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12:09 AM
@AlanMunn /waves
 
@PauloCereda Do you know the ins and outs of font management in texmf-local?
 
@AlanMunn I don't know much, sadly. :(
 
 
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8:28 AM
@kan normally (windows) 23 but I updated cygwin yesterday so was expecting to say I had 24 on that but actually it just hangs:-) I'd better get cygwin emacs working asap:-)
@kan bashrc is executed each time you start bash so if you simply append to the path in that you can find it appended multiple times if you are in the habit of starting subshells. Not that that normally matters.
 
@AlanMunn What I suggest is always using texmf-local for installing fonts. Never do it in TEXMFHOME
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle My emacs is broken with a terrible problem:
the right init file is getting picked. the load-path variable shows the right thing! But, the emacs24 still complains!!
 
8:50 AM
@kan don't argue with emacs.
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Hey! But, emacs should not hide the problem too...
Later, I must not be doing this!!!
 
@kan This is GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 3.6.4)
 
9:37 AM
any experts around please? I am getting strange error with TL 2013 at this line and do not know what to make of it. Here is the error:

(/usr/local/texlive/2013/texmf-dist/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsb.fd)
! Undefined control sequence.
\a:newlabel ...utoref\string \endcsname {\NR:Type
                                                  }#1}
l.49 \end{equation}

?
And here is the line in the code (around line 49)...
Hence%

\begin{equation}
y\left(  t\right)  =e^{-\zeta\omega_{n}t}\left(  A\sin\omega_{d}t+B\cos
\omega_{d}t\right)  +\frac{p_{0}}{k}\frac{1}{\left(  1-\beta^{2}\right)
^{2}+\left(  2\zeta\beta\right)  ^{2}}\left(  \left(  1-\beta^{2}\right)
\sin\varpi t-2\zeta\beta\cos\varpi t\right)  \label{eq1}%
\end{equation}
line 49 is above \end{equation} Is something wrong with the label? THis is SWP generated code. thank you.
 
@MarcoDaniel Not only using the parskip package is disputable; adding \onehalfspacing to it is appalling. I'm referring to the documentation of lengthconvert. ;-)
 
@Nasser is that line 49 of the right file though (TeX doesn't tell you directly which file) You want to look where \NR:Type came from.
 
@DavidCarlisle It seems due to tex4ht
 
@egreg well yes that goes without saying (as it's @Nasser :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle . I only have one file. I think this is the same old bug that was in TL 2012. It only happens with htlatex, not pdflatex. Same file.
 
9:51 AM
@Nasser are you removing the .aux files when switching between pdflatex and htlatex?
 
I have ONE file. blows up with htlatex, but compiles with pdflatex OK.
q
 
@Nasser you start out with one file, but htlatex writes other files and some of them get fed back to tex and if an error happens while processing them line numbers relate to that temporary file. That's what I meant.
 
I did. same error:

>rm *.aux
rm: remove regular file ‘note_on_lecture_2_21_2013.aux’? y
>


! Undefined control sequence.
\a:newlabel ...utoref\string \endcsname {\NR:Type
                                                  }#1}
l.128 \end{equation}

?
Ok, I know htlatex calls Latex 3 times internally. But I delete the AUX files, then call htlatex and the error shows up.
I am trying to come up with a MWE example. THe file is not large
I got it a MWE
Here it is....
\documentclass[12pt]{article}%
\usepackage{hyperref}
\begin{document}
\begin{equation} \label{eq1}
y\left(  t\right)  =e^{-\zeta\omega_{n}t}\left(  A\sin\omega_{d}t+B\cos
\omega_{d}t\right)  +\frac{p_{0}}{k}\frac{1}{\left(  1-\beta^{2}\right)
^{2}+\left(  2\zeta\beta\right)  ^{2}}\left(  \left(  1-\beta^{2}\right)
\sin\varpi t-2\zeta\beta\cos\varpi t\right)  %
\end{equation}
\end{document}
htlatex foo.tex
! Undefined control sequence.
\a:newlabel ...utoref\string \endcsname {\NR:Type
                                                  }#1}
l.6 \begin{equation} \label{eq1}
Should I post this on main board please?
 
10:13 AM
@Nasser If I add a \section command before the equation, there's no error.
 
@Nasser you can make it more minimal by removing all the math, just a label in an equation is enough to make the error
/usr/local/texlive/2013/texmf-dist/tex/generic/tex4ht/nameref.4ht: {\NR:Type}#1}
 
@DavidCarlisle @egreg I made it more minimal and posted the question. I have to go sleep, so it is there now. Thanks for your help.
 
10:38 AM
@egreg Right, that's what I've always done too. And this person seems to have done this, but now their fonts aren't found:
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Q: Problem with font after upgrading to MacTeX 2013

universalisI got a problem after upgrading to MacTeX 2013 today. When I try to produce a pdf file with pdflatex I get an error like this: mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for pfrr8r. mktexpk: perhaps pfrr8r is missing from the map file kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log...

 
@AlanMunn I don't know what to say; I switched to using updmap.cfg in texmf-local, as recommended in TL 2012, and I have no problem in finding the fonts there.
 
@egreg And when you updated, you didn't need to do anything to have the fonts found, right?
 
@AlanMunn Nothing at all.
 
@egreg Right. And kpsewhich updmap.cfg returns /usr/local/texlive/2013/texmf-dist/web2c/updmap.cfg, right? (same as the user).
 
10:53 AM
@AlanMunn What about kpsewhich --all updmap.cfg?
 
This is awesome: Playstation 4 runs a modified version of FreeBSD!
 
@AlanMunn However, reading again the question seems to suggest some different scenario; the reference to texmf is worrying me.
 
11:25 AM
@DavidCarlisle @egreg @JosephWright and others : I'm gaining speed little by little for a linear algebra operations library (very limited so far) for TeX. Believe it or not the most difficult part for me is to store the matrices in temporary variables when doing arbitrary operations :)
Would you recommend L3 lists for such usage? Or should I really hold things in macros as comma separated arrays.
I just started reading about them and I guess I have to dig deeper.
 
@percusse Notice that in l3candidates there are methods such as \seq_item:Nn which extracts the item from a list corresponding to a particular index, so \seq would work well as an array.
 
@AndrewStacey Oh thanks for reminding me that. My second question is about indexing a particular entry without touching every item in the list. I was thinking of keeping track of the variables' meta data in a related macro, e.g., \meta_mymatrix_size, \meta_mymatrix_r_or_c etc., say to get the size of the matrix. But I think that would make the macro numbers run out too quickly.
 
@percusse Have you seen this one? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/112599/…
 
@percusse I could sell you a linear algebra library:-) sequence would work although you might be better with a specific 2d array datatype rather than always encoding everything as list of lists, there was some discussion of that somewhere not so long ago I'll see if I can find it. @JosephWright would remember (unless I dreamt it:-)
 
@TorbjørnT. Yes. I was thinking to built on top of it. But for something like a LU decomposition I couldn't make it flexible enough without too long for loops. In the end I will contact Bruno anyhow. :)
@DavidCarlisle Ah that would be great !
@TorbjørnT. Due to some IQ problems, I decided to include the complex data which made everything even more difficult.
 
11:48 AM
@percusse there was some discussion triggered by Bruno on arrays/objects/structured-things but it was internal team list, so you'd need to ping him:-) I'm not sure of the current state (or in fact whether there is any current state at all or whether it was just discussion, I only half remembered it and just flicked over the top of the thread just now)
 
@DavidCarlisle I guess it's better to contact him directly also to get the latest updates if he is still working on it.
 
12:05 PM
Let's create a l3zippers package. :)
 
12:28 PM
@percusse One should define an array data type.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I had a go at one but Bruno suggested (probably correctly) that we should look to create an 'object' type which allows arbitrary situations
I hope everyone is OK with
21
Q: New close reasons: use of new 'unclear what you're asking' reason

Joseph WrightWe will soon see the arrival of the new close reasons (a change being implemented across the StackExchange network). This will raise a few question: here I want to focus specifically the 'unclear what you're asking' closure reason. The text for this will apparently read Please clarify your s...

 
@JosephWright Can we have a "This question needs more ducks" too, please? :)
 
1:05 PM
@AlanMunn It seems that switching to the multiple updmap.cfg model solved the issue with the missing font. :)
 
1:33 PM
I can't believe the bad kerning Google Chrome gave to a printed document.
 
1:49 PM
Hi
 
@DominicMichaelis Hi
 
how can I say that the \paragraph{} font should be the same that amsthm uses per default (or is this not a good idea ?)
 
@DominicMichaelis In article they are the same (\bfseries)
 
yeah normally i only use article but I write a script in scrartcl
 
@DominicMichaelis Are you sure you want to go as deep as four levels?
 
1:54 PM
@egreg how do you mean ?
 
@DominicMichaelis \section, \subsection, \subsubsection, \paragraph: this makes four levels, doesn't it?
 
well i use \paragraph{} for something like a remark
 
@DominicMichaelis Don't. Define a remark environment.
 
ok I think next time I will ask first
4000 lines to check :D
gee I already have 4000 lines ?!
article is much cooler than scrartcl
 
@DominicMichaelis With a theorem-like environment for remarks, you can easily customize its appearance (header font and body font, for instance), which is not easy with \paragraph.
 
2:03 PM
@egreg would you like to take a look at the outer appearance of the script later ? well it is on german but that doesn't matter for the type set does it ?
 
@DominicMichaelis Sure.
 
@PauloCereda when printing from a browser you should be thankful if the letters appear. Worrying about kerning is silly:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed. :) At least Firefox gave me a decent result. :)
 
why did we make so many proofs :/
 
@DominicMichaelis Use “the proof is left as an exercise for the interested reader” more.
 
2:18 PM
i have to correct the \paragraph{proof} into a \begin{proof} ... \end{proof}
 
@DominicMichaelis Bad planning. ;-)
 
@DominicMichaelis Lesson learned. ;-)
 
@egreg How about some recursive proof scheme? Proof 1: see Proof 2. Proof 2: see Proof 1. :)
 
@PauloCereda Too easy. It's better to state a lemma in chapter 1 saying it will be proved in chapter 3; in chapter 2 use the lemma to prove a theorem. In chapter 3 use the theorem to finally prove the lemma.
It always works. ;-)
 
2:23 PM
@egreg ooh that's neat!
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Want to help me fix my emacs problem? I'd be grateful! :)
 
@kan we should get @PauloCereda to do it, he needs some emacs practice.
 
@DavidCarlisle # apt-get remove emacs Problem solved. :)
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle :) :)
@DavidCarlisle on a more serious note... you could help too... :)
 
2:38 PM
@kan you could try asking
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle the problem is emacs complains that it cannot load auctex because it does not know where it is....
 
@kan what does it actually say. (and where is auctex)
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Here are some relevant information:
Warning (initialization): An error occurred while loading `/home/knsam/.emacs':

File error: Cannot open load file, auctex.el

To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with
the `--debug-init' option to view a complete error backtrace.
So, I do the --debug-init and see:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "auctex.el")
  load("auctex.el" nil t t)
  eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "/home/knsam/.emacs" nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 106
  load-with-code-conversion("/home/knsam/.emacs" "/home/knsam/.emacs" t t)
  load("~/.emacs" t t)
  #[0 "\205\262
(oops there is some problem with last few lines, not copying from the buffer! do they matter @David?)
 
well do you have auctex. I have it with my emacs 23 (I don't think I added it, although I can't remember) but it hasn't come with the emacs 24 I have) emacs23 site-lisp had a emacs23.4/site-lisp/tex-site.el that turned on auctex by default
@kan for me find /usr/share/emacs/24.3 -name auctex.\* returns nothing so I'd have to go and fetch it if I needed it (or copy it over from emacs 23)
 
kan
2:53 PM
@DavidCarlisle Oh, I installed auctex by using the elpa...
And, it is in the load-path.
 
@kan If emacs says it is not on the load path, and you say it is. I'll believe emacs. No offence:-)
@kan never heard of elpa until you mentioned it but this says it should work: gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/Installation.html
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle :) But, OK, I need to understand this right!!
knsam@PerverseSheaf:~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.86$ ls
auctex-autoloads.el   auctex-pkg.elc  context-en.el   font-latex.el   multi-prompt.el     prv-emacs.elc  tex-buf.elc   tex-font.el    tex-jp.el     tex-site.el
auctex-autoloads.el~  bib-cite.el     context-en.elc  font-latex.elc  multi-prompt.elc    README         tex.el        tex-font.elc   tex-jp.elc    tex-site.elc
auctex.info           bib-cite.elc    context-nl.el   images          preview.el          style          tex.el~       tex-fptex.el   texmathp.el   tex-style.el
 
@kan so no auctex.el there
 
kan
"/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.86/" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.86" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/company-0.6.10/"
"/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/company-0.6.10" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/muse-3.20" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/notes-mode-1.30" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/sml-mode-6.4/" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/sml-mode-6.4" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/windresize-0.1" "/home/knsam/.emacs.d/elpa/yasnippet-0.8.0" "/opt/emacs24/share/emacs/24.3.50/site-lisp" "/opt/emacs24/share/emacs/site-lisp" "/opt/emacs24/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp" "/opt/emacs24/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp/vc" "/opt/emac
That is my load-path....
@DavidCarlisle eeks!!!!
 
@kan well do any of those palaces have auctex.el ?
8 mins ago, by David Carlisle
@kan If emacs says it is not on the load path, and you say it is. I'll believe emacs. No offence:-)
 
kan
3:03 PM
@DavidCarlisle I guess, I need: auctex-pkg.el... what do you think?
 
@kan well did you do the i x thing in the manual at the gnu.org site I linked to above (I have never used elpa so you are on your own there) or did you read teh file README that you list above,
 
kan
when I say $cat auctex-pkg.el:
(define-package "auctex" "11.86" "Integrated environment for *TeX*")
@DavidCarlisle ^^
 
@kan yes but with that much code just guessing which is the top level file to load is not a good idea. Did you add the (load auctex) to your .emacs or did the package manager do it. If you did it I would remove that and so your .emacs has no reference to a "manual" install then try again using the epla i and x thing.
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle Oh! I added it! OK, I'll try your suggestion.
But more interestingly, even when changed to auctex-pkg.el, it does not work.
So, something more profound. :P
 
@kan It's like linux software installs: do it all manually or do it all through a package manager, trying to do both leads to pain
@kan I just installed auctex as described at gnu.org just requires i x no editing of files at all. tex files now open up in in auctex (don't even need to restart emacs)
 
kan
3:15 PM
@DavidCarlisle but sadly, my auctex says it is installed at a place, but, latex files don't start with it!!!
 
@kan yes but if you have an error in your .emacs loadig a file that isn't there then the rest of your .emacs isn't run and your session will b emisconfigured
 
kan
@DavidCarlisle no, now I have gotten rid of everything! So, emacs starts cleanly.
Ooh!!!!!!!!!!!
Success!!!!!!!!!!!!11
@DavidCarlisle Let's celebrate!!!:)
 
Is this the right place to get some feedback before I post a potentially boneheaded question?
 
@RobertMarshallMurphy Yes.
 
OK! I'm not sure how it would look, but is it possible to have footnotes be multicol while the rest of the document is not? I have a lot of short footnotes per page, and I thought it might save space. Is that possible?
 
3:29 PM
 
Sorry! Darn you, Google, for not steering me better!
 
@RobertMarshallMurphy No problem. Hope one of those works for you.
 
@RobertMarshallMurphy If you consider ledmac features, use eledmac instead (it's the successor package)
 
3:42 PM
I want a starred message too. :(
 
@PauloCereda Think to a witty line.
 
@egreg ooh a challenge! :)
 
@PauloCereda No ducks. ;-)
 
@egreg That's not fair. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda All's fair in war and love. :)
 
3:57 PM
@kan And in the fight for having starred messages.
 
kan
@egreg :-) Oh, yes.
 
@PauloCereda you have one about fonts
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
@PauloCereda speaking of starred messages, how come 3 people have starred that slanderous comment about my packages?
 
@DavidCarlisle The fight for having starred messages. :P
 
4:07 PM
@egreg Thanks. I will fix it.
 
@MarcoDaniel My eyes will be grateful. ;-)
 
4:37 PM
@DavidCarlisle Another competing answer.
 
4:53 PM
@JosephWright: I think I have problems with biblatex with TL2013. :(
 
@PauloCereda Really?
 
@egreg It appears so, /usr/local/texlive/2013/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex/lbx/brazilian.lbx
Runaway argument?
{bibliography = {{Bibliografia}{Bibliografia}}, references = {{Refer\^\ETC.
! Paragraph ended before \DeclareBibliographyStrings was complete.
<to be read again>
                   \par
l.454
 
@egreg a mean trick. (My answer was a lot simpler until I noticed that ( wasn't a url break character by default:-)
 
5:11 PM
@PauloCereda There's a wrong { in line 330
 
@egreg OH MY, I OWE YOU A BEER.
Grazie mille!
 
    330   nodate           = {{sem\space data}{{s\adddot d\adddot}},
 
@DavidCarlisle: See? ^^ :)
 
It's been added in the last update, I guess. It should be
    330   nodate           = {{sem\space data}{s\adddot d\adddot}},
 
@egreg Fixed, thanks. :)
It's working marvellously now. :)
 
5:15 PM
@PauloCereda A mail to @JosephWright is needed
 
@egreg Full ack. :)
 
@PauloCereda I did a diff with the 2012 version; being able to keep the older version is very handy
 
@egreg Oh nice.
@egreg Sent. :)
 
kan
5:39 PM
@PauloCereda Python question for you:
how would you write an efficient code to print all possible sums of elements of a given list...
(nice one to think about... :P)
 
@kan All possible sums? I'm lost. :)
 
kan
[1, 2, 3] --> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
the distinct sums you get by adding entries of your original list...
 
List comprehension it is then.
 
kan
1, 2, 3, 1+2, 1+3, 2+3, 1+2+3...
for ii in range(len(L)):
for jj in L[ii:]:
eeks.
 
@kan: I'm quite in a hurry today, but I'll try to send you an email later on.
 
kan
5:50 PM
@PauloCereda Sure!!
 
If you want something special, maybe writing a function for sum, calling it recursively on every sublist might be interesting.
 
kan
@PauloCereda I think the most efficient might be using itertools combination, and summing the elements of the tuple returned...
But, I am afraid, I am not quite right about efficiency.
 
@kan Pardon my language, efficiency is a b*tch. :)
You can get problems with virtually any code. :)
 
kan
@PauloCereda Man, I am going to handle stuff of the order 68! :)
 
I'll try to discuss it in my email. :)
 
kan
5:54 PM
68 FACTORIAL. :)
@PauloCereda Sure thing! Looking forward to it!
 
@kan I had a test here running for 27 days nonstop. :P
 
kan
@PauloCereda :-)
 
why does winedt tell me it can't find a documentation for amsthm
 
@DominicMichaelis because it can't find the documentation for amsthm?
 
but it should be some where :/
 
5:58 PM
@DavidCarlisle I'd upvote this answer. :)
Of course, @egreg would write a more friendly answer and steal your green tick. :)
 
@PauloCereda he'd probably write some new documentation for amsthm and post it all inline.
 
@DavidCarlisle maybe we can see barbara's rare uppercase letters! :)
 
@DominicMichaelis I have no idea about winedt, does it just use texdoc amsthm behind the scenes?
 
Well maybe this question is better. if I want to have a numbered environment like \newthorem{lm}{Lemma} and now want a single environment unnumberd
 STRING="\usepackage?{?}"
    DBL_CLICK_ENABLED=1
    DBL_CLICK_MODE_FILTER="TeX|AUX"
    DBL_CLICK_MACRO="[Assign('LaTeXDoc','Active');"+
                     "Exe('%b\Macros\Doc\LaTeXDoc.edt');]"
this is the definition i guess
 
@DominicMichaelis probably easiest is to define \newthorem*{lm*}{Lemma} and use \begin{lm*} for the unnumbered one (untested:-)
 
6:08 PM
I need a suggestion: I have two minipages with 0.5\linewidth. Is there a way to add a lil gap between them? Reducing the minipage width is fine, but they stick together. :P
 
@PauloCereda \hfill
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh!
 
@PauloCereda minipages have no special positioning rules you get same from \noindent X\hfill X\par whether X is X or \minipage.....
 
@DominicMichaelis \newtheorem* is precisely what produces unnumbered theorems (with amsmath). For the documentation of amsthm, see texdoc.net/texmf-dist/doc/latex/amscls/amsthdoc.pdf or look for amsthdoc.pdf on your system
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks. :)
 
6:20 PM
@PauloCereda Of course if the two minipages are half the textwidth, \hfill between them will be perfectly happy to set a zero space.
 
@egreg Ah yes. :)
 
@egreg yes I'd assumed @PauloCereda would make them smaller:-)
I just managed to get past Herbert on to the top row, now <insert this weeks name> has lined up a 4x500 bounty for a pstricks question he's bound to get:)
 
6:55 PM
@DavidCarlisle You do realise that being on the top row puts you right up there on my 'to lean on when we need another mod' list ;-)
 
@JosephWright David would be a great mod. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Let's wait: see last comment.
I'm asking how one can predict the output if the function is not invertible.
 
7:34 PM
@egreg don't confuse the search fro points with mathematical technicalities like non invertible functions:-)
@PauloCereda would it give me the power to delete any questions mentioning vim?
 
@DavidCarlisle Choose one at random?
@DavidCarlisle Yes.
 
@DavidCarlisle I think you can even steal green ticks from everyone!
 
@DavidCarlisle You could also remove all my answers, particularly those with a green tick.
 
@egreg we could both be mods then that would make !!/battle more exiting as we wage war using super-powers against each other.
5
 
kan
I guess we are not sending a good signal to the powers that be. :P
 
7:39 PM
@kan or MI5
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh a Jaguar is comming with the 007 theme playing in the background.
@DavidCarlisle DO IT, PLEASE.
 
@DavidCarlisle You probably could: we can easily ask for more mods
 
@JosephWright siunitx qn:-)
 
@PauloCereda Jaguar? Aston Martin, please.
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, saw that
 
7:45 PM
@AlanMunn Oh yes. Jaguar is M's car. :)
 
@PauloCereda 007's is a Bentley, at least in the books
 
@JosephWright but reading is so old fashioned when we have moving pictures.
 
@JosephWright :)
Throughout the James Bond series of films and novels, Q Branch has given Bond a wide variety of vehicles with which to battle his enemies. Among the most noteworthy gadgets, Bond has been equipped with various vehicles that have numerous modifications to include elaborate weapons and anti-pursuit systems, alternative transportation modes, and various other functions. Automobiles Alfa Romeo {| class="wikitable" style="width:98%" |- ! style="width: 11%"| Film ! style="width: 11%"| Vehicle ! style="width: 11%"| Owner ! style="width: 66%"| Notes |- | Octopussy || Alfa Romeo GTV6 || Civilian...
@Alan: if James Bond were Brazilian, he'd have a Fusca. :)
 
@PauloCereda It depended on what company offered the most for using their car in the movie. It was the same with what brand of whisky he drank or the cigarettes he smoked.
 
@PauloCereda Having driven a Fusca in Brazil, I'd say no. :)
 
7:52 PM
@AlanMunn C'mon, it's fun! :)
 
@PauloCereda I didn't say it wasn't fun. :)
 
@egreg Ah! :)
 
@egreg Apparently in the most recent movie (which I haven't seen) he actually drinks a Heineken.
 
@AlanMunn LOL
 
(not shaken or stirred, one presumes.)
 
7:54 PM
@AlanMunn Spoiler alert: Moneypenny is demoted to office work after almost killing 007, and M dies in the end of the movie. :)
 
@AlanMunn A shaken can of Heineken would be something.
 
kan
8:19 PM
Hmm, how do I put two tables side by side???
with their own captions...
minipage, riight?
 
@kan Yes
 
kan
@egreg but:
 
@kan But?
 
kan
\begin{minipage}[htbp]{0.5\textwidth}
\begin{table}
    \begin{tabular}{c|c}
    Cycle Type   & \# elements \\\hline
    (3, 1)       & 8           \\
    (2, 2)       & 3           \\
    (1, 1, 1, 1) & 1           \\
    \end{tabular}
\caption{Cycle Types in $A_4$}
\end{table}
\end{minipage}
complains... it says I am inside a parbox...
 
\begin{table}
\centering
\hfill\begin{minipage}{.3\textwidth}
\begin{tabular}{...}
...
\end{tabular}
\caption{A}
\end{minipage}\hfill
\begin{minipage}{.3\textwidth}
\begin{tabular}{...}
...
\end{tabular}
\caption{B}
\end{minipage}\hfill
\end{table}
@kan The minipages should be inside a table, not the converse.
 
kan
8:23 PM
@egreg Thanks a lot!!
@egreg Oh, I see... But, is there an intuitive way to understand that?
 
@kan A table environment can contain as many tables as you want, that fit in a page, of course.
@kan A table environment just sets up a floating box, allows the \caption command inside it, and sets the float name to “Table”.
 
kan
@egreg Oh, so, I can see how to get rid of that label....
 
@kan What label? If you want subfloats, look at the subcaption package.
 
kan
@egreg No, I don't want "Table 1" I want just the caption... sorry, I should have said sth else...
 
@kan Look for subcaption in the site.
 
kan
8:31 PM
@egreg Oh, OK. Thanks for the clues.
 
9:01 PM
@David: give M an Xbox. :)
 
@PauloCereda I would but she died in the last Movie
 
@DavidCarlisle Well played. :)
 
kan
9:13 PM
Need to catch some sleep!
Later!!
 
!!/battle
 
9:24 PM
@egreg 275 each, although I had a handicap of -15 by some user stealing my tick.
 
@DavidCarlisle Not I, this time.
 
@egreg No a newish user so I gave him a vote for the effort (was a better answer than mine anyway)
 
9:50 PM
@egreg for your amusement (I have replied although it isn't visible there yet) latex-project.org/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=graphics/4296
 
10:02 PM
Out of curiosity, how do you guys spell check your documents? :)
@DavidCarlisle This starred message of yours made me procrastinate all day watching a Pokémon movie about the battle of the two most powerful Pokémons, Mew vs Mewtwo. :P
 
@DavidCarlisle Once in a while Florent has a point. ;-)
 
@egreg Note my packages were consistent originally. I blame Chris's \change (although the internal record reveals I said at the time we should make it:-)
@PauloCereda The same way I spell check my comments here :(
 
@egreg I added an answer to the question about problematic hyperlinks with beamer: tex.stackexchange.com/q/120891/3954 Apparently this still doesn't work for the OP. Could you please test the solution to see if it works for you?
 
10:21 PM
@GonzaloMedina I tried the OP's version and can't actually see anything wrong (using TL2013) which links are supposed to not work?
 
@DavidCarlisle The ones in the outline were off in my test with the OP's code.
 
@GonzaloMedina hm the ones in the outline bookmarks on the left and the ones in beamers header with the circles all seem to be doing the right thing for me but maybe I'm getting tired.
 
@DavidCarlisle Hmmm... that's weird. I just double checked and hyperlinks in the outline were off by one (no problems with the ones in the navigation bar, though). After removing shrink, hyperlinks in the ToC are also working OK. Maybe I am also tired?
We need a third part verification :-)
@DavidCarlisle it seems it was me! A new trial shows no problem. I'll delete that answer.
 
10:43 PM
@GonzaloMedina blame the OP for confusing you.
@GonzaloMedina do you want to be a mod too and help relieve @egreg of his points? (See starred message)
 

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