TeX, LaTeX and Friends

@JosephWright I spent some time (just looking at pdf) trying to parse a sentence and think of a replacement then noticed in the source the first half of the sentence had % at the front:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle @barbarabeeton sent me the chagnes with comments: I basically accepted them all and re-wrapped, but must have missed a %

@DavidCarlisle Fixed

David Carlisle

@JosephWright ah we can blame @barbarabeeton I also added a comma earlier (not got to the end yet) but:

-In addition to the documentation distributed with \pkg{l3build} the project
+In addition to the documentation distributed with \pkg{l3build}, the project

Joseph Wright

Right, how starred my comment about latex.ltx?

David Carlisle

10:00 AM

@JosephWright not guilty

@JosephWright \tl_-, \char_- I'd be tempted not to hyphenate command names, and to only allow breaking at _ not between letters (that's what I do for function names at work for languages using _ names.)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Isn't that coming from ltnews or something?

David Carlisle

@JosephWright oh probably, but there are (almost) no _ separated strings there:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Probably true: I guess it just sets up 'hyphenation inside \cs'

@DavidCarlisle On the other hand, in my day job we see hyphenation inside chemical formulae, which also is a bit odd but keeps them justified in two-column layouts

David Carlisle

Apart from the command and hyphens it looks fine but I'd make the final section a paragraph, looks a bit odd as a list with the second starting "if the first item..."

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle OK

egreg

10:11 AM

@JosephWright Something like “KM-nO4”?

Joseph Wright

@egreg Yes

egreg

@JosephWright WOW!

Joseph Wright

@egreg Well, almost: KMn-O4, you can't break an element symbol

egreg

@JosephWright That's what I hoped for!

Joseph Wright

@egreg Tends to be in longer cases, where it gets hard to fit into a line at all otherwise: I'll look for a real example

@egreg 'FI = 2-O-C6H4-CH=NC6H5' in pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2014/DT/… breaks between C6H4 and CH even though written on one line there'd be no hyphen there, for example

I've seen worse

@DavidCarlisle I've checked in the corrects: I guess @barbarabeeton can grab the news for TUGboat

David Carlisle

10:20 AM

@JosephWright I'd probably add this but it doesn't matter

\makeatletter
\protected\edef\cs#1{%
\noexpand\path{\@backslashchar#1}%
}
\makeatother

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Done

Joseph Wright

12:17 PM

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egreg

12:37 PM

@JosephWright We could have a few reasons when closing as unclear.

Joseph Wright

@egreg Yes: I stumbled across this from meta.stackexchange.com/questions/285889/…

manetsus

12:54 PM

Is it a good idea to make presentation slides using latex?

David Carlisle

@manetsus that's not a question that's answerable:-) What else would you use?

manetsus

@DavidCarlisle Power Point of Microsoft?

David Carlisle

@manetsus I tried that once (because a meeting mandated it) I can't say it was a pleasant experience:-)

manetsus

@DavidCarlisle What should I look first to make presentation slides in Latex?

David Carlisle

@manetsus beamer

manetsus

12:58 PM

@DavidCarlisle Thanks a lot :)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright ^^^^ then if it all goes wrong we can blame you

@manetsus actually I'm as likely to just use a browser these days there are several quite nice css/javascript templates look for example at w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle Oh no, that word

:-)

David Carlisle

1:24 PM

\documentclass{article}
\def\q{pl\a\par\ifnum\thepage}
\def\a{ates}
\def\z{00 \expandafter\t\fi}
\def\t{tem\q<100\z}
\begin{document}
\t
\end{document}

@Johannes_B for you^^ when you are feeling stressed

Johannes_B

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Joseph Wright

2:28 PM

@DavidCarlisle Not so good perhaps for making printable handouts (though I guess doable using CSS)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright I don't think I've given or been to a talk with printed handouts since the 1980's :-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Probably because you are not a university lecturer ...

David Carlisle

@JosephWright for the talk I gave on github this week I actually started with beamer but decided to have no slides at all and just did a live demo:-)

manetsus

David Carlisle

@JosephWright is there anybody who likes those ^^^ :-)

manetsus

2:32 PM

In almost all of the beamer theme, I see this bar. Is it okay? or is there anyway to remove it?

Joseph Wright

@manetsus Yes, I do (and I'm the beamer maintainer!)

manetsus

@JosephWright Wow, how to do it?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Strangely yes, even if these days of tablets, etc. Even for the latter you need a version that has the text on that's not on the slides, so I have a set up to make three versions from the source

@manetsus \setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{}

@manetsus I use a very simple layout:

\documentclass
  [
%    handout % Printable version, no colour
  ]{beamer}

% ----------------------------------------------------------------------
% Some simple settings for appearance
% ----------------------------------------------------------------------
\definecolor{UEAgrey}{RGB}{90,90,95}
\definecolor{UEAorange}{RGB}{250,166,26}

\setbeamercolor{alerted text}{fg = UEAorange}

\setbeamercolor{structure}{fg = black}
\setbeamerfont{structure}{series = \bfseries}

\setbeamerfont{title}{series = \bfseries}

(My employer is called UEA, hence the colour names)

manetsus

@JosephWright Thanks a lot. It is working

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle To be fair, that's not that dissimilar in concept to beamer: code input resulting in slides as output, rather than a gui-based approach

manetsus

2:37 PM

@JosephWright How to manipulate title page? Say, I want to add my supervisors name and picture in one page and in another page, I want to add my name and my partners name with picture.

Joseph Wright

@manetsus The title page in beamer (or anything, really) is just a pre-defined set of instructions one can ignore entirely and do things 'by hand'

@manetsus You could use \maketitle on two slides and simple alter \author and \titlegraphic between them

manetsus

@JosephWright Okay. I am trying.

Joseph Wright

\documentclass{beamer}

\title{Some things I did}
\author{A. N. Other \dots}
\titlegraphic{A picture!}

\begin{document}

\begin{frame}
  \maketitle
\end{frame}

\title{Some things I did}
\author{\dots with some other dudes}
\titlegraphic{A different picture!}

\begin{frame}
  \maketitle
\end{frame}

\end{document}

Bozeno Bozilson

Hey people! I am tring to put double column in Footnote space but now Latex give a error that I can not solve... Please help me... Here the code:

\documentclass[11pt]{article}
\usepackage[a4paper,left=0.5cm,right=0.5cm,top=0.8cm,bottom=0.5cm,footskip=0.1cm,headsep=0.2cm]{geometry}
\usepackage{polyglossia}
\defaultfontfeatures{Ligatures=TeX}
\setmainlanguage{brazil}
\setmainfont{Arial Unicode MS}
\usepackage{alltt}
\usepackage{dblfnote}
\usepackage{multicol}
\pagenumbering{Roman}

\begin{document}
\begin{multicols}{2}

Entre o Sono e Sonho
\begin{alltt}\normalfont
Entre o sono\footnote{sleep} e o sonho\footnote{dream},
Entre\footnote{between} mim e o que em mim

manetsus

@JosephWright picture is not showing!

@JosephWright Oh, got it. I gave the path of the picture. but it should be like \includegraphics[height=1cm]{./varsityLogo}

@JosephWright but the problem is, I have to add two photos in the second page. And below the authors, I have to add their dept, designation etc.

egreg

2:52 PM

@BozenoBozilson Better a proper question on the site

Joseph Wright

3:06 PM

@manetsus You should have the graphics 'somewhere TeX can find them' and not use a path for each one (I use \graphicspath to allow me to have a figures directory for each document, as this makes sense for the kind of graphics I use in talks)

@manetsus All relatively standard: beamer has various meta-data holders and you can put what you like actually in them

Bozeno Bozilson

3:31 PM

@egreg Now I fixes a lot of things... But... Now appear that capacity of Latex is exceeded

manetsus

@JosephWright how to manipulate them and how to get the predefined code for title page?

David Carlisle

@BozenoBozilson almost always that means that you have made an infinite loop somewhere

Bozeno Bozilson

4:13 PM

@DavidCarlisle Yes, but I can not find this...

\documentclass[11pt]{book}
\usepackage[a4paper,left=0.5cm,right=0.5cm,top=0.8cm,bottom=0.5cm,footskip=0.1cm,headsep=0.2cm]{geometry}
\usepackage{titlesec}
\usepackage{polyglossia}
\defaultfontfeatures{Ligatures=TeX}
\setmainlanguage{brazil}
\setotherlanguage[variant=ancient]{greek}
\setmainfont{Arial Unicode MS}
\usepackage{expex}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage{alltt}
\usepackage{dblfnote}
\usepackage{multicol}
\titleformat{\chapter}[display]
{\normalfont\filcenter}
{\LARGE\MakeUppercase{\chaptertitlename} \thechapter}

David Carlisle

4:28 PM

rather a lot of code for chat:-) it stopped after 5000 pages, how many pages did you expect?

@BozenoBozilson no time now I'd just move the \end{multicols}\end{document} up to the file until the error goes, to see where it's looping

Bozeno Bozilson

@DavidCarlisle hahah is just 6-7 Pages! I stopped with +5000 pages too!

egreg

@BozenoBozilson I guess that dblfnote and multicol don't go along

Bozeno Bozilson

@egreg Putz... Really? Have another way to do this

?

egreg

4:45 PM

@BozenoBozilson dblfnote hasn't been updated since 1999

Bozeno Bozilson

Yeah... That is a problem...

egreg

@BozenoBozilson I think you should have a look at the reledmac package

Bozeno Bozilson

@egreg I will see!

Joseph Wright

Oh goodness, people keep starring my comment from earlier!

yo'

5:59 PM

Please, America, do not vote for Trump. I can tell you, Zeman times thirty is not something this world needs.

egreg

@yo' Zeman<sup>30</sup>, you mean

yo'

@egreg Well, I hoped it wouldn't make any difference when the base is zero, but unfortunately it seems to do.

Have you seen the recent Dalailama shame?

Johannes_B

@yo' Let's just vote for common sense.

yo'

@Johannes_B common sense is not to remove a Holocaust survival from the list of Czech highest medal awardees because his nephew (who's our minister of culture) met with Dalailama.

Johannes_B

6:28 PM

@yo' Sorry. Common sense is not about medals, or people. It is just abut common sense.

yo'

@Johannes_B it's about people in that everybody shall have it.

Johannes_B

@yo' amount of common sense is decaying.

yo'

@Johannes_B I want chemtrails of common sense!

Johannes_B

@yo' Oh, my boy, i can tell you a'lo about chemtrails. U'see em'?

yo'

6:58 PM

@Johannes_B Every now and then they're spraying, yeah...

Stefan Kottwitz

7:11 PM

@Johannes_B Is chemtrails.sty written by Clemens?

yo'

@StefanKottwitz @Joseph maybe...

Joseph Wright

@yo' Nope

Stefan Kottwitz

@yo' Perhaps he told me in Oxford, but I was geblitzdingst.

yo'

@StefanKottwitz hchkrdtn.

Stefan Kottwitz

@yo' you omitted accented characters :-)

yo'

7:20 PM

@StefanKottwitz there're none in this one. they are here: žřščřcjďťň

(I don't make these up; the are the hard and soft consonants. Note that we have ambiguous ones, too: bflmpsvz)

Stefan Kottwitz

@yo' Ah, from the kids' first learning book

yo'

@StefanKottwitz basically, yes :) But it's in the second lesson that the caron ˇ can migrate to the following vowel if it's "e" and is omitted if it's "i"

Stefan Kottwitz

@yo' I know the caron aka háček from my girlfriends face, in a good mood it turns to a breve.

yo'

@StefanKottwitz I lost you I think :)

Stefan Kottwitz

@yo' me too! >:-)

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