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12:19 AM
So your story^^ @robusto about JS chat got me interested in checking it out. After about 5 mins I saw your point quite clearly.
Happy Independence Day pal.
 
12:44 AM
I make no apologies for what's in my blood.
@terdon that^ is my answer to what happened in the homotopy theory room ;-)
Thank you for handling it so diplomatically.
 
 
11 hours later…
11:39 AM
@skillpatrol You had a similar experience?
 
do you have a link to the transcript where it happened?
 
@JohanLarsson No. Just go in and search for the word "aggressive" when said by me and you'll come to it.
 
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, Jun 20 at 1:02, by Robusto
Hey, devdocs is pretty sweet. Glad I stumbled in here.
transcript was a bit strange yes
not really a reason to abandon the room imo
Just lurking around and getting to know the guys and perhaps pick up some gems is a decent strategy
I'd imagine all rooms to only have a handful of good/skilled and a pool of loud/bandwagon guys
I think the key is to never have the mentality that a discussion must or even can be ~won~
everybody wins from a good discussion
 
11:55 AM
@JohanLarsson Key word: discussion. (As opposed to argument. As opposed to heated argument. As opposed to stupid, pointless, time-wasting blather characterized by animosity and straw-man arguments.)
 
@Rob lecture ^:)
@Robusto the latter are trivially handled by ignoring no?
 
I have more to give such a chatroom than to get from one. So it's their loss.
 
lets go there and lurk some!
 
@JohanLarsson I was trying not to engage in that argument, but in so doing I got a time-out. Fuck 'em.
 
I'd imagine only a very small % of the transcript being good
as with all chats
 
11:58 AM
Well, there are consequences to bad behavior. This is one.
 
dra inte alla över en kam
@Robusto There is a line in pulp fiction about pride that fits here :)
 
You act like I care. It's not about pride, it's about not having my time wasted by pinheads.
 
ok I'll stop nagging now, will probably start again some time :)
 
12:13 PM
@JohanLarsson truth is not beautiful; beauty is not true.
 
feels like geb
 
@Mitch Who are you, Bizarro Keats?
 
he's my pal
 
The creature born is the creature dying. The sun at noon is the sun declining
@JohanLarsson truth is not beautiful; beauty is not true.
 
I feel whooshed
 
12:17 PM
"Ode on a Grecian Urn" is a poem written by the English Romantic poet John Keats in May 1819 and published anonymously in the January 1820, Number 15 issue of the magazine Annals of the Fine Arts (see 1820 in poetry). The poem is one of several "Great Odes of 1819", which include "Ode on Indolence", "Ode on Melancholy", "Ode to a Nightingale", and "Ode to Psyche". Keats found earlier forms of poetry unsatisfactory for his purpose, and the collection represented a new development of the ode form. He was inspired to write the poem after reading two articles by English artist and writer Benjamin Haydon...
 
@Robusto Tao Te Zing!!
 
...
When old age shall this generation waste,
Thou shalt remain, in midst of other woe
Than ours, a friend to man, to whom thou sayst,
"Beauty is truth, truth beauty," – that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
 
Man he's got a lotta odes!
 
@Robusto Weird to hear someone quote Keats on the net.
Albeit a well-known poem.
 
12:19 PM
@skillpatrol Well, that's not very polite.
 
kidding :D
 
Personally, I'm not that fond of old pottery. I do like old buildings though.
 
how about old poetry?
 
I can't find the original but here's a link
Also frank zappa
 
thanks for the link :-)
 
12:25 PM
Yeah Keats was an ass
 
I apologize @FaheemMitha if I seemed impolite.
I assumed too much :-)
 
I am so sorry for apologizing
 
what are you assuming?
 
@JohanLarsson when I have a better screen (more than a phone) I have a kickass picture for geb chat room
 
14 mins ago, by Robusto
@Mitch Who are you, Bizarro Keats?
 
12:28 PM
I haven't assumed enough
 
13 mins ago, by skill patrol
he's my pal
:D
 
I'm quoting Lao Tzu. Also an ass
 
Question for the ages: why does Superman (or his opposite number, Bizarro) need big muscles? Supergirl is just as strong with no obvious musculature.
2
 
12:32 PM
@skillpatrol No problem. I was probably being touchy.
 
@Robusto Because comic readers like men with big muscles?
And don't like women with?
 
Stop being obvious.
There have to be deeper explanations.
 
@Robusto Super sorry.
 
Women have something much more powerful than muscles...
...tears.
 
12:34 PM
 
Du bist ein Esel.
 
what do you think of my explanation @Robusto?
 
Du Schweiz...steiger
 
@skillpatrol About women?
The Trojan Women (Ancient Greek: Τρῳάδες, Trōiades), also known as Troades, is a tragedy by the Greek playwright Euripides. Produced in 415 BC during the Peloponnesian War, it is often considered a commentary on the capture of the Aegean island of Melos and the subsequent slaughter and subjugation of its populace by the Athenians earlier that year (see History of Milos). 415 BC was also the year of the scandalous desecration of the hermai and the Athenians' second expedition to Sicily, events which may also have influenced the author. The Trojan Women was the third tragedy of a trilogy of dealing...
Ask them if their tears amounted to much.
 
@Robusto yes
it works on most men
 
12:42 PM
Magic tears.
Who's crying now?
(Youtube clip of some old country song)
 
this is not working :(
 
You had your way. Now you must pay.
 
classic stuff
 
Wow. So bitter.
 
12:56 PM
 
"To bad" is so appropriate here.
 
because it is wrong?
 
Because it is retarded.
Like Chuck Norris.
And the Chuck Norris meme.
 
1:17 PM
In Soviet Union, Chuck Norris wears a bullet proof vest for protection.
 
@JohanLarsson the stereotype is real men don't cry
 
shouldn't it be too bad?
 
yes
don't let that block your understanding pal
54 mins ago, by Robusto
Question for the ages: why does Superman (or his opposite number, Bizarro) need big muscles? Supergirl is just as strong with no obvious musculature.
 
I thought she looked pretty toned.
 
1:33 PM
and blonde :D
 
I thought she looked pretty toned.
I feel like I've said that already
@skillpatrol toned = if not muscled at least showing good definitions of nontrivial muscles.
Which is to say that @Robusto was wrong in fact, and so then was making a non sequitur
At least that means he is beautiful.
 
1:49 PM
he is a beautiful person
 
user146722
2:01 PM
@Robusto Because superman uses logic, and therefore needs muscles to be strong. Superwoman OTOH, being driven by irrational emotions, has no such need for physical reality.
 
Are you really a psychopath?
 
user146722
yes
 
user146722
but don't worry, ethics is my main tag
 
user146722
so don't question my judgement if you trust unanimous peer review from this site
 
I see.
 
user146722
2:05 PM
I'm really just set out to have some fun there, don't take that seriously
 
np pal :-)
btw welcome to the ELU chatroom.
 
user146722
Thanks!
 
3:03 PM
@SelflessPsychopath That is a non sequitur. What do muscles have to do with logic?
@Mitch NO U.
 
crl
Half a pie is actually a Pi section, isn't that a paradox?
 
how so?
 
crl
1 pie = 2 pi
well some people use Tau instead of pi
 
pi = C/D
 
Cherry pi is best.
Also: jam.
Apr 18 '11 at 16:32, by Robusto
"If when you die you get a choice between pie heaven and regular heaven, choose pie heaven. It might be a trick, but if not ... mmmboy!" — Jack Handey
 
3:15 PM
Sweet cherry pie.
 
3:42 PM
Hmm, I thought I come visit another time. . .
Hey ELU's chatroom!
 
user116848
Hey!
 
Hello my friends :D
 
user116848
Hi @skillpatrol
 
Hullo @Skill.
 
How are you guys doing?
 
user116848
3:46 PM
We are okay.
 
user116848
Just hanging around.
 
icic
 
user116848
How are you?
 
@skillpatrol I'm not very very thirsty, yay! You?
 
fine thanks
 
user116848
3:47 PM
Yes me and MA are always thirsty around this time.
 
user116848
But I have had my iftar.
 
I have some 1 hour left to iftar, and this is one of my Kung Fu days, but I'm not that thirsty, since I didn't ride a lot.
 
user116848
heh cool.
 
user116848
Wow, I just checked. Sunset there is like at 9 PM. Here we have at 7:30 PM.
 
user116848
Phew.
 
3:55 PM
That's why I said I wish I was in Finland.
 
user116848
So you want to fast much longer than that? O.o
 
At the price of a colder climate.
 
user116848
Hmm
 
user116848
Sure anything for cold. Me too.
 
Hmm. . . My plans of invading the pacific ocean before iftar. . .
 
user116848
4:00 PM
Sometimes I wonder why our ancestors settled in warm regions like these. Weather here sucks. Except in winters.
 
user116848
Winters here are quite awesome.
 
38 mins to iftar.
 
Is it Ok to randomly quote poetry here, then?
 
@FaheemMitha Of course.
Actually that would be a really fancy thing to have here.
 
@M.A.Ramezani I'll bear that in mind.
 
4:17 PM
Eggcorn of the day: shade some light on that.
 
Hmm. . . My biggest edits were always formatting, not grammar.
That's mostly because of the nature of chem.SE.
@Robusto It is because of the appearance.
The fans liked to see a muscular superman.
 
@M.A.Ramezani He doesn't want obvious explanations, he wants something deeper.
 
While a superwoman/girl is better (read: hotter) off with not a truck of muscle.
@FaheemMitha What if there's nothing like that?
 
@M.A.Ramezani Make something up, I suppose.
It's all about Kryptonian physiology.
 
Oh, so it's supposed to be hypothetical, rather than something based on facts @Faheem?
 
4:23 PM
@M.A.Ramezani Dunno, ask @Robusto. It was his question.
Maybe he wants an in-universe explanation.
 
Hmm. . . Just found this:
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Q: Why would Supergirl be stronger than Superman?

Jack B NimbleFor this question Why is Supergirl so weak? I answered that it wasn't definitive that Supergirl was possibly stronger than Superman. However in Supergirl #6 a Worldkiller says this about her: And it isn't as if the Worldkiller doesn't know about Superman, because just before on the same panel ...

Not really related though.
 
user116848
I found this:
 
user116848
12
Q: Why is Supergirl so weak?

OghmaOsirisIn Batman/Superman/Apocalypse, it's shown that Supergirl's cellular structure is much more dense than Superman and that Supergirl is supposed to be much more powerful. Why is it then that she get's hurt much easier than Superman and she's not as quick or strong?

 
Oh thumbs up
 
@M.A.Ramezani My own preferences are for the gymnast build, rather than the bodybuilder look. But that's just me. (That said, the love given to Matthew Mitcham & Tom Daley suggests I'm not alone.)
 
4:32 PM
Well @TriG, I myself always despised muscle mountains. I didn't believe in muscle volume, but in the strength it wields.
BTW @Arrow I think your linked answer is what @Rob is looking for.
 
user116848
Yeah? Thanks.
 
5:12 PM
@M.A.Ramezani I wasn't really looking for authoritative chapter and verse on the fantasy. My remark was more a comment on the silliness of it all.
 
5:26 PM
oh ma gahd you guys… I just went to the Arzt and they unclogged my ears. I had no idea there were so many sounds in the world! can you guys hear yourselves typing? my keyboard is so loud!
and there are birds just constantly talking to one another outside
also this German medical care isn't half as bad as all these Americans keep saying. I waited half an hour and they fixed everything and were perfectly nice. and it was free! on a Sunday!
 
@Robusto Well, your remark was about a being who can fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes, along with various other improbable feats. I think such comments are redundant. :-)
I have viewed Superman in various media, but they have universally failed to mention that he violates the laws of conservation of momentum, along with other things.
 
5:58 PM
@Robusto Hehe well some people are really serious about this silly stuff; specially on the Net where sometimes "anti-values" become values.
Just saw someone like that in puzzling.SE the other day.
There was a (highly upgoated) answer which defied the laws of physics, but since it wasn't physics.SE, apparently the physics' laws didn't hold.
 
6:21 PM
Hi!
Do people chat here?
 
Yes. At times.
I wonder why you came here though @User.
 
I was looking for the chat room where I go daily. But I landed here and I think people are unknown for me.
But I must have heard your username and I am sure we had already chatted before.
 
There are nice cough people here. Like @Rob.
 
ehehehe
Sounds good.
 
Most of the dudes here have chatted in ELL's rooms too at some time, like @Cerberus.
 
6:25 PM
How are you doing?
 
I'm rather fine; thanks.
 
Good to know.
 
You?
 
You always make fun. I like this thing.
I am great, thanks.
Where are you from?
 
Iran.
Or Uranus, if you prefer.
 
6:27 PM
Wow.
May I ask you something if you don't mind?
 
I never mind when I'm in SE.
 
Sounds good.
Do you think you and your people are safe as ISIS is spreading its territory?
I am just concerned nothing else.
Sorry, if I have hurt your feeling.
It was just a mistake, If I had done this.
 
@user62015 Depends on the tense; are you asking future tense, or present tense?
If it's the future tense, no one is safe from those jerks.
 
But the world should do and stop them and innocent people should be saved.
 
In the present tense, we're as safe and sound as the US is.
@user62015 That's not the half of it.
 
6:32 PM
@M.A.Ramezani Good to know that.
Have you visited India?
 
Call me delusional, but the powers-that-be will never let IS die.
 
Okay.
 
If it seemingly does, they'll give rebirth to it, in another form; scarier, more dangerous, more peculiar, madder.
@user62015 Nah.
Heh. Hope @Rob reads this.
I always want to get these things off my chest.
 
I agree.
What do you do for a living?
 
Living.
 
6:35 PM
Yes.
Fine. I understood.
 
 
4 hours later…
10:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What do you call a daughter with the same name as her mother? by SexyAnimeGirl on english.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu, I guess.
@SmokeDetector tpu
Stupid bot doesn't respond.
Hey I thought you usually responded to tpus @SmokeDetector.
 
10:53 PM
@M.A.Ramezani so who's preparing Iftar? Do they ever cheat and take a nibble?
 
Hi pal @Mitch
 
@Mitch It's always my mom if it ain't a party. Hullo, BTW!
@Mitch BTW no she doesn't, since she's fastin'. Basically, it's okay if you taste something while fasting, as long as it doesn't go down your throat.
 
That seems a bit like cheating :)
 
Doesn't count if it helps provide something edible.
BTW @Mitch @Skill you guys have really weird avatars. - A guy with a cis-2,4,6-trimethyl-2,4,6-triphenyl-1,3,5,2,4,6-trioxatrisilinane as his avatar.
 
Fasting is a good way to clean out your digestive system.
 
11:07 PM
Yep.
It also proves you're a cool slash tough guy/gal.
 
I regularly fast one day per week.
 
Where are you from?
You a Muslim?
 
What's your passport serial number?
Among other questions.
 
11:25 PM
Mine is 8888
Go crazy with that
 
Goes crazy with that
 
11:39 PM
Let's go crazy
 

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