English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

12:25 AM

@sumelic I am becoming increasingly convinced that all requests for words and phrases are fundamentally a poor fit for the SE format. They're just guessing games and popularity contests, too broad and opinionated.

They draw low quality contributions and copypasta. They drive away the very experts we seek to attract.

They are requests for writing advice, programming advice, and shaming advice.

I say good riddance to bad rubbish.

These are not expert answers.

user227867

1:03 AM

It is a beautiful Monday morning in Antarctica, and I am going to sleep. Good night.

tchrist

3:22 AM

From here

Færd

5:35 AM

I can't say all Americans do this, but I constantly hear many of them pronounce some vowels like they're diphthongs. Examples:

man pronounced not /mæn/, but something like /meæn/

jam, not /dʒæm/, but like /dʒeæ(o)m/

good, not /ɡʊd/, but /ɡʊəd/

I may be inaccurate in my phonemic transcription, but I hope I got across the idea.

Is it addressed or discussed somewhere?

Færd

6:08 AM

Looks like it's part of what is called the Northern Cities Vowel Shift.

Northern Cities Vowel Shift

The Northern Cities Vowel Shift (or simply Northern Cities Shift) is a chain shift affecting the sounds of certain vowels in the Inland Northern regional dialect of American English, found in the Great Lakes region. It is the defining feature of the Inland North dialect region, and elements of it are also found to a lesser degree in Upper Midwest American English and Western New England English. == History == == Geography == The name of the shift comes from the region where it occurs, a broad swath of the United States along the Great Lakes, beginning some 50 miles (80 km) west of Alban...

> Inland Northern /æ/ comes to be articulated so that the tongue starts from a position that is higher and fronter than it used to be, and then often glides back toward the center of the mouth, thus producing a centering diphthong of the type [ɛə] or [eə] or at its most extreme [ɪə], which is the vowel heard in England in words like pier and beer. Thus cat and that as pronounced by a Rochesterian may sound like "kyet" and "thyet" to a visitor.

user227867

7:15 AM

@tchrist Oh, I see your meta post on SWR which references mine, LOL. Now I get publicity for free, LOL.

user227867

7:54 AM

I get such a different browsing experience in Edge, Chrome, and Firefox. That is because of the font setting options. If I uncheck the 'let sites choose their own fonts' in Firefox, I get to choose the fonts for most sites, and they look the most beautiful in Firefox.

user227867

Those of you frustrated with fonts in your browser should really try this. It makes a HUGE difference.

user227867

I think Mozilla really needs donations. It now asks for donations the moment you visit their site.

user227867

I have a feeling that Mozilla might be going bankrupt soon.

sumelic

8:14 AM

@Færd There are various sound changes that may be involved. For example, for me, the rule is very simple: /æ/ is always realized as more-or-less [eə] before any nasal consonant. I have heard this called the "California system" or "nasal system" for ash-tensing. For many Minnesotan speakers, the tensed allophone is also used before /g/.

@Færd: I remember I discussed this in chat with tchrist a while back, and he said he also has tensing before /θ/, as in "bath". chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/33080218#33080218

For many speakers, the raised, diphthongal variant of /æ/ only occurs in certain conditions like these. There is even a phonemic split in some dialects.

user227867

9:06 AM

Funiculi funicula funiculi funicula!

user227867

10:24 AM

@Tonepoet My ODE, 3rd edition, 2010, just arrived from Book Depository and I have just performed the usual quality check!

Helmar

12:05 PM

If you are a white liberal millennial, <- That should be liberal white millennial, shouldn't it? Or is liberal considered a noun adjunct and part of the noun?

caub

12:39 PM

@tchrist Can I ask a regex question? yea will do :)

why this '20161205220000'.match(/^(\d{4})(\d{2})(\d{2})(\d{2})(\d{2})(\d{2})/) give all chunks as expected, but not '20161205220000'.match(/^(\d{4})(\d{2})+$/)

caub

12:52 PM

hmm '20161205220000'.match(/(^\d{4}|\d{2})/g) does the job

terdon

@caub Because your + isn't being applied as you think. You wanted to use a non capturing group to repeat the \d{2}:

$ echo 20161205220000 | perl -lne '/^(\d{4})((?:\d{2})+)$/; print "$1 : $2\n"'
2016 : 1205220000

But yes, if you want each in its own capture group, you can't just use (foo+) AFAIK

Point is, you were trying to repeat \d{2}$ and that can't repeat since you have it anchored to the end of the string.

caub

yea, ok, thanks

terdon

What language is that, by the way? It looks like python but the syntax is off. Is it ruby or something?

caub

the great JS :)

Single Fighter

1:51 PM

Which is the correct term, foot position or feet position?

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