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12:29 AM
Hi, I decided to load up an old thesis i wrote a year a go in lynx to get familiar with the tools again. But i keep getting unkown floating option H. The document worked fine before, I assume something was changed during the updates?
 
12:52 AM
lyx*
 
1:04 AM
What is the difference between table and table*? I swear I knew a couple of years ago but Google apparently doesn't understand the difference.
 
@ShashankSawant try googling with the word asterisk
not *
 
Nopes... that doesn't do it either...
Here are the top three results I got:
4
Q: Align numbers with numbers and asterisks in table by decimal point

deboerkI have created the following table with numbers and asterisks in it. Now I would like to align the numbers by decimal points. I included the package dcolumn and defined a new column type: \newcolumntype{d}[1]{D{.}{.}{#1}}. Then I replaced {ccccc} by {d{2.0}d{1.2}d{2.2}d{2.3}d{1.2}} and ended ...

What's the generic function of the *?
In this case I am referring to it being used at the start of an environment.
 
@ShashankSawant It is used for making the table appear at different places depending on the context
Everything you need to know is here
224
Q: How to influence the position of float environments like figure and table in LaTeX?

Marco DanielHow to influence the position of float environments like figure and table in LaTeX? This is a general question and should collect useful answers for all users. I hope we can use this as a reference

An asterisk is a typical choice by the package authors to change the meaning of a macro slightly by keeping the essence of the functionality
Same applies to figure and figure* or in math context align and align*
 
@percusse Thanks!
 
1:58 AM
Sorry for yet another Google quagmire. What do `<` and `>` do in terms of alignment in `tabularx`? For instance:
`\begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{>{\centering}p{3cm} c >{\centering}p{2cm} >{\centering}p{2cm} >{\centering}p{2cm} p{2cm}<{\centering}}`
I am the one who wrote the code but I completely forgot.
*but I have completely forgotten.
English is not my native language.
Found it!
The answer is in the array package.
 
 
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4:53 AM
Good maen;-)
 
kan
@ChristianHupfer Yo!
 
@kan: ;-)
 
5:45 AM
@Sidar You need \usepackage{float} to use the H specifier. LyX should add that automatically when you select 'Here definitely' in the float settings, but if that somehow has been removed, you can add it back in, in Document --> Settings --> LaTeX preamnble.
 
6:34 AM
@DavidCarlisle: What is the maximum value a counter can assume? Is it something like 2^15? Is an overrun possible?
 
 
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7:48 AM
@JosephWright vvvvvvv
@HeikoOberdiek End of the thread for me too. Your contribution wasn't helpful, therefore no point in continuing the thread. — BlackMagic 3 hours ago
 
@Johannes_B Will take a look
 
@JosephWright Thanks.
 
@Johannes_B: That guy is some kind of pain in the neck ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer It is a pity, he should be thankful.
@HeikoOberdiek Thank you for your work on hyperref (and endless other packages).
 
@Johannes_B: I think so!
 
7:56 AM
@Johannes_B I get the feeling the problem here is the common misunderstanding about PDFs: a lot of people see features in one viewer and think it's 'standard' behaviour
 
@JosephWright Yep, i think that is the culprit here.
@JosephWright I didn't want to flag the comment/conversation but thought you should know nonetheless.
 
@Johannes_B Also, not many people bother to actually read the spec
@Johannes_B Understood: it's probably a no-action one unless there is actual 'trouble', but worth knowing about
 
Good morning, lads.
 
@JosephWright: I am no expert in the PDF specification, but I believe, that even Adobe does not fulfil its specification in their non - commercial products such as the Reader, so much for 'standard'
 
@ChristianHupfer What I meant is that a lot of behaviours aren't actually covered by the standard, so different viewers are free to do whatever
 
7:59 AM
@henry: good morning
 
@ChristianHupfer JavaScript in PDFs is a real classic, of course
 
@JosephWright: Yes, I understood your statement that way ;-) I just wanted to add that not even Adobe does regard the specifications of their own format (at least I have the impression)
 
@ChristianHupfer They don't feel limited to only implementing what the standard covers, certainly
@ChristianHupfer As I say, the thing is there is quite a bit that is not covered anyway, so each developer is free to do what they like
 
@JosephWright: Which is not wrong as you don't rely on it to find it in another product ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer Yes, of course
 
8:04 AM
@JosephWright: Off-topic question: What is the maximal value a counter can assume?
 
@ChristianHupfer 2^31 - 1 = 2147483647
 
Happy Talk Like A Pirate Day!
 
@Johannes_B: As a koma-expert
 
@PauloCereda Oh argh, Jim lad
 
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Q: Can I use \singlespacing to define captions to have singlespacing distance?

henryI'd like to try and format my captions with single-line spacing. A brief search lead me to this post on komascript.de, in which Markus wrote: Du kannst der Schrift für caption wahlweise ein \linespread{1}\selectfont oder die entsprechende setspace-Anweisung hinzufügen. \singlespacing sollte ...

 
8:06 AM
:)
 
@PauloCereda: Ah, the four-eyed - double-personality called Paulo 'The-Skull' ;-)
@JosephWright: ok, thanks ... I am on the safe side ;-)
 
@henry @ChristianHupfer i am no KOMA-expert. And i thougt package setspace would reset to singlespacing in cpations by default. Might be mistaken.
 
@henry: Don't believe @Johannes_B: He is our 'KOMA' - Guru :D
@Johannes_B: By the way: What about our Banana-On-the-Backseat guy?
 
@ChristianHupfer Almost no traffic on latex-community in the past days. None of Michael.
 
@Johannes_B: What's the problem there? Is LC unknown?
 
8:13 AM
@ChristianHupfer Not as known as TeX.sx of course.
 
So Scotland sticks to the UK for now. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes
 
@Johannes_B: Well anyway, if you google for some TeX topic this will provide links to LC nevertheless, but most time not on top
@PauloCereda: I thought the vote would be closer to 50 % than the current 54% (last information I have)
 
@Johannes_B: At 5th place ... it could be worse ;-)
 
8:17 AM
Song of Patriotic Prejudice ^^^
 
Hopefully I've given some form of answer to @percusse's question: meta.tex.stackexchange.com/a/4623
 
@Johannes_B: Ok, it is worse :D
@JosephWright: percusse has a question on Meta? Never heard of it .... /* lie - mode off */
 
@ChristianHupfer Came out about as I expected
 
@JosephWright: My comment or percusse's question?
 
8:21 AM
@ChristianHupfer The Scotland vote
 
@JosephWright: Well, for a non-Briton it's difficult to make any assumptions/comment on this topic, I keep silent on this
 
@ChristianHupfer 2^30 -1 (\maxdimen)
 
@ChristianHupfer To be honest, for people living in Scotland it's tricky so ...
 
@DavidCarlisle: Thanks ... Joseph answered it already, but again: thanks
 
@DavidCarlisle My notes say 2^31 - 1
I see @percusse's meta question now makes the community sidebar (some SO stuff has vanished)
 
8:25 AM
@JosephWright: I believe that in the long run the disadvantages would overweigh the advantages of a Scottish independence, spoken from an international viewpoint
 
@ChristianHupfer My take too, but I see it really as about emotion really: it's a big enough place that independence is viable, so it's about how people feel. That's very tricky to judge from the outside.
@ChristianHupfer Anyway, settled for at least a few years :-)
 
@Johannes_B @ChristianHupfer So you mean Markus is right... right?
 
@JosephWright er yes 31 not 30 @ChristianHupfer
@JosephWright it's rather easy the to vote "then" (I assume?)
 
@JosephWright: Yes, that's what I meant: It's difficult for a person not living in the UK to empathize the emotions about independence/autonomy etc, so no comment on this special, but crucial aspect
@henry: Markus is one of the developpers of KOMA -- I assume he knows 'his' bundle, but I am no expert on KOMA
 
@henry vvvvvvv
\documentclass{scrartcl}
\usepackage[doublespacing]{setspace}
\usepackage{blindtext}
\begin{document}
\blindtext
\footnote{\blindtext}
\captionof{figure}{\blindtext}
\begin{table}
	\caption{\blindtext}
\end{table}
\end{document}
 
8:34 AM
@DavidCarlisle Fixed
 
@JosephWright: If in Germany, say, Bavaria would declare independence, this would be very hard for the rest of the country, from an economical point of view. If Berlin (not only the capital, but also a own state in the federation) would say 'Goodbye', there would be a great party in whole Germany I assume : The inhabitants of Berlin would celebrate and the rest of Germany would do so too, being glad to get rid off Berlin ;-)
I know I am a bad guy ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer That was not my question. After 7 years, something might have changed.
 
@henry: Sorry, I have no clue on this: I did not track the changes. Markus' statement might be still correct
 
@henry Especially after the last big update. I don't have any old versions to check right now, but there is a high probability that Markus had something built-in.
@henry What do you get with the above minimal example?
 
Do you want a screenshot or...?
Hm, the first caption if in doublespacing, the second is not.
Imgur is somehow buggy for me at the moment, will restart FF, brb
 
8:46 AM
@henry You can also describe the spacing. Text, float, captionof and footnote.
 
@ChristianHupfer on the other hand, everybody cheered for the union of eastern and western germany, too. A perpetual party-mobile!
 
From setspace.sty -> 2. Double spacing is turned off within footnotes and floats (figures and tables).
 
the second caption
might Markus meant some additional vspace above or below the caption?
*maybe
 
@henry So the table (float) caption is indeed single spaced. Just as package setspace documents it.
 
Yes. I am a bit confused as to how you cam to use \doublespacing though.
... ah, I didn't write \onehalfspacing in the question. Edited it.
And using it in the MWE, it still seems to be single-spaced.
 
8:51 AM
@henry I used doublespacing only to make the differences more obvious.
@henry What i want you to understand is: Captions are set singlespaced by pure default. There might something else going on in your document.
 
@Johannes_B Oh ok.
 
@henry Of course, package setspace doesn't know of KOMAs captionof (also provided by packages capt-of and caption). There you have to set it manually (best using etoolbox and adding the commands). But right now, i gotta go.
See you guys. Behave. ;-)
 
@Johannes_B Thank you though.
Can confirm that adding the linespread option decreases the vspace a tiiiiiny bit.
 
9:16 AM
@Harald: Yes, my statement about Bavaria or Berlin was just my impression on Germans' feelings about each other, not a personal opinion
 
@henry I guess that KOMA-Script sets single spacing in table and figure environments, because \captionof simply calls the same command as \caption, after setting the “caption type”. Since \captionof should not be used at the outer level, but only inside an environment, one might think to add \singlespacing to it. But as \captionof should be rarely used at all…
 
@egreg I am quite lost with your statement. The MWE used \captionof just for demonstrative purposes I think. I mean of course I make use of \captionof at some points in my big document but ... um, yes. Well it works.
Essentially it does not seem to matter, whether I define the line-spacing or not, but rather safe than sorry I say.
@egreg Sorry if that seemed abrupt, I am currently deep in focus on something else and couldn't compute your message at first. I appreciate the comments on this. :)
 
@egreg You seem to be more a fan of captionof than of [H] ...
 
@tohecz In my answer to @henry's question I tell what's the usage for \captionof.
 
@egreg ah yeah. In the second case I'd probably use [H]. Oh, I woudln't ever do that at all I think :D
 
9:31 AM
@egreg Again, I am genuinely confused as to why you mention \captionof in your reply in the thread as well.
I can't put it any more clear than that. :)
 
9:47 AM
@henry Is my edit explaining better?
 
@egreg so my answer was completely wrong but hopefully I'll still get the tick:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle For once you can't say your answer is shorter than mine.
 
@egreg why wouldn't you want rightskip glue though? I 'm sure the OP just didn't want spaces within the line, really whatever he said in the question:-)
 
10:05 AM
@DavidCarlisle Why adding glue if it's not necessary? :P However, I made my answer longer so you'll be satisfied.
@DavidCarlisle However I understand you: \badness has been added in 1989, so it's too recent for you.
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10:23 AM
Mdframed is weird
! Missing number, treated as zero.<to be read again>. \ProcessKeyvalOptions sigh
 
Has anyone noticed that there is a bug in the representation of quotation marks?
 
@IceBoy What bug?
 
If you use them in the title of a question you get the correct "66" and "99" form, but if you use them in the body of the question you only get the "99"?
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Q: How do you read the symbol "$\in$"?

Ice Boy A variable in an equation may be replaced by any of the numbers in its domain. The resulting equation may be either true or false. Here is another way to show that the domain of a variable $y$ is $\lbrace$$0, 1, 2, 3$$\rbrace$: $$y\in\lbrace 0, 1, 2, 3\rbrace$$ (Read $"y$ $\color\red{\text...

 
10:38 AM
@IceBoy When you use the straight double quotes in TeX you always get the closing quotes. I guess there is a mechanism for using the curly quotes in titles even if straight quotes are used (not in math mode).
@IceBoy If you use straight quotes in the body (not inside math), you get straight quotes, as far as I can see.
@IceBoy See your last paragraph, where the quotes are straight.
 
@egreg ya, that's when I gave up trying to figure it out :(
 
@IceBoy Using “ and ” is not difficult on my keyboard, but I often forget to use them, because in the editor I use for TeX pressing " is usuall sufficient to get either `` or '' depending on context (and pressing " twice gives the straight double quote).
 
10:54 AM
@egreg I see, thanks for your time :-)
 
11:06 AM
@egreg Yes, very much. Although you probably intended to say "Yes, you can use it, but you shouldn't. You do not need to worry about, except..."
@egreg Mucho gracias.
 
@henry You shouldn't be using double spacing to begin with. But I know it's not your fault.
 
@egreg I am not using double spacing.
Dude what is going on with everybody today!? :D
 
@henry So, where's the problem? ;-)
@DavidCarlisle I had to fix a fix of yours. :P
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Q: Problem of using natbib with showkeys

janmAfter updating from MacTex 2013 to MacTex 2014 natbib and showkeys stopped working together. Whenever pdflatex is processing a citation with both packages enabled, I receive the following error ./fail.tex:8: TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [main memory size=5000000]. \rlap #1->\hb@xt@ \z@ {#1\hss ...

@DavidCarlisle You should probably add in the documentation of showkeys that the package should be loaded after natbib.
 
@egreg You know... I am actually using a half-line spread. Mwahahahahaha *[insert devil's grin here]*
 
@henry You naughty boy!
 
11:16 AM
@egreg Um, just for the record I am not comfortable how this conversation turned out.
:)
hotlinking protection :/
 
@henry Yeah :(
 
Hi there: I do not really know what to search for, so I disturb you here:
Why does this not work:
`\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Linux Libertine O}

\begin{document}
\'ü $x$
\end{document}`
 
@henry Here it is
 
using lualatex in my case.
 
@egreg haha
 
11:21 AM
@egreg hm would it be better if showkeys try to delay to \AtBeginDocument
 
If someone knows a post, treating this case on this homepage here, please let me know.
 
@DavidCarlisle Likely so.
@LaRiFaRi A bug in luaotfload, I'd say. With xelatex there's no problem.
 
@egreg oh, ok. I will report that. Thank you for trying
@egreg I also notice that the accent was set to high with lualatex.
 
@egreg :-) :-)
 
@LaRiFaRi With \'{ü} there's no error, but indeed the accent is not good.
 
11:28 AM
@egreg but I know it's \hbadness not \badness (and I got a tick)
 
@DavidCarlisle :(
@DavidCarlisle And you still own Scotland.
 
@egreg yes, I noticed that. But I didn't understand why I need braces here but not in all the other cases: tex.stackexchange.com/a/202005
@egreg compiled with Xe for now and I will do a bug report. Thanks for your help
 
That feeling, when you notice your document does not compile anymore because you changed some customized commands you used somewhere, you got into your git repo (Git GUI, the pro I am), look at the history and find the commit that caused it, c&p the old definitions and it all works again.
... ooph.
 
12:29 PM
I just noticed that my answer tex.stackexchange.com/a/202010 is not 100 % left aligned. What am I missing?
The third sum is a bit more to the left.
 
12:47 PM
@LaRiFaRi \hphantom{{}={}} I assume (untested:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Was my first thought as well, but no.
this enlarges the distance too much
@DavidCarlisle ah, &\mathrel{\hphantom{=}} does the trick
strange, I could swear I have always seen my first version until now
will have to change some of my answers, I guess
 
@LaRiFaRi ah yes you'll get a bit of space added between the mathord of the hphantom and the following sum, when you've added the space internally. Somewhere there's a phantom macro that preserves the math class so \foo{=} is mathrel automatically, I wonder where that is (\bm has to do the same to preserve the math class while making it bold)
Who starred egreg's unhappiness? Most uncharitable.
 
@DavidCarlisle maybe you didn't see it but suggested it: tex.stackexchange.com/a/168008
 
1:04 PM
@LaRiFaRi Either \hphantom{{}={}} or \mathrel{\hphantom{=}}; \hphantom{...} by itself is an ordinary symbol, so the implicit {} at the start of left aligned columns in align does nothing, so you got only the space on the right with \hphantom{={}}. Embedding it in \mathrel makes it into a relation.
 
@egreg The first solution gets to wide here. As mentioned to David
 
@LaRiFaRi ah..
 
2:04 PM
can the wiki make text bold in textzzz ? (see my last answer on spaces:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle You can always add HTML
 
@JosephWright oh can I / I forgot about that
@JosephWright Heiko fixed it already:-)
 
2:23 PM
Good maen
 
2:35 PM
@egreg It looks like an angry U! :)
 
@PauloCereda Indeed.
@JosephWright For the bigint module, you can use either Heiko's or jfbu's
@JosephWright I believe I used Heiko's for my “Fibonacci fountain” answer.
 
@egreg I believe longtable can be used as well, mostly because of its author. :)
 
@PauloCereda I think you meant log table
 
2:58 PM
A command line YouTube audio player! Hell yeah!
 
@PauloCereda: Your computer is called 'Manchester'?
 
@ChristianHupfer ask @Paulo how many machines he's had before this one, add one, and you know the rank of Manchester University by the date of foundation ;)
 
@ChristianHupfer My netbook. :)
 
@PauloCereda: I think, David will be very pleased ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer I also have Oxford. :)
@tohecz <3
 
3:03 PM
Guess, how one of my computers is called:
 
@egreg Yes I know: I'm think 'long term'
 
3:16 PM
hi
how to print
- below +
 
\pm in mathmode, for sure
 
for square roots
square root of 9 is
+- 3
 
$ \pm 3 $
 
done
 
3:32 PM
 
@ChristianHupfer why?
 
@PauloCereda: lol
@DavidCarlisle: Because it's nuclear powered and has a weakness through which it can be attacked ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer I think there must have been an earlier thread I skipped over:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle: To what did you refer then?
 
@ChristianHupfer yes your picture, but I'm not sure the answer clarified why it was posted to a cricket^H^H^H^H^HTeX forum
 
3:40 PM
@DavidCarlisle: Paulo, tohecz and I were joking about hostnames of computers. The image is a hint how one of my machines is called
 
@ChristianHupfer ah, too subtle for me;-0
 
It's quite obvious that David abuses this forum for talking about crickets, which is by no means connected to TeX, contrary to such topics computer hostnames, cooking, indian food, ducks, black forest, black forest ducks, Czech beer ... and the correct recipe for pesto ... ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer you forgot the endless droning on about football (which was the original reason for introducing some cricket news as a counterbalance)
 
@DavidCarlisle: You are right... but I am no fan of football, so it's ok to ban that topic as well as cricket :-P
 
hi guys, anyone here that knows something about the latin modern math font ?
 
3:48 PM
@Kasper In what sense?
 
Well, in the sense why is the square root unicode symbol placed, like it is placed. It seems completely off to me:
all those blue symbols are from the latin modern font, but square root is placed way more down
 
@Kasper look at any tex math font it is the same, the height of the character determines the width of the bar over the argument
@Kasper a particularly unfortunate design choice in tex-the-program really as it makes it even harder than it would have been to share fonts between tex and everyone else
@Kasper see page 6 of ctan.mirrorcatalogs.com/support/pkfix-helper/encoding-samples.pdf
@JosephWright answer or close? (it must be a dup of something I suspect) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/202027/…
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure if I completely understand this. Other opentype math fonts that I use with XeLaTeX doesn't have this positioning it seems. At least XITS and Tex Gyre
 
@Kasper ah yes xetex and luatex can correct for this I think but classic tex has to have the sqrt sign low
 
@Kasper Where's the issue?
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\setmathfont{latinmodern-math.otf}
%\setmathfont{xits-math.otf}

\begin{document}

$\sqrt{-1}$

\end{document}
is fine in both cases
 
@Kasper That's MathJax, not TeX, so it's probably wrong ;-)
 
ppr
Is there a problem with the meta website : I cannot log anymore ...
 
@JosephWright no, it's not mathjax or tex
 
@Kasper Seriously, you'd be best checking on how say unicode-math handles this
@Kasper Says 'Mathjax Output'
 
but that is all fine, and xelatex is also fine, but the symbol itself, if you just use it in html with font-face:Latin Modern Math
then it is off
so if you press and hold s there, a pop up menu will appear, which shows some unicode symbols
 
4:06 PM
@Kasper yes that's what's happened for the last 30 years if you tried cmsy10 in anything other than tex as well, latin modern is just showing its heritage
 
@DavidCarlisle ah okay, I understand
One other thing I don't understand about Latin Modern is why they choosed to do different mathbb letters. Everything seems quite the same as Computer Modern except for mathbb
 
@Kasper well I don't know why but cm of course doesn't have blackboad bold and teh ams ones which are commonly used were designed to go with times rather than cm (as that is what the AMS were using for typesetting) so designing a new set is not an unreasonable idea
 
@DavidCarlisle Even Karl is using TikZ, you are running out of allies among the the people up there :P sourceforge.net/p/pgf/bugs/334
 
@DavidCarlisle ah, okay
 
@percusse I've got a silver badge
 
4:18 PM
@DavidCarlisle It doesn't seem to be a new designed set for latin modern though: tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/latex/bbold/…
 
@Kasper oh did they base it on Alan's font I didn't check
 
The problem is, if I send my math homework to my teacher, he thinks I made it with Word, because the blackboard symbols look so weird :P
 
@DavidCarlisle You mean a gray dot :)
 
4:32 PM
Hello @percusse
 
@JosephWright Hi
 
Well I've made a new font LMMath-bbfix that uses the mathbb and sqrt from the mathjax font. Not usefull for (xe)latex, but kind of usefull for me on the web.
 
5:30 PM
Is the chat frozen?
nope
 
5:43 PM
@percusse Frozen? :) Let it go, let it go... :)
 
6:47 PM
@PauloCereda let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
 
@PauloCereda good song, bad playback ;)
 
@Kasper weird depends on what you're used to, when teh amsfonts became available lots of people certainly English Mathematicians) thought they were pretty odd with natural numbers being |\\| rather than ||\ | I think Alan made bbold pretty much as a reaction to that
 
btw, @Paulo, would this be a good choice? gastroklub.cz/detail/rum-santos-dumont-xo-0-7-l-40-ru686-2
 
7:03 PM
@DavidCarlisle ah, that is true, I would handwrite it as ||\|
but I think I've never read a math book that doesn't use the ams bb symbols (or something look like that)
I guess after some while people get used to the strange |\\| and see it as the standard
 
 
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8:16 PM
@PauloCereda vvvv
 
@PaulGessler oh my duck!
 
@PaulGessler a bit high brow, I think this is more @PauloCereda
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@egreg if that's a problem for the OP I'm sure you could fix up the code to ensure I get the bounty, it would just need some minor adjustment:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I knew you would be chasing for it.
 
8:35 PM
@egreg tick awarded;-)
 
9:04 PM
@tohecz: About indenting \shortintertext, I think it makes sense, as there was an old typographical layout with equation numbers slightly indented on the left. Such a layout could be restored, withe same inden for intertext. After all, displayed equations are a semantic group. Don't you agree with this point of view?
 
@Bernard Welcome to the chat!
Well, what is the purpose of indentation, in the first place?
For me, the purpose of indentation is to visually separate a new paragraph. Now, if you start to indent in the very same way something mid-paragraph, the original purpose of indentation is spoiled.
 
@ Tohecz: A better differentiation from the main flow of text, at least to the eye.
 
@Bernard you mean indentation of what? I meant the standard one at the beginning of a paragraph
 
@Tohecz: I mean indentation of equation numbers and intertext. Just like one can use some indentation for theorem proofs, if one wants to ease skipping proofs for a first reading. Actually I see my wording is not so good (it comes from the \theoremindent length). In TeXnical terms, it amounts to more or less increasing \leftskip.
 
@Bernard well, is intertext really a part of the equation? To me, it's not.
As I replied to Mico, the text has to be anchored somewhere: Either it's just a piece of text, which happens to be coded by a command called \intertext in LaTeX, and then it should stay on the most left ("anchored" to the paragraph). Or it is a part of the equation, and then it should be bonded to the equation contents, and not just float somewhere in the empty space.
 
9:29 PM
@Tohecz: it's probably the difference between our points of view: if I have a piece of text that I consider part of the main flow of text, I close the math display, write the text, then open a new display. It's all the ambiguity of intertexts: they live in an in-between, and their status strongly depends on the semantical context.
 
9:52 PM
@Bernard well, the true only purpose of \intertext is to preserve the & positions inside align and similar arguments. For me, \intertext is closing the display, and opening a new one just after that. I focus on the result, and don't care if the code is this or that.
 
does anyone how many controls instances I can put in one command?
 
@henry what?
ad my last longer comment: s/arguments/environments/
 

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