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@DamkerngT. Do you think my answers on ELL are okay? Because it seems like not many folks like them. Many answers that I have given in the past week are at zero votes.

user116848

Or is it okay?

Damkerng T.

4:19 PM

I don't think of clicking on the upvote button as "like" (as in Facebook), but you could say that we upvote the posts we like.

user116848

@DamkerngT. haha Yeah, I hate facebook.

Damkerng T.

Lately, I upvote only answers I think are really good.

user116848

Tell me about it! :)

user116848

@DamkerngT. Yeah, me too.

user116848

facebook is all likey likey.

Damkerng T.

4:20 PM

This doesn't mean that the rest of the answers which I didn't vote on are bad.

@Arrowfar It's too late for all of us not to have Facebook around us.

user116848

SE is good in a way that we have the option of 'dislikey' too

user116848

@DamkerngT. Yep. That is true.

user116848

Unless something better than facebook comes along.

Damkerng T.

Some speculated that facebook will collapse on itself, not because of something new or better.

user116848

Yeah, some people are leaving facebook I hear.

Damkerng T.

4:23 PM

(Now I'm confused if I should capitalize the F of Facebook.)

user116848

They have their reasons

user116848

The main one being facebook is too personal and it can make things messy for some folks, you know.

user116848

So, I like the comment that Jasper made in chat once:

user116848

in The Overlook Hotel, Sep 16 at 18:54, by Will Hunting

It is painful to see pictures of someone you like with someone else.

user116848

On facebook that is.

user116848

4:26 PM

Very true LOL

Damkerng T.

Ahh

user116848

Oh, but it is not my comment lol

user116848

I just starred that comment there :)

Anonymous

@Arrowfar My latest answers doesn't have any upvotes either

Anonymous

And the other answer has only one upvote (from me!)

Anonymous

4:31 PM

It has only 57 views in 6 days

Anonymous

Some questions just aren't very active

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Maybe because this voter haven't read any questions yet today!

Anonymous

The ones with a lot of upvotes are usually the ones that get promoted

Anonymous

In the Hot Network Questions sidebar

Anonymous

When a question gets promoted in the HNQ sidebar, it inflates the votes a lot

Anonymous

4:33 PM

I don't think it means people dislike my answer, although that's possible

Anonymous

Probably most people didn't even see it :-)

Damkerng T.

Oh, my! This one is our hot question: ell.stackexchange.com/q/38100/3281

Anonymous

It's not very hot :-)

Damkerng T.

I guess we can learn a language any way we like. :-)

Anonymous

94 views in 3 hours means it probably has a little bit of promotion

Damkerng T.

4:35 PM

This one probably was the next to last hot question on ELL: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/37807/…

I think ELL is becoming English and Early Modern English Language Learners.

Anonymous

4 reopen votes

Damkerng T.

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Q: what is the term of a person that cannot be honest with themselves and fakes happiness

what is term of an emotionally void person who cannot be honest with themselves and fakes their own happiness? and they obsess about a childhood that was terrible but the make it into a fantasy.

word-request

Maybe it's just me, but I think I don't understand the question. At least, I'm not sure I can guess the meaning right.

Anonymous

The title of the question sounds like it's asking "What is the term for (What do you call) a person that isn't honest with themselves and pretends to be happy when they're not"

Anonymous

Something like that

Anonymous

The question body muddies things somewhat

Damkerng T.

4:46 PM

@snailboat The feeling I got when I read the title was entirely differently from when I read the details. I'm not sure where the obsess, emotionally void, childhood, and fantasy come in.

Anonymous

Yeah, the question body makes it a bit less clear what they're asking

user116848

@DamkerngT. I gave it a try though. It looked like I knew what they were asking.

user116848

Let's see.....

user116848

Maybe I am wrong. Maybe, maybe....

user116848

Like "She/He looks at the world through rose-colored glasses."

user116848

4:55 PM

But they are very vague in what they are asking.

user116848

Oh, it already has a close vote.

user116848

Oh, okay.

user116848

Forget it Arrow!

user116848

@DamkerngT. Have you watched Tennage mutant Ninja turtles film?

Damkerng T.

@Arrowfar Nope.

Anonymous

5:00 PM

@Arrowfar What question?

user116848

@snailboat I asked it later in ELU chat, Matt answered.

Anonymous

I didn't see a question to be ignored

user116848

It was a riddle for you. Well, I had pinged you the previous day with the question.

user116848

Never mind.

Anonymous

Never mind is two words

Anonymous

5:05 PM

Or at least it's standardly written with a space

Anonymous

You could consider that a matter of spelling if you like

user116848

okay, thanks.

Damkerng T.

Question of the day: How would you pronounce blithely?

user116848

►

user116848

Seems like a stupid audio.

user116848

5:13 PM

I use my own pronunciation dictionary though.

Damkerng T.

So, Emma voiced it.

Anonymous

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people didn't voice it

Damkerng T.

> I wonder, is there an offensive English word for people, who offence the others? I mean a word, that translates literally as "a guy, who offence people" and can not be applied to other circumstances, but anyone see more that this simple meaning in it and would not like to hear it about him\her.
There is no such thing in my language, so I can not use translators here unfortunately.
http://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/38123/offensive-word-for-people-who-offence-the-others

Ahh... Is that how machines construct sentences? (They say they can't use translators here, so I guess that they used a translator to write their question.)

user116848

Culprit, offender, wrongdoer....

Anonymous

I don't think their single word request has an answer

Anonymous

5:18 PM

But you could suggest terms they could use in that situation which have a slightly more general meaning

Anonymous

books.google.com/ngrams/…

Anonymous

Nevermind is on the rise!

Anonymous

COCA has 3428 results for never mind and 100 for nevermind

Anonymous

Of course, some of those are for Nirvana's album Nevermind

Damkerng T.

The Rise of Nevermind!

Anonymous

5:20 PM

But I wonder if eventually nevermind will usually be spelled without a space

Anonymous

Both Google Books and COCA are lagging informal online usage

Damkerng T.

Maybe it will be like anyway, goodbye, etc. someday.

Anonymous

Because people who write nevermind today will have it copy edited into never mind in published works

Anonymous

If we search GloWbE, we find 13284 for never mind and 1835 for nevermind

Anonymous

I suspect that reflects some copy editing, too, and that the proportion of people who think it should be spelled nevermind is actually higher

user62015

5:22 PM

Hi Snail and Dam!

Anonymous

I would not be surprised to see it overtake never mind in my lifetime

Anonymous

Hello!

Damkerng T.

Hi!

Anonymous

Arrowfar is here, too

user62015

I was reading a paragraph on the BBC news and I think there was a typo mistake or maybe I did not understand it properly.

Anonymous

5:23 PM

What was the paragraph?

user62015

Here is the paragraph:

if hearing that the CEO [chief executive] of Apple is gay can help someone struggling to come to terms with who he or she is, or bring comfort to anyone who feels alone, or inspire people to insist on their equality, then it's worth the trade-off with my own privacy," he added.

But I think it should have been:

if hearing that the CEO [chief executive] of Apple is gay can help someone struggling to come to terms with who he or she is, or bring comfort to anyone who feels alone, or inspires people to insist on their equality, then it's worth the trade-off with my own privacy," he added.

I made one correction.

Anonymous

Ah, it got cut off (it should have "So, at the beginning)

Anonymous

> "So if hearing that the CEO [chief executive] of Apple is gay can help someone struggling to come to terms with who he or she is, or bring comfort to anyone who feels alone, or inspire people to insist on their equality, then it's worth the trade-off with my own privacy," he added.

Anonymous

bbc.com/news/business-29829763

user62015

Who feels alone, or inspires*

Anonymous

5:25 PM

This is a coordination of non-finite verb phrases

user62015

Okay.

Damkerng T.

I'm back!

user62015

Great!

Anonymous

1. if hearing that the CEO of Apple is gay can [help someone struggling to come to terms with who he or she is], or

Anonymous

2. ~~if hearing that the CEO of Apple is gay can~~ [bring comfort to anyone who feels alone], or

Anonymous

5:26 PM

3. ~~if hearing that the CEO of Apple is gay can~~ [inspire people to insist on their equality]

Damkerng T.

nods -- The inspire there is fine.

Anonymous

Help, bring, and inspire are all non-finite verb forms.

user62015

Okay.

I am watching both of you.

Damkerng T.

PS. Seeing that Macmillan changes the ads and YouTube changes my suggestion list according to my surfing pattern, I feel like our Big Brother is a stalker.

Anonymous

@user62015 Oh, my explanation was finished

Anonymous

5:31 PM

I can try to elaborate if you still don't get it

Damkerng T.

(Perhaps, from now on I will get stalking movies suggested when I search for anything on IMDb.)

@user62015 I don't have anything to add. :-)

user62015

Thanks.

I am done for the day.

Damkerng T.

> ell.stackexchange.com/q/38124/3281

English perfect is a mystery unsolved for all learners!

user116848

Why are people asking for offensive words? Here:

user116848

+1. The meaning is correct, but are they really offensive? I do not see that dictionary marks them offensive or at least informal, like nigger, nerd, noob. — klm123 8 mins ago

user116848

5:41 PM

@klm123 Well, if you want 'offensive' then try 'lowlife'. — Arrowfar 3 mins ago

user116848

We are not some swear words dictionary lol

Damkerng T.

5:53 PM

It looks like they just want to provoke us to post the most heavily tabooed word of all English words as the answer.

user116848

@DamkerngT. Yeah

Anonymous

I voted to close

Anonymous

This question appears to be off-topic because it is a request for a word or short phrase which unfortunately does not exist. (I originally wrote "single-word request", but the question was edited after my close vote.) — snailboat 3 mins ago

Ice Boy

looks like a troll magnet

looks like a job for Skull Pa Troll :-)

Anonymous

The Skulpa Troll!

Anonymous

6:04 PM

Trolling for Skulpas.

2

Ice Boy

:D

Damkerng T.

I had another strange conversation with Siri today!

user116848

@DamkerngT. Great application :D

Damkerng T.

(The screenshot was made after the fact. The first time Siri showed the alarm list, both alarms were off.)

Indeed. But today she double-checked me, "just to be clear". :-)

user116848

@DamkerngT. Can one install this application in computer?

user116848

6:12 PM

Or is it only a cell app?

Damkerng T.

I don't know, but it comes with recent models of iPhone/iPad.

user116848

Yeah.

Damkerng T.

I think Android has something similar, too.

user116848

nods

Damkerng T.

I'm also thinking about buying a new phone. It looks like a good smartphone is much cheaper now.

Anonymous

6:17 PM

I've forgotten whether my phone is an iPhone 5 or iPhone 5s

Anonymous

Apparently the non-s one

Anonymous

It says MD664LL/A

Damkerng T.

Oh, I've never checked it out!

It says MD793TH/A

I wonder if TH means Thailand.

Maybe TH is for Thin. :-)

Anonymous

I was assuming the 64 was for 64GB

Anonymous

But now I'm questioning that, since your iPad is presumably not 93GB...? :-)

Damkerng T.

6:20 PM

Definitely not!

:-)

Mine is just 64GB, same as yours.

Anonymous

A decidedly odd number.

Anonymous

iPads are apparently 129 more than iPhones! 129 what, I'm not sure

Damkerng T.

129 more means $129 less, perhaps. :-)

Anonymous

I still haven't updated from iOS 7

Damkerng T.

Oh, me either!

I remember an upgrade on my old iPad ruined a fews apps.

Oh, another good thing that I still keep my old iPad around is that it has an older version of PEU while the PEU was auto-upgraded on the new iPad. And the older version searches better!

s/keep my iPad/keep my old iPad/

Anonymous

6:30 PM

And like magic, the RE was applied!

Damkerng T.

Hah! Thanks!

Sawarnik

6:59 PM

Hi @Damkerng :)

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