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msh210

5:09 AM

All: Delete judaism.stackexchange.com/a/26242?

(Ping @HodofHod, who's listed as present.)

HodofHod

@msh210 Hmm. Did we delete the lighthearted ones on the earlier ones? Or is that only policy going forward?

msh210

@HodofHod Definitely going forward, and I've gone back and deleted some of the more blatantly non-serious ones. My only hesitation about this one is that, well, it's lighthearted, yes, but technically correct and topical.

HodofHod

Not a particularly Jewish fact, yuntiff notwithstanding.

msh210

5:26 AM

@HodofHod Not particularly, no.

Well, you can debate the issue with the wall. Sorry to post and run, but I've gtg. Good night!

HodofHod

@msh210 I'd vote to delete if I could. I think yes.

msh210

@HodofHod Can't you? What's the cutoff?

HodofHod

@msh210 20000

msh210

@HodofHod Man, oh, man. We need some more high-rep users....

Good night.

HodofHod

@msh210 Indeed. We only have 7 users above 20,000. two are mods and 1 is inactive.

What's our local policy on meta-tags?

seems we have some lomdus for example.

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yay!

msh210

5:50 AM

@HodofHod Tags as described in the linked-to blog post are explicitly discouraged by SE and we cannot locally override that no matter whether we want to, I think. I think the intent of lomdus was not to be the sort of tag describedin that blog post (though I don't have time now to check the questions and see whether that's what it's become). Okay, goodbye, for real now.

HodofHod

Goodbye :)

Isaac Moses

6:14 AM

@HodofHod Me, too.

judaism.stackexchange.com/badges/54/announcer in 10 ... 9 ... 8 ....

Double AA

6:28 AM

@msh210 Tell that to mi-yodeya-series.

Isaac Moses

3:09 PM

@IsaacMoses ... ? ... don't know what the engine is waiting for ...

Isaac Moses

4:21 PM

Oh, I see that many of those views may have come from stackexchange.com/questions

Monica Cellio

4:42 PM

@IsaacMoses wow. I wonder what makes a question "hot"? (I can guess at inputs to the formula, but, say, why that purim-torah question among the others, for instance?)

BTW I linked to that question on G+ last night, but I don't imagine that will have a big effect. (No Announcer badge yet. :-) )

Isaac Moses

@MonicaCellio Here's to both of us getting Announcer. I think that'd be the first time two people get it on one question. When I saw the view count exploding, I was all excited about getting the first Booster, but oh, well.

Monica Cellio

@IsaacMoses patience... it may yet come. :-) It'd be cool if we both got Announcer.

Isaac Moses

@MonicaCellio Don't know for sure, but it's got +13 and 4 favorites right now, which is pretty good for us. Here's our local hot list.

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A: How are "Hot" Questions Selected?

What Formula Should Be Used To Determine "hot" Questions? Based on my analysis of the above and the comments so far, here's the second version of what I have implemented so far. This might suck. I don't know: (log(Qviews)*4) + ((Qanswers * Qscore)/5) + sum(Ascores) ----------...

... so it helps that it has 5 answers with a combined score of +29

HodofHod

5:05 PM

So um, did anybody else have trouble getting Facebook to find the right thumbnail?

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod Yes.

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses And the title starts off with the tag name. that's frustrating.

I know that's the intended behavior for browsers; I wonder if they can customize it for facebook?

Monica Cellio

@HodofHod I find that frustrating too (not just facebook).

HodofHod

@MonicaCellio Yeah, me too. But they've said that's not going to change

developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/og/…

terrible.

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Q: Share on facebook shows the low-ranking designed title tag

The title looks weird "history - Who is..."; given that it's going to facebook, the chances of it being farmed would be pretty low (I only have 71 "friends"), and it reads really weirdly. Should the FB Share titles be changed back to the normal, un-adultered titles? For the record, I know why...

msh210

5:43 PM

@HodofHod After you paste the URL and FB converts it to a title, you can edit the title before posting. (IME. YMMV.)

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HodofHod

@msh210 Well I'll be a Monkey's uncle

Thanks!

msh210

@HodofHod b'shaa tova umutzlachas

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@HodofHod Welcs!

HodofHod

6:03 PM

Incidentally, when you share a link on Facebook, you have the ability to edit the title and description before hitting the "Share Link" button. credit to @msh210 — HodofHod 15 mins ago

msh210

@HodofHod bringing the world redemption

HodofHod

@msh210 says who?

:)

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod כמאן?

msh210

@HodofHod :-) Rabi Y'hoshua ben Levi? (Really not sure. That's my best recollection.)

HodofHod

אמר רבי אלעזר בשם רבי חנינא "כל האומר דבר בשם אומרו, מביא גאולה לעולם" (מגילה טו, א).

I also forgot, had to google it.

msh210

6:19 PM

@HodofHod Thanks. So much for my memory.

HodofHod

you and me both :(

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod Gotta keep that string handy, since, as you point out, any less complete reference to this concept is inherently hypocritical

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses Hm. Not sure. Do I have to credit R' Yehuda Hanassi, since I know it primarily from Avos?

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod How to Ask :)

HodofHod

Also, just realized that it's very topical, since Rabbi Elazar learns it from Esther telling Achashverosh b'shem Mordechai. Do I have to quote them? Is there a never-ending recursion?

Oh Noes!!

Isaac Moses

6:26 PM

@HodofHod Seriously, this sounds like a so-so real question and/or an excellent purim-torah-in-jest question in the making. If you don't ask it, I will.

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses I may ask it as a serious question. Not sure how I would formulate a PT one, but if you'd like to do that, go ahead!

msh210

@HodofHod As a real question, though, it seems applicable to anything recounted, not just this saying.

HodofHod

@msh210 Of course. But do you have to quote this saying every time you recount something totally different?

msh210

@HodofHod Why would you?

HodofHod

@msh210 "random saying" -by random person, quoted because of the teaching of R; Elazar in the name of R' Chanina in the name of Esther.....

Isaac Moses

6:32 PM

@msh210 True, but this makes for a good example.

@HodofHod Nah. Then every time we do a mitzva, we'd have to say a "besheim rabim" before doing it, after the "lesheim yichud"

msh210

@HodofHod I imagine that if you're anyway saying "mevi g'ula laolam" then you should say who said so, but if you're not saying "mevi g'ula laolam" anyway then why would you say "mevi g'ula laolam"?

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod The PT question would proceed from the assumption that the reductio ad absurdum is correct

Double AA

@HodofHod I'm pretty sure the statement is not always attributed the same way. (Somewhere in Chullin I think...)

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses Right, but if I were to write it, it would probably be asking what's the correct chain of tradition, and that doesn't seem like it would inspire interesting responses.

Double AA

Of, course that shouldn't be surprising because we're still in galus :(

Isaac Moses

6:37 PM

@DoubleAA "We're doing it wrong."

HodofHod

@msh210 Turns out your memory wasn't faulty at all. The Mishna in Avos 6 _does- quote R' Yehoshua ben Levi!!

chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1178794/jewish/…

msh210

@HodofHod Woohoo!

HodofHod

mishna 6, but R' YBL starts at mishna 2

msh210

@HodofHod b'raisa btw

@HodofHod I wonder whether it's still him.

@HodofHod But I think I was remembering RYBL from M'gila. (Incorrectly.)

Double AA

@HodofHod Likely not an original Mishna then. RYBL is an amora.

It's quoted by Ben Azai in Kallah 1 and by R Eliezer ben Dahavai in Kallah Rabbati 2

msh210

6:44 PM

@DoubleAA b'shem someone further?

Double AA

@msh210 Nope.

@IsaacMoses I think we should be machmir and list all these names every time. Otherwise we will be stuck here in galus.

msh210

2 mins ago, by Double AA

@IsaacMoses I think we should be machmir and list all these names every time. Otherwise we will be stuck here in galus.

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA Bediyuk! As I said, this can be either a serious or a PT question. In addition, it could be an answer to judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/15000/…

msh210

@msh210 Whoever says something in the name of whoever said it previously brings redemption to the world, so I guess we should do so whenever we can.

Isaac Moses

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2 mins ago, by Double AA

@IsaacMoses I think we should be machmir and list all these names every time. Otherwise we will be stuck here in galus.

msh210

6:52 PM

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43 secs ago, by msh210

2 mins ago, by Double AA

@IsaacMoses I think we should be machmir and list all these names every time. Otherwise we will be stuck here in galus.

Double AA

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@DoubleAA Hello.

I think I'm Yotzei.

@IsaacMoses I had thought of reopening that to use for my Wash Tea bit, but I used it for msh210's question instead.

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA <Checks english.thekotel.org/cameras.asp > Nope. Still in galut.

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Double AA

@HodofHod Aren't you a research assistant yet? I feel like I've approved bazillions of your tag wiki edits.

HodofHod

@DoubleAA <checks> got 5 more.

@IsaacMoses People still use WMP plugins for online video????

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod "minhag avoteinu beyadeinu" (Also, I don't actually have that plugin installed here myself, so my claim to have checked the cam was not entirely true.)

Double AA

7:04 PM

@IsaacMoses Haha I didn't download it either. I relied on you!

Isaac Moses

OK, here: