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3:00 AM
@ChrisWhite Sorry, I am not blaming you. I have no problem with the number of retagging everyday, and it indeed show interesting questions in front page. But you two should avoid posting at the same time.
 
3:11 AM
@DavidZaslavsky wow, three people down votes that question after retagging (I havent), people here seems not like that question.
 
4:07 AM
@hwlau wait, you mean it went from +2 to -1?
The one about astrophotography that you linked?
That only shows one downvote and no upvotes
 
4:31 AM
Yes, it did show +2. I leave for four hours and then open a new one. In comparison, the only difference are the the vote go from +2 to -1, an new comment and close message. Probably someone retract their votes later???
The astro data dump also show that the score is 2. It seems like a bug
<row Id="1260" PostTypeId="1" AcceptedAnswerId="1270" CreationDate="2011-09-20T09:18:08.110" Score="2" ViewCount="683" Body="&lt;p&gt;I'm interested in purchasing
 
@hwlau Yeah, that is weird
I thought I was just imagining the +2 that was there before
Maybe when the question was migrated, the score field was just copied over directly, but then when it got the automatic downvote from being closed, the system recalculated the votes, and since the two people who had upvoted it on astro.SE don't have accounts on Physics (I'm guessing), it realized those votes didn't actually exist
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Q: Parallel universe and Infinite monkey theorem

InquisitiveIs the Infinite monkey theorem helpful for determining the existence of the very same our universe somewhere else?

There's one that can use actual close votes, if people think it should be closed (it already has flags)
 
5:00 AM
This is a trivial query so I didn't want to ask it on the main site : Which one of these represents the Atomic mass and which one the Nuclear mass : m(X^A_Z) or m(X^A) , is there a reason for this ?
 
@DavidZaslavsky What it asks is more like a philosophy question. Will they accept this migration?
 
I dunno, I can check
But first we need to decide whether it's on topic here
 
I think no, but lets see the other people rsponse
@The-Ever-Kid Usually Z means proton number, and A means mass
 
@The-Ever-Kid The atomic mass number is the same as nuclear mass number (confusingly, neither of them is the actual mass)
 
5:20 AM
@DavidZaslavsky actually i had two questions as an assignment one over the other the first one had data with the m(X^a_z) notation the other had data with m(x^a) notation . I got both of them wrong . Some trials later i found that m(X^a) was giving me the Atoms mass in amu and the m(X^a_z) was giving me the nucleus' mass in amu so all i wanted to know was which notation is for which . as the atomic mass in amu includes the electrons so .....
 
The numbers that are written as superscripts and subscripts are always integers, at least as far as I've ever seen
If you're talking about non-integers, then this might be something to ask on the chemistry site. I suspect that it would be on topic there, but @Manishearth could tell you for sure.
although I guess maybe atomic physicists would use those numbers...
 
wait a minute......I probably didn't word my question properly......lemme send you a pic.......
 
That should help
 
@DavidZaslavsky imgur.com/IR4nB
My question probably is why is either notation used ?
 
They should be the same
 
5:32 AM
how'd you do that ?
 
Just paste the URL to the image
 
Oh :)
Ok so why is either notation different ?
 
They're not
 
but the answers i get are wrong if i consider them the same....
 
They just omitted the bottom number in the first question because somebody thought it looked better, or something... who knows.
I think perhaps you're doing something else wrong
For one thing, Wikipedia says 2.014102 is the mass of a deuterium atom
not just the nucleus
 
5:36 AM
so m(<whatever>) is the mass of the atom as a whole ?
 
In this case, apparently so.
 
Thanks a Ton !!!
 
And I think that is generally the case, unless you're told that they're talking about just a nucleus
 
no wonder i didn't have to subtract the electrons from the second question , they were isoelectronic to begin with.........
Anyway thanks for linking wikipedia.. #lifesaver
 
That's always one of the first places I check when I have a notation question or something about a specific numerical value
 
 
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6:43 AM
Interesting problem from Reddit: reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/15lxas/…
 
 
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7:53 AM
@DavidZaslavsky /cc @The-Ever-Kid en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stoichiometric_compound
Those masses are effectively the masses of the nuclei. It's got to do with
Binding energy is the mechanical energy required to disassemble a whole into separate parts. A bound system typically has a lower potential energy than its constituent parts; this is what keeps the system together—often this means that energy is released upon the creation of a bound state. The definition above corresponds to a positive binding energy (this is often causing confusion, e.g. a prominent term in chemistry is the 'free energy of binding', which is the difference of bound and unbound state and thus negative). General idea In general, binding energy represents the mechanical...
electron masses are too tiny to make that big a diff
Yeah, the notation trips me up as well. You have chemistry notation, nuclear physics notation, and particle physics notation, which are all slightly different.
I forgot which is which
 
8:19 AM
@Manishearth Hi Manish. The comments would be lengthy-ish....
So, I came right away. Ping me when you arrive :-)
 
here
Again, you can just ask your question here--you don't have to wait for me
 
Ok, I forgot that...
Well, did you see the image..?
regarding the flagging part
 
yeah
that doesn't seem right
 
why..?
 
See, here are the facts from my side:
 
8:22 AM
Being a mod, I think you could see my profile for "helpful flags"
Ok, continue:
 
I can see everyone's helpful/declined counts on Chem and Physics
I can see my own declined count on MSO
 
In brackets..? (that reddish thing)
 
yeah
I cannot see the declined count on SO
 
Then, I think it is only for trusted users (10 k.) and mods
 
no
I could see my declined count long before
 
8:24 AM
Then, Why can't I see it anywhere?
 
(btw, trusted user=20k)
@CrazyBuddy dunno. I can't see it on SO
 
sry... I really meant high rep., users
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A: Plagiarism should be addressed specifically in the FAQ

Manishearth Blame Pekka for this answer, he put me up to it ;-) . Enough cats, Pekka? Yes, we need something linkable. The FAQ is an ideal place for this, but there are lots of other similar things that can go there as well. We don't want to bloat the faq, too few people read it already. Still, this par...

Good show with the cats... Awesome
 
:P
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Jun 5 at 18:26, by Pekka
I have a 250 rep bounty to give away.
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Jun 5 at 18:26, by Pekka
For the craziest answer. Maybe something with cat pictures.
 
So, you really prefer writing long stories...
 
yeah, at times
investing more effort in one post is more fun that investing little or no effort in many
leads to good posts, instead of LQ crap
 
8:27 AM
I always see your posts rushing with headers ##" "##
 
I like headers
 
I pinged you yesterday 'coz I had a doubt regarding the -1'd user
About that bumping and poking unanswered questions
I can't find an exact duplicate for that. So, I went on and posted
 
@CrazyBuddy ?
Where did you post?
 
MSO... - Oh, I didn't mention it - sorry :-)
 
Ah yeah
when an answer is deleted, the deletion users bump still remains
 
8:32 AM
So, the community modified it... - explained by Anna lear
 
@CrazyBuddy Yeah
I spam-flagged that one, which means that Community deletes it (instead of me)
Oh sorry
I didn't do that
I destroy ed the user
Which means all of his posts are deleted
 
Oh, the guy with WOW...
 
automatically
yeah. If you see him spam flag it
 
I've done spam-flagging twice I think so...
But, mostly they're rare
 
@CrazyBuddy 4 times
Not counting comment flags
 
8:35 AM
You're damn-fast man :-)
My dial sucks up always
Once the retagging of imports is over, what;d happen then?
Are there many other posts that require revision..? (after that)
 
Hmm, it looks like the declined count is only visible to mods
sorry 'bout that
 
Well, Ok - You're lucky that I haven't gone NUTS still :-) (by thinking of it)
 
:P
It was Physics Meta where I saw it
 
Well, what do ya think about the new feed "Photons and relativity"..?
I think there are more: like the "Twin paradox - classical solution"...
I can't find a clue. So, I didn't VTC it...
@Manishearth BTW, Hey don't go looking for it...
You're an active user for 10 months only. Then, How did you get into MSO very easily?
 
@CrazyBuddy Well, I like metas a lot. Formulating policies/etc is fun. I started early off on the Physics meta. dmckee introduced me to MSO later. MSO is a really fun and informal place, so I liked it there. And started participating..
 
8:47 AM
@Manishearth dmckee introduced me either...
But, I didn't think of it as a great deal....
But now, looks like MSO is amazing. New guys to speak with, New policies and etc.
 
exactly
 
Now, another topic I'd like to say:
When I was a new comer to SR and GR, I randomly poke into some questions here
I came across David's answer here:
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A: Tachyon and Photons

David ZaslavskyAs a matter of fact, Einstein's theory of relativity is what predicts the possibility of tachyons (faster-than-light particles) - or rather, relativity is what makes tachyons special. Without relativity, particles moving faster than light would just be really fast particles. Although it's often ...

Even I mistook SR. I can't really hold myself from upvoting this one...
 
9:03 AM
@CrazyBuddy
 
I'm here..
 
Why do people down vote this post? — Inquisitive 4 mins ago
If you voted down, could you explain? I'm a bit busy right now (and I didn't down vote :P)
@CrazyBuddy yeah, I wanted to comment-quote, so that needs another line
Btw you don't have to explain. If you did, it would be better in this case :)
 
Er... I didn't do it - BTW, I was busy with the user jolm...
One more thing - I have a thought that it is good
But, there are more or less the exact question already been asked here....
 
I know, I couldn't find it
 
I'll better start looking for that...
 
9:08 AM
Gtg, cya :)
 
9:26 AM
@Manishearth IIRC, Someone once told me that Voting is meant to be private which makes me laugh now :-)
forgot to remind it before..!
 
@CrazyBuddy It is meant to be private, but it's ok to urge others to explain a -1. Forcing it is a bad thing. Basically (regardless of the downvote), I wanted a comment on that post explaining what's wrong.
Plus I knew that you wouldn't take offence if I asked you to explain it :)
gtg again'
 
@Manishearth Okay,... Thank you - Completely agreed :-)
I'll ping ya later (when I require something)
 
@CrazyBuddy And when you do, just post what you require and ping me. No need to wait for me to reply before posting your question/etc :)
 
I won't forget this (atleast)
 
 
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10:37 AM
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Q: Existence of time in some other universe

InquisitiveIs it necessary that time should exist in another universe if it(universe) is there? How do we perceive timelessness?

What do you guys think?
 
 
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3:21 PM
@Manishearth Err... Sorry for that late post... I didn't notice it.
But Hey, I close-voted it first :-)
 
4:21 PM
@Manishearth I've slightly edited your megalong answer and created a pdf version of it.
 
 
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7:24 PM
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Q: Reposting an old post

InquisitiveI have found few old posts in P SE in which asked questions are not clear. So no one has answered it or it has ambiguous answers in it. Is it possible for someone else other than the author to modify the contents of the post and re post it, so it can be useful to others. The reason I am asking th...

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Q: Voting to change correct answer

KitchiI was going through some old questions, where the accepted answers aren't usually the most thorough/best ones (in my opinion), which leads me to my suggestion - Would it be possible for other users to vote to change the "correct" answer? I can't seem to find the couple of questions I was lookin...

 
 
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9:51 PM
This is strange, the last few days I have obtained 3 down votes on two of my (generally upvoted) answers and I am 100% sure that there is nothing wrong with the physics I have written in neither of these two answers ... :-/ On the main site votes should review the physics of the post and not the sympathy (or antipathy) for the poster or something like that ...
 
@Dilaton hmm, could be anything. Though revenge downvoting is sometimes an issue
Though the folks who do that probably don't come to chat, no point in posting here :P
 
10:10 PM
@Manishearth Hi ;-)
 
hey :)
 
Yeah, I just hope this is not a revenge downvoter who has learned something from what has happend to Chris Gerig and others and is now more careful ... I it sums up to 10 downvotes on posts where I am 100% sure that there is nothing wrong with the physics, I'll probably bring it up in meta. Anyway, I am not sure if this would help if he/they are careful enough.
 
one sec
@Dilaton Letting me know has the same effect as bringing it up on meta, with less noise :)
 
@Manishearth yeah that's right ...
 
@Dilaton though if you list the posts, some people may explain the downvotes
It's happened before
 
10:23 PM
yeah thanks that is a good idea. If it continues, I will list the posts that got downvoted to see if I can gather some explanations. Now I'm gonna watch a nice Lenny Susskind Lecture to forget about these stupid downvotes :-)
Bye
 
@Dilaton not really a good idea, I don't really like such posts on meta. But it may help, so that's there :)
@Dilaton if the downvote thing continues, let me know. Right now, it's too less for me to be able to look into it.
 
user54412
10:36 PM
@Manishearth Hi there. I don't suppose there's any way to remove the restriction on changing votes.
 
user54412
I accidentally downvoted this one: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/47414/…
 
user54412
and I didn't realize until the vote was locked in
 
user54412
(clearly no one who develops smart phones has fingers as large and clumsy as mine)
 
@ChrisWhite edit and improve it. Actually I'll do that
@ChrisWhite you can change your vote now
 
user54412
@Manishearth ok thanks!
 
10:41 PM
I'm not too fond of the q though
Feel like downvoting it myself :P
 
user54412
it's borderline
 
yeah
 
user54412
i think it touches on some interesting ideas, but only i na roundabout way
 
think it should be closed?
 
user54412
not closed - i mean, it's certainly valid to ask how far away can I go before I don't feel a force anymore
 
user54412
10:43 PM
but i'm generally pretty conservative when it comes to voting to close
 
@ChrisWhite yeah, same here. Just curious if you thought so
 

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