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12:35 AM
This question has been substantially edited since it was put on hold, and it wasn't a duplicate to begin with (current close reason). The question appears to make some faulty assumptions, but we've allowed that before (and answers can correct those errors). Any reason not to reopen this?
 
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For the record, I didn't VTC as duplicate. I think it was either too broad or primarily opinion based.
Also, it wasn't supposed to be closed as a duplicate:
@Shalom This isn't at all a duplicate question. You have a gold badge in halacha so your dupe votes in that tag are binding. Please be careful in the future. I'm leaving this closed for now as a rant, which is what the other close voters voted for. I have low expectations of it being reopened. — Double AA ♦ 11 hours ago
 
@Shokhet right. But it was, and pre-edit it was close-worthy for other reasons. While we could reopen in order to reclose for other reasons, I think it's now within the range where, were it newly asked, we wouldn't close it. So I'm asking about reopening.
 
Okay.
Still reading the question/revisions.
@DoubleAA Thinks that it still should be closed, FWIW:
@bach I don't care much if you ask for my approval or not. The question has serious problems. Fix it or it'll probably remain closed. — Double AA ♦ 3 hours ago
(AFAICT that was after the most recent edit)
@MonicaCellio My opinion: not a duplicate, but I don't think should be reopened. Nobody thinks it's a good question, even now (judging from the score of +0/-4), and I feel that it may be on the wrong side of the tznius line for this site. I agree with Double AA that it's probably still a rant, and I'm waiting till tomorrow when (I think) I'll be able to vote to delete the question (because of the tznius issues).
 
12:57 AM
@Shokhet thanks for taking a look and providing your feedback. It appears the OP, a new user, is trying to address our concerns, so I wanted to see if he was there yet. If anybody can offer him constructive guidance on the current version of the question, please do.
 
@MonicaCellio That's fair. I'll try to distill my issues with the post into an actionable comment, and see what happens.
 
@Shokhet thanks for your help. (Others who see this discussion should please weigh in, too.)
 
@MonicaCellio Oh, my pleasure.
I think it's really important to be helpful and supportive of new users, especially when they're trying to fit in and contribute constructively.
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4:06 AM
@Shokhet that is a nice sentiment but when the first welcome many users get is a feverish rush to find every reason their question is badly formed what do you expect to happen?
 
4:20 AM
posted on April 26, 2017

Today is fifteen days, which is two weeks and one day of the Omer. Today's attribute: Chesed ShebeTiferes

 
 
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5:03 PM
I don't see how judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/82130 is on-topic.
@Shokhet "Do two houses suffice for 'he has many houses available free' so squatting is free?"
@HodofHod Thanks to your chat message for the idea and to SE's (desktop-version) design, now I can finally remember which side is starboard.
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@BSteinhurst You make a fair point, but I'm not usually part of that feverish rush. I try to leave polite and useful comments. (If you think my comments need improvement, I'm willing to listen)
The site is trying to improve on that front; I was discussing a meta post about that with Isaac sometime in the last week or two in this room.
@msh210 That's not what the question is asking. I don't think there should be a lower bound on the number of houses for "he has houses available." I want to know if a squatter can use House A for free because he has free access to House B, when his free access to House B is free only because he can use House A for free.
(Is the post unclear? Should I edit to clarify?)
 
5:46 PM
@msh210 Nice!
@msh210 Does MHRK print anything other than Judaism? If not, then asking about their output is asking about Judaism. I agree with your comment there that the motivation isn't strong, but it seems facially on-topic to me.
 
@msh210 Yeah... that was totally intentional. Totally
(I usually don't take 2+ years to realize when I've made an unintentional pun....)
 
 
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8:26 PM
Also: Reminder to close-voters: The problem cannot be fixed if the OP is not made aware of it. — Frostfyre 6 hours ago
 
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8:56 PM
@Shokhet I don't see the difference between what you said and what I said. The g'mara says you can stay in a house because others are available. Your question (about staying in A because B is available and in B because A is) applies even to the g'mara's case of many houses: can he stay in A because B, …, Z are available; in B because A, C, …, Z are; …; in Y because A, …, X, Z are; and in Z because A, …, Y are? The [cont'd]
[cont'd] g'mara answers yes. You're wondering whether the same applies when it's just two houses. No?
@IsaacMoses I have no idea (to answer your question). They may print biography of Jews, for example.
 
@MonicaCellio In retrospect I think I should have opened and closed again from the outset, as the OP seems particularly bugged by it's being marked "dupe" when it isn't. Having the correct close reason can help users see what to fix.
 
@IsaacMoses Even if they only print Judaism books, the question should say so.
 
@msh210 Not exactly. I assume that the case discussed by the gemara is one in which he has illegal access to A, but it's free because he has legal access to B. See Rashi, there, who discusses borrowing and owning:
> לפי שמצויין לו בתים להשאיל או יש לו בית אחר
 
@msh210 I agree that the question ought to be improved for clarity and that even then, it won't be a particularly compelling question. However, having taken a quick look at MHRK's website (in particular, its topic-headings), combined with my impression of the many times I've come into contact with their books, it seems reasonable to me to consider their stock in trade to be Judaism and to consider a question asking about it to be a question about Judaism.
 
@Shokhet Ah! I hadn't caught that.
 
9:04 PM
@msh210 I wonder if that's what confused the other commenters as well. I'm editing the question now.
To return to our earlier discussion; do you have a better name for the question? :)
 
@Shokhet Much clearer now.
@Shokhet Not at the moment, sorry.
 
@msh210 Thank you
 
@IsaacMoses Fair enough. It really should be edited to mention that, though. I'd even cast a non-binding closure vote as off-topic if it doesn't, I think.
 
@msh210 I've edited it.
 
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