Arg, now I've got two diffrent reactions to inbook
@JosephWright Is it a bug that if I have an editor I get an "In" before booktitle, but I don't if I don't list an editor?
@JosephWright Since that is REALLY annoying since the correct format is "title, in b ooktitle" so I've been hacking it to work, since Springer uses very generic titles that would confuse everyone
@StefanKottwitz Should. He refuses to fix the not putting in title since he says that isn't how ACS editors do it, no matter what the citation guidelines say
@Canageek Send me a mail and I'll take a look, but I do have to go with what the ACS actually do
@Canageek That's not a book, it's a journal
@Canageek Logic is that for the ACS book and inbook are the same: whether you use in or not depends on whether ther is a chapter name and/or editors + authors
@JosephWright I've just received the mail from the Power, and replied at once, of course, thank you! BTW, yesterday I lost a lot of reputation but I don't understand why. Do you know the reason? Did I do something wrong?
@JosephWright Thanks, I think I'll push it to ctan as it is, although I extended my answer here vvvv and I think that's persuading me that we should declare all the accent composites as "if char exists, use else use default composition" even if that's a bit slower. vvvv But that would be for next release vvvv
As egreg notes this is tricky, if we leave it as the default \d accent then you at least get some kind of dot under as long as the font has U+0303 however if we declare the composites, you get a better positioned dot if the font has the composite but a missing glyph in luatex if it doesn't, which...
@CarLaTeX From the rep history I can see that seems unlikely: you've have to have got a large bounty or similar. However, if you feel there is an issue, raise it with the staff: I can only see a certainly limited amount of data.
Good morning to you David and Christian. I have add my question of yesterday.
@ChristianHupfer Can your edit my question please?
@ChristianHupfer Sorry Christian.
@ChristianHupfer, @DavidCarlisle With heart in hand I am in the office of a friend of mine because I do not have internet at my house and I do everything in a hurry. Now I have to go home to help my mother. I do not say anything for the rest. Many thanks to all of you. Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
@Sebastiano no sorry the question should be closed as "too broad". As I said yesterday you should start to code it in tex and if you get stuck on some tex issue make a small example and ask a question about that issue. It really doesn't work to post a picture of a book and ask someone to implement the design.
@Sebastiano also is that pdf really supposed to be on the web in that form? Why the obfuscated link via google?
@Sebastiano a word of advice: in general, questions like yours do not seem to add value to the site. They are too broad and show no effort from your part to help others in looking towards a solution. It is always desirable to write minimal yet fully compilable code and constructively add new elements later on. Your approach needs to be bottom/up and not top/down. >>>
@Sebastiano >>> And there's also the learning part involved. You need to aggregate things you've learned and allow other people to benefit from them. Sadly, as they are, your questions do not offer a didactic material to others, only for yourself. And even so, you do not seem to understand what is going on...
@PauloCereda: I've forgotten which register JE evaluates to make the test ... I've not used this for about 20 years ago, in the last days before I installed Linux on my machine and did not longer programming on DOS (!!!)
@TeXnician It was more fun that what the usual compilers provided: 16 Colors standard or at least 256 colors with Mode 13 ... and it was somewhat faster. But of course, software and hardware is by fare more sophisticated nowadays
@Sebastiano: when you have a spare time, check the manuals of bclogo, tcolorbox and mdframed. Those three might give you good pointers on how to achieve the look you want for your documents.
I would like to build a source, for my with the main features of the text in the link:
Fundamentals of Modern Physics
Exactly I do not want the faithful reproduction of the text of the book but have to have the basic or fundamental parts. I would like to understand what are the main packages to...
Hello, welcome to TeX.sx! I am afraid you posted your question in the wrong place. We are about TeX, LaTeX, ConTeX, typography and other wacky stuff. — Paulo Cereda7 mins ago
@ChristianHupfer -- oh yes, indeed! in english, also has the meaning of "something widely believed but not true". but the source could be intentional, not just "by error"; certainly if a canard is published, it means that whoever was responsible for spreading it at the very least hadn't properly done their homework.
@Sebastiano As @Ulrike already mentioned, answering your question would take up hours of time, followed by follow-up question (hence the name). This is a very lot to ask for free. Time takes money, which means the helper invest money in you. You can get help by great La/TeX advisors, but this service is not for free. Actually paying someone to do what you ask for will be in the range of (estimated) 200 to 500 Dollar. Some services would take 1000 Dollar to do the job.
[ yes, this is "primarily opinion based;" VTC if you must ]
In Literate Programming Knuth wrote:
... I chose PASCAL as the programming language ... ; it is not my favorite language for system programming, but it has become a
“second language” for so many programmers that it
provides an e...
@JosephWright Nope. That is a book with chapters according to the publisher, so I have to cite it as such.
They just named it as if it is a journal.
@JosephWright Yeah, but Chapter name doesn't work, there is no way to use it. I'm having to hack it by making booktitle = {\textup{Chemistry of Transition Metal Cyanide Compounds: Modern Perspectives. In} Prog. Inorg. Chem.},
and booktitle={\textup{Remarkable Luminescence Behaviors and Structural Variations of Two-Coordinate Gold(I) Complexes, In} Photofunctional Transition Metal Complexes},
@JosephWright So will this problem go away when I move to using Dalton's citation style?
@egreg -- certainly not all together on one pizza! and i definitely question strawberries and cream (much better on biscuit shortcake). but what's wrong with anchovies or garlic?
@PauloCereda Yeah, but if he didn't care about it, and wanted as many programmers to be able to read it as possible, C would be the choice today as everyone encounters it, and it is the base for basically every other langage used today (Go, C++, C#, Java....)
So if you use any of those you'd have C as your second language
@Canageek Algorithms are sequences of steps, reproduceable sequences, and have complexity. You are entering inside something deeply subjective, which is how one can express an algorithm. It's a semiotic process.
It's challeging, to say the least. :)
@Canageek: we could use the tabs vs. spaces debate and suggest the usage of Whitespace. That will teach them. :)
\centerline{\includegraphics{...}}
Does this without any hspace trickery.
Or with the explanation of egreg The \centerline command should never be used in a LaTeX document (unless you know precisely what you're doing, and probably only in the preamble for some definition)
The \centerline command should never be used in a LaTeX document (unless you know precisely what you're doing, and probably only in the preamble for some definition). Use
\begin{figure}[htp]
\centering
<whatever>
\end{figure}
and <whatever> (a graphic, a TikZ picture or anything) will be cen...
Alright, I just got feedback from a paper and the reviewer told me that the issue is that I compiled my version of the paper using pdflatex while easychair is compiling it with pdftex
@JérémieClos -- i think the reviewer must be missing something ... unless easychair has a check for, say \documentclass, and if found, silently processes with latex. that should be possible, although monumentally misleading.
@JérémieClos I don't really know what the issue is here. If I look into the Metadata it is reported that PDFTeX 1.40.17 has generated the file (using an example file here on my disk, compiled with pdflatex, however)
@JérémieClos -- ordinarily, the first line of a file intended for latex begins with \documentclass. i'm assuming that easychair is not simply a (la)tex processor, so there are probably checking facilities (which you said there are), which could look to see what your source file begins with and then "do the right thing".
@JérémieClos Easy way? Set up a free easychair account, make a fake confrence and submit the paper to it and see what errors it gives
@JérémieClos Oh, it has a demo version if you have a free account "When you are running a conference using EasyChair and would like to know or test its various features, you can create a demo version and make experiments using this demo version."
@JérémieClos Apparently you're really using \documentclass, so LaTeX is the format. Usually pdftex in its literally meaning is meant to compile Plain TeX, not LaTeX, so naturally pdftex will choke on a LaTeX file
Other dumb, possibly related question: what could drive texniccenter to tell me it generated a 0 page document when it actually generated the entire document?
@Canageek 2 hours? That's really long. It takes about 40minutes here (and we don't have a really fast connection, but in a few month, it will be boosted)
@ChristianHupfer There are only 3 repositories in Canada, none in Western Canada, and I haven't found a fast one based on the west coast US.
@ChristianHupfer Thus why I think there should be a download tooll that grabs a small package from each one, and picks the fastest, like a tool I used on Debian
@Canageek Ah, damn, I thought there would be some information about setting up a TL mirror (for public access), but I confused it with the CTAN site -- there is some information how to do that
@ChristianHupfer I mean who to talk to at my university. I'm guessing they don't just give out space like that. I know there is a CS club that does it at UWaterloo, but they are famous for engineering and CS, so....
@ChristianHupfer Right now it is guessing 12 minutes for 225 updates
@UlrikeFischer When I'm updating them at work for people on their laptops?
@UlrikeFischer Or realize that I need to install it on a new computer while writing?
@UlrikeFischer I changed it for 2+ hours to under 40 minutes by moving from the default sever (somewhere in the states) to UWaterloo (One city over). Why am I doing this manually? That should be built in.
@Canageek well the first time I wanted to install a tex system I had to order diskettes and wait a few days until they came by snail mail and then invest a few hours to get them on my pc. So don't expect from me too much understanding for the "I want everything at once and fast".
@JosephWright We've had this argument before. That is a physical book you buy, not a journal. You can't just say "that looks like a journal to me" when it is a big hardback book.
@Canageek Yes you can: you are giving it an abbreviation, that doesn't happen for books (plus of course historically all journals were printed and bound up to look like books)
Fine then: @inbook{Balch2007, title = {Remarkable Luminescence Behaviors and Structural Variations of Two-Coordinate Gold(I) Complexes}, author="Balch, Alan L.", publisher="Springer Berlin Heidelberg", editor="Yam, Vivian W. W.", booktitle={\textup{Remarkable Luminescence Behaviors and Structural Variations of Two-Coordinate Gold(I) Complexes, In} Photofunctional Transition Metal Complexes}, year="2007", address="Berlin, Heidelberg", pages="1--40", isbn="978-3-540-36810-6", doi="10.1007/430_2006_049",
@Canageek -- grabbing different packages from different mirrors is very chancy; they're not all guaranteed to be synchronized, and then you'd have different problems. also, why don't you devote the time to get one good complete download, then put it on a usb stick and distribute from that.
@Canageek -- this has been discussed here before. @daleif is one person who has dealt with that problem (distributing to a bunch of other users); this should ping him ... and maybe he can help.
@Canageek -- there are often some major changes in key components, and if everything isn't synched, the problems become very mysterious and hard to diagnose. you really do want to have all versions of all packages compatible. for 2017, there will be major changes in the latex core. (just a lurker in that regard, but it does raise one's consciousness.)
@barbarabeeton Huh. Weird. I mean, not reusing the directory makes sense, but couldn't you make a new install, then just copy any unchanged files over from the old one to save CTAN a ton of bandwidth?
@barbarabeeton The core TeX stuff, the executables and whatnot, are pretty small compared to the packages.
@inbook{Verdaguer2005, title = {Magnetic Prussian blue analogs}, author = {Verdaguer, M. and Girolami, G.}, publisher = {Wiley-VCH Verlag GmbH \& Co.}, pages = {283--346}, booktitle = {\textup{Magnetic Prussian blue analogs. In} Magnetoscience: molecules to materials}, year = {2005}, volume = {V}, editor = {J. S. Miller and M. Drillon}, city = {Weinheim}, }
@incollection{WingWahYam2007, address = {Berlin, Heidelberg}, author = {{Wing-Wah Yam}, Vivian and {Chung-Chin Cheng}, Eddie}, booktitle = {\textup{Photochemistry and Photophysics of Coordination Compounds: Gold. In} Photochemistry and Photophysics of Coordination Compounds II}, doi = {10.1007/128_2007_127}, pages = {269--309}, publisher = {Springer}, series = {Topics in Current Chemistry}, title = {{Photochemistry and Photophysics of Coordination Compounds: Gold}}, volume = {281}, year = {2007}
@inbook{Heintz2007, title = {Chemistry of Transition Metal Cyanide Compounds: Modern Perspectives}, author = {Dunbar, Kim R. and Heintz, Robert A.}, publisher = {John Wiley \& Sons, Inc.}, isbn = {9780470166468}, doi = {10.1002/9780470166468.ch4}, pages = {283--391}, booktitle = {\textup{Chemistry of Transition Metal Cyanide Compounds: Modern Perspectives. In} Prog. Inorg. Chem.}, year = {2007}, }
@JosephWright See, it has chapters, therefore it is a book.
@JosephWright Do you need more examples? I think I might have a couple more
@Canageek -- i'm not a good person to ask about that. the system i work on is updated at most once a year, and frozen for the duration once it's stable. (when working on a major project, or in a production environment, stability is essential.) what's more, we keep several (stable) versions available, easily selectable. "ad hoc" packages are stored with the project, not in the library. not typical.
@Canageek Will be a few minutes: have to remind myself of the set up for this
\RequirePackage{filecontents}
\begin{filecontents*}{\jobname.bib}
@inbook{Example,
title = {Remarkable Luminescence Behaviors and Structural Variations of Two-Coordinate Gold(I) Complexes},
author="Balch, Alan L.",
publisher="Springer Berlin Heidelberg",
editor="Yam, Vivian W. W.",
booktitle={Photofunctional Transition Metal Complexes},
year="2007",
address="Berlin, Heidelberg",
pages="1--40",
isbn="978-3-540-36810-6",
doi="10.1007/430_2006_049",
volume = {123},
series = {Structure and Bonding}
@JosephWright My real question is how much work it is going to be reformatting this for RSC later this week
@JosephWright We planned on this going to an ACS (Cryst Growth Des or IC) but I was never able to get EAs so we are trying Dalton, then their crystal jouranl
@Canageek @barbarabeeton when some of our students run install parties, I usually prepare 20 USBs for then. Then will contain a copy of (Rex live) tlnet from an up to date mirror, a copy of mactex plus some editors.
Students are asked to copy the stuff they need on to their hard drive and pass on the USB to the next person. Installing directly from the USB is also possible, but slow on Windows (fast on linux). Getting a copy of the tlnet folder on a mirror is easy using rsync (and a mirror that supports it).
@Canageek magic, the tl people already build that in. The contents of the installer program isat the root of the tlnet folder, so I guess it tests if the file are already there, and just uses them.
@Canageek No idea: as I've pointed out before, elements of their template (the sensible bits) look like some stuff I wrote some years ago, but I've had no formal request for any input ...
@Canageek Oh that: I do get tipped off about some of these
@Canageek tug.org/texlive/acquire-mirror.html at the bottom. This way of installing is not common, thus us not promoted as much. The comment about permissions on Windows has never been an issue on the installs we've made. Though, I always recommend using the advanced installer, and then just use the standard settings on Windows.
@UlrikeFischer My first LaTeX system was emTeX in 1996 and was shipped out on bunch of (7?) 3,5in floppy disks and installation was pretty awful.... @Canageek
@JosephWright Nice. My Dad and I have about 5 or 6 C64s, a few disk drives, some of which work, and 2 monitors, one of which we know works, one I dropped and might work
@Canageek I'm old enough to think of a hard disk as a Winchester (invented at the IBM facility there): when I was at school we had some old CP/M machines using this type of 'big' hard disk
@ChristianHupfer Sold almost all of my RPG collection, and making some big dents in my fiction collection. Got $200 for Star Wars toys, comics, kids' books, novels + one of the shrink-wrapped books, and a box of old D&D 3.5 & 4E books
So with that, I'm getting close to 2 months rent :D
@UlrikeFischer thanks for the composite character code as well I'll experiment at the weekend, I had no power for most of today so couldn't really do anything after the laptop ran out of battery:-)
[ yes, this is "primarily opinion based;" VTC if you must ]
In Literate Programming Knuth wrote:
... I chose PASCAL as the programming language ... ; it is not my favorite language for system programming, but it has become a
“second language” for so many programmers that it
provides an e...
\centerline{\includegraphics{...}}
Does this without any hspace trickery.
The \centerline command should never be used in a LaTeX document (unless you know precisely what you're doing, and probably only in the preamble for some definition). Use
\begin{figure}[htp]
\centering
<whatever>
\end{figure}
and <whatever> (a graphic, a TikZ picture or anything) will be cen...
