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1:20 AM

@MετάEd I posted that I thought it was some kind of funny phonetic spelling of "wake up" . . .

@Cerberus ^^^

Wheaykhowp

@Robusto But...there is no w...

@Cerberus Oh. Looked like a W to me.

Well, I'm wright even if I'm wrong.

@Cerberus: Almost forgot to tell you: My phone was upgraded to Lollipop today.

2:34 AM

Oh well. I wasn't here.

3:22 AM

@Robusto Oh, dear...

You didn't stop it?

Good lucking setting your phone to silent with the volume keys!

A: So, we don't change /t/ to /d/ if /t/ is between 2 vowel sounds and /t/ is the beginning of the stressed sound in a word in American English, right?

> [ɛ̃ɾ̃ɹ̩̃tʰej̃nmə̃nt̚]

t/d/n become flaps when they are (1) after a vowel or glide (including r but not l), (2) before a vowel, and (3) at the end of a syllable. (Condition (3) is stated with the assumption that an intervocalic consonant before an unstressed vowel goes at the end of the preceding syllable.) "Entertai...

> Note that there is never a d at any stage of the derivation, and there is never an intervocalic n, either.

Finally!

Somebody who stops repeating the nonsense and gives the right answer!

@tchrist Entertainment?

Yup.

In an American accent?

Outer Mongolian, actually.

3:31 AM

Same thing.

In a North American pronunciation.

Please stop dissing the Canadians.

Oh never mind, go ahead. They won't complain.

I get quite really tired of people pretending we say /d/. We don't.

We say /t/.

So do you.

So does everyone.

But once you put the square brackets on it, it becomes something else altogether.

I didn't say South American.

In this case, it’s [ɾ̃].

Besides, both interpretations of American work.

Which is /t/.

He even got the no-release marker at the end right.

I’m not going to quibble about the [j̃].

Although I would have written that with the semi-vowel myself, I don’t recognize those as different in this position.

3:36 AM

You, not quibbling??

Please.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:50 AM

@Cerberus Oh you. still going on about that? One little thing changes and it's the end of the world!

8 hours later…

12:14 PM

Is there some kind of DDOS attack going on on the site?

12:33 PM

Yes.

In a manner of speaking.

Why do you ask?

I believe what has happened is that they underestimated the server traffic due to their little prank.

My goodness, it is rather bad, isn't it?

I’m afraid to check the Tavern.

MSE is faster.

1:06 PM

@tchrist Which prank would that be?

April Fool's Day? That isn't for some hours yet.

Shtupid April Foolery game.

Pretty sure it’s just some SO masturbation fantasy, and it’s eating all the server response time.

Andrew Leach

It's already 1 April in the South Pacific.

Q: Why is "I" included in the plural form of simple present tense? E.g. I don't like this. instead of, I doesn't like this..?

I cannot imagine making it through three days of this. Guess it's time to get real work done.

-1

I need answer so that I don't have to say that this is the how the rule of English language. Although, I did hear a rumour that one cannot write I in small letter, because the western culture place a high value for each person..is this also true?

Yahoo redirect? :)

asian.english.stackexchange.com

Somehow ELU is the gateway to Western thought.

1:57 PM

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 11 mins ago, by Feeds

We are disabling the eggs for a moment while we optimize them a bit. They'll return soon!

Tweeted by StackStatus on March 31, 2015 at 1:41 PM

You cannot put the omelette back into the shell.

Q: Really slow load/response times on Stack Overflow, MSO, MSE, many (all?) others

2:10 PM

@Robusto meta.stackexchange.com/q/252382/153355

¿Cómo!

Intermittently since about 10:00 BST (9:00 GMT) today. I don't see anything on http://stackstatus.net/ I'm connecting from the UK.

support

¿YUNO1B0X?

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Mitch

3:59 PM

I just heard in the wild "... best practicees" (in analogy to the hypercorrected but almost universal 'processees'.

Down with hypercorrection! It's "Between you and me"

And this from sciency people who say "the data were..." (I take that to be actually correct but just not what normal people use).

That is, if you're going to be correct then don't make mistakes!

Here's a new addition to my collection of eggcorns:

Sometimes sanity wins over rules, at least for a while. If a question is useful to people, I want it there even if it isn't a good "Fit". A lot of times I find the most useful answers on SO in the deleted category. This sounds a little like a case of Juror's prudence where the jury is allowed to go against the law if the law is simply wrong... — Bill K 22 hours ago

Mitch

4:42 PM

@TRiG wow. a google search shows a lot of use. but it's hard to see if they really mean 'the prudence of a juror'.... wait, no, almost never is a jury ever involved.

Can anyone help me writing this "During the recent review on your AdWords account, we found violations of our AdWords policies in this or other related accounts. As a result, your account has unfortunately been suspended, and your ads will no longer run on Google."

@Mitch please help :)

I don't feel is right. I need more constructive way of saying that.

@Mitch Fascinating, isn't it? Though I think lame man (layman) remains my favourite.

Hey! @TRiG what are your thoughts on that?

Does it have to be just one message? The language would be simpler if you could have two messages, one for violations found in the current account ("this account"), and one for violations found in related accounts.

In either case, drop the other. It's unnecessary and unhelpful.

Can you give me an example based on that?

Yes

Have you guys ever heard of this word "Re-review"?

Andrew Leach

5:08 PM

Yes. Because review does not necessarily mean "view again".

5:28 PM

Ok, but this word is not in a dictionaries.

@AndrewLeach, can you please help me correcting this "During the recent review on your AdWords account, we found violations of our AdWords policies in this or other related accounts. As a result, your account has unfortunately been suspended, and your ads will no longer run on Google."

Andrew Leach

Re- is a productive prefix. Not every word starting re- needs to be listed.

I have some ethical concerns about proof-reading material to make it look like it comes from Google, I'm afraid.

How about if you take the word Google out of the picture. Then?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Kabir It still rather seems like you're asking ELU to help you craft a phishing email.

I am sorry if I am violating the rules. I thought it might help me draft a wonderful statement instead. :(

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It is not phishing email.

If it looks like a phish and swims like a phish . . .

terdon

5:44 PM

@TRiG Were they looking for jurisprudence? How would that make sense in that context?

A: Really slow load/response times on Stack Overflow, MSO, MSE, many (all?) others

Not a graph that anyone in IT wants to see... it doesn't even matter what it is or what the scale is: not good https://twitter.com/marcgravell/status/582908566979383296

Patient died.

6:17 PM

@terdon In this context, juror's prudence almost does make better sense than jurisprudence. Juror's judgement would be better.

@tchrist Turn the graph over.

Mitch

@TRiG they are kinda lame. Or 'we', depending.

@TRiG I thought jurisprudence was the domain of the judge and lawyers.

Jez

7:03 PM

ooh my Stackegg site is doing well

Marthaª

7:37 PM

Peoples, peoples: downvoting reduces user happiness and improves quality. Upvoting increases user happiness and does nothing to quality. Thus, if both users and quality are at zero, you should downvote first, because user happiness can't go below zero. If you upvote first, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

I wish the Stackegg thing had a chat box or something.

8:09 PM

@Marthaª Noted.