@pnuts, are you on a wiki tag rampage? I just rattled through about 13 edits.

Bodies of water usually flowing naturally from highlands to seas or oceans.

LOL

What about the Ohio River?

Just joking :)

I feel I should contribute to tag wikis as to other aspects of TSE (and find tags with no wiki very unhelpful) but have had unfortunate experiences with these elsewhere on SE. So thought I'd try and offer a few suggestions while still requiring review from others.

If by Ohio River you mean flows into Mississippi River I think not an issue since I'd consider say North End, Croydon as a "high street" even though part of the main shopping area of Croydon is called High Street. "usually" is deliberately 'weasely'! I would be very happy for others to suggest corrections/improvements and my efforts were as much as anything to trigger some kind of response, on the basis that no tag wiki is worse than anything that is a reasonable stab.

At it again: travel.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/35624

@pnuts Good job with the tag edits!

@pnuts Do you know what British girls mean when they say "Croydon Face Lift"? :)

Yes.

It's funny

Yes.

But the result a bit scary (like Bottox).

I have a former gf in Croydon who does botox injections on the side.

She gave my wife and I a free treatment once

@JoErNanO I've tampered with it (don't hesitate to roll back). I thought a map might be useful because of the scope for confusion over the names in different languages and Midi meaning South. Re-ordered N/C/S as 'conventional'. Added locker sizes at Centraal.

Suggest you delete your comments below your answer.

@pnuts good job.

I'll delete the comments.

And i agree: a screenshot of a map is more useful than a link.

@GayotFow You got botox injections?

Do you look like Versace now?

:D

@JoErNanO Of course I did. Even if it meant having to go to Croydon

@JoErNanO you posted the same comment twice. :)

One is an ot flag.

I don't remember which. :)

The accepted answer addresses check-in staff. I see offering them two passports no real issue - for example if I offer a card that was not the one used to buy the ticket they are likely merely to ask me for the right card. So I suspect only immigration officials are really relevant and for that I think a specific answer is possible. In which case, though expressed rather like a matter of opinion (I have no issue with the Q being closed) I think a specific answer (eg as I offered!) is possible.

@pnuts Are you referring to Lohoris' question?

The context is dual citizenship (not two passports from one country) and the premise (China is exceptional) is wrong. Take into consideration allowing/disallowing is about 50/50 then lots of question on the topic can be expected (without the canonical!).

@GayotFow Yes: When in doubt, can't you just show two passports?

@pnuts Poorly conceived, what about treble nationals?

we don't even have a tag :(

Guess they might have bigger issues to worry about (like multiple personality disorder) :)

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

I had to delete my OWN question yesterday

Surely not had to ?

Somehow it was wrong, got down voted; I figured it was bad

But I am below the radar to get a suspension :)

I think one would need to delete several questions even before being warned and then not necessarily suspended/rationed the very next time.

@pnuts yeah, don't know the procedure exactly, but that fellow is testing the frontiers

You mean User?

that fellow

A smart ass

I rather thought the opposite (seemed to think China was highly exceptional in the context, when it is not)!

Mind you, I can't see deleted questions on TSE.

Would you like to see it?

If you have the number for it (and advise me of it!) I think I may be able to.

@pnuts now click on the image

@JoErNanO, I am just getting ready to draft the ever elusive canonical question about Schengen

@GayotFow Good. It's drafting the answer that is fundamental. The question is straightforward. :)

@JoErNanO I will put it in here first if you are here, ok?

Had not seen "Dieppe" before and seems a good question to me - I believe very similar to current official, or at least semi-official, guidance to lorry drivers.

@pnuts Yes, Dieppe is a great crossing

plus historical significance :) The Dieppe Raid!

There may also be other options (St Malo to Portsmouth ?) - but comparing their timings might hit the WANTA obstacle.

I use the UK-Continent ferries that suit the further travel best. Never used the St Malo yet, not sure about the Dieppe one.

Might have used it.

@pnuts That must be the problem then. I didn't think of WANTA

@Willeke If you are coming from NL, the Dieppe crossing is harder to reach

@pnuts Is there a way to de-WANTA it?

Can I get from Barcelona to LGW by car in under x hours, avoiding Calais? might scrape by.

But when you travel from the Weald and downland museum to Slovakia it is not that far out of the way.

Avoiding Calais without adding too many hours, consider Dunkirk. When booking ahead cheaper and just 30 minutes longer crossing.

Might be worth checking Beaujolais nouveau records also. :)

@Willeke you see? that should be a great answer! excellent

@Willeke I'm impressed by your support for the museum at Singleton.

Traveling from London to the Netherlands the Dunkirk ferry works out as fast as the Calais ones, and when planning early enough, cheaper

I have never used Dunkirk, but Ian (my boyfriend) uses it about once a year. (And he claims that adding passengers is free, even after booking.)

Lovely museum, we had a great meeting there, using one of the buildings you never see on TV, the one they use to do their own work.

@Willeke add that to your answer

Anyway, I'm much more tolerant of 'marginal' questions when asked by someone who has answered questions and upvoted answers to their own questions - suspect others may be too.

Dunkirk is good because it unloads on the M20

@GayotFow And that's good (at present)? !

@GayotFow Of course.

@pnuts ok, Dunkirk is better than good :)

What are we looking at @Willeke?

I bought an EasyJet ticket yesterday and could check-in imediately, 3 weeks before travel.

That building in the weald and downland museum.

Sorry, forgot that it did not come with explanation.

Outside of that same museum.

Same building.

@JoErNanO I am going to use Markdown

@GayotFow do you have a link to that Dunkirk ferry question?

Re M20 - note "Phase three: the London-bound closure between J8-9".

@Willeke travel.stackexchange.com/questions/52054/…

@Willeke Saw the proposals for it (I think), seems like not so long ago. VERY different from when I used to be able to visit for free.

@GayotFow I get a question not found, removed by author.

Yeah. He needs to undelete first.

@Willeke ok, scroll up in chat until you see a red image

it looks like that :)

I can now see the content of the question, I can not anything to it.

can not ADD anything....

@Willeke It's a picture, an image --- static content

So I can not add, (which you asked me to do.)

@Willeke Sorry for the confusion. I mean when somebody DOES ask the question

OK

Next ferry I am going to take (as planned now) is North Shields (Newcastle) to IJmuiden (Amsterdam)

And it looks like I can walk from my last place to stay to the ferry and from the ferry home.

Both times using a local ferry.

For Barcelona>LGW Google (no traffic) shows 13:51. Via Dunkirk 14:42. Via St Malo 18:38.

@pnuts Given Calais, Dunkirk is actually faster

@Willeke Do you think you can answer that question head on without WANTA implications?

Ferry is actually from Caen (also historical significance). Without traffic faster, not sure if so with, at present.

Replace St Malo with Caen and time is 17:21.

@Willeke Dunkirk unloads in Dover, just like Calais

There used to be an Ostend-Ramsgate ferry but that stopped running recently (this year or last) which might have been an acceptable alternative.

@pnuts That's the quickest yet

The ferries to Porthsmouth and further west are all much slower.

@Willeke yeah, a good choice since it unloads really near the orbital

I need to remove the WANTA slant from that question and put it out there again

What is 'WANTA'?

@Willeke See meta.travel.stackexchange.com/questions/1445/…

By the way, I would not suggest just one alternative route, but several.

@JoErNanO, I am reading the Schengen Handbook volumes 1 and 2 carefully to be sure it's right

Thanks

If you have driving a long distance you might like an overnight ferry that allows enough time for a proper night of sleep. On the other hand, if you can not sleep on a ferry you might prefer the shortest crossing.

@Willeke It's all about getting to the orbital

When I google London Orbital I get several results, I can not guess which you mean. Just the M25?

@Willeke Yes, the M25 is fine

Odd. Neither The AA nor Google are showing signs on congestion on the M20 (and live feeds seem to confirm that) yet The Telegraph seems to indicate congestion should be expected.

@GayotFow Now that's commitment.

@pnuts The M25 is always congested.

Many phenomena - wars, plagues, sudden audits - have been advanced as evidence for the hidden hand of Satan in the affairs of Man, but whenever students of demonology get together the M25 London orbital motorway is generally agreed to be among the top contenders for exhibit A.

Terry Pratchett

I have been told that someone was on the circular carpark.

@GayotFow Ezekiel 18.20 etc but.

Cherbourg to Portsmouth only takes 3 hours, summer only.

The long version of The Road To Hell mentions the M25.

Cherbourg to Poole is longer and the UK port less useful, I guess.

Caen and Le Havre to Portsmouth might be acceptable, depending on the route in France.

Hence WANTA - will depend on traffic conditions, ferry timings/availability, weather ...

Portsmouth to M25 should be about an hour plus traffic.

I think TSE will be better when not closing all borderline questions.

sorry, incoming skype from my wife

Real life should always go before chat.

@Willeke Would you factor in how these are asked?

Modern parties at home where everybody is looking at some kind of screen, often each a different one. I have never been to one, but I guess they are less fun than the ones we used to go to without screens at all.

well crud, someone undeleted one of my answers /looks at mods

I used to have a round 1500 answers, after an answer on zzyzx

jumped to 1501

I used to have a round 1500 answers, after an answer on zzyzx

ah well, gave me an excuse to answer my Iran suit question :)

ah well, gave me an excuse to answer my Iran suit question :)

@MarkMayo you mean that now the number is not round anymore you have no reason to stop yourself from answering?

@JoErNanO this is bad

bad bad bad

I'm reading the Schengen handbook and BAM

one of my answers turns out to be WRONG

I have made a stop-gap update

@NeanDerThal, read your question/answers again

Ah! But was it wrong at the time of writing? If regulations stayed static we would have a much easier existence.

@pnuts I actually don't know if it was wrong at the beginning. My original answer seems to stick hard to the UK side of things though

I wouldn't worry about it either way. On SO for example there are lots of answers that have ceased to be valid or have become superseded by better solutions.

@pnuts Poor form :)

@JoErNanO I am going to suspend my canonical draft and see if there's anything else wrong :(

TSE is "best efforts" - nobody can sue us for malpractice.

starred :)

Granada police get a patch displaying their twitter handle

is that awesome or what?

@GayotFow Draft it on meta.

Once the draft is a semi completed draft.

And the m25 is the world's biggest open air parking.

Everybody knows.

:D

@JoErNanO where on META? like a question/answer???

If I ask a visa question on META and everybody goes WTF?

I think "draft it on meta" is in general not a good idea. As you mention, WTF?

@GayotFow Give it an informative title.

@mindcorrosive Suggested this if I recall correctly.

@JoErNanO what did @mindcorrosive suggest?

@pnuts Yeah, if everybody goes WTF, then matters are worse

I admit however I am on very dodgy ground given: meta.travel.stackexchange.com/questions/3222/…

@pnuts That looks like a good format

I see what can be done

@JoErNanO not so much any more. We're staying a couple of miles from it this weekend and it's already mostly fine. Flew over it this afternoon and it's still weird but not like it was on Thursday