@TheDestroyer I have never heard about that text Chaturvarga.. I have no idea who Hazra etc are..also don't give any importance to such comments ..In Bengal we know our stuffs..we have enough Pundits.. We don't have to hear what others have to say..Devi Bhagavata is authentic and is the real Bhagavata.. YOu can at least check the Kamakoti page where they proved it.

It seems @RohitSinghRathore is following Bhakti Yoga also, apart from Jnana Yoga. he is listening to many Shiva Songs on Youtube.,

nice u r also into bhakti right ?

@RakeshJoshi who? me?

yes

@TheDestroyer I follow all types of Yoga including Bhakti Yoga, Jnana Yoga & KarmaYoga in particular proportions.

How are you @RakeshJoshi Sir ( PBUH) :P

@RohitSinghRathore Me too. All Yogas. I sent you four new songs.

@TheDestroyer giood

good satsanga happened yesterday

I started my Spiritual Journey ( Jnana Yoga) with Nirvana Shatakam only. I can chant as well along. Only Shiv tandav Stotram & Nirvana Shatakam I can chant I'm Sanskrit.

ThanksWill watch. @TheDestroyer

@Rickross Great!

Good night @TheDestroyer (Peace be upon you)

Good night @RakeshJoshi Sir ( Peace be upon you)

why arya samaj translation is looked down upon by some

@RohitSinghRathore allah hafeez.

@RohitSinghRathore why are you using that?

@RakeshJoshi 😂

@TheDestroyer Can't I use? :P

emoticons are not visible

@RakeshJoshi :-D

thanks

Welcomulla illaha illalillahi.

@RohitSinghRathore Mlecha Bhasha Neecham.

Hahaha @TheDestroyer 😂😂😂

@TheDestroyer Which texts are you reading nowadays?

@RohitSinghRathore Nothing much. Will start Upanishads after visiting Sri Sailam.

Buddhist SE allows personal questions as well. I liked it.

@RohitSinghRathore You live in MP?

Yes, You?

Did you visit Ujjain Mahakaleswara?

@RohitSinghRathore AP

why in buddhism

@TheDestroyer No, I haven'tt. Just bathed during Kumbha last year.

@RohitSinghRathore Ok. i watch live Bhasma Arti sometimes.

@RakeshJoshi Buddham Sharnam Gachchami, Sangham Sharnam Gachchami, Dammam Sharnam Gachchami.

Live ? @TheDestroyer Lord Mahadeva must be laughing. @RakeshJoshi

:P

@RohitSinghRathore The only Jyotirlinga i visited till now is Tryambaka.

Why? I even see Kasi Visveswara in live. :P Even Somnatha.

@TheDestroyer its pushti- vardhanam

@TheDestroyer I haven't visited because I don't get spiritual vibes in crowds.

live.shrikashivishwanath.org/live.aspx

@RohitSinghRathore I like visiting Shiva temples because we can touch Linga.

Moreover @TheDestroyer at last Lord Mahadeva the exalted one, describes in Vijnānabhairav Tantra the esoteric meaning of pilgrimage.

@TheDestroyer Have you installed one at your home?

@RohitSinghRathore Piligrimages may have esoteric meaning but he also sees our efforts in reaching temples. Morever, we get virtues in showing that efforts which can be used further to enhance our spirtuality.

@RohitSinghRathore planning to bring Linga from Sri Sailam.

@RohitSinghRathore visit Mahakaleswara. Mahakaleswara temple is place of Shaivaite learning especially Agamas.

@TheDestroyer Learning in temples? How? Btw, I will recommend you to read Raurava āgama.it is short. .

@RohitSinghRathore you?

@RohitSinghRathore Temple was once place of learning Shaiva Scriptures. You can take blessings of Shiva there.

Yes. I'm into linga worship as well. Desire to install Shunyakar & Linga if I buy house in future.

what is Shunyakar?

@TheDestroyer Man made cave for meditation or Sadhna.

:)

@RohitSinghRathore ohh..do you want to install it in your pooja room?

1 linga + Shunyakar at one place. I desire so, let's see whether I will make it happen or not.

@RakeshJoshi Sir u are smiling?

@RohitSinghRathore i want to take initiation first. But i'm not sure of which philosophy. Advaita or Shaivam related philosophy.

@TheDestroyer what is there to "take" in advaita?

@RakeshJoshi Smarta.

there is only shunning ... thread, tuft, family , etc

Haha

Btw, i don't like tuft. I like long hair moreover like Jata of Shiva.

@TheDestroyer As a Shiva devotee why Advait?

that is also not allowed .. they prefer it bald like the bhikkhus

what smarta i did not get @TheDestroyer

@RohitSinghRathore two reasons: 1) Adi Shankara is Shiva 2) His world as complete Maya looked reasonable and logical for me (i verified with my personal experience).

The whole Advait Vedanta is contained in Saktopaye of KashmiriShaivaism. Advait Vedanta is proper subset of Kashmiri Shaivism.

How you verified world as Maya via a personal experience? 😵 @TheDestroyer

@RohitSinghRathore Actually, all philosphies are true relatively in Advaita. All Philosophies which show Saguna Brahman and even Nirguna Brahman with attributes comes under advaita (relatively).

@RohitSinghRathore Changing things can't be real.

@TheDestroyer But KS scriptures are Shiva's sayings. See, this is your choice but you won't be able to filled with devotion for Shiva in Advait Vedanta. Philosophically Shaivite has its own significances. .

@RohitSinghRathore You should go to saddest stage of your life to understand that.

so you mean changing and unreal are synonyms ? @TheDestroyer

there are words like nitya and anitya.. for describing them.

@RohitSinghRathore Things become sectarian if i miss Advaita.

dont shy in becoming sectarian .. nothing wrong

@RakeshJoshi if one becomes sectarian. he spends his/her time in useless debates which don't take to his Ista Deva.

Lol bro @TheDestroyer Advait Vedanta itself is sectarian. Well I have already said - whatever you will find in Advait, you will find in ks as well.

@RakeshJoshi @RohitSinghRathore But i'm not complete Advaitin.

@RohitSinghRathore how?

@RohitSinghRathore I may like KS as well. As it is Advaitic and Shiva.

@TheDestroyer Shankar Vedanta believes in non duality at Brahman level onlyy , but Kashmiri Shaivism believes in non duality within Māyā as well as every Jeeva is Shiva with his Shakti.

@RohitSinghRathore i think his whole isssue is only about static Vs dynamic god ...

@RohitSinghRathore Can you give roadmap for learning KS?

You haven't read any book from KS. I strongly recommend you to read one. 2nd - Abhinavgupta was not inferior from Adi Shankar in any way.

@RakeshJoshi Yes. Which we discussed earlier,

@RohitSinghRathore It's not correct compare Philosophers. All philosophies are different paths to reach one Brahman.

@RakeshJoshi I don't know why @TheDestroyer don't want to let Shiva create. He wants to see Shiva as something unable to create. 😂

shiva involves in 5 cosmic acts ... pancha kritya through shakti

@TheDestroyer I'm saying because your mind is suitable for KS.

@RohitSinghRathore He actually does in maya. Let me read KS also.

@TheDestroyer let the divine pulsation throb in your heart . dont show any resistance.

@TheDestroyer Well, Start reading Shiva Sutra by Jaidev Singh from very start. You will get introduction. .

he can mail u books and commentaries. you can daily read 15-20 mins to begin with.

@RohitSinghRathore Yeah. Recommend scriptures for beginners.

para praveshika is also introduction text.

if u know hindi i there are audio discourse as well

@RohitSinghRathore I can read direct Agamas scriptures. Instead of philosophy direct scriptures. Like i skip Brahma Sutras in vedanta and can read Upanishads.

instead of saying whole world as false product of maya we see divine chaitanya even in rocks

@RakeshJoshi Even Advaita says the same. Ok. let's not debate now.

@TheDestroyer Shiv Sutras are revelation of Lord Shiva only. Revealed to check duality. Start from there.

if there is chaitanya then it can never be unreal

@RohitSinghRathore To whom Shiva said them?

@TheDestroyer After KS, you will know why there are so many philosophies.

@TheDestroyer Vasugupta

@RohitSinghRathore Haha. Actually i know it from Advaita as well.

@RohitSinghRathore ok.

@RohitSinghRathore Whose translation is best?

Do you have them in Sanskrit as well?

@RakeshJoshi Yes.

@RakeshJoshi Thanks! I will see their translations side by side.

@TheDestroyer Well, I was also Advaitin before 1-2 years, started with Deutsch essential Vedanta. Vedanta gave me insights but after going through KS, I felt as if the school is for me, that's what I want, Advait Vedanta was just a initial pushing.

many foreigners have devoted their whole lives for reviving KS and its tradition

@RakeshJoshi But Kashmir is now boiling.

@RakeshJosh I haven't watched. Btw, watch Shutter island. I liked the movie.

@RohitSinghRathore Yeah. Even i watched it.

Do you think he was framed or he was mental?

hmm but we are less concerned with place than philosophy

i was suggested to watrch lucy and inception

Right @RakeshJoshi wanted to say the same. :P

bengal gave many great saint but look at bangadesh and west bengal condition ..

next will be your telangana ... after muslim domination spread from HYD

@RakeshJoshi Not sure but I think inception & matrix touch World as Maya.

ok

@RakeshJoshi If my guess is correct, there's a heavy Earth quake lurking under Bangladesh and eastern portions of West Bengal.

ldeo.columbia.edu/news-events/…

so what will it do ?

Mass killing and Mass karma.

even if lacs die there still it will be same

 See @TheDestroyer even after believing world as Mayaa, your unable to reject the world then why waste your time being Sanyasi & cheat yourself. Better to accept the world & strive for liberation while working. We have to become witness from enjoyer only .

@RakeshJoshi Mamata is converting many people of eastern districts of WB to Muslims for her vote bank politics. Something divine thing planned long ago,

@RohitSinghRathore Lol. this is not actually correct.

@TheDestroyer if you don't find Shiva sutras by Jaidev Singh, do mail me. I will send you.

@RohitSinghRathore I downloaded them.

How such text? 😵

so kashmir and bengal same

Kali Demon is very intelligent, he attacked esoteric sects of Hinduism

Kashmir, Bengal & Kerala

Hub of Tantra

@RakeshJoshi I don't know about kashmir. I'm interested to know how Kalki will solve all these problems or situations may be very different when he comes.

See @RakeshJoshi sir @TheDestroyer is Waiting for Kalki Avatar.

no one will save ... u have god within you

@RohitSinghRathore lol. Not waiting. Just Analyzing things.

u also have the amsha

@RakeshJoshi Did i say i'm waiting for Kalki?

dont take in wrong way just saying .

india is having more youth population and good people .. only the democracy is like shit

goons are sitting in big positions

@RohitSinghRathore It's not actually difficult to revive.

@TheDestroyer Kalki Avatar is representation of an enlightened being who after taking sword( knowledge) from Lord Shiva ( Shaiva philosophies) will kill demons (wrong religions).

@TheDestroyer r u planning to go north anytime for pilgrimage ?

@RakeshJoshi Democracy is real shit. During elections those who fund will get benefits after voting.

@RakeshJoshi Yeah. FIrst city will be Kashi.

no north means real north

himachal , JK , UK

@RakeshJoshi May be after some months. Uttarakhand maybe.

kashi is now filled with filth and full of drug addicts and criminals ..

@RakeshJoshi EVen Deva Bhoomi uttarakhand. There are AC Ashramas for foreigners. Lol.

@RakeshJoshi along with deceived terrorists.

if you are a passionate biker then you can go to dream ride Leh - Ladakh

UK is less corrupted than UP ..

You can visit Mecca as well. @TheDestroyer

@RakeshJoshi Yeah. My friend had that rip.

non muslims not allowed in mecca temple

@RohitSinghRathore we both can go and take @RakeshJoshi also with us.

@RakeshJoshi has immense love for prophets.

prophet muhamad pbuh is the last prophet ...

pBUH. 😂😂

unlike hinduism no more scope for further prophets .

@RakeshJoshi Imam Mehdi will come to save them (Shia view) like Kalki.

There is no concept of prophets in Hinduism.

all will be brutally massacred

By whom?

extremists

my wish is to go mansarovar but its expensive ..

Ghazwa-e-Hind is an Islamic concept that is given in the Hadith. Ghazwa means barbaric war. Ghazwa-e-Hind means barbaric war of conquering india.

@RakeshJoshi you can get concession.

@RohitSinghRathore Hindu Kush mountains are named like that.

Ghazwa-e-Hind or the final battle of India is an Islamic term mentioned in some "good" hadiths in particular[125][126] predicting a final and last battle in India and as a result, a conquest of the whole Indian sub-continent by Muslim warriors. The term has recently become a subject of vast criticism in media for being used by militant groups to justify their activities in the subcontinent

@RakeshJoshi Save money. Even i'm saving for my jyotirlingas tour,

Freelancer?

@RohitSinghRathore No Vijayawada, i work from home.

@RohitSinghRathore Not exactly now. Just Android App Developer. But improving skills to become freelancer.

i dont like to go crowded places more

do u know web deisgn or only app design

@TheDestroyer I will strongly recommend you to turn your focus to ML instead.

I know web design sir.

good

@RakeshJoshi App Developing with designing of Icons, layouts and many things. App Developement involves many things. But finally Advertizing plays a major role. If we don't advertize prperly, we don't get good money. But i'm learning IOS app developement as well.

But web designing gonna be cheap after 3_5 years.

oh

i will make spiritual site then

@RakeshJoshi it actually easy with Wordpress.

@RakeshJoshi Good idea.

@RakeshJoshi There are many tutorials in udemy.

foreigners are more receptive to spirituality

@RohitSinghRathore Did you see Google I/O 2017?

Watch the video @TheDestroyer.

has google introduced new software for chat ?

@RakeshJoshi They are training computers (machine learning).

High time to learn ML, Data Science

i was doing some SEO some years back under a freelancer.

i was working under a freelancer .. while in college as a part time work .

@RakeshJoshi ok.

@TheDestroyer @RakeshJoshi finally good night. :)

@RohitSinghRathore Gn.

@TheDestroyer what u think of law of attracion for money making and manifestation