English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Mitch

2:26 AM

What about the center? Why didn't he fill that out?

Matt Эллен

9:20 AM

This is a new word to me, how exactly people use it? — user1589188 yesterday

I associate it with operating systems etc. Usage probably googleable. I see my suggestion is seconded by others... — anemone yesterday

Seriously? They ask you for clarification and you say "google it".

this is why I hate one word answers

they came here looking for a word they didn't know and you won't tell them how to use it? gah!!!!

Jason Marsh

9:52 AM

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this is funhny

Johan Larsson

12:49 PM

@MattЭллен two words?

tchrist

1:18 PM

 120   DFW: TX Dallas/Fort Worth
 109   ATL: GA Atlanta
  78   PHX: AZ Phoenix
  77   IAX: TX Houston
  70   DEN: CO Denver

   6   daily average firearms seized by TSA from carryon luggage in 2014
2212   annual total firearms seized by TSA from carryon luggage in 2014
1667   how many of those seized in 2014 were loaded (83%)

Robusto

2:09 PM

@tchrist It takes a special kind of moron to show up for a TSA screening with a loaded handgun in carryon luggage.

6-8 inches of snow today. Happening now.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Rob you taking the Under-Inflatriots?

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 For lack of a better team, they're my team.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto I hear that.

Robusto

And, please, what a fucking tempest in a teacup.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

2:25 PM

I expect coverage has been overblown (I haven't personally seen any), but it's still cheating.

Anyway. Gustaffson v. Johnson!

Robusto

Everybody is outraged, and the stories call up images of a demonic, laughing Tom Brady deflating his way to the Super Bowl. This is the biggest detumescence story since — well, since they started showing all those "ED" ads during football games.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Who do you like?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto Gustaffson. He's three inches taller and at home.

Robusto

It's the biggest deflation story since the Hindenburg!

Oy.

You shook me, baby.

2:28 PM

I can't believe how late the fight will be happening in Sweden.

Robusto

Gotta get that U.S. market.

Gotta tap that US.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Main card starts at 2AM local time.

I'm sorry, @JohanLarsson.

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Wait, is that how time works? I thought them starting late puts them right in our prime-time-viewing wheelhouse.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

8PM ET/2AM Sweden

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Oh, that local time.

I thought you meant local as in KC.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

2:32 PM

I need some coffee.

Robusto

Been there, drank that.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

BRB coffee.

Johan Larsson

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 :)

Does this make sense?

Robusto

@JohanLarsson Not to me. What does int? mean?

Johan Larsson

short for Nullable<int>

Robusto

2:36 PM

Oh.

Johan Larsson

I expected the sum to be null there

Not important just wankery going on here.

Robusto

It's Saturday. Don't you have anything better to do?

Johan Larsson

no

Robusto

That's just sad.

crl

as a total American football noob, is it easier to play with deflated balls? did they cheat by doing so?

Robusto

2:41 PM

If you could assign a point value to ball deflation, I think it might be an advantage of, say, ~0.0125 points per game.

If it was deliberate, I'm 100% certain nobody was thinking: "Hey, this is the secret formula for winning football games! Booyah!" Much more likely whoever did it thought, hey, it doesn't make any difference so I might as well be comfortable.

crl

still there's a positive bias ;) anyway I'm going to read and understand the whole story

Robusto

And if the NFL has such a big problem with that, why don't the refs just take charge of all the balls, the way baseball umpires do?

crl

If I understand, Tom Brady prefers deflated balls, and that's certainly the reason why most balls where deflated during that match?

Robusto

He says he didn't do it. Short of the NFL proving he did do it, what is there to talk about?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto That's not very nice.

Johan Larsson

2:47 PM

@Rob are you still a working man?

Robusto

@JohanLarsson Sadly, yes.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@crl yes, and yes. It's easier to grip an under-inflated ball.

I guess that's what he is.

Robusto

At least I'm not deflated.

Except I'm not blue collar.

And Styx is so far inferior to Rush I can't even talk about it.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

2:50 PM

:(

Johan Larsson

Robgrumpo

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 You think they're better?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto No way.

Robusto

Geddy Lee ftw

Arguably the best rock bassist after Chris Squire.

Wah, no outdoor bike ride today. :(

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Because snow?

Robusto

2:55 PM

I got my new thermal bike togs on Thursday and had two glorious days where I could use them. They are great.

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Yes.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Jerks.

Robusto

Exactly right. What idiot ordered snow for Saturday? Snow is for weekdays, when you can use it as an excuse not to go in to the office.

crl

@Robusto can you show a pic?

I don't fugure out what it is

Robusto

@crl You can look at it right here.

crl

I find various things for "bike tog" tights, undershirts

Robusto

3:05 PM

There.

crl

ah those suits that make you look like a serious rider :)

Robusto

I am a serious rider. Nobody rides in January in New England without being serious about it.

crl

Do you say rider, cyclist, cycler?

in French it's cycliste

Robusto

Cyclist is preferred.

Avid cyclist is even more preferred.

crl

a climber or a flat cyclist :) ?

Robusto

3:08 PM

I don't know what joke you're making.

@cornbread: Did I tell you I refoamed my JBL L112 woofers? All by myself. Whee!

crl

sorry my English is bad then, I mean either the type of cyclist that like mountains, or the one the like flat roads

Robusto

@crl Mountain vs. road.

I ride the roads, because they come right to my house. I would have to go to mountains.

crl

(unfortunately) the alps are just right to my home :)), but I like mountains, it's just taking more time and fresher..

Robusto

@crl OK, let me clarify: I'm a serious cyclist, but not an Alpine cyclist, which is a whole 'nother level of serious. Maybe two or three levels.

Even in my prime, I wouldn't have attempted this.

> I focus on micro-accomplishments. At first I concentrate on making it to the next switchback—it's overwhelming to think about all the climbing that's still to come. Soon, that mindset melts away in the blistering heat of the high alpine afternoon. I start concentrating on getting one more pedal stroke at a time out of my exhausted legs.

crl

I'm happy you do biking, you get really good feeling
I own a mountain bike but not a "racing" bike (for the road), but an uncle owns 2 of them, and we did 80km one month ago with a peak at 1050m

We plan to do the Mont Ventoux once

Robusto

3:20 PM

That's my road bike.

crl

I smell carbon

Robusto

Absolutement.

Mitch

@MattЭллен The answer is a fast and high scorer. When did the acceleration happen, before or after your edit? (before the answer was essentially 'robust, deal with it', afterwards there's real explanation).

@crl That's the burning rubber!

hmmm...then maybe it's biphenyls.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto No. What happened to the foam?

Robusto

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 It degrades over time. 15-17 year lifetime, then the surrounds need to be replaced.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

3:29 PM

Ah. Sounds messy.

Robusto

Mateon1

I have a question, I heard the word buzzword, but I have no idea what it means. Uhm, what does it mean?

Robusto

You can see how the old stuff is all cracked and peeling.

crl

@Mitch often the handlebar, the saddle are in carbon to gain weight

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Robusto Reminds me of my passenger-side weatherstripping.

Robusto

3:31 PM

Heh. Nothing is forever.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Water bears are forever.

Robusto

It still blows my mind that certain science fiction writers believe it would be possible to create a starship that would last 80,000 years or so . . .

crl

@Mateon1 a buzzword is a word attracting a lot of attention, like "jquery"

Mateon1

Uh, alright, thank you.

infinitesimal

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzword @Mateon1

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

3:33 PM

@Mateon1 ^

Mateon1

Could you say Buzzword is a buzzword?

crl

List of buzzwords

This is a list of common buzzwords which form part of the jargon of corporate, academic, government, and everyday work and social environments, as well as by writers and public speakers. == General conversation == == Education == Accountable talk Higher-order thinking Invested in Run like a business Student engagement Common Core Bloom's Taxonomy Differentiated instruction Digital Literacy Flipped Classroom Guided Reading Instructional Scaffolding Multiple Intelligences Project-Based Learning Adaptive Learning Brain Break Cooperative Learning == Business, sales and marketing == == S...

weird there's Struts but not jquery, Struts is not so used now google.com/trends/explore#q=Struts

hehe google.com/trends/explore#q=Spring is as we can expect seasonal

@Mateon1 it was in 2007 google.com/trends/explore#q=buzzword

Johan Larsson

I don't get the Escher joke

Mateon1

Me neither

crl

Maybe a joke with Cher, the singer

Let's upvote it so Matt will have to explain it

Mitch

4:10 PM

@Robusto at relativistic speeds the ship itself will be only 1000 years old

@JohanLarsson It works best in a non-rhotic (r-dropping) accent.

'Jamaica?' -> 'Didja make her?'

Sudh

Hey people one quick question

Mitch

Matt's joke depends on knowing that joke, because you are then expected to here 'Escher?' as 'something-mumbled her?' and so "ha ha what must that mean, something dirty I bet, ha ha"

Sudh

HOw do I write a not only but also type of sentence positively for example:

Mitch

@Sudh Just one then.

OK maybe two

Sudh

Given an internship opportunity in ICS , I would be not only be able to deepen my understanding of computation inference but also contribute effectively towards the department’s research objectives

Mitch

4:14 PM

@Sudh Are you already expected to know how to do it negatively?

Sudh

How do I remove not only but also from this sentence

Mitch

@Sudh That sounds fine.

Oh. without 'not only/but also'

Sudh

yeah

because it kind of gives a negative vibe ?

Mitch

i didn't get that negative vibe.

crl

ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich?

Johan Larsson

4:16 PM

@Mitch ty sir

Sudh

hahaha

information and computer science

Mitch

But if you want to remove them, remove 'not only', and replace 'but also' with 'and'

Sudh

but that's cooler

the whole context: Fueled by this motivation to further the boundaries of computational cognition and backed by my strong technical expertise, I am confident that through this internship in ICS I would not only be able to deepen my understanding of computation inference but also contribute effectively towards the department’s research objectives

@Mitch

I tried that but it just sounds weird because there are lots of ands in the whole paragraph

Mitch

with or without will sound fine.

@Sudh well, there's only 1 with not only and 2 in my suggestion.

But I am not necessarily a good judge of style.

Johan Larsson

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Sudh

4:19 PM

@Mitch: You mean: Fueled by this motivation to further the boundaries of computational cognition and backed by my strong technical expertise, I am confident that through this internship in ICS I would be able to deepen my understanding of computation inference and contribute effectively towards the department’s research objectives

you mean like this ?

Mitch

Yes.

Sudh

yeah it sounds fine, btw do you too notice that now this is devoid of the dramatic energy not only/but also provided ?Or I am over-thinking this?

Cerberus

4:34 PM

@tchrist The Dutch book of etymology also says unknown:

> Ontleend aan Frans bizarre ‘zonderling’ [16e eeuw] < Italiaans bizarro ‘toornig, grillig’, verder van onbekende herkomst. Onwrsch. is ontlening aan Spaans bizarro ‘trots, fier, moedig’ [1625], of aan Baskisch bizar ‘baard’ (als symbool van trots en, bij uitbreiding, ‘energieke man’).

It says "Spanish bizarro and Basque bizar are unlikely".

crl

I got one word: symbool, well 2 with bizarre, well 4 with energieke man, 5 with Italiaan

Cerberus

Well done!

How about "Spaans"?

And "Frans"?

And "16e eeuw"?

And "is"?

And "Baskisch"?

crl

yes

Cerberus

Good.

Now I must take a shower, bye!

crl

good showering

tchrist

4:55 PM

Græcum est: pogonotomy, pogonotrophy, pogonophile, pogonotopiary, pogonophobes, pogonologists.

my tiny pony

lego mindstorm is crazy youtube.com/watch?v=ukPyJPFAwlo I wish it existed when I played lego technics

crl

5:31 PM

user116848

Heh. Looks kinda funny.

Matt Эллен

5:49 PM

@Mitch the answer had all its reps before my edit

user116848

6:05 PM

A funny pun:

user116848

> I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.

Robusto

6:43 PM

@Farooq Not a pun. A paraprosdokian.

Mitch

@Sudh Yes, 'not only' provides more ... oomph ... but sometimes you want that sometimes you don't. Sometimes you have to overthink it so that later you don't have to and you're able to choose more quickly depending on the appropriateness of the context. That's writing or really any communication. @KitFox would know more.

@crl Yes, that was what I was thinking of...there is a good paper about the mathematics behind the filling out of that blank point... somewhere (can't find the link now).

@MattЭллен haha...you made good answer that stopped all upvotes!

People are idiots.

@Robusto There is also a pun with 'hit' though.

Robusto

Word.

Mitch

Are you saying something to my mother?

Robusto

@Mitch The ambiguous reference is it, not hit.

Mitch

Oh. OK. That too.

But not 'then' or 'me' I'm pretty sure

Robusto

7:32 PM

> You can now read 54.4% of all real Spanish text.

So I just skip the 45.6% I don't know?

Mateon1

9:14 PM

What's the opposite to Actively participating on an SE site? Passively reading questions and answers doesn't sound right

Matt Эллен

"Lurking on an SE site"

@Mitch well, that's what all the best edits do :D

Mateon1

9:45 PM

@MattЭллен Alright, cool. Also, could you explain the "Escher" joke you made?

Matt Эллен

It's a joke that plays on the fact that "er" sounds like "her". Often similar jokes are made in a crude manner, e.g. "Banger? I barely know her" where Banger sounds like bang her, where bang is slang for having sex with someone. I made it more surreal and make less sense. So it's a joke on a joke.

Mateon1

Escher sounds more like [eʃer], there's no clear [her] in there

Banger could be interpreted as Bang'er, sounding the same, [bʌŋ(h)er]

crl

10:24 PM

(d)Esk her? I barely know her.

Are flatulences a sign for a bad diet?

ventilates

Stack Exchange

Limerick Machine: If you feel a bit too hungry Please don’t get too close to me I prefer my parts Not go in a...

posted on January 24, 2015 by sgdi

If you feel a bit too hungry Please don’t get too close to me I prefer my parts Not go in a tart I’m better in one piece, you see?

crl

I'm having flatulences
Expect some turbulences
I won't have the patience
To leave it over the fence

I don't get the room title about black and white cows and grey horses, is there a deep meaning?

hmmm .. I start to see

grey as the mix between black and white, but why

If the title was: "Mi vaca es negra, soy blanco, pero mis corderos son grises" there could be some zoophilia

Mitch

10:56 PM

Very deep meaning. You know the deep web? With bit coin and black hats and Area 51? Even they don't know about the cows. They probably have a clue about the corduroys but everyone knew that already

crl

I smell some irony

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