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5:00 PM
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vzn
@Slereah lol sounds like copenhagen interpretation to me :P
 
@Slereah lol, someone has too much time
 
what does
 
Though that page does seem quite useful
@Slereah Follow the little arrow!
 
It is a good site
It lists a whole bunch of differential equation solutions
Copenhagen isn't really official
It's not even majority
The split tends to be Copenhagen/Many World
 
vzn
5:03 PM
@Slereah whoa think not many adhere to "many world", apparently distinct minority. it would be interesting to see a survey somewhere. how can you say copenhagen is not majority? find that difficult to believe unless there is some other option like "dont care/ doesnt matter" (and then one immediately wonders how that would be different than copenhagen!)...
 
::raises hand:: I don't care.
 
vzn
lol whoa just wrote/ revised that half thinking of ACs sentiments on here... cybersynchronicity...
 
vzn
:(
 
There is a survey, actually
It has a pretty small sample size, though
Like 40 people
 
vzn
5:08 PM
@DanielSank some further thoughts. seem to have inadvertently stumbled into an ongoing debate in here about theoretical vs applied science, etc. ... think you have unique pov & many excellent points & would urge you to develop them further, eg into a blog (on google!). have personally long observed/ thought about science, capitalism, & the intersection of the two. we dont have the same sentiments exactly but agree they are subjects/ areas of vital or even critical importance.
 
Hm, that one has Copenhagen higher than the previous one
But then again, variance is to be expected with small samples
Maybe the previous conference was full of cosmologists :p
 
vzn
DS contd. an interesting case study that was thinking of is Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) technology, pivotal in DNA sequencing, his story is very informative/ relevant. he wrote a book called "dancing through the mind field".
 
0% for Bohm
Sad
 
vzn
DS contd. another case study is nobel prizes which are often split 2-3 ways, diminishing their monetary value, and tend to be awarded later in life these days. this was the case with Bardeen (who was cited earlier). so, big monetary reward/ payoff for practicing science, not exactly. ofc Nobel prizes while highly prestigious are like winning the scientific lottery...
@Slereah thx for that hadnt heard of it will check it out!
 
It's a sample of 33 people
 
5:14 PM
"Finally, looking back, we regret not to have included the "shut up and calculate" interpretation in our poll."
 
The previous one had 48
Would be nice if there was a large scale study
 
vzn
@Slereah hey how about something really new/ fresh? instead of the decades old grandfathers oldsmobile? :D
 
there's plenty of new interpretations popping up all the time man
If there's one thing we are not running out, it's QM interpretations
 
vzn
@ACuriousMind many consider Copenhagen = "shut up and calculate"!
 
Although to be fair
A lot of them are vague ideas
Like branching spacetime
I've seen a lot of topology work done on it
But 0 papers actually deal with quantum particles
Also the ER = EPR thing
"Maybe wormholes???"
 
vzn
5:17 PM
@Slereah have to run soon but [now donning flameproof suit here] what do you think of bohm? we had some knockdown dragout "conversations" on it in this chat room in past.
 
Bohm's not a bad interpretation?
It's a nice reminder that you can have deterministic one if you're fine with non-locality
 
vzn
@Slereah lol hey say that like you mean it man, not afraid to independently think & without the hedging question mark!
 
Though IIRC, it had troubles keeping up
 
vzn
@Slereah ER=?
 
The relativistic version of Bohm only came out like 10 years ago
Einstein Rosen
there was a paper that found out that in AdS-CFT, the entropy of wormholes and entangled states of some theory was equal
So some people jumped on it
Maybe a bit early to make a new QM interpretation with such a vague link
Jumping on things too early is a great way to make papers
Oh man all those papers that tried to explain the FTL neutrinos
Boy were their face red
 
5:30 PM
@vzn A blog? I've never done that before. Interesting.
I feel I'd be likely to expose myself as an ignorant ass.
 
I tried blogging once. I sucked at it
 
I do best when information exchange is cast in one of two ways:
1) Socratic method
2) Point -> challenge -> revise
These are both possible in monologue writing, but not trivial.
 
Well, do you know that you know nothing???
 
Is there another possible method?
 
I'd have to "argue" with myself.
@KyleKanos Well sure. Some people just dictate information. Consider a typical pedagogical lecture, for example.
 
5:34 PM
Hmm. I suppose there's that
 
I mean, when I lived on the east coast the point -> challenge thing was the foundation of social interaction, but when I moved out west I found it made people uncomfortable.
Folks here prefer a more agreeable response. The "challenge" phase has to be done in a very peculiar way: "Yes, I see what you mean. Also..." instead of "That's clearly wrong and here's why...".
 
I have been repeatedly asked variants of "Why do you guys hate each other?" after someone witnessed me debating something with a certain friend. Apparently, what is a perfectly fine discussion in our mind sounds like a vicious fight to others :D
 
@ACuriousMind That's probably because you're doing it in German and German sounds like hate
 
@KyleKanos It sounds like a fight to other Germans
It also probably doesn't help that my default mode of talking is quite loud :P
 
@KyleKanos Awww German sounds so nice some times. Very... rounded sound.
@ACuriousMind ...and then there's that >.<
 
5:40 PM
@ACuriousMind They probably just don't know German then
 
@KyleKanos You're reminding me of a quote: "Tell someone today you love them, because life is short. But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying"
 
@Slereah I think I know some things.
 
6:34 PM
Hm
Are there any papers for the stress energy tensor of the Thirring model
I should buy a book for the Thirring model
"Nonperturbative Quantum Field Theory" seems to be one, but
I dunno
Lots of string theory stuff
I guessUI'll settle for the book that is the least expensive!
"The sine-Gordon Model and its Applications" is about 20 bucks!
 
 
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TeX is a gift from the gods
 
yeah, it is no small perk
19th century papers are even worse
With big blocky print types
 
8:39 PM
TeX is decent
But the Psi and Lambda suck
At least on the default font
 
The font has nothing to do with TeX itself.
 
amsmath?
 
Yes
@ACuriousMind tsk.
 
Ah, I think I finally found a decent explanation of the Thirring model
Most of them do it with path integrals and it complicates things more than necessary
The original solution was much simpler
 
9:32 PM
Hola
 
helloo
 
 
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10:40 PM
@ACuriousMind I could answer this, but can't decide if it's a homework question.
 
@0celo7 I'm not sure whether it's homework because I don't really understand what the question is about. Did you understand the question without looking up the actual exercise in Wald?
 
@ACuriousMind ...I know the exercise because I've done it :P
 
Ah, I understand it now because I saw the intended paragraphs when I went to edit it...it always amazes me how many people use simple line breaks in there and apparently never notice that their posts don't show these line breaks :P
And yes, I'd say that's a HW question.
 
VTC?
I assume that vote is yours?
 
Yes, it is
 
10:49 PM
I joined you.
The exercise is really quite simple.
You just change the variables in the derivatives to a non-affine parameter, look at what you get for $\alpha$ and then invert it.
 
I gathered as much from your hint
 
Chain rule!
Part (b) of the exercise is trivial because you find that $\alpha$ is proportional to $\mathrm{d}^2t'/\mathrm{d}t^2$, so for $\alpha$ to vanish the parameters have to be linearly related.
 
11:53 PM
@0celo7 I'm alive!
sorry my computer got all fucked up and it took a while to replace it; I was using a crappy replacement until then that could barely handle anything
anything interesting happen?
 

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