Welp, Dalton has contacted me as my document isn't compling right

Realized it is PROBABLY the error thrown that goes away if you let it finish then compile agian

So I think easiest mode is going to be manually stop dong more then onerefrence in each \ref

OH GOOD

I just had to change \refcmpd to \cmpd when using lists it looks like

No idea why

@TeXnician I think the new version of typoaid is now on the TeXLive pretest

@Moriambar Not yet for me (on hmc.edu mirror) :|

@TeXnician eheh. I made the code unreadable just for you

@Moriambar I've read the new documentation on CTAN. I like your section about what went "wrong". Big agenda for the next release ;)

@TeXnician that mirror is not as up to date as teh Czech one

@Moriambar Maybe, but I just selected one randomly for the installation. Too lazy to change now. However I think it will be on my one too within the next day.

@TeXnician eheh I wanted to make everyone know that I know that the code has issues, and that I want to address them. Too many people helped and I did not want to let them down or to make them think I did not want their help.

@Moriambar Yeah, btw: very minimalistic changelog.

it's just that I wanted to release the new functionalities (which were what I was after when I created the package)

@UlrikeFischer Thanks for your comment re hyperref urls with #. I am on TL16 with hyperref.sty 2017/03/14 v6.85a Hypertext links for LaTeX and get no errors running pdflatex on a terminal. tex.stackexchange.com/a/366941/15925

@TeXnician It's an "alpha" package. I'm bound to make many changes day by day... I don't want to clutter anything with a changelog, especially when I do not commit the code consistently. As said in the docs, that will change after v.1.0.0

@Moriambar I really understand that. But it looks funny ;)

@TeXnician It's a package nobody will use. It's not to be taken seriously. Btw I have something else new in mind: example pages...

@Moriambar Good idea (but please also with some math) and I have another one: Scan the font directory and list fonts that would with current setup (font size, margins) would be optimal (but that's Lua based again).

@TeXnician lua is coming, trust me. Math is irrelevant, imo, in the sense that with TeX system, I feel taht once the text is correctly set, math will follow

@AndrewSwann Hm. Can you show your log-file?

@Moriambar I meant more that something which breaks through the text (e.g. a displaystyle formula in the middle) would be a good idea to see how the page and font setup influences its positioning.

@TeXnician Yes it can. I may include an optional parameter (with math, nomath). But this will come after the code is settled :)

@AndrewSwann And are you sure that you uncommented the "fail"-version? When I get such misterious "wrong" compilation results it is normally because I'm not compiling what I think I'm compiling ...

@Moriambar We'll see. Probably you should make a list of all those proposals. In the near future you'll not know where to start anymore ;)

@TeXnician I will. But first things first: I have to watch the snooker final in these days :)

@Moriambar Ah yes, very important.

@UlrikeFischer Now I see it - the # was escaped !

@AndrewSwann Well there you have escape the hash: \#. This naturally works, the "fail" is without it

@AndrewSwann Uff, my trust has been restored ;-)

@UlrikeFischer Mine too - sorry for the trouble.

@UlrikeFischer I have now deleted my comments on that question/answer.

@Moriambar I have packages that I wrote for fun and no one would use and they still occur here and elsewhere generating support queries 20 years later. beware people use stuff even if the only documentation you put in the package is do not use this.

lol. I heard this a lot, but in order for a package to be used someone has to promote it. I don't think people have the time (nowadays) to roam around ctan and read all of the packages names and usages. Maybe it was the case 20 years ago when the package were considerably less

@Moriambar random so called friends putting the package in books doesn't help:-)

@DavidCarlisle ahah well who here would put typoaid in a book? Only you know about its existence

@Moriambar perhaps @TeXnician is writing a book:-)

@DavidCarlisle about LaTeX packages? Perhaps.

@DavidCarlisle I'll have to strive to make my package incompatible with KOMA then... from what I hear is not that difficult :P

@DavidCarlisle you will be proud to hear that I'm trying to use emacs for normal l2 programming. Sounds fine, it may need adjusting but I can feel the power and usability

@Moriambar @PauloCereda will be so pleased

@DavidCarlisle you will be proud to hear that I'm trying to use emacs for normal l2 programming. Sounds fine, it may need adjusting but I can feel the power and usability

@Moriambar don't forget to try M-x hanoi and M-x doctor two useful functions that vim doesn't have.

@DavidCarlisle oy

Yesterday I took the influenza vaccine. Now I am feeling sick. :(

@PauloCereda That's what happens if you don't use emacs.

@DavidCarlisle I will do, tonight, because now I'm at work. Anyway "typing text in a useful way" is the main functionality that vim lacks. Also usability and reason to exist

@PauloCereda whoa. You'd better watch some snooker then

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@Moriambar they don't broadcast it around here. :)

@PauloCereda neither they do here

@PauloCereda there's this internet thing

@PauloCereda especially the red button but this year I managed

@Moriambar oh

@DavidCarlisle it will never catch on

@egreg ^^ :)

@PauloCereda :)

@PauloCereda I beg to differ: at 7:50 when I woke up it was snowing

Damn you influenza

@Moriambar It's not my fault, it's spring somewhere. :)

@PauloCereda hmm well maybe :)

Friends, we have a situation:

@PauloCereda better than my answer

@DavidCarlisle Nope. :)

@DavidCarlisle you could mention Lua is Brazilian, hence it's cool. :)

@PauloCereda, @DavidCarlisle Good morning. Excuse me. but there are two similar questions tex.stackexchange.com/questions/367158/header-page-book-in-tikz and another of the same user.

@egreg Good morning, prof.

@Moriambar @ChristianHupfer Good morning

@Sebastiano Good morning. I'm on the train, this afternoon lecture on tables in LaTeX.

@egreg whoa! That's a lecture I would attend to. I feel I have much to learn about tables, since I haven't used many during the years…

@Sebastiano helo

@egreg bonus points if you get to the end without mentioning any of my packages

@DavidCarlisle is booktabs yours too?

@Sebastiano you can just vote to close the unanswered one (which is now closed)

@Moriambar no, it doesn't support coloured vertical rules.

@DavidCarlisle oh, I see... I always use that one. The other tabular packages I do not use very frequently. but again, I do not use vertical rules :P

Do you support triple vertical rules?

@Moriambar It could be arranged. Do you want three different colours, or is one enough?

@DavidCarlisle I want different colours between each couple of vertical rules

@DavidCarlisle (seriously) is there a specific LaTeX-emacs tutorial you would recommend? I feel its power but have to learn how to harness it

@Moriambar I learned emacs via the emacs and elisp manuals circa 1987 and auctex via its built in help and code as it was developed (in early 90s I guess) I have no idea what the current state of tutorials is. Basically I'd d C-h i to get into info mode and then read the autex entry there (which is very extensive)

@DavidCarlisle ok then. I think in a bit I will try some editors to see which I like best. Aquamacs seems realyl nice. The only downside is that still I don't understand how to make it work with the elisp scripts (the one for L3)...

@DavidCarlisle you are old experienced.

File: auctex.info,  Node: Top,  Next: Copying,  Up: (dir)

AUCTeX
******

This manual may be copied under the conditions spelled out in *note
Copying this Manual::.

   AUCTeX is an integrated environment for editing LaTeX, ConTeXt,
docTeX, Texinfo, and TeX files.

   Although AUCTeX contains a large number of features, there are no
reasons to despair.  You can continue to write TeX and LaTeX documents
the way you are used to, and only start using the multiple features in
small steps.  AUCTeX is not monolithic, each feature described in this

@DavidCarlisle I will jealously keep colortbl a secret.

@egreg I will wear a tee next year with mentions to David's packages. :)

@PauloCereda or you can come here, I go out for a weekend, it was snowing there yesterday and night temperatures shall be down to -1C :)

@yo' oh no, where's the spring?

@PauloCereda well, the freeze killed our apricots :(

@yo' oh no

@PauloCereda yes :(

@Moriambar as requested.

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{colortbl}

\setlength\arrayrulewidth{1pt}

%Rules
\newcolumntype{R}[1]{!{{\color[snooker]{#1}\vline}}}

%Gaps
\newcolumntype{G}[1]{!{\hskip-\doublerulesep
{\color[snooker]{#1}\vrule width \doublerulesep}%
\hskip-\doublerulesep}}

\makeatletter
% new colour model
\def\color@snooker#1#2{%
 \edef#1{
\ifcase#2\or 1 .9 0 \or 0 1 0\or .5 .2 0\or 0 0 1\or 1 .2 .4\else 0 0 0\fi\space rg
\ifcase#2\or 1 .9 0 \or 0 1 0\or .5 .2 0\or 0 0 1\or 1 .2 .4\else 0 0 0\fi\space RG

@DavidCarlisle Oh my! I knew you would do it. In any case you have to guess how many things you are using that I did not know about or know not how to use :D

oops I can't count to 7

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{colortbl}

\setlength\arrayrulewidth{1pt}

%Rules
\newcolumntype{R}[1]{!{{\color[snooker]{#1}\vline}}}

%Gaps
\newcolumntype{G}[1]{!{\hskip-\doublerulesep
{\color[snooker]{#1}\vrule width \doublerulesep}%
\hskip-\doublerulesep}}

\makeatletter
% new colour model
\def\color@snooker#1#2{%
 \edef#1{
\ifcase#2\or 1 0 0\or 1 .9 0 \or 0 1 0\or .5 .2 0\or 0 0 1\or 1 .2 .4\else 0 0 0\fi\space rg
\ifcase#2\or 1 0 0\or 1 .9 0 \or 0 1 0\or .5 .2 0\or 0 0 1\or 1 .2 .4\else 0 0 0\fi\space RG

@PauloCereda @Moriambar general knowledge quizz: what color is \color[snooker]{6} ?

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@DavidCarlisle they were 6.

@DavidCarlisle aubergine

@PauloCereda nope: pink :-)

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle indeed, I'm expecting: red 1, yellow 2, green 3, brown 4, blue 5, pink 6, black 7, undefined 8 :D

@PauloCereda ^^^ you need to watch more snooker.

@DavidCarlisle I told him; he won't listen. Nevertheless... he thinks vim is modern

@Moriambar 0 white (cue)

@yo' that's more -4 (which could be added to the above definition...)

@DavidCarlisle well, each of the balls could be max(-value, -4) :)

@yo' @DavidCarlisle is correct the cue is -4

@yo' in case of a free ball a colour could also have a value of 1 if potted so the formula does not work well

langweilig

@PauloCereda well that's what happens when you don't use emacs: flu and finding snooker talk boring

@Moriambar why don't you see the emacs doctor? Oh wait, you probably don't know about it.

@PauloCereda I do not use emacs. I'm considering it

@Moriambar well, colour c>4 can have any value of -7, -6, ..., -c-1, -c, 0, 1, c. Colour c<=4 could be any value of -7, -6, -5, -4, 0, 1, c. Red can be -7, -6, -5, -4, 0, 1

@Moriambar and your point was?

@PauloCereda snooker is not boring. It's just the flu that makes you think so

@Moriambar Snooker might be boring for some people and exciting for others.

@PauloCereda I think it's boring for most of the people who know about it :)

@yo' I'm working, so I'll have to trust you

@Moriambar Sorry, my current publication (institution only) is about LaTeX, but only for beginners, not the scope of your package.

@Moriambar Then I'd fork it and reestablish compatibility!

@TeXnician ooh :)

@TeXnician yeee my package unusefulness is safe!

@TeXnician lol

@DavidCarlisle, @JosephWright would you say greatly vary or vary greatly?

@PauloCereda vary greatly

@JosephWright Thank you!

@Moriambar No, but I do not see that your package is useful for beginners, which shall learn structured writing with LaTeX (not layout).

@Moriambar I plan an advanced user guide (later on this year), maybe I'll take it into consideration to write about your package too...

@TeXnician Oh god... I don't think it would be useful to many people

@UlrikeFischer that happens when the \blank command with a width of more than one line is used inside a box… I've noticed that often but have never tried to find out why, yet

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{exsheets}
\begin{document}
\begin{minipage}{5cm}
  \blank[width=1.1\linewidth]{}
\end{minipage}
\end{document}

Hello all! :)

@DavidCarlisle Yes, a feature I miss desperately ;-)

@clemens: Hi Clemens!

@ChristianHupfer do you think I should post that snooker colour package to ctan?

@DavidCarlisle Is it full of bugs features? Then the answer is yes ;-)

@ChristianHupfer you will love snooker package

@DavidCarlisle I vote YAY

@DavidCarlisle only if you write a nice documentation. :)

@Moriambar Probably to the same extent as I love fractures, D. T....p, titlesec, Kim Jong Un, KOMA and classicthesis ;-)

@PauloCereda colourful and with a snooker table drawn in the picture environment

@DavidCarlisle: I owe one of the L3 blokes who come next year for TUG a beer if you include a duck in the documentation!

@ChristianHupfer which one is titlesec? It's the one for customizing section titles? You know better?

@Moriambar s/customizing/.... yes, that one ;-)

@ChristianHupfer Oh, I think I used it then… did not know how to do any better. Worked like a charm

@clemens @UlrikeFischer I'd guess you want something like this (with \hfil and \hfilneg added)

\cs_new_protected:Npn \__exsheets_blank_skip:N #1
  {
    \bool_if:NTF \l__exsheets_blank_width_bool
      { \dim_set:Nn \l__exsheets_tmpa_dim {#1} }
      {
        \fp_set:Nn \l__exsheets_tmpa_fp
          { \dim_to_fp:n {#1} * \l__exsheets_blank_scale_tl }
        \dim_set:Nn \l__exsheets_tmpa_dim { \fp_to_dim:N \l__exsheets_tmpa_fp }
      }
    \dim_compare:nTF
      { \l__exsheets_tmpa_dim > \l__exsheets_blank_line_minimum_length_dim }
      {
        \mode_if_math:TF
          { \exsheets_write_blank:n { \skip_horizontal:N \l__exsheets_tmpa_dim } }

@DavidCarlisle @clemens will probably want this. I'm more interested to know how this pattern is written to the terminal ;-)

@Moriambar Evilsec or titlevil ;-)

@UlrikeFischer it's just an underfull box with lots of empty boxes so the usual box output [] | [] | repeated lots of times

Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 6--6
|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|   []|

@ChristianHupfer Oh, I see… I will think of something else when I need to redraw my section headings then

@Moriambar That's your decision. I don't use that package.

@ChristianHupfer I trust your judgment

@DavidCarlisle thanks

@UlrikeFischer I originally picked this up on de.comp.text.tex where the macro was defined for smaller widths groups.google.com/d/msg/de.comp.text.tex/fZLwraH04jE/…

@PauloCereda Hi Paulo :)

@DavidCarlisle It was the | that I couldn't reproduce. But now I found that this is from the \vrule in the \uline code. With \hbox to 10cm{\mbox{}\vrule \hskip1cm \mbox{} \mbox{}} one get a similar output.

@Moriambar It's a personal dislike, not a real judgement

@UlrikeFischer oh sorry yes, | is a rule.

@DavidCarlisle This looks like the new picture mode. The challenge is to output a duck ...

@UlrikeFischer that's unfair, you've probably ruined my bank holiday weekend now

@DavidCarlisle ;-) And I should finish a documentation. With luatex it is easier. Then one has only one font description at the begin: \TU/lmr/m/n/10 --/\__[] []

           [][][]
         ||[][][]
                [][][][]          []
                 [][][][][][][][][]
                 [][][][][][][][][]

@UlrikeFischer ^^^ vvv

\def\s#1{ \ifnum#1>1 \s{\numexpr#1-1}\fi}
\def\b#1{\null\ifnum#1>1 \b{\numexpr#1-1}\fi}
\def\l#1{\vrule\ifnum#1>1 \l{\numexpr#1-1}\fi}

\hbox to \maxdimen{\endlinechar-1
\s{80}
\s{10}
\b{3}
\s{71}
\l{2}
\b{3}
\s{78}
\b{4}
\s{10}
\b{1}
\s{60}
\b{9}
\s{61}
\b{9}
\s{80}


}

\bye

@DavidCarlisle Neat!!! @PauloCereda: ducks in the log!

@UlrikeFischer oooooooooooooh

<3

@Moriambar titlesec is not a bad package. But is incompatible with the KOMA-Script classes which is why some users like me don't use it. I don't know why @ChristianHupfer doesn't use it – also because of KOMA?

@clemens None of both ;-)

@ChristianHupfer so why do you dislike titlesec?

@clemens Personally, i find the documentation very confusing.

@clemens It's a dislike. Like I don't like football or beer or prawns... or smoking...

@ChristianHupfer pineapple pizza?

@ChristianHupfer Templates?

@Johannes_B true. That can be a reason for not using a package. For example I never looked more into etoc because of its manual…

@DavidCarlisle \seq_put_right:Nn \g_the_big_dislike_seq {pineapplepizza} ;-)

@clemens How about minitoc? Or tabu ;-)

@Johannes_B Yes, that as well

@ChristianHupfer :) I don't like football either. But I do like beer

@Johannes_B Perfect examples.

@Johannes_B Oh, tabu. A work of art! :)

@clemens Mh, beer </homerSimpson>

@clemens No worries ...

@clemens :-)

@ChristianHupfer never if I can have a beer. Or – even better – some good scotch whisky ;)

@clemens I have come to know that there are a few packages incompatible with KOMA… but I have no interest in KOMA whatsoever

@DavidCarlisle you are in love with pineapple pizza just as much as @Johannes_B is in love with templates

@ChristianHupfer ok. gotcha

@DavidCarlisle ^^^^ this is for you :D

@DavidCarlisle This package implements a flexibable (colortbl documentation abstract)

@Moriambar stop reading documentation, no good will come of it!

@Moriambar and colured on the same line, this is obviously caused by confusion over which letter to drop to look more American. I blame @barbarabeeton

@DavidCarlisle I was looking to the question above and it came natural to read the colortbldoc :)

@DavidCarlisle lol

colured I missed

Does TL run on Linux installed on Intel Atom CPU device?

@ChristianHupfer Underlying OS?

I fail English.

@PauloCereda Linux... as I wrote

@ChristianHupfer Oh sorry. Yes it does work.

$ git push
Counting objects: 4, done.
Delta compression using up to 8 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done.
Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 361 bytes | 0 bytes/s, done.
Total 4 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0)
remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (3/3), completed with 3 local objects.
To git@github.com:davidcarlisle/dpctex.git
   3925c6a..38b3911  master -> master

@Moriambar ^

@PauloCereda Thanks... only out of interest, I am not really considering buying a netbook with Intel Atom CPU

@DavidCarlisle =)

@ChristianHupfer Don't do that, i's a living hell. I can vouch. :)

@PauloCereda Most likely TL runs on an Washing maching with Linux as embedded device ;-)

@ChristianHupfer I had TL2009 running on my Wii once!

@Moriambar guess what's starting now....

@PauloCereda Did you control it with the Nunchuk? ;-)

@DavidCarlisle already watching the pre-match

@ChristianHupfer I wish, I had to plug a USB keyboard

MC Rob Walker

@DavidCarlisle flexibable

@PauloCereda flexibable? Flexibubble ...

@DavidCarlisle thanks anyway ;)

@DavidCarlisle Ooh, git

Is there a way to \scalebox a align environment? :)

@PauloCereda You can do it with aligned.

@TorbjørnT. Thanks! Looking at it. :)

@PauloCereda align in a minipage can go in scalebox

@PauloCereda excuses excuses

@DavidCarlisle hi David. How can i close a question?

greetings to everybody

@Sebastiano ?

@Sebastiano there is a close button and you vote to close then it takes 5 people to vote close before it closes.

@DavidCarlisle In this morning there are two similar questions. On the question I see share flag and another that in this moment I not remember.

@Sebastiano you mentioned it, so I closed the 1st one (which had no answer) it only takes one vote to close if you have a gold badge for that tag

@Sebastiano oh do you need more rep, let me see...

@DavidCarlisle When I write something to you remember I always tell you the truth

@Sebastiano what did you say that for?

@Sebastiano you need a bit more rep 3000 tex.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/close-questions

@DavidCarlisle In this period I am committed to building a book and I do not dedicate much to the site to provide answers. Some are very difficult for me

@DavidCarlisle I did not know. Help me get to 3000 points :)))

@Sebastiano No I meant why the reference to truth? No one accused you of lying.

@DavidCarlisle I said in general. What has always taught me my dear dad who is not there anymore. I miss you a lot and I do not mind you crying every day.

@DavidCarlisle I made you see a part of the book I'm doing. The mt2pro \ tau does not like it. But could you change it? the \ pi I don't like

@Sebastiano no really it is just crazy. Pick a font and accept the font designer's design or chose another font. A font is designed as a coherent work not something to pick and choose.

@DavidCarlisle Do you understand the difference between t and tau? They are very similar

@Sebastiano difference is clear enough, presumably you intended them to be similar when you chose t and tau as the variables, you could have chosen t and theta or t and v or anything else.

@DavidCarlisle If you are feeling tomorrow maybe. Tomorrow I'm at school and the kids have an assembly. I would have to correct so many checks unfortunately

@DavidCarlisle Do you think the work I'm doing is good or bad?

@Sebastiano I haven't the faintest idea:-)

@DavidCarlisle ok. At tomorrow. good night

@Sebastiano \captionof is a perfectly valid latex command - no need to edit in spaces

@samcarter not again :(

@DavidCarlisle have you watched the game? It was brilliant!

A nice occupation on Friday evening (local time):

Spot the CMOS battery of a notebook and replace it ;-)

@Moriambar saw quite a bit of it:-)

@DavidCarlisle liked it?

@ChristianHupfer oh my!

@Moriambar It was of course the notebook, not my desktop computer ... 50 weird screws, disassembly of the keyboard/touchpad and weird cables at even more weird positions and the CMOS battery is not accessible from just one slot. I had to remove basically anything...

@ChristianHupfer well I hope you had fun!

@samcarter: Thank's for correcting the typo!

@Moriambar Well, I thought the whole device would be damaged, but I suspected the CMOS battery. So either I had to turn into some expensive repair service (with would cost me at least 100 €), buying a new notebook or spending 2 € for a new CMOS battery ;-) I think I saved at least 98 € (and spend an hour of working and figuring out which screw has to be untightened...

@Moriambar Well, I've got two screws left :D :D

@Moriambar: By the way, I also saved the life of a cat which was running across the street this morning, apparently with suicidal tendencies ;-) Fortunately I drove quite slowly and could stop in time!

@ChristianHupfer Great! I love cats

@ChristianHupfer I would've spent the 100€, thus saving the pc instead of destroying it (in my case)

:37039752: I did not mention 'destroying' because it's running again ;-)

@ChristianHupfer I would've destroyed it. This I meant. I would've spent 100€ otherwise it would be destroyed in my case

@Moriambar Well, it's not really difficult to 'repair' this kind of thing. You need a small screwdriver (well, screwdriver the screwdriver, not screwdriver, the drink ;-)) and a little bit of patience.

@ChristianHupfer you should also know what you're doing

@Moriambar Well, no risk no fun ;-) And isn't your slogan: Jack of all trades? ;-)

@ChristianHupfer ahah… that's one way to see it… Yes, I know some tinkering, have done a couple of project myself, but I know nothing of those damn pc internals

@Moriambar Well, I bought my first PC more than 20 years ago, it was ok. A bought another one some years later, that failed after after three years -- not what I had intended. Then I thought: none of the models I found was exactly what I needed, so I bought the memory chips, disks, processor, mainboard and the chassis and assembled it. And after detecting one little untightened cable (which caused a failure during startup) the machine run for about 8 years, with the same Linux version ...

@Moriambar: Of course, it's almost impossible to assemble a notebook from individual parts...

@ChristianHupfer whoa… no, I've always been scared of the internals of pcs, nevertheless I'm dealing with them since around 1985 in a way or another. I like electronics, though, but it's come lately

@ChristianHupfer I wouldn't be able to distinguish among the internals of any pc, let alone a laptop! Maybe the battery I can kinda spot, but I'm not sure

@Moriambar Well, I am not really fond of electronics, but you don't need to understand electronics at all. First rule: Don't remove a part that is soldered to the main board :D

@ChristianHupfer well, first you have to spot the main board. But without removing the soldered parts, where's all the fun?

:P

@Moriambar That's something to occupy your children then: Take this mainboard and remove all colourful peaces from it ;-)

@ChristianHupfer Luckily I have no children :) More luckily: I can have all the fun!!!

@Moriambar s/your children/somebody's children ;-)

@ChristianHupfer let me rephrase: luckily I'm not around children more than once or twice a year I cannot stand children…

@Moriambar Luckily you're no teacher then ;-)

@ChristianHupfer It's not luck, but a wise non-masochistic choice, I guess… :P

@Moriambar Teaching Physics can be quite funny... Today I showed the famous Ampere experiment with two 'wires' and a car battery ;-)

@ChristianHupfer Well, I would've liked teaching in the uni, I don't like the kind of teaching of the other kind of schools. Too many children or teenager to cope with. I don't like that kind of stuff.

@ChristianHupfer Maybe I will get the chance to teach to some teachers though, that could be kinda fun!

@Moriambar Well, it depends. There are strange classes and every minute is like hell and there are reallz nice classes or courses and its quite sad that the lesson is finished so quickly ...

@Moriambar I did that and didn't like it. Too many fault-finders that have been forced into advanced education courses for teachers...

@ChristianHupfer well I think it's a personal matter, it's apparent that you like teaching very much. I am much more like a preacher…

@ChristianHupfer Oh I see… I just have that possible thing, and I see it as an improbable way to turn around my life, at least regarding my job

@ChristianHupfer (I would be teaching the basis of typography and LaTeX systems anyway)

@Moriambar Teaching teachers about typography and LaTeX?

@ChristianHupfer You're welcome!

@ChristianHupfer yup, they saw my failure lecture last week and: math teachers who write books asked me to teach them to proficiently use LaTeX and how to typeset as beautifully as I did; math teachers who do not write books asked me to teach them in order to be able to cut the time spent typesetting formulas for exams; Italian language teachers were very interested in the typographic part and in how to typeset their exams, letters, documents, books; one french teacher (cont...)

@ChristianHupfer (cont) was interested in language sensitive hyphenation patterns; finally a chemistry teacher was interested in typesetting formulas and reactions for her own benefit, for assignments and for maybe publishing a book…

They're all words at the moment…

@Moriambar Yes, convince them to the Dark Side ;-)

@ChristianHupfer I felt like a magician playing dirty tricks at one moment, but I had to play it well… we'll see

@Moriambar: You answered what I was recommending some minutes before in a comment ;-)

@ChristianHupfer sorry I haven't seen the comment… :-( my network connection is sketchy and sometimes it take 4-5 minutes to post an answer. Plenty of time to comment. I've seen the comment later of course and edited the answer to include part of what you wrote