@DavidCarlisle heheh. nice save at the last minute :)

@DavidCarlisle: Proof... :-|

@Werner oh on SO, shame:-) (meanwhile I'm wondering if I should go to bed or finish this uktug thing:-)

@DavidCarlisle I couldn't keep the secret long enough. :)

@DavidCarlisle: You've still not assembled a talk?!

@Werner loads of time yet:-)

@DavidCarlisle I fully agree.

@tohecz Tom! :)

Assembling for UK-TUG meeting

@JosephWright Roger! :)

@PauloCereda knives are out....

@PauloCereda skype?

Paulo: Heiko is one of the demi-gods of the TeX world :-)

@JosephWright Demi? ;-)

@egreg I mentioned you as a demigod as well. :)

Next talk: Simon Dales (UK-TUG Chair) on documenting code

who mentioned vim :(

@DavidCarlisle Not me. :)

@David: how late I was? 10 minutes?

@PauloCereda your slides will be posted, then people will see...

@PauloCereda we have biscuits here, it was OK

@DavidCarlisle Terribly sorry, I'm ashamed.

Damn timezones. :(

@PauloCereda honestly it was no bother

@DavidCarlisle Thanks. <3

@PauloCereda I checked how many stars we have for expl3 on GitHub: 71

@JosephWright A good indicator, I think. :)

Joseph is next...

@DavidCarlisle Yay!

@JosephWright: fun fact: I believe the majority of my userbase is German. There might be some sort of efficiency attached to the tool itsef that makes it so appealing. :)

Why do we have discussion tag? Can we delete the tag from the two questions?

tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/discussion

@Johannes_B Removed; but I can't remove the tag itself

The same goes for blur tex.stackexchange.com/questions/212315/… and scantokens tex.stackexchange.com/questions/213659/…

Is this on-topic here? And if yes, what tags to give it?

hi

@subhamsoni Hi!

I small doubt

how to wrap up code in verbatim environment

while using the fancyvrb package.

@subhamsoni I am sorry, you have been told more than once to write up whole sentences in this chatroom. Why aren't you doing that? There are three snippets completely unclear (at least for me). You know how important minimal working examples are, right?

Is there a way to only plot datasets x to y (e.g. 10-20) when using \addplot table [...]?

I couldn't find anything in the documentation right now, but I vaguely remember that there was an option available.

I now found skip rows between index, but that obviously only works when x=first row.

@Johannes_B :)

@PauloCereda Well, what the duck? :-)

I needed \llangle (double \langle) so I use \usepackage{mnsymbol}, and everything is okay except that now my math font is different. Where can I see definition of \llangle from mnsymbol package , because I just want to input that definition. I hope you understand me :-)

oxford:~ paulo$ texdef -t latex llangle -p MnSymbol

\llangle:
macro:->\delimiter "4374374

@Cortizol There you go. ^^

@ComFreek Interesting, but I'm afraid I can't help.

@PauloCereda umhhh, is that Linux? Sorry, I don't know how to use that

@Cortizol Do you really need \llangle from MnSymbol?

@egreg Well, no. I suppose I can use \langle \langle (which is bad probably), but I just wanted to see other way

@Cortizol There's Importing a Single Symbol From a Different Font

@egreg If you can't, who can? ;) I'll fallback to Lua or simply create multiple files myself by hand.

@ComFreek pgfplots is not my field. ;-)

@egreg All right, I will see that. Thank you

@Cortizol This should be doable with pgfplots, but i don't know the keywords from the top of my head.

@Cortizol Here you are

\documentclass{article}

\DeclareFontFamily{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{}
\DeclareFontShape{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{m}{n}{
    <-6>  MnSymbolE5
   <6-7>  MnSymbolE6
   <7-8>  MnSymbolE7
   <8-9>  MnSymbolE8
   <9-10> MnSymbolE9
  <10-12> MnSymbolE10
  <12->   MnSymbolE12}{}
\DeclareFontShape{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{b}{n}{
    <-6>  MnSymbolE-Bold5
   <6-7>  MnSymbolE-Bold6
   <7-8>  MnSymbolE-Bold7
   <8-9>  MnSymbolE-Bold8
   <9-10> MnSymbolE-Bold9
  <10-12> MnSymbolE-Bold10
  <12->   MnSymbolE-Bold12}{}


\DeclareSymbolFont{mnlargesymbols}{OMX}{MnSymbolE}{m}{n}

@Cortizol Note that the \langle and \rangle symbols from MnSymbol are just terrible.

@ComFreek chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/18826545#18826545

@Johannes_B ?

Did you ping Cortizol by accident?

@ComFreek Yes. I also had a relevant Link that was never sent and which i just deleted :-(

Oh, what a pity!

@ComFreek tex.stackexchange.com/questions/178629/…

@ComFreek There was something simpler, as far as i can remember.

Thanks! I'll have a look. @Johannes_B

@Johannes_B Should I use a heavier insult?

@egreg Would be ok for me. APA needs to give out confusing requirements to get new customers that break trying to follow the requirements. :-)

@PauloCereda someone stole your duck again in a recent answer

@DavidCarlisle I'm expecting tons of upvotes for it!

@egreg I'm sure you're not expecting them from me!

@egreg you seem to be trying to steal my deserved harvard bounty?

@DavidCarlisle You've become expert also in bst?

@egreg I can search for "author" and put "u" change.case$ after it, yes

@DavidCarlisle That requires mastering the language!

@egreg I have actually written a couple of bst files a long time ago, I gave up when makebst came out as it seemed easier:-)

@egreg I wasn't at home for some time. Thank you for this

@DavidCarlisle Easier than BST? How can it be? ;-)

... No. Not always. Sometimes, yes; intentionally. Otherwise, no.

Also, Greetings everybody :D

@DavidCarlisle Just got home. Nice day.

@JosephWright Idem

@Brent.Longborough :-)

@PauloCereda Hi! Sorry, by then I was about to leave to meet my sis and my bro-in-law :)

The difficult thing: not to eat the 600g of expensive chocolate you've bought as Xmas gifts :D

@egreg bst fine is backwards you comfortablle-are

@Brent.Longborough yes shame more people aren't there:-)

@DavidCarlisle Manage BST can Yoda only.

@JosephWright has helped only 3.2M people. I think he doesn't deserve to moderate this site. /sarcasm

@tohecz Where does this rubbish come from?

@JosephWright here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/244261/… and at SEDE: data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/251652/…

@tohecz I know that, I mean where do you see the numbers for individuals?

@JosephWright for MSE yes. For other sites, I've created an approximate SEDE query to see the scale of this ridiculous stat

@egreg Hi

@egreg just for curiousity: is there any particular reason why you "don't like" \if\relax\detokenize{#1}\relax anymore?

@Ruben It's not that I don't like it any more; but if I can avoid clumsy code, I do.

@egreg I'd say it is anything else but plumsy. Maybe not so vividly as its xparse counterpart...

@Ruben In that case one needs very clumsy code, as Heiko's answer shows.

@Ruben However, it might get far simpler than Heiko's.

@egreg okok... ^^ Btw: Your answer to my last question looks fantastic. But I need to look over it a few times.

@Ruben Recursive macros.