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4:53 AM
Does ずれる have kanji?
滑る?
 
ssb
this site says 滑れる
rather, that it used to be
but that kana only has been the standard for quite a while
 
I see.
Man, I wish I could read those articles.
I get so intimidated.
Also do きれいなの? And きれいなのに use the same の?
I talked to @snailboat about this once, but I forgot.
 
Anonymous
5:38 AM
I think so, but maybe you can understand のに as a unit
 
6:16 AM
Oh sure, but I thought you had said the の in のに was the nominalizing one, while the other one is the question one? @snailboat
 
Anonymous
I think of the question の as the same の
 
Well shucks.
So how did なのに come to mean despite (that's what it means, right?)?
@snailboat
 
6:35 AM
@Anthony のに can be a bit evil
 
lol
Okay, but in the common case of despite, why does it mean that?
 
Hmm... if forced to guess, I'd say it relates to に being a directional particle... "pointed in that direction" ~ "up against that idea"
But that is a totally uneducated guess
 
Ah.
 
I suspect snailplane is rummaging through a pile of academic papers for an authoritative answer.
 
6:53 AM
I think she had an answer though, I remember talking to her about it!
 
 
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Anonymous
4:36 PM
Ah, I'm not sure how to best explain it
 
Anonymous
Maybe if you ask on the site, someone more knowledgeable will post an answer :-)
 
Anonymous
8:20 PM
@Anthony Inflection is when a word has multiple forms that form a paradigm
 
Anonymous
Like English walk, walks, walked, walking
 
Anonymous
Those are all inflected forms of walk
 
Anonymous
> I walk to the store every day. (present tense)
 
Anonymous
> I walked to the store yesterday. (past tense)
 
Anonymous
The verb changes form to express tense (among other things)
 
Anonymous
8:24 PM
But we have an uninflected form, too:
 
Anonymous
> I demand that he walk to the store immediately!
 
Anonymous
If this were inflected, it would change form to walks to agree with he
 
Anonymous
But in this type of mandative, we don't inflect the verb
 

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