The 2nd Monitor

RubberDuck

4:00 PM

Fun fun. Love me some paperwork.

Ismael Miguel

I'm screwed

RubberDuck

Still working on that sorting algorithm @Morwenn?

Morwenn

I had to wake up to bake a pandan financier again. Otherwise, it's a good day. Family party at noon, and party with friends this evening.

@RubberDuck Which algorithm?

RubberDuck

Maybe that wasn't you.

Ismael Miguel

My boss just sprayed a perfume I'm allergic to. It makes me sneeze and suffer a lot.

RubberDuck

4:02 PM

Someone was writing a custom sort a while back. Could have sworn it was you.

Morwenn

@RubberDuck I'm still working on a sorting library, but I didn't really implement any actual algorithm by myself.

RubberDuck

Ahh. My mistake.

Morwenn

I'm only trying to make it a general purpose sorting library (whatever it means) and the default sorter is made with blocks of the library.

When you want to sort an object, it checks whether the object has a sort method and use it if there is one. Otherwise, if it's an std::array or a fixed-size C array whose size is inferior to 10, it uses sorting networks, otherwise it uses a pattern-defeating quicksort for random access iterables and an insertion sort for bidirectional iterables.

RubberDuck

Still sounds like an interesting project to me.

Morwenn

using default_sorter = self_sorter<
    small_array_sorter<
        hybrid_sorter<
            insertion_sorter,
            pdq_sorter
        >,
        std::make_index_sequence<10u>
    >
>;

The problem is to devise generic building blocks instead of writing just one big sorting object.

Captain Obvious

4:05 PM

0

Q: Webapp : Rest Client API design and implementation (with RestEasy)

I am working on a design to create a generic rest client for our application for current and future integration's with multiple services (different external systems). Following is a high level diagram I am thinking of creating a RestClient per external host, and Store them in a Map with Servic...

Heslacher

@CaptainObvious Broken code

RubberDuck

@CaptainObvious language please?

Morwenn

I'm not smart enough to create a new sorting algorithm, but I can try to take the best out of the interesting ones.

Hosch250

@Morwenn I read that as traitor_sorts.

Morwenn

@Hosch250 It sorts an array then shuffles it when you're not watching.

RubberDuck

4:07 PM

Well, I think coming up with some heuristics on when to use which kind of sort is pretty interesting stuff.

Lol.

3

skiwi

@EBrown Pretty strong window then at least ;)

Morwenn

Yes, but my heuristics are only compile-time ones. Otherwise, I actually writing a novel algorithm :)

EBrown

@skiwi Well the way the car got hit, the trunk pushed to front of itself up instead of into the window. :)

skiwi

I wonder though if everything else on the car (except the back of course) is withotu damage

Hosch250

@Malachi It is working again.

EBrown

4:10 PM

@skiwi Well that's why they are taking more time on it, apparently.

Malachi

@Hosch250 awesome

Hosch250

Maybe the unit tests aren't passing.

RubberDuck

ok got it. Thanks for pointing i am at a wrong forum. — bornleo 42 secs ago

sigh

Hosch250

@RubberDuck Obligatory SE is NOT a forum.

Malachi

Respectfully Disagree != Down Vote

RubberDuck

4:14 PM

Right @Hosch250?

Mat's Mug

@EBrown Sentra isn't a Versa. I owned both.. Versa is a sub-compact model, Sentra is bigger

RubberDuck

Problems on meta @Malachi?

Malachi

@RubberDuck no, not meta. --> codereview.stackexchange.com/a/101572/18427 what do you think about what I proposed?

EBrown

@Mat'sMug I know, that was the thing. It's like turning a Sentra into a Versa.

Mat's Mug

oh lol

EBrown

4:15 PM

I was changing the analogy from Focus -> Fiesta, to Sentra -> Versa. :)

Hosch250

@EBrown Let's invade DIY.

I post a question - I bought a Sentra. I want a Versa. How can I remedy this.

Malachi

@RubberDuck I should have used a question mark....

Hosch250

You write an answer - get in a car accident.

Mat's Mug

yeah.... nope.

Legato

@EBrown here

EBrown

4:17 PM

@Hosch250 Well I quickly figured out how to shorten the curb-length of a Fusion by about six inches. :)

@Legato This isn't suspicious.

Legato

It should be, but run it, it's important.

Hosch250

No way.

EBrown

Omg.

Hosch250

What is Javaliant anyway?

EBrown

This is perfection.

Hosch250

4:18 PM

I've seen it before, but I don't have Java on my system.

Legato

Just a random name I chose when I made the github account.

I started out with java and I wanted to be valiant about learning it I guess?

Simon André Forsberg

@RubberDuck A cross-poster!? Poof, gone.

Ismael Miguel

@Malachi I've edited the text a bit on your answer. Feel free to revert/improve

Legato

@Hosch250 You should at least have a JRE.

Hosch250

@Legato Once you put Java in, you can't get it out without reinstalling Windows.

EBrown

4:21 PM

@Legato I am keeping this forever. :)

RubberDuck

@Malachi I like what you did actually. If the data will be exactly equal to one more often than not, then it's slightly more efficient.

Legato

I'm glad to hear it. :)

Hosch250

@Legato s/here/hear

RubberDuck

Premature optimization maybe.

Legato

@Hosch250 It's just a single file you delete, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Hosch250

4:22 PM

I searched my registry and file system before and after installing/uninstalling Java.

There were Java files left all over by the uninstaller.

Millions of them.

Malachi

@IsmaelMiguel looks good to me

Ismael Miguel

@Malachi If you see any spelling mistake, please edit it. This keyboard eats key presses

Legato

@Hosch250 I think those are just registry entries.

Hosch250

Files too.

Malachi

@RubberDuck from what I can read of the code, they are passing in a filename and retrieving a specific file, if there is more than one file with the same filename then there is probably something wrong with the file structure? am I reading that wrong?

Legato

4:26 PM

I've never heard of that. How large, in total?

Jamal

I got my first bounty! :D It may not be got a CR post, but I'll take what I can get.

5

Legato

That's awesome. @Jamal Congrats.

Now just three more people from here need to vote it so you also get a badge. ;)

Jamal

Since it was answered the same day, it must've been an "exceptional answer" bounty.

Ismael Miguel

@Jamal Nice info! I wasn't aware of it

EBrown

Rather lengthy question posted.

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Q: Entities and the things they do

So I have an Entity, which is responsible for providing an abstract base for other objects to inherit. (Like Actor objects, which are people, Creature objects, which are animals, etc.) The Entity provides a solid foundation for Actor and Creature to interact with, I'm just curious if it's not go...

c# game .net xna

Legato

4:35 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg What do you recommend for JSON parsing?

Simon André Forsberg

@Legato In Java? Jackson. In Groovy? Groovy has some built-in stuff for that.

Legato

Thank you Simon.

Captain Obvious

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Q: Entities and the things they do

So I have an Entity, which is responsible for providing an abstract base for other objects to inherit. (Like Actor objects, which are people, Creature objects, which are animals, etc.) The Entity provides a solid foundation for Actor and Creature to interact with, I'm just curious if it's not go...

c# game .net xna

Malachi

Basically... Editception? — Jamal ♦ 58 secs ago

LOL

2

Legato

@Malachi I like your answer.

Malachi

4:48 PM

thank you @Legato

Ismael Miguel

I ~~hate~~ love clients!

Specially those who just storm through the store!

Hosch250

Client looks over your shoulder

Malachi

anyone remember what I was going to do at lunch? I know I said it in chat somewhere

Hosch250

@Malachi Eat?

Malachi

you do that at lunch time?

I usually write more code, but at home....

Ismael Miguel

4:55 PM

@Hosch250 The thing is that I'm 6m away from the entrance, while the client simply rushes and doesn't listen

And to help even more, I was going to say to a client, over email: "Carp Richard"

Malachi

@EBrown @EBrown you can chain inheritance

Simon André Forsberg

5:17 PM

@nhgrif Someone else editted it and spoilt it... :/ I've rolled back. — Hassan Althaf 3 mins ago

@Malachi ^^

Mat's Mug

#LessonLearned

Simon André Forsberg

Unfortunately, Hassan hasn't learned his lesson. Question is still unclear, and code broken.

nhgrif

Exactly.

Mat's Mug

@SimonAndréForsberg a chat invite seems in order

nhgrif

The lesson is learned when Hassan sees that his version of the question is broken and Hassan himself makes the necessary fixes.

Unless @Mat'sMug was implying lesson learned for @Malachi?

Captain Obvious

5:24 PM

0

Q: code for a simple hotel reservation system

My code is a reservations software for hotel and restaurant management; allowing you to add and delete rooms, show available rooms, keep track of reservations etc. Am looking to trim my code a bit and improve upon the style since it's a little cluttered right now. I believe the use of classes wi...

oop python3

nhgrif

Damn, you're right. Looks likeI will have to roll back to the prime version. — Hassan Althaf 3 mins ago

Legato

Saw that.

:|

Case in point though.

Blames Malachi.

Mat's Mug

@nhgrif I was

nhgrif

It's not Malachi's fault it was broken. But the question shouldnt have been asked in the first place and we need to stop making assumptions for the OP.

Legato

Of course it isn't. I just hate that he blames him, and yes that's exactly the reason we can't make assumptions for people. The OP himself is making assumptions about his code working so well that it's the other guy who broke it.

nhgrif

5:29 PM

When we bend over backwards to turn off-topic posts on-topic instead of expecting the OP to do that, we are encouraging people to ask off-topic questions since they know the community will fix it.

We have enough zombies to answer. I don't think we're in desperate need of more questions, are we?

Malachi

if the edit wasn't broken.....

Legato

I don't even think about it as a slippery slope, it's just about a minimum cost of entry to me, that really isn't asking much, that in fact they should want since it would give them the best results, but meh.

nhgrif

Malachi, the only edit I would have been okay with would have been rolling back his edit since it started as on topic and he edited into unclear. Anything but a rollback (or don't touch) makes too large an assumption in some way

Legato

@nhgrif See his answer on the meta.

nhgrif

What if instead of your edit, I stuck comparative review tag on it?

Mat's Mug

5:32 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Fixed, can this be re-opened? — Hassan Althaf 1 min ago

nhgrif

If he didn't rollback, wait for me to look

Mat's Mug

if I weren't a mod, I'd vote to reopen. looks like an ok question, not blatantly asking for help fixing a problem

waiting for a change in question's status to roomba da comments

Ismael Miguel

I've voted to open it

CommitStrip

5:48 PM

http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/08/21/the-story-of-a-coder-who-doesnt-speak-english/
CommitStrip - Blog relating the daily life of web agencies developers
The story of a coder who doesn’t speak english
CommitStrip
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Mat's Mug

@CommitStrip API du fromage? lol

Ismael Miguel

@Mat'sMug Dexter's Lab reference?

Mat's Mug

> Hamza Heisenberg · Montreal, Quebec
API du fromage ! I laughed harder than i should've !

Line 132 is missing a semicolon — random 7 mins ago

Jeroen Vannevel

Lol, there's an ad on that tutoring site I use for someone that wants to learn some more VBA

I'm not that desperate for the money though

Ismael Miguel

Can you translate that thing to me?

Please?

I really don't get it...

Legato

5:57 PM

?

Ismael Miguel

The commitstrip

It's French to me

I can't understand it

Jeroen Vannevel

They're making fun of people who write their code in French

Simon André Forsberg

@IsmaelMiguel fromage = cheese. "API of chesse"

what Jeroen said ^^

Ismael Miguel

@SimonAndréForsberg I know that

Legato

I don't think he literally means he doesn't get that part, but why is it funny.

Ismael Miguel

6:00 PM

And Jeron is on my ignore list

Legato

I think it's about people obfuscating their code so no one else can really use it.

Ismael Miguel

@Legato Exactly!

Simon André Forsberg

and they're just crazy in general. I don't see what's "great" about having to redevelop everything if switching language

Ismael Miguel

I was thinking something somewhat there

Mat's Mug

job security

Ismael Miguel

6:01 PM

You confused me

Simon André Forsberg

@IsmaelMiguel that's an interesting decision to have made.... but either way, CommitStrip is too, right?

Ismael Miguel

@SimonAndréForsberg Well, I decided that this is not a daycare and I won't have to put up with man-childs.

That's why he is on ignore

Jeroen Vannevel

I'm mostly upset that he spelled my name wrong. It's only 6 letters after all

Ismael Miguel

And I have CommitStrip on ignore because it isn't funny

And I'm simply not interested

I have to think too much to get the jokes

And when I get them, they suck

Because the fun was lost in the way

Jeroen Vannevel

He got butthurt because I was tired of him dragging out a conversation and I told him I would stop replying

Which is apparently how man-childs behave now

Captain Obvious

6:04 PM

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Q: Display data in Visual Studio C# Form

Creating my first Application, I am having a lot of trouble displaying data in my form. Currently I am trying to use a listbox to display information(someone please let me know if there is a better object for this case). Below I am posting my data object mode and form code. The DataSource "allCha...

c#

0

Q: code that looks directory within directory to look for file

path = '/Users/ceaser/Music' import os allSongs = [] for folder in os.walk(path): for item in folder[-1]: name, ext = os.path.splitext(item) if ext in ['.mp3', '.wma', '.wav', '.ogg']: allSongs.append(name) I have written this code to build a list by looking ins...

python performance iteration

Legato

Seems like I missed a lot...

Ismael Miguel

Not really

SirPython

@Legato Nice new profile picture!

Simon André Forsberg

@IsmaelMiguel Then don't say that you don't get it. Just ignore it instead.

Mat's Mug

oh wow, a new monkey!

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Ismael Miguel

6:07 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg But I want to understand the joke. In fact, this was the first time someone explained one of those

Legato

All the room's tags fit me but one, so I fixed it.

Simon André Forsberg

@Legato But this is nice-people-room, not nice-monkeys-room

Ismael Miguel

codereview.stackexchange.com/help/badges/18/…

Shinny!

Legato

I agree. This is just business.

I feel like if people down-vote a question and it gets closed and reopened they should get a signal of some sort.

Ismael Miguel

@Legato That is a good idea, but it could reveal what users downvoted. How someone could find it out? No idea

Mat's Mug

6:14 PM

a little ping in your SE inbox wouldn't reveal anything to anyone

Legato

^

Ismael Miguel

True

Can you see others' -1 due to downvotes?

Legato

Downvotes happen to people all the time, do you notice them?

Ismael Miguel

That's not what I meant

Legato

This wouldn't be different voting is anonymous. You'd only come close to noticing it if someone actually posted an answer, you wouldn't see that if the question was closed on arrival.

Ismael Miguel

6:17 PM

On the reputation tab, on your profile, can you see others' downvotes?

Mat's Mug

why don't you check someone's profile and check?

Legato

^

Ismael Miguel

Because I don't know if someone else downvoted something

Mat's Mug

if I downvote one of your posts, your reputation tab will show "-2 Downvoted"

Hosch250

You can see if you get a downvote from your profile.

Ismael Miguel

6:19 PM

...

If I go to, say, Simon's profile, can I see his downvotes on the reputation tab?

Mat's Mug

votes are anonymous

you can't see who's voting for who

nobody can

Hosch250

I thought you could trick SEDE into telling you?

Mat's Mug

nope

Simon André Forsberg

@IsmaelMiguel stackoverflow.com/users/1310566/… what does it say for me yesterday?

Hosch250

OK.

Legato

6:22 PM

Hm, I learned about the user removed effect heh.

Mat's Mug

in other news, Open-Source beta is closing 08/21

Simon André Forsberg

naaaw

Mat's Mug

@SimonAndréForsberg in TL right now

oh shit

Mast

@Legato New avatar?

Mat's Mug

it's "Open Science"

never heard of

Legato

6:24 PM

@Mast Aye.

Mast

@Mat'sMug That idea didn't go very well, so I'm not too sorry about that.

Ismael Miguel

@SimonAndréForsberg It says nothing

Mast

@Legato We didn't have enough monkeys yet? ^^

Mat's Mug

18 mins ago, by Mat's Mug

oh wow, a new monkey!

Simon André Forsberg

@IsmaelMiguel well, there's your answer. I did downvote something yesterday.

Captain Obvious

6:25 PM

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Q: Tic Tac Toe: OO Design and Implementation

I want to learn OO design and as a start, I implemented Tic Tac Toe. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the design and implementation. Classes: Player - Has just a name as of now. I hope to develop this more to use for other similar situations. Board - Has a 3x3 matrix and takes care of checking ...

java oop tic-tac-toe

Ismael Miguel

@SimonAndréForsberg Did you got the -2?

Mat's Mug

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Q: Let's move some negatively scored answers from the top spot

Internally, we've been discussing how we can deal with obsolete or out-of-date answers. A few weeks ago, I requested some feedback on how to encourage edits to these types of answers, while I'm still wading through everything on that post but now I'm focusing my attention on the problem of negat...

discussion feature-request accepted-answer sorting feedback

Simon André Forsberg

@IsmaelMiguel No. -1. I downvoted, not was downvoted.

~~I never get downvoted~~

Ismael Miguel

@SimonAndréForsberg That, sorry. Thanks for helping me out on this one

Legato

More Tic Tac Toe!

Tic Tac OO

Ismael Miguel

6:28 PM

@Legato I have one in VB6

Legato

I kinda wanna rename it...

It's a nightmare!

xD

@Legato Tic Tac T-OO

It's around 600 lines of pure headaches and unreadableness

Legato

6:29 PM

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Q: Ultimate Tic Tac Toe A.K.A. Tic Tactics

My attempt at this challenge., incorporating lessons from this question, which turned out into a much bigger project than I anticipated, but it works. I'll definitely be refactoring most of this in the future, maybe going the MVC route. I tried a lot of new things here and am curious which are go...

java oop tic-tac-toe community-challenge javafx

Mat's Mug

@IsmaelMiguel and you're blaming VB6 I guess?

Legato

There's a mess :]

Mat's Mug

are we in the MVC future yet?

Legato

I need to get on that level...Wait was that directed at me?

Ismael Miguel

@Mat'sMug I blame my 17-years-old self

Mat's Mug

6:33 PM

this site could use a few more vb6 posts. IIRC I posted the last vb6 question here

nevermind, I didn't

skiwi

The world could use no vb6 anymore ;-)

Ismael Miguel

@Legato That one is quite mesmerizing! It looks fantastic!

Mat's Mug

the tag is 25% badgeable

Ismael Miguel

I'm too ashamed to post my code

Mat's Mug

that's not how you learn

Ismael Miguel

6:34 PM

Besides, it crashes VB6 if you try to build it

Mat's Mug

hmm

Ismael Miguel

VB6 crashes when opening the designer to show the form

Mat's Mug

too many controls? overlapping ones?

Ismael Miguel

I have around 10 controls

And a menu

Mat's Mug

that shouldn't be a problem

Ismael Miguel

6:35 PM

And 1 hidden control, I think

I know

Mat's Mug

I've seen VB6 code compile, with 160-some controls on a form, some overlapping across like 3 layers

Ismael Miguel

I can re-send the project to you, if you want

Mat's Mug

just upload it to, say, GitHub

Ismael Miguel

I'm not sure if I want that shameful thing showing there :/

Mat's Mug

but if you haven't already, you should try the TicTactics community-challenge, it's very cool. and try playing a game, too - it has nothing to do with Tic-Tac-Toe really

Hosch250

6:39 PM

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Q: September 2015 Community Challenge

It's time to choose a community-challenge for September 2015. Post your challenge as an answer to this question. Feel free to resubmit non-winning ideas from previous months. Vote for those answers which interest you. At the end-of-day on Monday, August 31st, the top-voted post will become the ...