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12:00 AM
Then released an extra squirt of adrenaline.
Etc.
 
How is your sleeping pattern @Jez?
 
Jez
it could be better
i go to bed too late
 
Getting more sleep helps.
And exercise, they say.
 
Jez
work is somewhat boring, my brain thinks i'm wasting time by sleeping it off :-)
so it stays up late
 
-pam tranquilizers help against both the fear and stress that potentially keeps you awake at night.
 
Jez
12:01 AM
yeah, good luck getting them prescribed
doctors here are useless with that
 
If you go to your doctor with this story, I'm sure that's what he will prescribe.
 
Jez
i think not. where are you, the netherlands? they're more reasonable there.
over in the UK there is an obsession with not prescribing drugs, but sending people to worthless counselling sessions because it's "healthier"
also, i think you guys have voluntary euthanasia? that makes sense, so the UK obviously can't have it.
 
Find a different doctor.
 
Jez
take a look at the Dignity in Dying website. they're struggling just to get assisted suicide legalized
we have the NHS here. doctors are a postcode lottery, and none of them have a financial incentive to keep you on as a patient
 
Do you have walk-in clinics?
 
Jez
12:06 AM
we have A&E in hospitals, where you have to wait about 5 hours to get seen
 
So there's no possible way to see a different doctor?
 
Jez
well you could try finding a different surgery
but that means registering with a whole new surgery, a right pain in the ass
and no guarantee the doctors there will be any good
 
You're always such a pessimist.
Just go see your doctor.
 
Life has no guarantees, my friend.
:-)
 
Jez
life has given me reason to be a pessamist
 
12:13 AM
Life gives us what it gives us. It is up to us to deal with it.
 
Jez
ah well im off to bed
bye
 
Later pal.
 
@Jez I think assisted suicide should be legalised for all people who want to die, as long as they have waited say a year after applying, even if they are not sick.
 
1:18 AM
The is-it-a-word police will never die.
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Q: Can the word mnemonic be used adverbally?

WS2A mnemonic is a memory device for reducing something diverse and complicated to an easily -remembered pattern. For example, for the order of planets in the solar system, I learned as a boy the sentence: Men very easily make jugs, serve useful necessary purposes; to give Mercury, Venus, Earth, Ma...

 
@tchrist You should tell that to him in his face.
 
@JasperLoy If you mean to the English gentleman whose question it is, that would not be appropriate. Or at least, no more so than what I placed in the answer I provided him with.
 
1:46 AM
@tchrist I see you use bold and capitals at the same time?
 
@Cerberus small caps
Are always of a heavier weight
 
I didn't say they were large.
I have to say it looks slightly odd on this website.
 
You cannot produce small caps by making capital letters smaller.
You have to increase their weight as well.
Unfortunately, you and they both refuse to let me get at the font’s legitimate small capitals, and so I must make do with what I can get at.
Which means I have to bludgeon the weighting on my own.
Not my first choice.
 
It will be your signature.
 
I wish you would let me send you a copy of Bringhurst as a gift. You would take pleasure in it, I promise.
It must be paper, not bits.
 
1:51 AM
I have no knowledge of printing stuff.
Timeo Coloratos et dona ferentes...
 
It has a silk ribbon, and is in two colors printed.
The discussion of the scribal tradition in Greek alone would make it worth it to you.
 
Haha.
So what is it about exactly?
 
@tchrist Certainly John Lawler needs to read this book, and maybe you too, lol.
 
> It has been translated into italian and greek, and dutch.
Funny choice of languages. And of capitals.
 
1:56 AM
> Genuine small caps are not simply shrunken versions of the full caps. They differ from large caps in stroke weight, letterfit, and internal proportions as well as in height. Any good set of small caps is designed as such from the ground up. Thickening, shrinking, and squashing the full caps with digital modification routines will only produce a parody.
Thus spake Bringhurst.
 
Anonymous
I wish there were a small capital Q in Unicode
 
Yes, there is not one.
 
@tchrist I doubt it not.
But your (small) capitals were a bit bolder than what I would consider "neutral".
 
I had no choice.
You have forced me to parodize when I was seeking paradise.
 
Anonymous
Japanese phonologists use /H N Q/ to represent a lengthened vowel, the moraic nasal, and moraic obstruent respectively
 
1:58 AM
@tchrist That deserves a star.
 
Anonymous
It looks really neat when I use a small ʜ and ɴ, like /kaɴziru/ and /toʜkyoʜ/
 
@JasperLoy Perhaps, but I cannot star myself.
 
Anonymous
But I'm stuck with giant Q in /kaQte/
 
@snailboat Agree.
 
Alas, I never do stars in chat.
 
1:59 AM
Ah, sub-sup.
 
Except you should understand that those are often used for something else.
 
Clever, I didn't know that worked.
But it truly looks better with the bold removed, at least to me.
 
@Cerberus This is not the first time that accusation has been levelled at me.
 
What are you accused of, then?
 
Cleverness. :)
 
Anonymous
2:01 AM
It's okay to give new meanings to symbols like /ʜ/ in phonemic transcription, as long as you use them in a context where everyone understands what you're doing with them
 
Here is an example where I withhold the bold but use the same trick:
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A: Can one ever say for certain a word does not exist?

tchristWords are things people say or write As Lewis Caroll so famously wrote: ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves             Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves,             And the mome raths outgrabe. Or as another English don would later pen to everlasting f...

 
Anonymous
In phonetic transcription, that would be a little weirder
 
Anonymous
In the case of /ɴ/ it works out well because [ɴ] is the "default" articulation for the moraic nasal
 
@snailboat Usually they stand for archiphonemes.
 
Anonymous
I don't think Japanese phonologists often make use of that concept
 
2:03 AM
Spanish has an /ɴ/ archiphoneme in the coda, which assimilates to whatever actual nasal should be needed in the environment following. Perhaps Japanese does the same.
 
Anonymous
But it's very similar, yes
 
Anonymous
Usually it's explained as /ɴ/ being one phoneme with many allophones
 
Exactly.
I apologize that this is not in English, but the EN version of the Wikipedia page is not as good at explaining these allophones as the ES version:
> Los fonemas nasales /m/ y /n/ se neutralizan en posición de final de sílaba, asimilándose a la consonante siguiente. Los alófonos en los que se neutralizan dependerán del punto de articulación de la consonante a la que siguen.
Ante bilabial el alófono será [m].
Ante labiodental el alófono será [ɱ].
Ante alveolar o pausa final absoluta el alófono será [n].
Ante palatal el alófono será [ɲ].
Ante velar el alófono será [ŋ].
Ante uvular el alófono será [ɴ].
 
Anonymous
I did study Spanish when I was younger, although I'm not very good at it
 
@tchrist Now that use of small capitals I strongly encourage.
 
2:06 AM
However, I believe it should be pretty legible to someone who understands the concepts it is elaborating. Ask if you need something clarified.
 
Anonymous
And I can get by with knowledge of cognates fairly often :-)
 
> The nasal phonemes are neutralized when they occur in the syllable coda, assimilating to the following consonant. The allophones in which they neutralize will depend upon the articulation point of the consonant which they follow.
The words after ante (here, the preposition “after”) are identical in Spanish and English.
Será is the the third-person singular future indicative of be.
And in more languages tham just Spanish. :)
 
Anonymous
That one's easy to remember because of Que Será, Será :-)
 
Yep.
 
Anonymous
I missed an opportunity to use ♫ musical notes ♫
 
2:12 AM
It’s also French.
Je serai, mais elle sera.
 
Anonymous
Oh, I took French classes when I was younger, too! :-)
 
Italian has sarà or something there. I always forget how to write Italian, but it sounds the same.
 
Anonymous
Spanish and French are what I took in school. My high school stopped offering Latin the year before I was a freshman
 
Anonymous
They only offered Spanish, French, and German.
 
Mine offered four years each of Spanish, French, German, and Latin. Alas, there just weren’t enough hours in the day.
 
Anonymous
2:16 AM
I was taking eight classes, no lunch
 
Of course. Who does otherwise?
 
Anonymous
A lot of that was wasted, though―our state required that we take one credit of P.E. for every year we were enrolled
 
Anonymous
I don't really have fond memories of high school
 
Anonymous
At the time, I remember people telling me it was supposed to be something I'd remember fondly
 
Anonymous
I don't know where people come up with stuff like that.
 
2:19 AM
@snailboat Yes.
@snailboat Yes.
 
2:34 AM
There, see how that works?
 
That's nice.
 
The letterfit on the small caps is quite different.
 
What makes those things tertiary, etc.?
 
The first one the compositor grabs for; the mainstay of the text.
 
I want septenary
@snailboat For some it's the height of their lives. Every thing is down hill after that.
 
2:38 AM
It’s based not on seniority but on general adaptability and frequency of use.
(unquote)
 
@Jez The body is a machine, but the brain is part of it and thoughts can have an affect on the running of the machine. You can see a picture that makes you nauseous.
 
@Cerberus I like how he shows the difference between false italic (sloped) uppercase and true italic (cursive) uppercase.
Most fonts have those as swash alternates.
 
I knew you were going to say that.
So I did notice it.
 
Small caps and text figures are as important as full caps or italics, and both are much more important than bold anything.
Georgia has text figures in the default position, but you cannot get at its small caps all that easily on the web.
It requires CSS.
 
3:10 AM
I think it’s really endearing that they still cuddle and sleep together even after they “grew up”.
They also rough-house a lot.
I’ve decided that Randy is “handsome” and that Lorin is “pretty”.
Randy is half again Lorin’s mass, but Lorin is feistier and often pins Randy to the ground, as the defensive pose shows.
There’s some scale.
 
3:48 AM
@Cerberus Notice Bringhurst isn’t one of those folks who thinks that the sequence stops with quaternary. Still, I don’t find anything sexy about his last set.
 
4:38 AM
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A: What follows next in the sequence "unary, binary, ternary..."?

CerberusThe problem is that English uses two different kinds of adjectives to mean "first, second, etc". The ones in -ary without the -n- come from the Latin ordinals, "first, second, etc."; but they are different after 3. Primus — primary "first" Secundus — secondary "second" Tertius — tertia...

@tchrist The bold set?
@tchrist My, they have grown!
They are not little any more at all.
Is that a dead magpie?
 
Stunned.
It awoke and squawked off.
 
Oh!
Its feathers were undamaged?
They look...ruffled.
It's great that they get along so well.
 
I don’t know if it survived.
 
Victoria and her sister Isabella did not, usually.
 
Lorin captured it up by the pool, and carried it home in his mouth.
One wing was lacerated.
It could not fly, really.
 
4:41 AM
When Isabella died, her sister became significantly happier and more extroverted.
Poor bird. But that's nature...
 
Everyone told me that I would be sad when two boys grew up to not get along.
And it did not happen.
 
It happens to people. But you were spared.
 
Did you know that most of America has no magpies?
 
Hmm.
 
Only the westernmost third or so, which is like 20% of the populace.
 
4:43 AM
Why not the eastern part? That is odd.
 
I have asked myself that many times. I do not know the answer.
I will say though that crows are more noticeable out east than they are here.
Now, I just had 17 of them in the cottonwood this evening, but normally they are less noticeable.
My theory is that we have lots of magpies pushing up on the crow’s ecological niche from below mass-wise, and we have lots of ravens pushing down from above in the same fashion.
While out east, they have no magpies at all and ravens only in the far north.
 
I observed one crow this morning, but I have never seen a magpie.
 
There is also a second species, not Pica pica, in a small isolated area in California.
You must not live in the magenta.
 
But we have all of those birds, and magpies are still everywhere.
 
@tchrist Correct, I largely inhabit pennsylvania.
 
4:49 AM
My, you must be large.
 
@Cerberus All grown up.
 
I don’t know why. The essential difference is that the magenta part sees much less rainfall and so has little to no deciduous forest.
 
I see.
 
@tchrist Before I google it - I can't say that I even know what a magpie looks like.
 
Notice they are not in the wet part of the Pacific Northwest.
The range stops before the Wet Coast.
 
4:50 AM
We have all kinds of forests...
 
Oh wow, I thought they were black.
 
@Daniel They're mostly black! Shiny black.
 
They are mostly green and blue and violet, and black and white and read all over.
This is not a range reduction, either. They simply were never in the east.
 
I simply was never out west.
 
4:53 AM
 
But pica hudsonia appears to be in the US in that map.
Oh - and in the one before.
I thought you had mentioned pica pica.
 
I always think of the nominate species. Plus the way they split up Pica pica has changed since I learned the rules.
 
Wow - Pica pica pica
 
> Much more recently, Eurasian Magpies reinvaded Western North America, establishing the Black-billed Magpies we see today.
Oh.
No wonder ours and yours look the same.
> A cool story, with multiple migration-waves reminiscent of the stories we’ve heard for bears and bison. Unfortunately it turned out to be totally wrong.
Never mind.
> Magpies, genus Pica, do indeed seem to have evolved from corvid ancestors in or around Korea, but the parallels with the “old” story end there. Korean Magpies, Pica pica sericea*, are the most distantly-related to all other Magpies and seem to have diverged earliest. Magpies from Western Europe across Siberia to Kamchatka are closely-related and a single species.
 
@tchrist If only you could read every word simultaneously, you would never have gotten our hopes up.
 
5:01 AM
 
Pennsylvania just crossed midnight - I have got to rest a bit.
 
> Black-billed Magpies, despite outward appearances, are much more closely-related to Yellow-billed than to any old world Magpies, and it now appears that the 2 North American species are both descended from a common founder population of Eurasian Magpies that migrated to North America 3 or 4 million years ago via Beringia.
Good night.
> While we’re on the topic, all Jays in the New World- Piñon, Scrub, Stellers, Blue, etc.- appear to be a monophyletic family, more closely-related to each other than they are to crows, ravens or magpies.
We have lots of jays here. Lots and lots and lots of jays.
And Clarke’s Nutcracker, but that’s at the higher elevations.
Not counting the Nutcracker, we have 5 jays that come quickly to mind (those four plus the Grey Jay Canada Jay), plus some crosses between Steller and Blue.
Mostly Stellers and Blue at my house.
 
5:33 AM
Gosh.
Interesting distribution that bird has.
 
 
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9:26 AM
hey guys
 
9:57 AM
Just thinking, some of the hatbash things last year let you take advantage of timezones. Some this year refer directly to UTC, but then some don't, like "Stockings Hung by the Fire - start a bounty on Christmas Day". So perhaps a bounty can be started in 24 hours and 3 minutes because it'll be Christmas day on Christmas Island timeanddate.com/worldclock/kiribati/kiritimati
 
@Hugo probably. I managed to get the solstice hat yesterday
 
@MattЭллен yeah, Midway is still yesterday for another hour timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/midway
 
Is it grammatical to say "He is likely to be injured" after seeing a man lying on the road?
 
Is it to me?
likely to be can also be used as an observation of the present condition, then?
 
10:16 AM
yes
 
thanks
 
10:29 AM
Guys, what is the best way to express your opinions more one-worded? I was trying to find a reason about why my skull has a slight "punch-bowl" on top and I wasn't able to find a straight-forward answer without quizzing Google for an hour.
 
10:42 AM
you use tentacles for those antennae of an insect?
 
no. the antennae of an instect are called antennae
 
Tentacles are for an octopus.
 
othanks
 
8 tentacles
 
11:37 AM
Anybody has run into phenomenon called Ilbe in your life?
 
12:10 PM
Ebli was I ere I saw Ilbe.
 
what about the antennae of an octopus?
 
They get better TV reception with those than they do with tentacles.
 
@EnglishMaster balderdash!
 
@Mitch show me an antenna with an octopus
 
show me an anntennum with octopodes, and I'll show you some one who'll correct my ancient grammar
 
12:14 PM
octopapodomilus
 
As Jack said to the giant, "Bean there, done that."
 
@Cerberus What happened to all the magpies on the US east coast? We ate them. mmm... mag pie.
@MattЭллен The next president of Greece
 
I wonder if an octopus would make for a good administrator
lots of arms, so it could file things quickly
but it would be difficult to make a suit for
 
They have very good eyes.
It would probably dry out.
 
They don't make good administrators because they only live for a couple of years.
 
12:26 PM
high turnover
 
Plus no octopus has ever put in for an administrator job. They prefer honest labor.
 
@Robusto not long enough to enact any of their policies. good point
@Robusto like predicting the outcome of world cup matches
 
They don't play in the world cup because it's not clear whether tentacles should be classed as arms or legs.
 
They should have their own league
 
Water polo?
 
12:30 PM
Water marco!
 
Pole vault.. you know to give them a challenge
 
Did Marco Polo even exist? And if he did, did he spend most of his time in a swimming pool?
 
He's real. I saw the movie
 
You will risk nemesis if you undertake such a dangerous project. Does this mean "you will invite catastrophe?"
 
It means you'll piss somebody off.
 
12:34 PM
a downfall caused by an inescapable agent.
"one risks nemesis by uttering such words"
But I found this
nemesis usually means archy enemy right?
so I was confused
 
Guys, I read a book called "Fluent Forever" last time and it taught you about memorising vocabularies in a new manner such as using images and make a collection of it. Do you think this "shiit" works?
 
important research has been done:
["There does not appear to be any real link between the game of Marco Polo and the explorer of the same name, despite the creative efforts by some people, and it is hard to determine when the first game of Marco Polo was played".[6] Nevertheless, HowStuffWorks argues that the explorer inspired the game."](en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_%28game%29#History)
 
@user4215 Nemesis in the quote you give is a literary term. Most people don't know literary terms, unless comic books may be called literature. So I wouldn't use it in that way unless my audience were somewhat scholarly.
 
@user4215 Nemesis is one's primary enemy. I've never heard that first meaning (of catastrophe)
 
tahnks
 
12:38 PM
@EnglishMaster That's a good memorization technique. But to use the word you have travel through your images to get to the word you want.
Use the term in multiple context-full sentences. Language in use is what you want.
 
Right.
I realised my vocabularies are quite limited in boundary of several happenings, situations and locations. What do you recommend to become fluent in vocabularies among all those typically involved locations, happenings and situations?
 
Write a travelogue.
@Rob I am come upon the idea that SE is a social networking site.
 
12:57 PM
What gave it away?
 
Some SE staff read the transcript and was concerned about me, so he sent me an email. Totally unexpected stuff.
 
that's nice of him
 
Do you know anything about it?
 
Well, I hope it's not because someone complained that I was talking too much.
 
1:09 PM
@Robusto Addictive behavioral patterns.
 
@MattЭллен Well, it's actually Tim, and I replied to assure him I was alright.
 
@JasperLoy I doubt it was
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2:11 PM
@EnglishMaster The best for fluency is watching TV at first, then finding someone to talk to. For extending your vocabulary, reading (or listening) to the news is good, but it only gets you 'news' vocabulary like 'defense minister' or 'gross national product' and not practical things like 'windshield wiper' or 'hair conditioner'.
A vocabulary book, organized by subject matter (like Schaum's outlines) gives you both the words themselves and example sentences for context.
 
@EnglishMaster Try the Vocabulary In Use series published by CUP. They also have the Grammar In Use series and the Pronunciation In Use series.
 
@JasperLoy Yeah, I just checked Amazon...there are lots of books on vocab, it'd be best to 'look inside' to see if the kinds of words they have are the ones you want. Do you want to read Jane Austen (get the SAT vocab builders) or do you want to go to the hardware store (actually for that you should go to the hardware store!)
 
2:27 PM
@Mitch Those books I listed are a bit confusing because I think they have different versions for AmE and BrE. So I would check the CUP website first to make sure it is the correct version before buying from somewhere, note @EnglishMaster.
@Mitch Actually I really need to work on my vocab too, but I think it's OK to do not so well for the English part of GRE.
 
Thanks all and marry X-Mas.
1) I love news, TA. However I don't have enough patience to read news on subjects other than tech. It's just so tormenting to read about politics and etc, which still limits my vocabulary learning boundary.
2) TA
3) Thanks always.
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