The Loop

7:39 AM

The amusing part is that ryan do not know that from the get go the app is mainly for wordpress.com users and by pure chance it works also for wordpress.org sites

that's not how they see it. it is intended for dot org, but they have found that life is easier technically when things go through dot com servers and if so Automattic is naturally all over it.

btw there is a fun thing about apple store being very not GPL-compatible, yet the app is in it juuust fine :)

8:11 AM

Holy fucking horse shit

@toscho I think that is pakistan

Ahmedabad

Ahmedabad (/ˈɑːmᵻdəbɑːd/; also known as Amdavad Gujarati pronunciation: [ˈəmdɑːvɑːd]) is the largest city and former capital of Gujarat. It is the administrative headquarters of the Ahmedabad district and the seat of the Gujarat High Court. With a population of more than 6.3 million and an extended population of 7.2 million, it is the sixth largest city and seventh largest metropolitan area of India. Ahmedabad is located on the banks of the Sabarmati River, 30 km (19 mi) from the state capital Gandhinagar. Ahmedabad has emerged as an important economic and industrial hub in India. It is the second...

stand corrected

I've looked this up before I wrote my answer. :)

:)

8:24 AM

Besides that, it really doesn't matter. There is no place in the world where a developer or any other person should work for so little money.

I love the fact that they said "however we can offer more for right candidates" like it would make a difference

I don't like public shaming. But misogynistic exploiters are an exception.

@toscho ehm are you sure about the sum? quick conversion goves me 20K rupees = $300

those are fights I just don't fight. wordpress core meeting times are almost always discriminating asians

this is meh globally, but isn't really that low for some countries

8:34 AM

@Rarst I took the minimum salary, 10k.

for scale average paycheck in Ukraine is $160 right now, after last currency crash

wow :(

you are first-world knee-jerking here on money I think

minimum wage here right now is about 1250$

Millions of flys can't be wrong?

8:36 AM

I am not saying about anything right or wrong, I am saying you are aggressively judging the sum which might be just fine at the location

or might not. the point is that we don't know, since we aren't from there.

Money aside the problem is he only wants to employ males for the job...

Income in India

India's per capita income (nominal) was $1,498 in 2013, ranked at 120th out of 164 countries by the World Bank, while its per capita income on purchasing power parity (PPP) basis was US$5,350, and ranked 106th. Other estimates for per capita Gross National Income and Gross Domestic Product vary by source. For example, India's average GDP per capita on PPP basis in 2009, according to The Economist, was US$5,138, with significant variation among its states and union territories. Goa had the highest per capita PPP GDP at US$4903, while Bihar the lowest with per capita PPP GDP of US$682 as of 2015...

yeah, that's more clear meh part. don't know if it's religious or something in India.

maybe they don't have place for separate toilets for woman, or work a lot with north carolina

:)

@MarkKaplun our minimum is something like $55 I think at the moment

8:40 AM

per month?

really sucks

yes, per month :)

insane

that's crazy

welcome to outside of first world bubble :)

8:41 AM

no, that's inside of a bubble

my favorite work horror story for western people is how I did 3D modeling in aircraft industry for $100 a month

with such a low income, you are de facto immobilized. that isn't right.

What's the minimum wage where you are per month @toscho?

not sure. the minimum per hour is 8.50 Euro

That for everyone or just for 25yrs+? In the UK we have like 4/5 different wages depending on the age

8:44 AM

for everyone

If you have less than 1054 Euro netto per month, you get money from government institutions. Albeit under degrading conditions.

In this country if your over the age of 25 you get and extra 50p per hour - which personally I think is awful. I mean who is to say that a 26year old works harder than a 22 year old

the point is probably to let younger people easier time getting a job

otherwise there is no incentive to employ them

might suck to turn 25 OTOH

socialist rules are full with stupid hard coded values that you are always too scared to change once they were set

Stephen Harris

9:13 AM

@CoderSte If you were cynical you might conclude that it is to help the government's statistics: "X% of school leavers find employment"

9:34 AM

You you could say that but if two people went for a job one aged 22yr old and another aged 26yrs then if they have the same skill set the employer will pick the 22yr old as it's much cheaper for the business over the year

10:09 AM

@CoderSte I think that that is exactly what @StephenHarris said ;)

3:51 PM

@toscho Do you know some of my friends (graduated engineers) started job with $100 usd a month?

And in our household we (3 people) manage to live a life (including rent and all) with around $500 a month :)

Howdy_McGee

4:04 PM

-.- I absolutely hate the 'move to chat' link being directly above the comment box. IDK how many times I've accidentally clicked that whenever I meant to click the comment box.

@Sisir How do you pay for things like computer hardware, flights or medical extras?

Savings mainly. Everyone tries to save a part of their income (no matter how tiny that is).

and off course China to rescue for computer hardware..

we don't have health insurance here. So, in case of bad health issues like cancer and stuff. Most people sell their houses, land etc or die -_-

and this is why so little money is not ok

it can't be help, because too many unemployed and too less jobs

things are changing but very slowly..

> 8vap provides the widest and most sophisticated job seeking, career management, recruitment and talent management capabilities globally.

8vap.com/about-us

4:13 PM

This is one of the big reason why I choose this career for better income and better life. Where the map isn't a barrier..

@toscho They are trying to maximize profit I think.

LoL, just noticed 5.5 days a week!

like 8 hours coding job wasn't enough!

exploiting their employees is the proper description in my opinion

4:34 PM

don't be so dramatic, I can imagin much worse jobs that they might be able to do for the same salary. Everything is relative ;)

probably the managers themselves earn less then you :)

the looking for male only part was awful tho

how common is it @Sisir? does it have anything to do with religion or they just expect woman to get pregnant and not be available?

(based on true story :( )

4:54 PM

not religion, probably the second one. Also a part of the population tend to think women are less efficient..

For other professions where job requires traveling, physical strength etc. I could understand but for programming job I can't think of any good reason why they would label it male only.

I wonder how do they even do business over the internet where you can never know if you chat with god or dog :)

another reason might be, they can force a man to work after hours. but they can not if women.

5:28 PM

..... "voiced their opinions via emoji reactions." OMFG. since when Japanese teenagers started to manage core development? Can anyone from the US explain the obsession? is it something cultural we don't get over here?

Howdy_McGee

First we were :( then emoji's made us :) now we're all :D but most people are :/