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8:40 AM
@ArtOfCode How do you mean?
@GayotFow What do you mean by next bonanza article?
 
@Ulkoma and @Relaxed, if there's a problem with racism (where?) please link to it or more importantly, flag it and leave it alone. There's no need to bring it up and passively aggressively bait people.
I feel I don't know the whole story so won't comment or assume further, but let's keep things civil :)
@GayotFow next article? what?
if you've not talked about something in a while, it helps to include some detail, as I'm not sure what you're referring to ;)
 
8:56 AM
@MarkMayo The want where everybody makes a hard commitment
on the rep they will spend
 
@JoErNanO someone flagged something that shouldn't have been flagged; when I turned up the room was full of mods and you, and I doubt it was any of those people.
 
feel free to post it, @JoErNanO and I can have a look
 
@ArtOfCode There was an argument/flame war waiting to happen though.
 
Bounty added:
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Q: Singapore visa accidentally issued with old passport number. Can I still travel?

TaraI'm an Indian citizen and the Singapore consulate accidentally issued my business Visa with my old passport number. Can I still travel without getting a new Visa?

 
Oh definitely. Everyone managed to be adults for once though :)
 
9:04 AM
Bounty added:
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Q: Priceline bidding: how does it work?

nsnI recently tried Priceline.com bidding, but I got no result, meaning they were not able to get the ticket for the price I bid. In the end, after adjusting the parameters (price/airport) several times, I got the feeling that they simply search and try to find a route that may match your price. Yo...

Bounty added:
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Q: Where from Ethiopia can I see the Red Sea?

blackbird57Ethiopia is a landlocked country, however it's mostly high elevation (2000-2500m) and given that Eritrea seems to be narrow, I'm wondering if it's possible to see the Red Sea from Ethiopia. I'm assuming the dry air would aid in visibility. If it's possible, where would be a good spot to do that ?

@JoErNanO I'm sure you'll be keen on a couple of these ones
Especially since I suspect (But have no proof) that the answer to the last one is "nowhere"
 
@MarkMayo Thanks Mark.
 
@MarkMayo I am not bringing up any racism problem of which I know nothing... What I was reacting to is Ulkoma (aka User, etc.) constant trolling, which he just admitted yesterday both in his last question and his messages here
 
9:24 AM
@Relaxed I know, I just tagged you both for the conversation.
Don't feed the trolls ;)
 
10:15 AM
I don't troll, I ask questions, if you don't like them then vote against them
 
@Ulkoma no more insults, please. Keep it civil in here.
 
@MarkMayo Where were you when that monkey avatar called me Pakistani and insulted Pakistan?
Or when he threatened to report me to the police
 
firstly, I don't live on the site. Secondly, if you see something rude, flag it for the mods, and don't respond to their insults/bait.
using someone else's transgressions to justify your own won't work in here.
 
Well it seems you are around when I respond
 
I'm in no way justifying anyone else's actions, I didn't see the incident you're referring to. I'm just asking you to keep it civil.
 
10:19 AM
Too much hypocrisy in here
 
can you link to the offending posts you're talking about? Or has another mod taken care of them?
 
I'll flag later, I am on my phone at the moment
 
cheers. that's all you need to do in future, that way if a mod isn't around at the time, they can at least deal with the user later.
 
Well they never dealt with him when he kept using the F word towards me
 
did you flag the post?
 
10:22 AM
Yet I get insulted all the time for asking questions
 
mts
@JoErNanO do you have any more info on this than I do? travel.stackexchange.com/a/67534/32134
 
if not, then how would you expect them to deal with it? Read all 39,000 users' posts that day?
Like I said, flag posts. Don't be baited by other users. And certainly, don't insult others, even if you feel you've been insulted first.
 
Yes I did, got removed he used F word again
He didn't even get warned
 
well actually, you wouldn't see if people get warned. They get a private message. So you're being presumptive there.
if he gets flagged repeatedly, mods will suspend if he keeps using offending language or flouting the rules.
So don't let a someone on the internet upset you, just flag offending posts and move on. They'll get taken care of.
 
mts
@MarkMayo welcom back to the chat. Once you have a moment, could you please have a look at this: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/591?m=29184222#29184222 related to meta.travel.stackexchange.com/questions/3616/…
It's been floating around for a while
 
10:26 AM
Yeah yeah give me the FAQs while he continued bashing me right under your nose
 
@Ulkoma again, you've not linked to the post, given me a user, or anything else. You're not helping yourself.
I've checked your recent posts, comments and the chat and see no sign of such interaction, so without a link, you can't really expect more.
@mts I'll take a look later when I get a moment, thanks
 
I said I m on my phone, it's that monkey avatar who keeps flaming me in the chat and you all find it funny
 
OK you're using insults again. That's a SE law. Please refrain from doing that.
 
Which insults? Please explain
 
You just called someone names in the previous comment. Be nice.
 
10:31 AM
You know what, I'll come here everyday and copy paste his words and replace my name with yours
and let's see how that goes
 
Well again, I've not seen his words. But if they're as bad and against the rules and you post them, all that'll happen is you get barred. So that'd be a shame :(
on the upside, it might help me search the chat for the same text and see where it was typed before
 
Oh I get banned for quoting someone?
But the OP stays?
 
changing words is not quoting.
 
lovely
 
Nope, I just said it'd help me search for him and deal with that too
 
10:33 AM
Changing the name only
 
Take some time, realise that we're actually here to have fun, talk travel, and 99% of people aren't out to be jerks online. I've even offered to help you repeatedly above.
 
10:48 AM
Looking for a missing @JoEr
 
@ShadowWizard Yo.
 
Huh! Found you. Den miss you, @Joe
 
11:06 AM
@mts I'll look at it once I get back from lunch.
 
afternoon everyone
 
evening
 
@HeidelBerGensis Just the person I'm looking for. A pair of your messages from April 29 (yeah, I know, weird) were just flagged.
 
@ArtOfCode i would be biased if you take my opinion :)
 
I've deleted said messages. Be Nice.
 
11:12 AM
If i said something insulting, i will be more than happy to be punished for them, but i assure you i meant no harm or insult.
 
@HeidelBerGensis Good, no harm done then. No need for punishing, just needed to get that one across.
 
@ArtOfCode thank you :)
@ShadowWizard welcome to coolest chat room in SE network
 
12:02 PM
@HeidelBerGensis Not true
You are annoyed because you are this type of user who cares very much about reputation and bragging .. etc
And I assume that you think I represent a threat to you
Other than JoErNanO it seems you all have very little experience with the Internet
or maybe you are all softies
Because you consider what I am doing trolling
Some are even child enough to close a question that's on topic
 
Please please please stop arguing in chat. You two have different opinions. That happens. No need to continue pestering each other. Just learn to leave with it. Otherwise, if either one of you feels that they've been insulted/attacked/offended/whatever, or that SE rules were breached, use the appropriate flagging mechanisms and let the higher-ups deal with it.
Quite frankly, I'm not here on Travel chat to read you go on and on with your argument.
 
@JoErNanO whats up mate?
 
@HeidelBerGensis Trying to get some work done. Have a deadline for Wednesday. Can't get motivated. :)
 
@JoErNanO motivation.. mmmmmmm
 
@HeidelBerGensis stop being an idiot
 
12:13 PM
@ArtOfCode what?
 
@ArtOfCode What's happening?
 
@ArtOfCode excuse me? what did i say? it is a joke! you stop being an idiot :)
 
@HeidelBerGensis t'ain't funny. If someone comes along and flags that, everyone on the network is going to see it out of context, assume you're being a sexist misogynist pig, and get you suspended. Think before you post.
 
@ArtOfCode seriously? wow!
 
@HeidelBerGensis No I did not read. /cc @ArtOfCode
 
12:18 PM
@JoErNanO an inappropriate 'joke' of a sexual nature.
 
@ArtOfCode "inappropriate" ?
ok
anyway let it go
no problem :)
we are good
@ArtOfCode you are a programmer, i have a question for you if you do not mind...
 
sure?
What language are we talking?
(More to the point, if you're trying to make another joke at my expense, congratulations, ha ha.)
 
human++
 
@ArtOfCode OK OK I don't need to know. @HeidelBerGensis Please be nice. ;)
 
@HeidelBerGensis Can't say I've ever heard of it.
 
12:28 PM
@mts Give me a minute. I have to test one more thing.
@mts Tried booking a Frecciarossa Florence to Rome for the 16th of June. No problem.
The timetable change might be something specific to Intercity Notte's.
One last check.
 
mts
@JoErNanO yes I think so and it also says in the text the frecce are better
 
@mts Maybe not better. Just used by more passengers thus trenitalia doesn't want to disrupt the service too much. Damn Trenitalia page froze my browser. Or it might be the 200 tabs I have open. On 5 dynamic desktops.
Let me try a different intercity.
 
mts
Think I found something: seat61.com/Italy-trains.htm#How to use Trenitalia.com
 
I found a similar thing saying to use lefrecce.it
 
mts
"Booking may open only 30-60 days ahead for travel immediately after the two annual timetable changes, on the 2nd Sunday in June and 2nd Sunday in December. Trenitalia is always late loading the data for a new timetable period, especially for regional, InterCity and international trains."
 
12:34 PM
Managed to get to the payment window for another Intercity Notte. O_o
 
mts
hm, still I wouldn't worry for the chap to Tropea
 
Might be that this intercity timetable has already been updated.
 
mts
he should just try again every day
 
Anyhow go ahead and edit your answer. Get the rep. Grow, my son, grow. :D
 
mts
Ahaha thanks!
I shall award you a bounty one day :D
 
12:36 PM
Tell me when you want me to clean up my comments.
No worries. :)
 
mts
give me a min ;)
 
This is a team effort!
 
mts
@JoErNanO done updating (though I tend to leave comments around). Thanks
 
@mts As you wish. I can clean up if you want.
 
mts
Go ahead then
I'll get back to actual work
 
12:49 PM
Ciao man. Talk to you later.
 
@HeidelBerGensis thanks! I was here before though, it's not my first visit. ;)
 
1:01 PM
@MarkMayo hey thanks for the bounty on my question :)
 
1:33 PM
@blackbird57 no worries :)
For all:
A reminder:
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Q: Rule 1: Be nice!

Mark MayoSo there's a couple of meta questions about this, and it's been discussed at length in the chat room, and the mods' chat room. What it comes down to: Stackexchange has rules about being nice. We've been very lenient with these rules. We will no longer be. Insults / personal attacks will resul...

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1:49 PM
@ArtOfCode you see, BE NICE, do not call people idiots :) listen to Mark please. Mark is a nice admin, be like Mark..
 
@HeidelBerGensis it applies to you as well ;)
 
@MarkMayo yes sure, to everyone... but I guess @ArtOfCode wasn't aware so I am teaching him.
 
@HeidelBerGensis idiot is so mild I don't even consider it an insult. But sure, if you're offended, apologies. While we're at it, shall we talk about that underhanded, thinly-veiled gfys "joke"?
 
I didn't even bother, I deleted it. I consider the above Meta post a warning to anyone in the next while not to push the boundaries :)
 
@ArtOfCode sure man, you seem like a new python guy, I will be glad to teach you coding with Human++ sometime, catch me when I am free, i am here most of the time when I am online.. but tell me something, how long did you take to get the joke?
 
1:54 PM
@HeidelBerGensis about half a second. People throw these kind of things at mods every day.
 
before i leave, i apologize for my joke in case it offended you :)
 
took me about 5 seconds, which was too long, I must be tired
reminded me of last night on reddit
 
You're not the first one to come up with it and you won't be the last :P
 
come on, at least the underscore is a new thing :/
 
1:55 PM
@HeidelBerGensis Nope. Stack Overflow saw to that.
 
:)
@MarkMayo that requires a lot of thinking, now i have something to keep me busy!
i need to get the "ask a glass of water" one..
 
hehe
ah yes
some quotes in there from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy that are classics too
 
2:15 PM
"Ever noticed how glass tastes like blood?"
 
yeah, I still shudder at that one :)
 
mts
3:03 PM
@blackbird57 when you edited this A travel.stackexchange.com/a/1164/32134 you updated the timestamp of the source but not the new information contained there
@JonathanReez good job on this bounty: travel.stackexchange.com/q/1011/32134
 
3:27 PM
@mts the first paragraph is identical, they do mention that since 2015 "citizens of 51 countries may stay visa free [...] for 72 hours while transiting to their destinations" but they don't say which ones
 
mts
4:18 PM
key is the second paragraph: there are new airports added and the duration is longer: 72h instead of 48h
even that is out-of-date as Shanghai and Peking (?) have made this 144h by now
 
4:59 PM
@mts where do you see 144 days ? on that page all I see is "As of March 2015, citizens of 51 countries may stay visa free in Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Chongqing, Dalian, Shengyang and Harbin for 72 hours while transitting to their destinations."
@mts I've updated the answer, but if you have a different more authoritative source, by all means, edit it again :)
 
mts
5:23 PM
@blackbird57 seen thanks. I'll have a go at it in the following days mabye, the 144h thing is not on that page but can be found online. let's hope @MarkMayo won't be upset the kiwi reference is gone ;)
 
 
3 hours later…
7:56 PM
Bad news for diving fans
Egypt sold one of their best diving spots to Saudi Arabia
And these are the same guys who want their ancient art back because "it was unfairly sold" :)
 

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