The Loop

12:00 AM

@MichaelEcklund Yes

@StephenHarris I've sold SEO as a service when I was consulting with a former partner. I leveraged my experience gained with my own affiliate marketing, contextual ad sites to form a partnership that offered SEO to small to medium businesses, the occasional bigger client too. F**king hated it. I love SEO, well conversion optimization actually, but not when doing it as a "j.o.b". There were so many downsides to it don't know where to begin.

Mr. Alien

5:17 AM

anyone online?

userabuser

depends

mebu83

6:58 AM

kinda

Stephen Harris

@userabuser Like "Why am I not on the front page of Google?"? :)

userabuser

7:45 AM

@StephenHarris on a good day you'd get that :)... on other days "why did my position slip from 8 to 9, omg I'm freaking out, I'm going to have a nervous breakdown, what have you bastards done don't you know my life depends on Google"

I still cringe thinking about that work...

mebu83

I am currently doing a monthly stats of our Google rankings, which are reported to upper management, imagine the fun I am having.

Especially if Google is updating their search algorithms (PANDA)

userabuser

Google Panda, Chimpanzee, Neanderthal... etc etc.

Rarst

8:12 AM

@mebu83 that sounds very fun :) (no, seriously, I like reporting or rather automation of it)

mebu83

8:24 AM

@Rarst I never thought about automating it, I could... maybe I should. Any pointers on where to start reading (Google Analytics, PPT)

Rarst

I hadn't done it with GA (well, done related parts to GA too, just not implementing data retrieval itself), but there are tons of API stuff for it :)

userabuser

8:43 AM

<div class="grid__item six-twelfths palm-one-whole"> ... real semantic

who wants to type that crap all day

Rarst

then wrap it into semantic classes :) people like to whine so much about notsemanticboo of frameworks, but are too lazy to do it semantic ways those very frameworks give them :)

also as I've read once: "Because div and span are so fucking semantic."

userabuser

no the whole framework is six-twelfths four-sixths bla bla bla... its very verbose

just strikes me as overly complex naming scheme

Rarst

that doesn't matter how verbose it is. you just do your semantic classes (content/sidebar/whatever) and import framework's grid into them as necessary

is this Pure?

ah, no, something else...

mebu83

(feeling silly for having googled 'verbose')

userabuser

which is what I am going... but I have to modify a lot of the theme due to the theme authors on-crack customizations...

no its "rosa"

Rarst

8:48 AM

well, WordPress, duh :)

userabuser

...yeah another guy sells a theme for $50 that doesn't work at mobile properly :)

Rarst

@userabuser I can't even google it. link?

userabuser

if they just stick to simple naming conventions wouldnt have to do all this crazy shit

@Rarst Pixelgrade <- theme shop

Rarst

ah, you mean rosa name of theme, I thought name of grid

userabuser

ah, Inuit CSS I think

.lap-and-up-seven-eighths

um

.soft-half--right , .push--right , .full-bleed

two hyphens, one hyphen, two.. very inconsistent.

now I know to stay away from that framework then

Rarst

8:54 AM

I don't think they even have stable version at the moment inuitcss.com

some major refactor or whatever

userabuser

been like that for a while I think, I remember people talking about Inuit here in chat

Rarst

someone was a fan. given it's pretty hipster that was probably kaiser

userabuser

Each to their own I say, although they just made CSS overly complex... maybe to feel better about not learning a real language I don't know...

@Rarst lol

Mr. Alien

9:23 AM

am trying to make a custom template, so on index.php all I have is the while loop of posts, now how should I load posts on other page with specific category?

I mean obv I don't need any codes, I just need an idea how to achieve that..

Rarst

9:49 AM

@Mr.Alien this would make more sense as question on main site :)

Mr. Alien

nah, will be too broad

All I have on index.php is

if (have_posts()) :
	while (have_posts()) :
		the_post();
	endwhile;
	the_content();
endif;

Rarst

ok. I am not following the category part then?

Mr. Alien

so it fetches and shows static page but when I switch to post page, I need different layout and fetch specific category only

Rarst

switch? what exactly are you setting and where? do you mean "front page displays" stuff?

Mr. Alien

I will go slow, first I am having index.php, header.php and footer.php only, am creating a template from scratch, now in the content wrapper am having the code I shared with you

now I wanted a static page, so I created a new page, went to settings -> reading, and selected the respective page to be static and all is well till here

now I want 3 pages with posts, each one with a specific category

thats all I need

Rarst

9:54 AM

I setill have trouble making sense of this, but I hadn't had my tea yet. :) also totally a question for main site, really.

Mr. Alien

i feel its too broad for the site, so I will fiddle it my way, thanks though :)

I have my own cms but that is single user and I don't have time to modify the code so going with wp

Rarst

please describe settings verbatim when you are talking about them. "selected this for that" is hard to understand. say it precisely, like "front page displays > static page > front page > page I created" for example

Mr. Alien

already done

huh, I think I just did it

Mr. Alien

10:08 AM

aha, done, need to create custom page templates

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