Japanese Language - 2016-04-30

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5:11 AM

わかりません・・・

プリキュアには「キュアホワイト」と「キュアブラック」という主人公がでてくるらしい・・

6:06 AM

@oals Yeah, I guess it's one of those cases where word-for-word translation doesn't work. One (or only) way to cope is to look past the words of the phrase and translate the intention/sentiment behind them, which in this case ends up with something like "Don't be unreasonable."

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9:20 AM

Ah yes, you're right. That's what they are called apparently. :)

10:12 AM

@broccoliforest Apparently, the all-Russian Russian language forum was a sister site of a Russian forum which became ru.stackoverflow.com. So it was an existing community that was "imported".

I want to know Russian; it would be very useful for my studies (mathematics), but it also looks like it's going to take a lot of time to learn...

Can you read Russian?

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broccoli forest

11:33 AM

@Earthliŋ そうだったんですか

@Earthliŋ Cyrillic yes, Russian... no

but I'm learning Polish now

slowly...

12:04 PM

Looks like Russian Russian stackexchange is mainly used by Russians or people that know the language really well.

broccoli forest

was it a major forum in Russia before becoming SE?

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Anonymous

2:23 PM

@Earthliŋ We got a second question from our ALL CAPITAL friend: japanese.stackexchange.com/q/33866/1478

Anonymous

I deleted it rather than closing it.

2:50 PM

No idea, I've never heard of it before.

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3:58 PM

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この🍫屋さんの名前の読み方を教えてほしいんですが

Heigh's なんですけど

ハイス？　ヘイス？

ググったんですけど発音記号とか見つかりませんでした

Anonymous

4:22 PM

@chocolate I've never heard of it before, so I'm not sure. If you made me guess anyway, I'd pronounce it /heɪz/, not /heis/ (explanation here)

Anonymous

The Longman Pronunciation Dictionary lists:

Anonymous

> Haigh (placename) /heɪ/

Anonymous

> Haigh (family name) /heɪg/

Anonymous

So it could be /heɪgz/ instead!

Anonymous

Let's find an Australian and ask them :-)

4:25 PM

How many people actually understand stuff like /ʃ/, /tʃ/, /dʒ/, /ʒ/? :\ I have no idea how they sound.

Anonymous

@kuchitsu It's becoming more common! I'll explain.

I wish people answered qeustions about pronunciation with actual sound clips.

Anonymous

ʃ is the English "sh" sound.

Anonymous

tʃ is the English "ch" sound. It's actually a combination of the "t" sound and "sh" sounds, which is why it's written that way.

broccoli forest

@kuchitsu English has that, maybe Russian doesn't

4:26 PM

Ah, so pretty much all native English speakers are familiar with these?

Anonymous

I agree sound clips would be very useful, although Stack Exchange doesn't have a built-in way to handle them :-(

Anonymous

@kuchitsu Oh, definitely not. Most native speakers of English don't learn much about language in the first place. It's becoming more common for British English speakers to learn IPA, though. American English speakers are still usually unfamiliar with them.

In Russian we don't have stuff like that, the pronunciation is pretty much always clear from just seeing the word I think.

Anonymous

IPA is used in dictionaries for native speakers of British English these days.

Anonymous

American English dictionaries still use unreliable sound respelling systems.

Anonymous

4:28 PM

But it really all began with English taught as a foreign language, and dictionaries for learners. Learners are the ones who need IPA transcriptions most of the time.

I see. Now that I think about it, I think I've seen some of these symbols in school. But noone ever explained them to me. :P

Anonymous

But the IPA is very useful. It gives us an easy way to talk about the difference between the English and Japanese "sh" sounds, for example.

I'll have to learn this stuff I guess.

Anonymous

Of course, IPA isn't perfect, and it doesn't give us a complete description, but it's a useful tool you can use as part of an explanation :-)

Anonymous

@kuchitsu If you like! :-) Don't worry about learning every symbol. Try to learn the ones that you need as you go along.

broccoli forest

4:31 PM

@kuchitsu oh, what I meant was the sounds you listed don't exist in Russian

I've heard that in Korean the symbols kind of reflect the pronunciation.

broccoli forest

/ʃ/, /tʃ/, /dʒ/, /ʒ/

you mean hangul?

Anonymous

Yeah! It's a little bit more complicated than that because Korean has changed over time, but it's a very nice writing system :-)

Yeah hangul.

I don't know any other writing systems like that.

Anonymous

In linguistics, we can talk about shallow orthographies and deep orthographies.

broccoli forest

4:33 PM

yes it's very carefully designed one

Anonymous

English has a "deep" orthography, while Spanish has a "shallow" orthography.

broccoli forest

one of Hangul's advantage is that it can delimit sound and syllable at the same time

Anonymous

@chocolate I stole your question:

Anonymous

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Q: How is "Haigh's" pronounced in "Haigh's Chocolates"?

How is Haigh's pronounced here? I looked up Haigh in the Longman Pronunciation Dictionary, and I found two entries: Haigh (placename) /heɪ/ Haigh (family name) /heɪg/ So based on this, it seems like Haigh's could be either /heɪz/ or /heɪgz/, but I'm not sure. It seems to be an Aus...

broccoli forest

@snailboat sydney.navi.com/food/26

> ヘーグズ・チョコレート

4:38 PM

wow these bilbies are funny :)

at the bottom of the page

broccoli forest

oh I didn't read to that part :)

bilby = バンディクート huh

I only know them through a video game title

Ah. So I knew about them from that game too then.

broccoli forest

クラッシュ・バンディクー (ゲーム)

『クラッシュ・バンディクー』（Crash Bandicoot）は、ソニー・コンピュータエンタテインメントが発売したプレイステーション用のアクションゲーム。クラッシュ・バンディクーシリーズの第1作。 == 概要 == クラッシュ・バンディクーシリーズの1作目で、基本的な要素は完成しているものの、本作でのステージはマップ制になっていて2以降のように自由に選ぶことができないようになっているため、基本的に1本道で進むようになっている。ただし、本作のみの要素としてカギが隠されており、カギを入手することでマップ内に隠しステージへ行くルートが追加されてそこへ行くことができる。アクションは移動とジャンプとスピンアタックだけである。これは攻撃アクションの数を『ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグ』と『スーパードンキーコング』の中間の2つにしたかったからである。そのため、スピンアタックは本作のみ○ボタンでも使えるようになっている。ステージの序盤から難所の連続で、セーブが「タウナのボーナスチャレンジをクリアする」か「アイテムを入手する」(2種)の3つしかないため、シリーズの中で最も難しい作品になっている。また、タウナのボーナスチャレンジは一度失敗するとゲームオーバーにならない限り再挑戦できない。ボーナスチャレンジは欲張るとクリアが難しい構成になっているため、ボーナスを取るかセーブを取るかという取捨選...

Yeah that one.

broccoli forest

but I didn't play them

the commercial was very impressive as I remember

5:34 PM

@snailboat Not yet. I wish more people upvoted GoBusto's feature request

Anonymous

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Q: Embed an audio player

Questions about the pronunciation of a word as heard are probably common for a site for people learning a language. I can imagine questions similar to the following ones: I listened to this [link to an audio file, or a video] but I don't understand what word is being said at the beginning, and ...

feature-request

Anonymous

Related request on ELL

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Q: Allow audio uploads

I recently got stuck trying to discern whether a person in a video1 was saying 湯, 言う, or something else. I figured things out eventually, but it made me think about how I would ask about these situations on JL&U. My suggestion: Allow audio clips to be uploaded from within the Stack Exchange post...

feature-request

Anonymous

I'll leave them as comments on each other! :-)

I think it'd be useful for all language sites, and there are many now

@snailboat Good idea

Anonymous

5:36 PM

@Earthliŋ The thing is, they already have audio clip support on at least one non-language site.

Really? Where?

Anonymous

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Q: Can an embedded audio player be added to Audio.SE and Music.SE?

On the Audio and Music Meta, people are requesting the ability to embed audio into posts, this would be useful for the asker to let us hear audio he is having a problem with and good for us to easily give examples. This lead to a embedded audio player request on the audio meta and music meta bu...

feature-request status-completed audio

I'm not sure how this is working... I can't find it on music.stackexchange.com/questions/ask

Are you supposed to create an account with SoundCloud and upload the file there?

6:18 PM

Hello! Long time no see! I'd like to ask if there are any good resources covering different grammar patterns and quirks regarding Japanese dialects?

broccoli forest

日本言語地図 https://www.ninjal.ac.jp/publication/catalogue/laj_map/
方言文法全国地図 https://www.ninjal.ac.jp/publication/catalogue/gaj_map/

but I don't know much about "learning" resources

Anonymous

7:11 PM

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Q: How important is it to have an EQ pedal in your chain?

I have a Digitech Bad Monkey, which in my experience, is a very transparent pedal. I use it to mainly to boost my volumes during solos etc. But I've spoken to a few people, read at a few places that an EQ pedal is very handy and should be a part of one's rig. What...

electric-guitar guitar-effects

7:33 PM

@broccoliforest Thanks a bunch! Any idea if there's a legend for this grammar atlas? I have no idea how to use and decypher it.

8:13 PM

@snailboat Huh, works for me... I like it. I want it. =)

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10:33 PM

Hmm, my Firefox doesn't seem to like links to all metas like meta.english.stackexchange.com... It says "接続の安全性を確認できません".

Anonymous

10:49 PM

@kuchitsu Do you have "HTTPS Everywhere" installed?

Anonymous

Or alternatively, are you clicking a url with https:// rather than http:// in it?

Anonymous

HTTPS isn't supported on the meta sites yet.

Oh thanks. Works if I remove the "s" from the address.

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