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Anonymous

3:37 AM

@DariusJahandarie I thought I remembered there being some good research on that topic, but I can't point you to it off the top of my head.

Darius Jahandarie

@snailboat Thanks. No worries. Trying to figure out how to improve my accent...

(I seem to have no problem with sounds, and usually not word-level pitch accents, but my sentence-level prosody, like emphasis and such, is pretty out of whack.)

Anonymous

Just anecdotally, I think it helps to record yourself imitating a native speaker, then listen to your recording. Sometimes it makes it easier to identify what exactly the problems are.

Anonymous

I don't know. I'm just learning :-)

Darius Jahandarie

3:57 AM

I can identify some of my problems doing that, but usually it's too hard to tell what I'm doing wrong. It just "sounds wrong" sometimes. And when I listen to myself enough, it even stops sounding wrong.

It'd be nice if there was some software to help with this.

And in fact, there is! kaken.nii.ac.jp/pdf/2012/seika/C-19_1/32402/21320105seika.pdf

But it's for English learners. :-(

(And possibly just academic vaporware.)

virmaior

4:13 AM

I'm intrigued is Xのある場面 no replaceable by Xがある画面 ?

Anonymous

That depends on the rest of the sentence, doesn't it? Like, what X is, for example.

Anonymous

ある can also be a 連体詞

virmaior

I see

I may also be completely missing 思い出すのが . To me that seems equivalent in meaning to 思い出すのですが as "[it is] that which I remember" but your comment indicates it is not so

do we have any questions addressing that which I could review?

@DariusJahandarie there seems to be a shot of the magical software here: gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~mine/paper/PDF/2009/…

Anonymous

@virmaior It's a ga-cleft

Anonymous

homepage3.nifty.com/nhasegawa/pdf/Hasegawa-1997-Cleft.pdf

virmaior

4:23 AM

ahh, that is quite helpful

and wow, i should know that, rereading the sentence in question reminds me never to give drive-by suggestions

that is most definitely not replaceable by のですが in this context

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Schoko

7:15 AM

なにこれｗｗｗ

なにこれパート２ www

virmaior

7:44 AM

@Schoko のファンがいるらしいです。でも、システム的に許しているかどうか...

Schoko

わたしのじゃないです。ええとね、

yadokariさんと

Hyperwormさん

これ　japanese.stackexchange.com/users/706/yadokari?tab=reputation

と、これ　japanese.stackexchange.com/users/315/hyperworm?tab=reputation

あらっ！やどかりさん、ずいぶん長い間、お休みしてるんですねえ

たぶん、reverseされると思います、24時間くらいで。。。

virmaior

ダウンヴォテのreverseでしょう

でも、なぜそれは時間かかっているのが知らない

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Anonymous

10:50 PM

A: Why is 未来 read as あした?

明日 can be read as either あす or あした. あした is more common in speech, while あす is more common in prose (like poetry) and formal documents, as well as older texts. 未来 is normally read as みらい (音読み) of course, and occasionally みく (訓読み). Poetically, it's also あす, as you point out, but this is uncommon. ...