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12:00 AM
yeah, i was looking for references. i have to say that i don't know.
i see you previously asked something about the topic on physics SE, though
 
yeah.. but want as much opinions on this topic.. I have links to some of the scientific papers if you want to look over them (although I barely get the gist of the paper)...
 
I don't think I have the time right now to start going through heavy-duty papers. If I do form an opinion on the matter later, I'll answer your SE question. Don't hold your breath, though
 
thanks..
 
12:25 AM
I have been a fan of nanotech so I wanted to start a stack exchange website on it... It also includes nanoscience so some of you may be able to answer and ask questions too:
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Nanoscience and Nanotechnology

Proposed Q&A site for students, professors, and researchers to ask questions about nano-science and nanotechnology

Currently in definition.

 
12:44 AM
@TAbraham I think Rod Vance's answer to your question is spot on - when you really do quantum mechanics, statements like "photons follow a path" become meaningless - if you do not observe a particular path (which you can't), there is no path taken at all. "Wave-particle duality" is a historical concept - today, we just understand quantum objects as having a state in a Hilbert space, being neither "particle" nor "wave".
 
@ACuriousMind so, you are saying that the photon doesn't take any path...
 
@TAbraham Yes
 
@ACuriousMind so, what was all the articles on this topic about?
It's not making sense..
 
I think they indeed do not make sense, because they are written by biologists who are basically just retracing the confusing steps that led to the inception of quantum physics - they cling to classical pictures whereever they can. If you read stuff from the "old quantum theory" - what Bohr and Sommerfeld did, for example, it is just as weird and confusing (and, mostly, wrong) from today's viewpoint.
 
no..physicists are owking on it too!
gota go.. thanks!
 
12:53 AM
@TAbraham Then I think Mark Mitchinson's answer is what you are talking about - the exact physics of coherence in complicated environments like plants is not fully understood, and an area of open research - and it could be that decoherence is what is described as "taking a definite path" in the sources you are talking about.
 
 
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3:16 AM
@ACuriousMind well.. I didn't really understand that... for example, what does the superoperator mean in physics?
 
4:02 AM
@Cheeku Depends on the field
As far as programming goes, if you're eligible (branch+CPI) they hold a test followed by interviews for selected students
Usually something similar for the others
there's a concept of pre placement presentations as well
 
4:29 AM
First time I answered a question about a post I made:
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Q: Question re Diagram for Stress Tensor

gjhI have a couple of questions related to the diagram in the answer by Kyle Kanos to this question, Why is stress a tensor quantity?. Q1. If the box shown is of finite size why are there not three force components on each of the six faces? Q2. What happens to the stress tensor when the box shrink...

 
5:18 AM
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Q: Not a duplicate as marked

jdlugoszThe post is imagary time a fifth dimension may indeed have been asked before, but the referenced post is not it. That earlier one concerns Hawking's cup to avoid the point in the cone. This one involves the expression of the metric in Minkowsky spacetime. I can't interact with the banner where t...

 
 
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7:37 AM
Yay No one here :D
 
 
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1:33 PM
@DavidZ: Regarding down votes lasting forever:
If down voted posts would remind me they've been updated the way favorited posts do, I'd agree with you that downvoting with the expectation of changing later would make sense. However, without that I'd have to go through my activity history regularly, looking for down voted posts to re-read. Not gunna happen.
 
 
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2:48 PM
Can we just delete this question or something?
 
@Danu In that case, it'd be good to flag the answer...
 
@Danu Pretty sure questions with answers cannot be deleted
 
and of course, downvote it!
 
The answer?
 
Oh, the answer
Your link is to the question
Sorry
 
2:59 PM
@KyleKanos No, no, I meant the question. I thought questions with only downvoted answers could be deleted... but I might be wrong.
 
not sure about that...
I guess a number of flags might notify the moderator (who'll delete it)...
@KyleKanos If the answers have zero votes, then the author can delete the question (I've done that once! :P)
 
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A: How does deleting work? What can cause a post to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? What are the criteria for deletion?

jjnguyHow can a post be deleted? By a user: You can typically delete your own posts at will; for exceptions, see "When can't I delete my own post?" below. To delete a post, just use the "delete" link below it. Moderators can delete any post instantly. Users with reputation >= 10k (more precisely, th...

That answer suggests that if the answer is accepted the question itself cannot be deleted
But I think giving the answer away like that does violate our homework policy
 
It seems that Mods could delete accepted posts, but I'm gonna search around for that too
Here we go
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Q: 20k users can vote to delete negatively voted accepted answers

Jon Seigel20k users can vote to delete answers with a score of -1 or lower (at any time, I believe), but the voting lacks a check to see if the answer is an accepted answer. IIRC, accepted answers have to be unaccepted before being deleted, even by mods, so such a delete vote should be disallowed completel...

I <3 Meta
 
@KyleKanos Why are you so skeptical about that? They're mods! I'm sure they can delete it! :D
 
3:06 PM
Also, @Danu: I expect more from you now:
 
@KyleKanos You're #1? I'll be damned!
 
I've been #1 since the start of WinterBash
I'm Top 20 network wide too
 
@KyleKanos I was under 20 two years back! Looks like you're all taking advantage of me being calm...
 
I'm not taking advantage of anything
 
Jim
w00t #95! Top 100! Take that everyone below me!
 
3:11 PM
@KyleKanos (That was the cheapest joke I've ever said...) -_-
 
@KyleKanos lol. I'm not as hardcore about it as you, no worries ;) But I did have some fun today with doing random stuff
 
Did you get the TimeLord for editing all those posts?
 
... :P
I feel like a bad person
 
3:29 PM
Don't
I think I've got 2/5 for the Lumbergh one
 
The "Praying Mantis" hat makes me laugh...
The answer says:
 
Haha
 
> Praying Mantis is earned by obtaining the Chameleon hat, putting it on, and turning it upside down.
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut ...but it doesn't exist! :D I was wearing my Chameleon hat upside down for a while... lol
 
3:35 PM
@KyleKanos 4/5 now for me
 
Well, I've got 2 more answers that need upvotes
Then I'd be at 4/5
 
... I don't think they need upvotes
I think I'm gonna be able to pull off the golden review badge in time :) 920 now
 
4:20 PM
@KyleKanos Hmm... I guess they do need upvotes. :\
 
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Q: How far into space does one have to travel to see the entire face of earth?

samthebrandVirgin Galactic will take passengers aboard SpaceShipTwo as high as 65 miles above the surface of the earth. But from this altitude, passengers will only be able to see a certain segment of the curvature of the earth through windows as large as 17 inches in diameter. How much further into space ...

Off-topic? It seems to be just a matter of elementary geometry. Besides it is not well-posed.
 
Jim
4:44 PM
It's homework-like
 
Jim
5:06 PM
..... I just got the solstice hat
Shouldn't I get the time lord hat for that too?
@KyleKanos You have it too! We're both time travellers!
Unless I've stroked off again. What day is it?
 
@DanielSank you may find this to be of interest
 
What do you guys think about this?
I'm kinda... weirded out by it
Also, I hope someone can give me some clarity on the status of the BICEP2 'discovery'
 
5:23 PM
@Danu i think he was doing this already on one or two questions . ya it is kinda weird , but he is just giving his final understanding as an answer(maybe) O.o
 
Jim
@Danu I heard that they digitized data from a figure in a paper that used the Planck data and used that to do their work
Not sure how accurate that is though
 
@Qmechanic I don't think it's a good question; it's one of those "please do this calculation for me" kind of questions. It might be closable as homework-like. But I don't think it's off topic in the sense of not being about physics.
It is geometry, yes, but it's geometry applied to a physical scenario. It falls in roughly the same category as most questions about loop quantum gravity, IMO.
 
Jim
@DavidZ I posted a meta question, then found the answer a little later and am wondering if you could tag it with status-by-design for me?
 
Sure, which question?
OK done, thanks
 
Jim
Thanks :)
 
5:29 PM
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Q: I'm a time traveller! You are too!

JimI've just earned the Solstice hat! Huzzah! And I see that several others have earned it as well. Now as far as I know from reading its requirement, that hat is earned by posting a comment on 12/21. Today is 12/20 in UTC time. What's up with this? Is it a bug? Have I discovered time travel? Shoul...

 
For that sort of thing it's fine to ask in chat, but you could also make that request by casting a flag if you prefer
(just for future reference)
 
Jim
Sure thing]
 
@DavidZ : Clarification: By OT I meant any of the reasons given in the pop-up menu when voting to close. Not that the topic is OT by itself.
 
@Jim I've heard this too... I think there are some subtleties :P
 
Jim
@Danu I answered it too
 
5:39 PM
@DavidZ lol
 
@Danu strange but true. This is what I see as a difference in level, not in scope.
 
@DavidZ I must say that I disagree
 
Jim
@Danu probably a grad student did it. I can't imagine them making so much hype over a paper if one of the lead authors knew they just digitized their data from a figure in some other paper
 
@Jim Although it sounds incredibly embarrassing, I don't think any crucial things relied on it
 
@Danu well, I'm basically saying they're both applied geometry. Is that what you disagree with?
 
5:51 PM
@DavidZ I think it's an overgeneralization, plus I'm not sure, but how do you know, really, what LQG is about?
^too many comma's
@DavidZ And I don't see how you are going to exclude GR from that same category. Do you view GR as applied geometry as well? That'd be an extremely unconventional point of view
 
Yeah, at its core, much of GR is applied geometry, as far as I'm concerned.
 
@Danu I'd wager that most answer-based hats require an upvote
 
Jim
@Danu I'm looking over your question. I want it to stay up right where it is, but I'm concerned that you're asking for an in-depth discussion. That's not a Q&A format. I didn't think discussion posts were generally allowed. But like I said, I'd keep it up if it were up to me
 
@DavidZ With that point of view physics is just applied mathematics.
 
Jim
Where's A Curious Mind with his mandatory XKCD comic?
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5:54 PM
@Jim Ah, discussion, explanation, I didn't consider the precise wording of that question
 
@Danu In the sense of mathematics applied to physical situations, yes, it mostly is.
 
@DavidZ Then there is no basis to pick out certain questions anymore, so your point becomes moot.
 
Wait, I don't follow what you're saying at that last step
 
If all of physics is applied mathematics, then there is no pointing out that certain questions are applied geometry
Anyhow, it's not important ;)
 
I don't see how the fact that all of physics is applied mathematics means that it's useless to point out that a question is applied geometry
 
Jim
5:56 PM
Not all physics is applied mathematics.... cosmology is applied creative writing :P
 
lol
Yeah, I agree it's fair to say not literally all of physics is applied mathematics. Physical intuition enters in some capacity. But the foundation of physics is mathematics applied to physical situations.
 
Ah, never mind it. I don't feel strongly about the point I just made, so I'd rather let it slide
than have a prolonged discussion
(which may cause me to come across as hostile, which I don't intend to be)
 
Sure, it's not like that discussion was really going to affect anything anyway.
I didn't sense any hostility FWIW
 
Good :)
 
I guess I was just in the mood for frivolous discussions :-P I don't really have enough time to do anything meaningful for work, at the moment
 
5:59 PM
Mmm. I'm always the one for pointless discussions
@Jim I changed the word to 'exposition'
 
Jim
doesn't exposition imply the addition of the author's interpretation? Or am I thinking of essay?
 
@DavidZ I started the discussion because I find it careless to just dismiss an entire field, of which you presumably don't know all that much, as X
@Jim Exposition is a word that applies quite well to textbooks.
 
Jim
Cool
 
Mostly facts, but not completely free of opinions
I'm gonna be going to a club tonight... for the first time in MONTHS :D
 
@Danu I have studied loop quantum gravity quite a bit, at an introductory level. In case that's what's bothering you.
 
Jim
6:02 PM
A club? By god, you're young
 
@DavidZ Okay, that's more than I expected. I thought you were mostly into particles
@Jim Lol. What age would you have put me at?
 
Jim
Gotta be honest, I've already looked at your profile
 
Currently it says I'm 94 ;)
 
Jim
So, 23?
 
...had to get that chameleon hat
@Jim 21
 
Jim
6:04 PM
That was going to be my second guess
 
@Danu : OP deleted the post, so I cleared the flag.
 
@Danu I do particle physics now, but for the first year and a half of grad school I was considering working in LQG. Penn State is one of the top schools for it.
 
Can someone give me a downvote, pretty please?
 
Jim
Have you earned it?
 
@DavidZ Ah, interesting. I'm fascinated by the string vs. anti-string dichotomy
@Jim I've been a bad boy!
 
Jim
6:05 PM
This is getting a bit weird
 
@Jim come on daddy
 
@Danu : Is this to get some secret hat or something?
 
Jim
Yes
 
@Qmechanic shhh... :P
I've been doing all kinds of ridiculous things
 
Jim
@Danu I'm not your daddy, guy
 
6:06 PM
I honestly feel like they wanted us to sabotage the site in our attempts to get hats!
 
Jim
.... I'm not your guy, buddy
 
@Jim I'm not your buddy, mate
 
@Danu me too, kind of. Both theories are individually interesting but sometimes it gets tiring when they snipe at each other.
 
Jim
I'm not your mate, friend
 
@DavidZ I just find it laughable mostly: Neither side understands the other, so they just hate each other. It's like politics!
@Jim I'm not your friend, random internet person
 
Jim
6:08 PM
@Danu Ouch, that one hurt
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I'm not random
 
YOU BROKE THE CHAIN
 
@Danu heh, yeah... or at least the most outspoken voices on each side hate each other
 
@DavidZ I'm at LMU, which I think can be considered as a pretty strong 'string-stronghold'. Internally, there are still MAJOR disagreements (Mukhanov @ string theory colloquia is GOLDEN)
 
Jim
@DavidZ Exactly, thank you. I'm 4.1, not 4. Therefore, not random
 
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A: Standard "loopholes" which are no longer funny

Kyle KanosFake random numbers Pretty much any underhanded challenge involving random numbers will have someone post this one: int getRandomNumber() { return 4; //chosen by fair dice roll. //guaranteed to be random. } It was funny when Randall Munroe did it 7 years ago, not anymore. ...

 
6:11 PM
@DavidZ lol
@KyleKanos Nice way to steal some internet points ;)
 
This isn't code golf; XKCD is always funny
 
XKCD is funny, but when everyone's doing it, it's just annoying
So I wrote that
 
Jim
@KyleKanos This is one of those times when "If I ain't seen it, it's new to me" applies
 
@DavidZ ...but I'm really curious to learn about strings. I will at least give it a shot... I'm slowly turning into a (bad) mathematician anyhow
 
@Jim Yeah, I know that can happen. But -1 + comment to that post always works ;)
Well, for PPCG anyways
 
6:15 PM
@Danu yeah it has a lot of connections to other fields, so it's useful for that if nothing else.
 
Does anyone know whether it was actually conventional to call what we now call (quantum) fields "wave fields" back in the days (i'm talking 1930's)?
 
Jim
sounds like a question for HSM.SE
 
I know, but it's too easy/short
 
Jim
okay
 
@DavidZ Is it normal taht I can pin messages in this chat?
 
6:24 PM
@Danu yep, you have chat mod powers on all of SE chat
 
sweet
 
Here comes Danu abusing his powers ;)
 
I WILL PURGE THE CHAT OF MY ENEMIES
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so, who wants to fight?!
 
Jim
@KyleKanos Not if we all gang up and abuse him first
What? who said that? I didn't suggest anything
 
We could just ignore HSM and hope it goes away ;) :D JK, JK!
 
6:36 PM
@Jim Getting kinky again, eh?
 
Jim
@Danu Well now it is
 
Steamy in the h-bar
 
Jim
Yes, it's like we multiplied by 2 pi; we've turned it into the naked h
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Gah...just one meager upvoted needed
 
@KyleKanos I'll rub your back... if you rub mine ;) (just kidding)
@Jim Hah.
 
6:44 PM
@Danu Just once ;) What do you need done?
 
Hah, corruption! Ehrr... I don't know. I guess I need 2 more upvotes for my 5 answer reward thingy? Find one! xD
...aaaaand I can't vote anymore for the day. #fail
 
Haha
That's a Hat though
 
...thats why ;)
Huh
It did register an upvote
did you get it?
 
Also that vote put me over 13k
 
Congrats
I want 10 soooo badly
so much effort
 
6:47 PM
Yeah, answering a lot of questions
That's a bit of work
 
Oh, I think I need two more answer to get an upvote for that damn hat
I was trying to get some questions out of the unanswered queue some time ago, I like doing that
 
Note that I've got about double the answers & rep than you, so you're on the right track, it seems
 
@KyleKanos Whatcha mean?
 
Subtle hint that you're following in my footsteps ;)
 
@KyleKanos Is that... a good thing? ;)
 
6:53 PM
Of course
 
Hah, my icon kinda looks like a distorted human face now
With a beak of sorts
 
I've been thinking about changing mine
Not sure to what though
 
I only changed mine because someone stole my icon. I like this one better now though. And it'll be quite hard to beat your old one
19 hats now, btw :)
 
26 for me
 
It'll be easy to rack up a few more with some planning
 
6:56 PM
And the leaderboard site says 15 for you
The remaining 4 must've come from HSM
 
I just need a downvote
@KyleKanos Ah, that could be true!
 
If you wanted to count separate ones, I've got like 30 because of the number of accounts I've got with the Chameleon hat
 
site-wide is all that matters! :P
@KyleKanos hah. Fair enough. But I think counting all different ones, across all of SE, is the only reasonable thing
no copies
 
Right
But that means there will be, at worst, an 8-way tie for #1
I'd like to post a real easy question that gets 5+ answers in a few minutes
Get that 30 min or less hat
There
 
That one is really hard to get
Nice Party in the back mode engaged
 
7:05 PM
@Danu Probably here
On SO, it'd probably be pretty easy
 
Thats a general annoyance for me... The programming-related SE's are too easy
Even on math.se, it's so much easier to get a lot of rep and stuff
 
Yeah, Physics takes some work to get rep
But then again, physics takes work to understand
 
Also, am I right in saying that it's impossible to get Kofia (the Kwanza hat) on any SE where you're already registered? :\
As in, where you're already active
 
Hmm, I'm not sure
 
I'm pretty close to the Generalist badge :D
 
7:11 PM
I got that one a few weeks ago. Complete surprise
 
Jim
I got that one a few months ago. No surprise
 
I wonder if I'll ever get Sportsmanship ;)
 
I got that one
 
Jim
Oooh, I got that too. It was weird. I was thinking to myself "Surely I've upvoted 100 competing answers by now", but the Data Explorer doesn't have a reliable way of tracking it.
 
Yeah, Data Explorer can only tell you if there are other answers on questions you've answered. You have to manually check them
 
Jim
7:16 PM
So I went through and counted. Right as I was counting the 65th one, I saw a new answer that I liked and upvoted it. Got the badge rigth then
First thought: Why could I not have checked that thread first and saved myself all this time!?
 
Heh, that's neat
 
 
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user54412
9:12 PM
@Danu I don't follow it closely enough anymore (neither dust nor CMB polarization are particularly interesting to me), so I can't give a good answer. But my understanding is that the fundamental problem is one of extrapolation.
 
user54412
Planck and Bicep measure different frequencies, and Bicep tried to get at the dust polarization signal in their band using Planck's dust measurement in Planck bands.
 
user54412
But while one would hope that the amount of dust is independent of which band you are using, the amount of polarization due to that dust is generally frequency dependent, and in a complicated way we don't fully understand
 
10:46 PM
@Jim Travelling, going home for Christmas. I'll have to work on my omnipresence.
 
10:57 PM
In an inertial $\mathcal {R}$ repository. One considers a charge in linear acceleration and uniform with respect to $\mathcal{R}$. According to the classical theory of electrodynamics, such a charge rayon ( I hope it's the correct work in english) and therefore loses energy. If we place now in the repository of the accelerated charge, the charge does not radiate, and the field is static. I think it's a contradiction, no?
 

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