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12:01 AM
@egreg Sabrina the teenage witch. :)
 
@PauloCereda I prefer Billy Wilder's movie: Audrey Hepburn is magnificent.
 
@egreg Ah of course. :)
 
@PauloCereda And it's black and white!
 
@egreg Audrey Hepburn is beautiful in any colour of the spectrum. :)
 
@PauloCereda In full featured colors in “Breakfast at Tiffany‘s” or “Charade”.
 
12:06 AM
@egreg :)
 
@PauloCereda I can't miss thinking to “Charade” every time I go to the Palais Royal in Paris. A beautiful movie, by the way, full of humor.
 
@egreg It's a great movie, from beginning to end. :)
 
@PauloCereda “A man drowned in his own bed?” asks the inspector. :)
 
@egreg LOL
@egreg: Is there a [Mr.|Mrs.|Ms.] <insert surname here>? something about divorce here. :)
 
@PauloCereda “Yes, my mother”. :)
 
12:17 AM
@egreg :)
 
12:43 AM
@PauloCereda I don't think she is beautiful.
 
@JasperLoy Hey Jasper! :) Really?
 
@PauloCereda Yeah, I think the most beautiful actress for me is Laura Ramsey, lol.
 
@JasperLoy She's also gorgeous. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes, she is so hot in She's the man and The Covenant!
 
1:00 AM
@JasperLoy :)
Time for me to go to bed! Good night, friends! :)
 
1:38 AM
Hi. In the tabular environment I understand that with using the array package, you can achieve a vertically centered column using m{width} for the column, i.e. \begin{tabular}{m{5em}}.
Is there a way to have a column vertically centered and right aligned?
 
 
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6:07 AM
Good morning! :) See you guys later, time to go to São Paulo! :)
 
 
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9:24 AM
Great, the code I got out of one question has broken the \section command :(
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Q: Using linging figures inside a section title with Venturis ADF and code to have section 100a

CanageekAlright, I have a document that is mostly set with old style figures, and I like this as there is very little math. However, one characters name is Zen0, which renders almost identically to Zeno in Venturis ADF with Old Style numerals, so I'm using lining figures for this one word. However, whe...

 
9:51 AM
@PauloCereda arara? VVV
'Automating' comes from the roots 'auto-' meaning 'self-', and 'mating', meaning 'screwing'.
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@DavidCarlisle This sounds familiar :-(
 
 
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1:35 PM
@DavidCarlisle LOL pretty accurate. :)
 
 
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3:24 PM
An ad running in our building today. :)
Of course unless it actually was advertising a LaTeX seminar, it's ungrammatical to anyone like me who doesn't speak 'English literature speak'.
 
@AlanMunn Is Peter Wilson invited?
 
@egreg Unless he's writing his autobiography, I suspect not.
 
@AlanMunn What's “memoir writing” for us uninitiated?
 
@egreg I don't exactly know what the difference is between an autobiography and a memoir, except for perhaps in the latter you have no need to be exhaustive. I'm not actually in the initiated crowd, so I'm about as clueless as you. Maybe I should go to the seminar and report back. ;-)
It seems my intuition was right: (from a writing website) "An autobiography focuses on the chronology of the writer’s entire life while a memoir covers one specific aspect of the writer’s life."
 
3:40 PM
@AlanMunn Sounds about right
 
4:15 PM
Mac users: How to diagnose a program (InDesign CS3) that won't open at all, but puts out no error. I can't seem to find anything in the console log either. It's supposed to be compatible with Mavericks AFAIK.
 
 
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5:33 PM
@PauloCereda I noticed a problem with the "MakeGlossaries" arara directive when I was doing some glossaries tests with file names containing spaces. (Not that I'm recommending file names with spaces :-P )
% arara: pdflatex
% arara: makeglossaries
% arara: pdflatex

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{glossaries}

\makeglossaries

\newglossaryentry{sample}{name=sample,description={an example}}

\begin{document}
\gls{sample}.

\printglossaries
\end{document}
Save as file with spaces.tex then arara "file with spaces" fails on the MakeGlossaries bit:
Running MakeGlossaries...

Auxiliary file '"file with spaces".aux' doesn't exist. Have you run LaTeX?
makeglossaries version 2.12 (2014-01-20)
FAILURE
(Running makeglossaries "file with spaces" directly works okay.)
Of course the simple answer is not to use spaces in file names.
 
@AlanMunn Is anything showing up in the process list (I think the GUI for this is called 'Activity Monitor') as you open it up? A particular process might be hanging. If so, you can find out what it does and try to track down the source.
 
6:09 PM
@SeanAllred Nothing other than the WindowServer shows up briefly, but that does for other things too, so I don't think it's directly relevant.
 
6:37 PM
I'm adding a link to this from the biber documentation from version 1.9 and removing the meagre comments about this I currently have in there. — PLK 35 mins ago
Cool: the Biber question is clearly useful!
 
6:54 PM
Is there a definitive question about installing perl on Windows? I know this isn't a specific TeX-related thing, but there are quite a few TeX applications that require perl (e.g. makeglossaries, xindy, latexmk, epstopdf, latexdiff). It would be useful if there was a link we could use everytime this comes up. I've found:
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Q: Perl Interpreter could not be found

Erland GaddeI downloaded MikTeX and got TeXworks. I try to follow the manual and create an example document. But I get an error message in the "Console output" window: "Latexmk.exe: The Perl intetpreter could not be found." Is this Perl interpreter something that I have to download separately? I thought eve...

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Q: The perl interpreter could not be found

steveI am new to LaTeX and using it for my thesis. However, right now I am having trouble in using latexdiff. I did the instructions as follows: Question: How to generate latexdiff on Windows? Answer: Download and install ActivePerl? Assume you install ActivePerl? in C:\Perl Download latexdiff p...

 
Hello at all, Haven’t been here for a long time …
 
@Speravir Hello :-)
 
@NicolaTalbot I read your latest mail some minutes ago. A silent update should be enough for this patch. Otherwise you must change the bug tracker entry. ;-)
 
@NicolaTalbot Would you consider that question (0 upvotes) without answer definitive?
 
7:09 PM
@Werner or another one who wants to answer: In past such questions like Apparent package bug/conflict were closed as “Too localized”. But which of the close items can I choose now as close reason? Off-topic, too broad? In my eyes it is not unclear what the OP asks here.
 
@Speravir I changed the version number of the new makeglossaries to 2.12 and uploaded glossaries v4.03. Thanks for your help. :-) I think I'll probably edit the bug tracker entry to change the version number (as say which glossaries release it corresponds to).
 
@Speravir I know... I was just commenting on the reference.
 
@NicolaTalbot OK, then this way.
@Werner I did not refer to your question to Nicola. I aminterested independent of this.
 
@Werner I think the one with 3 votes is better as the answer gives a link to Windows Perl distributions, but I wonder if it needs elaboration or perhaps we need some default text to use whenever the issue comes up.
 
@Speravir Sorry, that was meant for @NicolaTalbot.
 
7:19 PM
@Werner Oh, I've got confused. Sorry, I'm not firing on all cylinders today. Are we still talking about the perl question?
 
@NicolaTalbot :)
 
@NicolaTalbot I just noted this: Both MiKTeX and TeX Live come with their own rudimetary Perl interpreters. At least for MiKTeX this only works for scripts, already part of MiKTeX. See what I’ve written in my tutorial How to use Xindy with MiKTeX? under “Prerequisites”. Also, in MiKTeX there exist wrapper executables for what is originally a perl script. There is for instance a makeglossaries.exe.
 
@NicolaTalbot: You referenced in an old comment the following:
This points to:
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Q: The perl interpreter could not be found

steveI am new to LaTeX and using it for my thesis. However, right now I am having trouble in using latexdiff. I did the instructions as follows: Question: How to generate latexdiff on Windows? Answer: Download and install ActivePerl? Assume you install ActivePerl? in C:\Perl Download latexdiff p...

Which I thought was really a good reference. But, since both of us might not be firing on all cylinders (yes, me included), I haven't actually read the linked question to know whether it helps.
 
@Werner Oh drat. I meant to reference the other question. I think I had both open in different tabs and must've copied the wrong link.
 
However, as consolation, you add one to your website.
Oh...
...I see I was wrong...
...I think you edited the comment and changed it?
 
7:23 PM
@Werner I remember editing it, but can't quite remember what the edit was. It was all of a few minutes ago!
 
@NicolaTalbot: In short: Would the jury please disregard the previous statements... :)
 
@Werner :-) Actually I shouldn't have written "need" since the OP could manage just by calling makeindex directly, but since that's in my website link I don't think I'll confuse matters further.
 
ppr
Hi everyone. Someone (using MikeTeX on window) asked me how to extract the references relevant to a paper from a big .bib. I know solutions (documented here or here with bibtool or bibexport. However, this person uses MikeTeX and do not know how to use a terminal.
Is there a simple way to extract references from a big .bib with MikeTeX on window ?
(I cannot test myself, I have no window at home)
 
@Speravir Perhaps ask @JosephWright
@Speravir It might be worth adding that to the often referenced questions
Maybe that needs a new answer on links related to invoking external applications.
 
@NicolaTalbot I actually wanted to do exactly this, but Joseph has logged off short before I came in, and I hoped some other could answer as well.
 
7:32 PM
@Speravir Perhaps wait for him to return? That's definitely one for the old "too localised" close reason, but I'm not sure what to use now. It's not really off-topic, so perhaps "too broad" although that doesn't seem quite right.
 
Hi there friends.
I am from Math stack exchange.
 
May I ask a question about Latex
 
@ppr I've got some information on using a terminal at dickimaw-books.com/latex/novices/html/terminal.html if that's of any help.
 
@NicolaTalbot Especially why the OP in between commented the issue vanished after updating the TeX editor …
 
7:34 PM
Is there any codes in Latex in which you can show two vertices in a graph are adjacent?
 
oops, remove the trailing /
 
@Speravir I suspect it may be a case that "updating the editor" may have actually meant updating TL.
 
@NicolaTalbot Yes, if you replace TL with MiKTeX. ;-)
 
@Speravir Oops ;-) Still not firing on all cylinders. I ought to make myself a nice hot cocoa and sit in front of the fire in my slippers and dressing gown. ;-)
@B.S. Do you mean you want to draw a graph by just specifying the vertices relationships to each other without any coordinates or do you mean you want to describe a graph and get TeX to work out which vertices are adjacent?
 
@NicolaTalbot: Dear Nicola, some times we want to represent two vertices are adjacent so we write " ...assume that $v$ and $w$ are adjacent....". I want not to write. I want to describe this property just by a possible symbol in Latex. Thanks.
 
7:45 PM
@NicolaTalbot I now opted for opinion-based. Will be away from computer now for a while.
 
@B.S. I don't know what symbol is used for that. As far as I recall I've always written "adjacent" rather than using a symbol. Wikipedia doesn't suggest a symbol.
@Speravir :-)
 
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Q: Package loading order questions need some work

Alan MunnToday, this question popped up: Is there a hierarchy between packages? I was sure it was a duplicate, and found this question: What's the right order when loading packages? which then led me to this question: Packages that need to be included in a specific order But this question simp...

 
@NicolaTalbot: Thanks a lot for your time. :-)
 
@B.S. That's okay. Incidentally there are two really useful resources for looking up symbols: mirror.ctan.org/info/symbols/comprehensive and detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html Neither help in this case, but may help for other symbols you might need in future.
 
8:02 PM
@AlanMunn Which question are you referring to when you mention "the second/third question"?
 
@Werner I mean the order they appear in my question. I'll make that clearer.
 
@AlanMunn Thanks. Even if it is just re-linking in your reference to [second](<link)>...
 
@Werner Thanks for asking. I've made it (crystal) clear, now I hope.
@Werner I tend to find those kinds of links annoying, so I wont do that.
 
@AlanMunn I understand; it's very blog-like.
...I do it quite often. :-|
...retagged!
 
@Werner Well it's personal choice, I guess. But I'd prefer to know what it is I'm clicking on with some actual descriptive content (like it's title). It's especially true here, where there are lots of questions that those of us who are here a lot know without actually having to visit.
@Werner Thanks, I'm not much up on meta tags.
 
8:16 PM
@AlanMunn Again, I understand...
@AlanMunn Neither am I, just part of house-keeping (before tag-daemon @lockstep gets to it).
 
@Werner :)
 
8:49 PM
Ok, I fixed my question now that I've found the actual problem
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Q: Use lining figures with Venturis ADF and hyperref

CanageekI've got a document set with Venturis ADF and old style numbers, as they match the body text of the document much better. However, one of the characters names is Zen0, and with an old style zero this looks like Zeno. Therefore I'm using \textl{Zen0} to write hir name. This works perfectly fine, e...

 
@JosephWright I initially wanted to ask you, but short before I logged in, you went away :-) so, let me repeat: In past such questions like Apparent package bug/conflict were closed as “Too localized”. But which of the close items can I choose now as close reason? Off-topic, too broad? In my eyes it is not unclear what the OP asks here. I now opted for opinion-based.
 
I swear I tested the MWE! ...It just turns out I forgot to purge the aux files and got a false positive on what was breaking things.
 
@Speravir Vanishing problem either 'unclear' or 'off topic' ('we don't answer questions on ...')
 
@JosephWright OK. But what when there’s no reaction by the OP, and the issue is not reproducible?
 
@Speravir OT as we don't answer about things we can't reproduce
 
8:55 PM
Also: Whoooo the question was opened.
 
@JosephWright Ah, thanks.
 
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Q: What are the main differences between AutoLaTeX and LaTeXMk?

IngoI stumbled upon AutoLaTeX today and it seems to be very similar to LaTeXMk indeed. Can you summarise the main differences, which might help me choose between the two tools?

 
9:17 PM
I never will understand the review mechanism: Sometimes a close vote seems to appear very fast there. But sometimes they do not: This question I voted 5 days ago makeglossaries call to xindy failed. For the question LaTeX-Referenz package in MiKTeX for about a week one final close quote was missing, and now the close votes are “deleted”, what is not fully true, because one cannot vote again.
 
9:34 PM
Wow, I'm an idiot
I forgot texorpdfstring
 
9:54 PM
@NicolaTalbot Oopsie, I'll fix the rule.
 
10:19 PM
@PauloCereda How was the trip?
 
@egreg Tiring, but pretty good. :) Had some German food today. I survived. :)
 
@PauloCereda Würsteln und Sauerkraut?
 
@egreg Nope, it was another strange word. :) Let me look up.
Eisbein und Sauerkraut
 
@PauloCereda Zampetto di maiale, not to be confused with zampone.
 
@egreg :)
 
10:27 PM
Strange that the whole world thinks that Sauerkraut is typically German: the French and the Americans actually eat more than we do... and it's not even a German invention... OTOH I think I'll have some this week
 
@cgnieder My Würsteln are always without Sauerkraut, sorry. ;-)
 
@egreg most kinds of Würschtle (as we in Swabia say) don't go well with Sauerkraut... but Schupfnudeln do :)
 
@cgnieder What about Nürnberger or Bamberger Würsteln?
Of course Bamberger go with Rauchbier. ;-)
 
Ein Bier, bitte.
 
@egreg I think Nürnberger and Sauerkraut fit very well :)
But I've never heard of Bamberger before...
 
10:38 PM
Speaking of food, I discovered haggis is really tasty. Works great on pizza.
 
@PauloCereda Für mich auch, bitte! :)
 
@cgnieder Drei Bier! :)
 
In my family we eat Kassler with Sauerkraut. ... Now I'm hungry
 
@cgnieder I don't know what they call them, but they have a special kind of Würsteln, AFAIR.
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
10:40 PM
@egreg: oh I almost forgot, there was something called Knödel too. I didn't like it. :(
 
@cgnieder Maybe they're just a variety of Nürnberger. But it would be strange, as Bamberg is catholic and Nürnberg is protestant. ;-)
 
@egreg very well possible. There are so many kinds of Würstchen :)
@PauloCereda Do you remember what kind of Knödel?
 
@PauloCereda We have them also in Italy; in Trentino they're called canederli. And in Bohemia they're called knedliky.
 
@cgnieder No idea, but it was served with Paprika.
@egreg Oh.
 
@PauloCereda That's sehr gut, of course.
 
10:44 PM
@egreg :)
 
@PauloCereda doesn't ring a bell... I do like Kartoffelknödel. And Semmelknödel although I think they're Austrian rather than German. Now I'm even more hungry...
 
@cgnieder I was quite shy to order. I had no idea how to pronounce what I wanna eat. :)
@cgnieder, @egreg: by the way, there was an analogic clock there where all digits were replaced by 6. :)
 
@PauloCereda :) I woulnd't want to order something when I have no idea what it is
 
@cgnieder Hey it was German food. Nothing bad could've happened. :P
Well, I could have ordered a baked napkin.
 
@PauloCereda Except for Blutwurst. Or Kuddeln.
Hm. Seems we have no vegetarian food...
 
10:49 PM
@cgnieder LOL
@cgnieder McVegan? :)
 
@PauloCereda Oh! Of course! :)
 
@cgnieder As long as bacon is the esperanto of food, I'm saved. :)
 
@PauloCereda lol
 
@cgnieder But I like the food. :)
 
11:19 PM
@PauloCereda Paulo, where are you? Or where ordered you German food?
 
@Speravir Brazil. :) I went to a German restaurant today. :)
 
@PauloCereda In São Paulo? I know there is at least one with German food.
 
@Speravir Yep. :)
 
@PauloCereda :-) I do not, whether you were there, but about a month a regional radio station from Berlin and Brandenburg broadcasted for a week from the Goethe-Institut São Paulo, and they told that there is a restaurant, too.
@PauloCereda Now, it’s very easy for you to learn German. ;-)
 
@Speravir Oh I don't know where the Goethe institute is, but I can find out in my next trip. :) I went to the mall and there's a well-known German food franchise in there. :)
 
11:34 PM
@PauloCereda A German food-franchise? Well-known? The Goethe-Institut has a Acesso link.
 
@Speravir Butantã? :) It's where I'm there. :)
 
@PauloCereda I surely do know São Paulo much, much worse than you. :-D
 
@Speravir We are even. :)
 
@PauloCereda Oups.
 

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