Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Logan M

12:01 AM

@Taisho I don't understand what triggered this one to post

Taisho

@LoganM I don't know where that is from, but you can try Google reverse image search, TinEye, SauceNAO or iqdb.

Logan M

@Taisho shut up

Also: pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=34817075

Prix

12:24 AM

@LoganM do you have a 5mb+ image at hand you could send me the link I want to try something

user1306322

Thrills and Spills

Enough twirling to make your head spin! Enough gifs to make yo...

but be careful

Prix

LOL I don't want that page I just want 1 image link that is 5MB+

last time I open that page it ate almost 2gb form my memory

user1306322

take any image link quick and close it :D

Prix

needs to be static as well

Logan M

@Prix The one above googledrive.com/host/0B_8okaqRyPERVlM0OVVCS29TVzQ/… is over 5MB

Prix

12:27 AM

thx

user1306322

> 13,7 MB (14 402 323 bytes)

I wonder what it means when an image is "not cached"

Prix

#post what is the box size Taisho?

what then

2

box size?

12:28 AM

300x300

user1306322

bawkes

Logan M

A lot of the biggest images I have are by Kantoku. His artwork tends to be high enough quality that you see significant compression artifacts if you try to make it small.

Prix

I just got an idea going to see if it works

my upload speed is so cruel

-__-

!ops my bad fixing

Beta-kun

12:49 AM

We will be starting the #stackexchange chat maintenance in about 15 minutes, downtime should be brief. http://stackstatus.net/post/92572393494/chat-maintenance-july-24-2014-at-9-pm-est-1-am-utc

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Prix

OK let's see now

which one it opens for u guys a small or a big one

Ok now it should show the small one

Shinobu Oshino

small, yeah

Prix

mmm this sucks I thought that they would set the image as a target="_blank" which they don't so my idea goes down the hole...

Was planning to use a small .htaccess rule to make so when the image is here, it shows it as an smaller size

and when u click it, it would open with the normal size it was uploaded

if you start a new windows and copy and paste the image above it will give you the normal size

Beta-kun

1:23 AM

#stackexchange chat is going down for the move now. ETA is less than 20 minutes.

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The #stackexchange chat move is now complete, enjoy your evening!

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user1306322

it would help greatly if they also displayed the time of notification

Logan M

If you mean the twitter feed, it does

Just in UTC, which is a bit weird since chat uses your own time zone.

Logan M

1:50 AM

I found an epic answer:

-1

A: Why can't Natsu and Gajeel go through Freed's runes?

I have a theory that you know how zeref is over 400 years old but if you look at the episode where natsu sees zeref zeref cries tears of joy saying saying you`ve grown natsu and we meet again so I think that zeref might actually be related to natsu and since zeref is 400+ maybe natsu is 10...

I'm not an expert on Fairy Tail but it looks spectacular to me.

Shinobu Oshino

might be wrong but why downvote

Logan M

I didn't downvote

Like I said it's spectacular

Shinobu Oshino

I never said you downvote, but I don't see any reason for downvote

I might be wrong tho

thats why I asked

Logan M

Seriously, the reason is probably because it's basically impossible to understand since he doesn't use any punctuation or anything.

Shinobu Oshino

oh yeah, that's the last thing I notice

weird, I understand his answer, probably because I dont really understand English either

Logan M

1:59 AM

I can understand it if I spend maybe 3x the normal amount of time to read it.

Also it seems to be a lot of speculation but very little good evidence. I mean, what he says could be true. It could also be that they're both actually walking statues. If an answer is going to be speculative, I want to see some evidence for the speculation beyond just a quote taken out of context.

Shinobu Oshino

I can understand immediately, am I the weird one?
any way, the whole zeref thing might be true, but it become full speculative when he mention zeref had and army of dragons and they slows down the time

Lucas Kauffman

@ton.yeung hey mate

jep so this where you hang out :p?

I'm singapore atm

probs the time difference

@ton.yeung what happened?

Taisho

2:14 AM

Lucas Kauffman

@ton.yeung shit

@ton.yeung got in an incident repsonse team ?

know how they got in

?

@ton.yeung yea that's a disaster waiting to happen

@ton.yeung pleasure

it's fun though :p

Krazer

2:48 AM

@ton.yeung That depends, what's the place called?

yes, as far as traditional ramen noodles go, eggs are the only suitable substitute for kansui.

the basic thinner, clear souped ramen is paired with thicker, curly, resilient full egg noodles known as "chijiremen"

the thinner, chewy egg-white noodles you find in tonkotsu ramen is called "hosomen"

nhahtdh

3:04 AM

@ShinobuOshino: Can you remove the accepted mark on my answer for anime.stackexchange.com/questions/12874/…? The content on Wikipedia does not have any citation.

Krazer

@ton.yeung this is a chinese owned place isn't it?

@nhahtdh Why is that grounds for unaccepting?

nhahtdh

@Krazer: It's like pulling things from air, except that we take stuffs that other people pull from air

I hope someone else can find a better source

Logan M

Accepted answer just means the OP thinks it answers the question. It doesn't mean the answer is well-sourced or correct. There are plenty of useless or even factually incorrect accepted answers, both here and on other SE sites.

Krazer

@ton.yeung chijiremen is typical of Hokkaido ramen

nhahtdh

@LoganM: Since the accepted answer goes on top, it is much better for it to be correct

Logan M

3:10 AM

@nhahtdh I agree, but it's @ShinobuOshino's decision what to accept.

Honestly, I don't see much value in having accepted answers here at all

But if we're going to have them, then it's the OP's decision

nhahtdh

It would affect the ordering, that's for sure

Krazer

one unsourced answer? welp might as well delete the entire question~~

user1306322

pat the answer gently with the hammer on the check mark

Krazer

!!tell ton stahp

HoiHoi-san

@Krazer Command stahp does not exist. Did you mean: stat, stats

HAMMAHTIME!

user1306322

3:14 AM

yeah, did you mean "stats"? hmm?

Logan M

Honestly, on this site, the majority of answers are disappointingly poorly sourced.

It shouldn't be hard to find quotes from the original sources supporting one's claims, but even among high rep users there's a trend of just writing a correct answer and not providing a credible source.

Krazer

I blame the moderators

Logan M

I blame @Mysticial

5

user1306322

I blame everyone including myself, but watch me do nothing about it

Mysticial

wtf?

Taisho

3:15 AM

Krazer

they're being too lax

nhahtdh

"=_=

Krazer

esp with those id-requests

user1306322

comic relief Taisho

Logan M

@Mysticial loljk

Krazer

3:16 AM

@Mysticial yes, that was fun

user1306322

what's up with id requests?

I usually post at least a MAL link in my answers

what about others?

do they not?

can I hoard more rep?

Krazer

I'll start up a discussion on meta

user1306322

about what?

Logan M

@user1306322 I typically post a link to some site with more info, but that's not really what I'm talking about.

user1306322

where are the examples?

Logan M

3:18 AM

For ID requests one should be able to identify not just the show, but the characters and the particular scene in question.

user1306322

you mean the answer has to contain textual description and multiple reference links and pictures?

Logan M

That makes it easy for anyone to check that they're right, even someone without any particular knowledge of the series.

@user1306322 Not so much for ID requests, but for other answers it should be possible to site your sources.

user1306322

usually if an id contains only a character, you can find a screenshot of the show and add it to the answer

textual id requests don't really make it easy to trust the answerers with images

Logan M

yes "cite"

user1306322

several shows can be described by one short passage

remember the "id anime by its description" game we played a few days back here

Logan M

3:21 AM

Are you talking about ID requests?

Because I'm explicitly not talking about ID requests right now

user1306322

I think I am <.<

ok then I don't know about the rest

Krazer

talk bout id-requests here:

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Q: Is it feasible to keep "identification-request" questions going as they are now?

Let's start fresh Let us take a moment and start a fresh conversation about the value of identification-request questions to our community. Let's start with a fresh, clean stale with identification-request questions. While they are popular... do they really contribute to the site and community? ...

user1306322

as far as I remember only a few answers cite sources

@Krazer cmon man "Is if"?

iz dis how u wanna look in public?

Krazer

@user1306322 but they're so close together...

user1306322

(shines grammar polizei badge)

Logan M

3:24 AM

I really don't think all this effort to try to get rid of ID requests is good for our site in the long run.

Krazer

@user1306322 but you're russian, you can't be german

Logan M

If that's what the broader anime community needs a Q&A site for, then that's what we should be here for.

user1306322

I didn't say where that badge came from

>.>

<.<

Krazer

@LoganM please provide data points to back up your hyopthesis

Logan M

@Krazer What hypothesis are you referring to?

user1306322

3:26 AM

"Not sure if messing with Logan or…" starting once again

Krazer

that limiting the scope will not be beneficial

Logan M

Define "beneficial"

user1306322

yes

Hell Butterfly

0

Q: Is it feasible to keep "identification-request" questions going as they are now?

Let's start fresh Let us take a moment and start a fresh conversation about the value of identification-request questions to our community. Let's start with a fresh, clean stale with identification-request questions. While they are popular... do they really contribute to the site and community? ...

discussion allowed-topics zombies

user1306322

define that, Krazer!

Logan M

3:27 AM

Because that isn't what I'm claiming for the definition I have of "beneficial"

Krazer

"is good for our site"

Logan M

"Good for our site" in what terms?

user1306322

how do you know if something is good for the site?

Krazer

I wrote this weeks ago and have just been sitting on it

Logan M

If you mean good for the average user in this chatroom, I don't think it is. But that's not who we're here for.

user1306322

3:28 AM

obviously, declining id requests would reduce… the number of id requests! which lowers visit count

Krazer

I'm half asleep and all I wanna do is eat ramen watch anime and read manga

user1306322

eat amen :D

Logan M

If you mean good for the average person on the internet who wants to get more information about anime, I can defend my position with more stats than can fit in the 30000 character limit for an answer.

Krazer

@LoganM I welcome this

Logan M

@Krazer Okay, but you'll actually have to read it then

Or ignore it like everyone does with every other meta post and just do whatever you feel like

Krazer

3:30 AM

@LoganM I vow to do so at least twice.

Taisho

Logan M

Then I'll write it at least once

But I'm rather busy these days so it will take some time.

user1306322

@LoganM feats like that is what keeps SE afloat and educates users on how to use it

Krazer

@LoganM This really is a rewording of Mad-sama's previous "discussion" about id-request, but with more data points

user1306322

Mad Café

Krazer

3:33 AM

the intent is to call for more serious discussions

if everyone is passive on the topic then the issue is more likely than not to keep accumulating

user1306322

let's imagine for a moment that we had no such tag and all ID requests were removed, what then?

does the site become better automatically?

by what measurements?

answered questions ratio?

Krazer

@user1306322 did you read the meta post

user1306322

average question quality?

yes I… skimmed it

Krazer

@user1306322 Please actually read it.

user1306322

okay −.−

Krazer

3:36 AM

esp the data points

@ton.yeung no progession... lame!

Logan M

I don't really mind the idea of adding stricter quality measures to ID requests. In fact I'm quite in favor of that.

In fact, if the current measures were followed uniformly, we'd probably not be having this discussion in the first place. But they need to be enforced uniformly and consistently, which is hard because I don't really understand everything there and I don't think anyone else does either.

Krazer

we should start by addressing ambiguities

@LoganM What don't you understand? What is your interpretation of all this?

Logan M

@Krazer Specifically, I don't understand the guidelines at meta.anime.stackexchange.com/a/892

In some cases they seem quite insufficient to ensure that the series will be uniquely identifiable. In others, they seem overly strict.

For example, "I watched an anime in the late 1990s. It was mecha genre." already meets 2 of the points there, so apparently shouldn't be closed.

But in other cases a full plot summary would not be considered sufficient.

Krazer

@LoganM I agree with you here. It's more or less to establish a bare minimum criteria, but I do agree that often times it does fall short of expectations

Logan M

I think if we rework these criteria and have people actually applying them (possibly with a custom OT reason if we have room for one), it would drastically improve the situation.

user1306322

3:47 AM

how about a template?

Logan M

Templates are basically impossible to enforce in this case

Krazer

We've used up our three, but where do you think the most work is needed?

user1306322

if the identification-request tag is detected, poster is offered to post a template to fill out

Logan M

@user1306322 That would require something in the software, which I doubt SE will bother with

user1306322

the template already has all the basic questions that can be asked like when the op saw it, what it looked like, etc

Logan M

3:49 AM

@Krazer Will have to think on it.

user1306322

SE will do it at one point

later than sooner, probably

Logan M

@user1306322 We're just one of >120 sites, and the network is growing faster than the number of developers SE has is. I doubt they'd bother doing it just for us.

Krazer

the think is some id-request re like help vampire questions on SO (but not nearly as plaguing)

user1306322

some types of questions require to be asked in a specific manner to be well answerable

Krazer

I don't want to see us go down that road

Logan M

3:50 AM

I feel like the analogy is flawed.

Help vampires are really only a problem on SO and maybe Math

Our site has the problem that we don't get enough questions, not that we get too many.

So anything we do that cuts that rate had better be worth it.

user1306322

also if we get rid of id requests, will it put A&M at risk of closure?

Logan M

@user1306322 unlikely

The CMs would actually probably like it

Taisho

Krazer

only if traffic drops by 1000% overnight

Logan M

The people who wouldn't like it are the random people on various other anime-related fora.

And I don't want us getting a rep like SO of closing too much stuff. That could end up being fatal for us.

Krazer

3:54 AM

Yeah I agree

Logan M

If someone comes here with a good faith question that can be salvaged and answered, even if they're lazy and didn't do any searching beforehand, I still think we should answer it.

Krazer

what should we do bout those zombie questions then?

none of them are bounty worthy

Logan M

That's true in general, but ID requests are a bit of a special case, if only because the especially low quality ones are basically unanswerable.

@Krazer I don't see a huge problem with just leaving them.

Krazer

their value for retaining users is few and far between

user1306322

considering everything, I've come to the conclusion that ID requests are bad for SE community, but while they exist, I will answer them if it's not too much hassle

Logan M

3:56 AM

If they're over a year old and have 0 net votes or 30 days and -1 or lower, they'll automatically be deleted.

user1306322

ID requests are hard to be asked properly and their stats worsen all other A&M's stats

bad for the site, yeah

but while people don't have a good place to ask them, why not answer

Krazer

@user1306322 I'm looking for an anime where twins molest their brother and he doesn't really mind.

Logan M

@user1306322 I don't really agree with that. I think they're bad for the community here in that we'd prefer other questions. But they're good for all the people on the internet who are looking to identify an anime. Which honestly far outnumbers us in both users and questions.

user1306322

maybe one day somebody will propose an ID movie/anime/book site and it'll get a huge user base

and all users will rejoice

(unlikely scenario)

Logan M

If there were another site which did it better than us, either inside or outside the network, I'd be fine just sending them there. But AFAICT there isn't.

Krazer

3:59 AM

@user1306322 I'm looking for a show where a kid with huge debt attempts to kidnap girl and the story continues from there

user1306322

for now I'd like to consider the ID request a side service of A&M community of stackExchange and be a part of it because that's how kind I am :p

biggest problem is that A&M site is supposed to house all of the SE users that are knowledgeable in the topics of A&M

Logan M

@Krazer am I supposed to be answering these? Because I can, but they're kind of easy and somewhat broad (in that there are multiple series with similar plots to what you're describing).

user1306322

there's no better place on SE right now to ask these questions than here

a separate ID.SE site won't be used as much

I won't use it, for example

Krazer

@user1306322 I'm looking for a show where a guy with a "pokemon" in his stomach chases a guy who has a pokeball on back of his shirt. Another guy wants to catch them all. NOT POKEMON

user1306322

@Krazer are you trying to make a point that it's still bad or just making a joke?

Krazer

4:02 AM

@LoganM if you want to, they're intentionally easy and also broad to reinforce the point about the ambiguity of these types of question

@user1306322 both

there are definite answers to all of these

user1306322

I'll just answer it "it may still be Pokemon, you just might not want to accept that possibility"

ACCEPT THE POSSIBILITY

Krazer

Looking for an anime where a man throws vending machines at a guy who loves people.

user1306322

Durarara!!

Krazer

@user1306322 It's "Naruto"

user1306322

see? e-z

still a valid answer :p

Logan M

4:04 AM

When is DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR season 2 happening?

Krazer

@user1306322 yay, wasn't that fun?

user1306322

a bit

I honestly enjoyed it

Krazer

@LoganM not enough Rs

user1306322

and that's why I'll keep at answering them if I can

Logan M

meh doesn't seem to be announced yet

guess I'll just wait a few more seasons and complain again if it hasn't aired by then.

user1306322

4:06 AM

I'll be waiting for it

Logan M

I'll be looking forward to complaining about it not having aired yet.

Krazer

looking for an anime where fruit goes mushy and scientists get intrigued

user1306322

not your complaints

lol

Taisho

Krazer

looking for a series where a guy tries to help others, gets the shit beat out of him almost every time. also, there's a bit of incest...

user1306322

4:08 AM

hmm… Bioshock! Fruits went mushy there at a certain point in time and there definitely were scientists, although it's hard to tell if they were intrigued or just were like that

also it's not anime, but the main character had big eyes

Krazer

@user1306322 looking for steins;gate

Logan M

@user1306322 @Taisho seemed to think it was an anime for a while

user1306322

yeah and Transistor too

Krazer

Starfish-shaped tears that just won't stop.

user1306322

oh wait it also had a character with big eyes!

HoiHoi-san

4:10 AM

HAMMERTIME!

Logan M

I'm looking for an anime. I think it was called One Piece. Can you help me figure out what anime it was?

Krazer

Mighty morphin people: Halloween edition.

(Soul Eater)

user1306322

no?

Krazer

Looking for a series about a classic tale of a school girl and her demon that when you think about it, THE ENTIRE ANIME WAS MOSTLY FILLERS

user1306322

…Mekakucity Actors?

Krazer

4:13 AM

@user1306322 Inuyasha

user1306322

with that animation no wonder I haven't seen it

Krazer

looking for a series where hormonal teenage girls' emotions break the laws of thermodynamics

user1306322

ooh and 1673567245 episodes, no way

@Krazer I could probably remember about 5 titles that fit that description

looking for anime where in the end it turns out everyone was dead the entire time

could be a legit question

Krazer

Everybody dies horribly, everybody suddenly resurrects and this one chick won't stop saying desu and I don't know what the fuck I'm watching.

@user1306322 do they know they are dead, if so, angel beats

user1306322

Which anime end with revealing that all (or most) main characters died at some point?

right, angel beats, but what else

there have to be more

Krazer

4:18 AM

Whiny, Socially awkward penguin who loves to write in his cell phone is suddenly in a death game. Also, yandere

@user1306322 Madoka fits the best

user1306322

———<===[GRAND SPOILER ALERT]===>———
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadAllAlong
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadToBeginWith

Krazer

Boy stalks that who can see the death of all things.

Guy can't get a girlfriend. Dates his hand instead.

Chubby Chaser: The Animation

Students living their mundane days with soul crushing drama to come

user1306322

@Krazer actually a lot of titles

Krazer

@user1306322 one of them is this literally

looking for an anime that's basically an adaption of a 180 year novel set in Epilepsy-land

user1306322

"Actually a Lot of Titles"