English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:00 PM

@Robusto yeah, dream sequences can be annoying. Especially since they either make no sense or are prophetic.

saadtaame

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What is the meaning of prophetic?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@saadtaame define:prophetic

gtg, lunch time

Cerberus

Bai.

saadtaame

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hmm, yeah that's where the word prophecy that I keep hearing in movies comes from

cornbread ninja

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 have a shiny lunch!

KitFox

4:18 PM

I guess @Robusto must hate my newest story then.

Cerberus

> Far beneath the halls of Angband, in vaults to which the Valar in the haste of their assault had not descended, the Balrogs lurked still, awaiting ever the return of their lord. Swiftly they arose, and they passed with winged speed over Hithlum, and they came to Lammoth as a tempest of fire.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox newer than Spider?

ΜετάEd

@Cerberus Yes, you are recapitulating the entire argument point by point. "With winged speed" is one of the commonly cited texts.

cornbread ninja

What the heck. Rose to their feet and fled as though they had wings?

KitFox

@cornbreadninja No, that's the one I mean. (I did a rewrite!)

cornbread ninja

4:22 PM

@KitFox ooh!

KitFox

OMFG, are you guys still discussing winged balrogs?

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brb lunch.

ΜετάEd

@Cerberus "Now we know that the storm is indeed nigh!" "It is upon you," said Gandalf. "I have ridden on its wings."

Storms have wings!

KitFox

On the wings of the night.

But really lunch. bbl

cornbread ninja

> The argument hinges on whether the "wings" are physical wings or simply figurative wings of shadow. Many additional facts are adduced to the argument, but there is not enough firm description in Tolkien's writing to settle the argument definitively.

@KitFox as the daytime is stirring / where the speechless unite / in a silent accord / using words you will find are strange / and mesmerised as they light the flame / feel the new wind of change / on the wings of the night

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd I was just pondering it.

Robusto

4:28 PM

@KitFox I just mean that a lot of time a dream sequence is a cheat or a tease, not that they can't be done well. It's just that they so often have been done poorly. "And then I woke up. It had all been a dream!" Sorry, BTDT.

Cerberus

I was studying maps of Hithlum.

@ΜετάEd Can one traverse Hithlum with winged speed on foot?

And why "over" Hithlum?

ΜετάEd

@Cerberus Poetically speaking, of course one can.

Cerberus

I was not assuming that we take "winged speed" as necessarily achieved by wings here.

ΜετάEd

@Cerberus Besides, these are Balrogs we're talking about here. They could be fast.

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd I was pondering whether they could be.

Robusto

4:31 PM

More to the point, how many flying balrogs can dance on the head of a pin?

ΜετάEd

They're Valar, after all.

Robusto

Btw, never use the word "penis" for a password, because the software will tell you that your password is too short.

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Cerberus

@ΜετάEd Outside context, taken at face value, there is a strong suggestion of flying in this passage, don't you agree?

@ΜετάEd Valar? They are Maiar, I believe.

Robusto

And Mahlzeit.

Cerberus

Bai!

@ΜετάEd At least there is a more or less sustained metaphor of flight associated with the balrogs here.

ΜετάEd

4:34 PM

@Cerberus You're right. They are Maiar. However that makes them minor Valar. In fact they are also called Valaraukar, meaning "demons of power".

"Valar" simply means "powers".

Cerberus

If we're exploring Tolkien's associations, I would be inclined to say that there was something about flying to them.

@ΜετάEd Yes. A minor point—I just couldn't resist.

Just as valar bear some association with angels, who in turn are often associated with flight, like many semi-divine beings, I think.

KitFox

@Robusto It was all Pam's dream.

@cornbreadninja Exactly.

Cerberus

@ΜετάEd By the way, I'm not defending any position in particular here. Just going over all the possible connotations of balrogs again.

KitFox

@Robusto snort, choke

Interesting factoid about balrogs...

Once, when I was engaging in sexual relations with Tolkien, he quite clearly stated that he thought it would be quite amusing if he never indicated whether he intended for balrogs to actually have wings.

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Cerberus

I bet you talked him into that.

KitFox

4:46 PM

"It will send fans off their rockers. They will take this minute, pointless detail and spend years discussing it," he said.

And I said, "But they do have wings, don't they?"

He said, "Sure they do. Wings of shadow and smoke. But how do you expect them to fly with those, especially with a wizard knocking him around?"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox balrogs and wizards are of the same order of beings. one is not necessarily more powerful than the other.

KitFox

Then he laughed and said, "I'm just pulling your chain. Of course balrogs don't have wings. They don't exist."

Mitch

-2

Q: Is WordNet a regular english thesaurus?

Is WordNet a regular english thesaurus? If not what differences existence? Is there any more comprehensive one?

thesaurus

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox oh pfft. you might as well say that unicorns don't have horns then.

Cerberus

@KitFox Blasphemy!

Mitch

4:51 PM

though closed on main, is it appropriate on meta?

KitFox

Uh. I don't know.

How do you all feel about putting it on Meta?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It's not really about our site

KitFox

No, but we have other tool questions.

Cerberus

@KitFox Good idea.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

do those tool questions relate to our site? or just tools in general

Cerberus

4:53 PM

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Q: Is WordNet a regular english thesaurus?

Is WordNet a regular english thesaurus? If not what differences existence? Is there any more comprehensive one?

dictionary

KitFox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hey, don't look at me. He was the one who said it.

Mitch

@cornbreadninja source please. Meatloaf?

KitFox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Tools that might be used in answering questions on our site.

@Mitch Pink Floyd. turns crimson

cornbread ninja

@Mitch Pink Floyd, On the Turning Away.

from the pale and downtrodden

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox Sure. But not just questions about tools in general. There has to be some connection to the site. IMO.

So I vote "no" to meta.

cornbread ninja

4:54 PM

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KitFox

Any other ideas on how we might help this user?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Nothing that fits within the scope of ELU/meta.ELU/chat.ELU.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox crimson and clover / over and over

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

we could change the rules and allow tool questions on ELU

KitFox

That would require a Meta question.

And I don't think tool questions should be allowed on Main.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:57 PM

why not?

KitFox

Meta, maybe, if it's about how to use them appropriately (like NGrams).

cornbread ninja

oh wow, it was closed.

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Q: What are your favorite English language tools?

This will prevent myself from asking an obvious, silly question again. What are the English language tools you found most useful? I found Corpus Concordance English extremely useful for looking up collocations. Please, one tool per answer.

learning resources

KitFox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't have a good answer for that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox I agree that on meta, we can discuss tools, in the context of how to use them on main.

KitFox

@cornbreadninja That probably should go on the Meta site.

cornbread ninja

4:58 PM

@KitFox I will vote for that!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

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A: What are your favorite English language tools?

Word Net It's a lexical database of English. Nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs are grouped into sets of cognitive synonyms (synsets), each expressing a distinct concept. These "synsets" are interlinked. It's more rigorous than a normal Thesaurus, in that it tries to "pin down" every unique me...

cornbread ninja

@Kit It would have to be reopened first! I think.

KitFox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 OK. I'll write a comment to the other guy.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Personally I'm not sure what our main topic is anymore. Almost every question falls under "general reference" or "dupe". We used to have questions like "what does this mean?" but most of those get closed. Questions about peculiar usage get closed as too localized. yoichi's questions notwithstanding. Tools are off-topic, but frankly all of these rules are somewhat arbitrary.

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KitFox

@cornbreadninja Probably. It was closed because it was kept for historic reasons, but users kept pointing to it as a "why can't we ask list questions" question.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:01 PM

So I'd vote for relaxing the TL, GR, and no-tools rules.

KitFox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 OK.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox understood.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Oh, I'd also vote for allowing list questions.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I agree.

KitFox

@cornbreadninja I am reluctant to just move it, but you all can do it, if there's enough of you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:02 PM

@Cerberus ohnoes! paleophesy again!

KitFox

So that requires posting some Meta questions.

cornbread ninja

@KitFox I was thinking it should happen quickly, lest it be pointed to again while open, but I'm on board.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox every time I bring up the topic, Cerb agrees with me, and nobody else does.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Let's call it symphasy.

"Speaking together".

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox I think that question fits as well on Meta as on main.

KitFox

5:04 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 coughs, points at Meta site

Cerberus

Does Ed have a site?

KitFox

And the thing about list questions is that it begs for abuse.

Cerberus

Perhaps we should declare the topic of our site to be balrog wings?

KitFox

It is #1 rep whoring, #2 helpful.

Cerberus

Sounds like the main topic of our site.

KitFox

5:05 PM

And there is never an accepted answer. They require extra patrolling.

cornbread ninja

What if there was a list tag, and all answers must be CW under penalty of thwacking?

KitFox

Post it up on Meta. Let's see what everyone else thinks.

cornbread ninja

Are differently-colored tags possible?

KitFox

I don't think so.

No rep gain = discouragement. Maybe.

I personally think we've been too trigger happy on the Gen Ref.

cornbread ninja

It might be neat if we could have stickies, but that makes me think those kinds of canonicals should be on meta.

KitFox

5:08 PM

Maybe we should re-visit the methodology for classifying GR questions.

cornbread ninja

I like it, especially since it is our special close reason.

KitFox

And I think it could be OK to allow tools questions, but we'd have to be pretty rigorous about how they are asked and such.

Otherwise, we might end up with a bunch of "Google Translate blah blah blah", "MS Word blah blah blah", etc.

cornbread ninja

What if answers had to be mod-reviewed, either always or for <x users?

KitFox

Actually, come to think of it, I don't know that I agree that the thesaurus question was absolutely off topic. Let me read it again.

@cornbreadninja Are you smoking crack? When will we have the time for that?

:P

cornbread ninja

@KitFox yo, I didn't boost your cat food.

@KitFox I meant only on list topics.

KitFox

5:12 PM

Hmm, maybe. I don't know.

cornbread ninja

I must get a food.

AFK BBS NOMS

KitFox

So would you all feel that it might be on topic to ask "How does WordNet differ from a traditional thesaurus?"

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox currently, no, because we don't discuss such things here, as has been decreed.

KitFox

OK, let me ask differently. Ought it be on topic?

ΜετάEd

Before we worry about what else should be on topic, maybe we should worry about the deluge of questions and answers that are off topic.

Mitch

5:18 PM

@KitFox it seems perverse to deny such a thing, to make it off-topic. It should be addressable either on main or meta.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I think it could be. Allowing it is, to my mind, no more random than denying it. It is related to English and linguistics, peripherally. There are some justifications to denying it.

@ΜετάEd They're only off-topic because we defined our topic so narrowly.

Mitch

@cornbreadninja Oh. So not Meatloaf. That album is (squirms in seat) after my time.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Pink Floyd is after your time?

Mitch

um..yes. after when I cared about reading lyrics and collecting albums and knowing who produced what album then performed on another. also, I'm old. older than what you think of as old, but not chronologically.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Or as the saying goes, when Mozart was my age, he had already been dead a few years.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

well, mozart didn't live very long

Mitch

5:28 PM

that is, knowing that you yourself are not yet 20, you'd probably ask me if I'm feeling OK, do I need help walking across the street or standing up, or if I need to be driven to one of my many expected doctor's appointments,

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch ! I'm over 30!

Mitch

!!

oops

I mistook you for ...

that other guy.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I have two kids and have been married for... a long time! oh... 11 years. that's how long.

Mitch

the one that is younger.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

mahnax

the other canadian

Mitch

5:29 PM

ha ha! duh. Sonic the hedgehog

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

what?!

Mitch

you both have S's near the front of your names.

That's how old I am I can't tell things by reading.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 holy crap that's old! Are you OK? do you need help standing up?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I'm just a bit younger than you, if your profile is right. Just enough that if we'd gone to the same high-school, I wouldn't have known you.

@Mitch yeah my cholesterol meds have atrophied my legs so I can't walk anymore!

Mitch

Also, PF sucked starting with...with whatever that sucky album was in 1983 or so. So I stopped caring.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know!

Really, does that happen? checks meds

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

it can cause muscle-tissue breakdown, yes

manifests as muscle pain, usually in your quads

depending on what you're taking

so for the record, though I may sometimes act childish, or talk about childish topics (* cough LEGO * cough) I am actually no longer a child (legally speaking)

Mitch

5:34 PM

hm...atherosclerosis leading to possible heartattack stroke or embolism, or slightly weaker legs, which can be counteracted by exercise? hm....

I'm trying to work in a joke about doing it until I need glasses.

KitFox

What's all this about being old?

Oh hey, my 6th anniversary is coming up.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's OK. I think talking/lying through your kids is OK. "I think, I mean my kids think that the Bionicle stuff is crap, they'd much rather have the blocks to create things out of their own imagination"

@KitFox Holy crap that is old (_repeating trope that makes oneself look better by dragging down others).

KitFox

Mr. Shiny was married longer before he had kids.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch That would fly, for anyone who doesn't know that my kids are too young for lego :)

@KitFox So does that make you older, or me? :)

KitFox

I'm not sure.

Mitch

5:38 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh. Well, since it is your future, and since you care about Lego, Bionicle is idiotic.

KitFox

My husband and I jumped right on that task.

Mitch

Slightly less idiotic than pokemon.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch luckily, bionicle has been replaced with something different, which doesn't interest me more, but it seems to be more lego-y.

I'm not too grown-up to deny that my desk is covered in lego minifigs right now.

Mitch

all ours are xmas tree decorations, the ones that have recognizable parts left.

cornbread ninja

@Mitch I consider 70+ old, but will probably only do so until I'm 40ish.

<--- 32

I stopped caring about new music after grunge, with a few exceptions here and there. I will never stop caring about the music I like.

Exceptions: I was aware of Coldplay at their start (and they sure suck now!), and David Gray.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:46 PM

cornbread ninja

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 izzat Harley Quinn?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Funny, I have two lego minifigs on the Christmas tree too

@cornbreadninja No, it's the medieval jester.

There is a Harley Quinn fig though.

I just don't have her.

cornbread ninja

OIC

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The latest additions to the fig collection are Wolverine, Magneto, Deadpool, Aragorn, Merry, Frodo, and two wringwraiths.

Mitch

@cornbreadninja what, 70 isn't old? I think that's old. Or should be. when do the benefits come in? senior citizen discounts? visits from the nice girl down the street (or is it her grandchildren?), no that was the year of that storm, the one where the did I tell you about when we didn't have internet and had to ask people for directions? Well, I'm tired now, I think I'll close my eyes.

cornbread ninja

5:56 PM

@Mitch I'll wake you when it's time for your pill.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I can see all our responses...from 5 minutes ago...in a picture.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch but you have to suffer the disorienting fact that it's MY messages that get highlighted and yours just fade into the background

Mitch

@cornbreadninja have you seen my glasses? I can't find them anywhere. Yes, yes, I checked around my...OK don't try and get smart with me.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it took me a while but I was able to mentally parse that eventually.

cornbread ninja

@Mitch I think they're on the divan, or maybe on top of the icebox.

KitFox

Perhaps they are in the sledge.

Mitch

6:01 PM

+1 icebox

KitFox

OMG. sledge + hammer = sledgehammer. Ouch shakes head as piece clicks into place

Hammer for sledges.

cornbread ninja

this will be my testimony

KitFox

Can't believe I never saw that.

cornbread ninja

I kick the habit / shed my skin

this is the new stuff / I'll go dancing in

RegDwight АΑA

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KitFox

6:04 PM

Interesting factoid about Peter Gabriel.

cornbread ninja

@RegDwightАΑA ooh, platforms.

KitFox

He wrote Digging in the Dirt for me.

RegDwight АΑA

What did you do with it?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Peter Gabriel's videos are always a little odd.

KitFox

I forgot how weird they are.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:09 PM

honestly that Steam video is just a mishmash of weird visual effects and CGI to imply sex.

KitFox

Yep.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I guess you must have had quite the influence on him.

KitFox

Well, I can hardly take credit for that.

How did I forget how much I like Peter Gabriel?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox or @RegDwightАΑA: I don't suppose either of you know of a long comment thread on the main site? I would like to use it for my blog on why chat is great

KitFox

Well, there was that argument between tchrist and FF...

But that's probably not a good one.

Matt Эллен

6:18 PM

oh, well, I'm gonna edit it anyway

I just didn't want to have to make all the html myself :D

cornbread ninja

How many exchanges does it take before the auto-comment of 'let's take this into chat' shows up?

RegDwight АΑA

@MattЭллен let me check the flag queue.

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Q: What are the differences in characteristics of 'analytical' and 'descriptive' writing excerpts?

Suppose I have been given a paragraph and at the end of it, I am asked what the author's intended tone was. What characteristics can I use to distinguish 'analytical' writing from 'descriptive' writing? I often confuse these two. Here is a sample paragraph for those who require context: Mi...

meaning vocabulary homework

Mitch

@cornbreadninja I often want to just invoke 'new chat room' -before- then.

Matt Эллен

@cornbreadninja good question. it varies because the comments have to be between two parties, I think, before the little note pops up

RegDwight АΑA

12 got purged.

Matt Эллен

6:20 PM

@RegDwightАΑA grand, that'll do nicely :)

KitFox

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Q: Gigolo is to man as what is to woman?

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language (Fourth Edition) reads: gigolo, n. A man who has a continuing sexual relationship with and receives financial support from a woman. Is there an English word [X] which fits the following definition? [X], n. A woman who has a conti...

single-word-requests

This one is more provocative.

RegDwight АΑA

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A: How can I use “fête” as a verb in active voice?

My advice is to stick with the passive voice. As this NGram shows, that's what most people do... And here are just half-a-dozen instances of "I feted him" in the entire corpus of Google Books. You can get away with passive voice, or non-specific subject (they, the people, etc.), but in general...

Again, 11 comments deleted.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox golly! that's a lot

RegDwight АΑA

Of course I guess we can resurrect them for your post if you wish.

KitFox

@RegDwightАΑA Oh, yeah. That's the one I was thinking of.

Matt Эллен

6:21 PM

That's enough to be working with Thanks, @KitFox & @RegDwightАΑA!

RegDwight АΑA

K

KitFox

Sure thing, bubby.

RegDwight АΑA

@KitFox just check "posts" → "autoflagged posts" in the mod tools.

tchrist

From far and wide, they've come to listen, watch, and judge her plea.
Beneath the lights her skin aglisten drips and drabbles free.
Before she speaks she stops to moisten lips all cracked and dry;
Refreshed for now, she lifts her voice and pleading asks them, "Why?"
She tells them just how much, how often all well-spoken men
That certain t's they oft would soften up, and how and when.
This once a trait of working class infects its rulers too,
Who know no better than to fasten t's where once taboo.

RegDwight АΑA

There's a word in Spanish I don't understand. But I heard it in a film one time spoken by the leading man. He said it with devotion, he sounded so sincere. And the words he spoke in Spanish brought the female lead to tears.

tchrist

6:26 PM

Do you know which word it was, or do you not know its meaning?

RegDwight АΑA

Well since there's only this one word in Spanish I don't understand, it should be easy to figure out.

tchrist

I'm not in an environment where I can listen to sound.

Robusto

CHORUS

He said it with devotion
He sounded so sincere
And the words he spoke in Spanish
Brought the female lead to tears

tchrist

Your scansion sucks.

RegDwight АΑA

Oooh-oooh, word in Spanish.

Robusto

6:28 PM

@tchrist You don't know how to scan then.

RegDwight АΑA

He does know how to scam them, that should be enough.

tchrist

Oh drat, I forgot to mark the enjambments.

RegDwight АΑA

Aug 14 at 16:27, by RegDwight АΑA

Now that's what I call an enj- / ambment! — RegDwight АΑA Oct 8 '10 at 14:18

tchrist

Softly Softly

Robusto

That's worse than NGrambment.

tchrist

6:31 PM

From far and wide, they've come to list/en, watch, and judge her plea.
Beneath the lights her skin aglist/en drips and drabbles free.
Before she speaks she stops to moist/en lips all cracked and dry;
Refreshed for now, she lifts her voice/ and pleading asks them, "Why?"
She tells them just how much, how oft/en all well-spoken men
That certain t's they oft would soft/en up, and how and when.
This once a trait of working class / infects its rulers too,
Who know no better than to fast/en t's where once taboo.

Written out with 8/6 ballad meter, every line gardenpaths you to a mispronunciation.

RegDwight АΑA

@tchrist Much better. No really, it is.

tchrist

Via enjambment.

KitFox

Oh, now I get it.

RegDwight АΑA

Via enjabbathehuttment.

tchrist

From far and wide, they've come to list-
    en, watch, and judge her plea.
Beneath the lights her skin aglist-
    en drips and drabbles free.
Before she speaks she stops to moist-
    en lips all cracked and dry;
Refreshed for now, she lifts her voice
    and pleading asks them, "Why?"
She tells them just how much, how oft-
    en all well-spoken men
That certain t's they oft would soft-
    en up, and how and when.
This once a trait of working class
    infects its rulers too,
Who know no better than to fast-

Robusto

6:33 PM

I get it too. When you're wrong, change the subject. It's the unwritten rule of TIR

RegDwight АΑA

tchrist

@Robusto You aren't going to duck out of your failed scansion that easily.

RegDwight АΑA

Oh noes, not duck out again.

Robusto

It ain't failed. And it ain't mine. It's a found poem. Found in RegDwight's prose.

I merely report the news.

RegDwight АΑA

Feb 9 '11 at 21:45, by Kosmonaut

My officemate is Russian and he swears constantly, and I always know if he is IM'ing me from his iPhone because suddenly he will use the word "ducker".

tchrist

6:38 PM

I hate the thoughts it takes to make a rhyme for all to see.
For all the day you'll speak this way, and all your friends shall flee.

tchrist

6:49 PM

What in the world are you thinking? All this shows is that people did not often publish books with foul language before such-and-such a date. It says nothing about speech. — tchrist 28 secs ago

ΜετάEd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 They're only off-topic because we defined our topic. ftfy

cornbread ninja

Is there an accepted adjectival form of nepotism? Nepotistic? Nepotismal?

tchrist

nepotal nepote nepotian nepotic nepotically nepotious nepotism nepotist nepotistical

cornbread ninja

Nepotistic it is.

Mitch

corrupt? inbred? nepotistical.

agh..jinx

Robusto

6:53 PM

I wanted t' be kind t'christ
By God I did, you see;
The trouble was, he didn't have
A kind word meant for me

He always rails night and day
'Bout characters of text
What prompts his bile you cannot say
Nor what he'll rag on next

Well, now he says my scansion sucks:
A failure, plain and clear;
Now we must use a simple rhyme
To stick it in his ear

If you should see t'christ today
Be brave: don't shed a tear.
Rejoice that once he leaves you shan't
Be dealing with him here.

And so with simple meter shod

tchrist

This is all about the papal nephews, you know.

cornbread ninja

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Mitch

@cornbreadninja oh..you're serious.

RegDwight АΑA

I think I'll create a Wall Of Text room for tchrist and Rob to hang out in.

cornbread ninja

@Mitch somewhat.

Mitch

6:55 PM