9:43 PM
@enderland baha did you really edit the title to get it more attention? :P
 
@RhysW yes
 
wonder where all the usual answerers are
must be haloween interfering
 
10:00 PM
Come on Rhys - Take a poke at the bear :)
 
10:13 PM
yeah going to be hard to hit top Qs without more answer spam
 
10:34 PM
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A: Getting a high-quality new hire in a competitive hiring environment

Meredith PoorI've made this point in other forums, but I'll repeat it here: bls.gov shows that, by their count, there are essentially 1.3 million programmers in the US. Certain reality checks indicate this is too low, a more realistic number is 2 million. BLS only counts people with degrees, but a lot of d...

this answer is awesome and terrible at the same time!
 
11:31 PM
@Chad I am in a giant multi-national that has nothing to do with software or startups and face the same issue. I definitely do think this is a workplace issue and is on-topic in many ways (it may be better phrased though).
@enderland I wish all the numbers were referenced at least -- all I see it saying is, "There are lots of unemployed developers in a specific city in Florida", which isn't really an answer, it's saying, "Go places where there isn't competition" rather than "this is how you get high-quality hires in a competitive environment"
 
11:56 PM
@jmac honestly I'm just going to pretend that's true so I can feel awesome for being a developer
that work? :P
 
Knock yourself out @enderland -- be proud. Be bold. Be one of the few, the proud, the developers.
 
hah. I also like that chat pings me for your deleted message. THANKS CHAT
 
Clearly there aren't enough developers to properly fix chat! ;)
 

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